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A-Net Please make it easier to the Gift of battle.

Last Crysis.1934Last Crysis.1934 Member ✭✭✭

Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

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  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Imo GoB is very easy to get. Sounds like you need to find someone or a group to run with instead of asking for a GoB nerf :p

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  • SunTzu.4513SunTzu.4513 Member ✭✭✭

    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle.

    Generally said i feel the same way. WvW is just not my gamemode. I done a farm marathon the first time i need the GoB and it was a torment for myself. These days i just play about a half hour in wvw. Just get on a map looking for a commi who is running a public zerg and join it. Meanwhile i have even fun and sometimes i play a whole evening. Don't force yourself to do it in a short period of time if you are not into this type of gamemode. To make an easier/shorter way to get GoF is imo way to unfair to pure WvW players. They have to do plenty of pve content to get their shinys.

  • FASTCAR.7831FASTCAR.7831 Member ✭✭✭

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    I have a dozen stacks of these, super easy to get

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  • intox.6347intox.6347 Member ✭✭✭

    @FASTCAR.7831 said:

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    I have a dozen stacks of these, super easy to get

    But that dude means... that for pver is annoying to make one :D I have lot of them too... but for wvwers doesnt matter... u can click one reward track and another... till you have all :D

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  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    There are quick and easy dailies that can be done which are pretty much PvE. You can easily complete a reward track very casually doing this.

  • BlaqueFyre.5678BlaqueFyre.5678 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Gift of Battle is already extremely easy to get, it takes anywhere between 4-8 hrs of casual gameplay to acquire, it doesn’t need to be any easier to achieve, you don’t even have to fight players to achieve it in those 4-8hr. How do you think people feel about GoE? It takes over 20+ hrs of PvE but you don’t see those people that hate PvE complaining.

    Also fun fact you can get GoB without ever having to leave Spawn just saying, but don’t expect that to be done in a timely manner, you want it in a reasonable amount of time? Do the gamemode that provides it, want to get it in a manner not intended? It’s going to be a long haul.

  • @Dawdler.8521 said:
    Anet pls having to spend 2000 gold and 30+ hours doing PvE for gift of exploration is ruining the game.

    Please reduce material costs to 20g and give us world exploration for entering LA. But only for people who WvW cause we find PvE boring.

    And add a level req to the T2 wvw armor so that not everybody can just get it. :tongue:

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  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @FASTCAR.7831 said:

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    I have a dozen stacks of these, super easy to get

    So... You have 3000 GoB?

  • @Voltekka.2375 said:

    @FASTCAR.7831 said:

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    I have a dozen stacks of these, super easy to get

    So... You have 3000 GoB?

    Nah, he got lazy and stopped at 10 stacks. :tongue:

    #nornmodeisbestmode

  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @BunjiKugashira.9754 said:
    Just stack all the boosters you can and join a zerg. I got my gift of battle this way in less than 3h.

    That would be a bit impossible. Even with max points per tick, and bonuses from Diamond chest track, it should be around 6h. Still, not long.

  • Zero.3871Zero.3871 Member ✭✭✭

    ist also not fun for wvw Player to Play pve for any of the 100 Million other Gifts. so handle it.

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    Troll posts, troll posts everywhere!

  • Cragga the Eighty Third.6015Cragga the Eighty Third.6015 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2018

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    How are you playing? Have you tried running around solo, hitting the tiny camps? If you have a durable support-type build (I use Druid) you can usually take out a tiny camp on your own, better yet, you may run into another roamer or two and be able to take them out together. (Watch out for the invulnerable NPC, they are on a timer, but it will run out if you keep them from killing you for a few minutes.) You can also keep an eye on any of the NPC areas bordering your territory, waiting for a chance to take them over or renew your alliance. Rewards come slower like this than when you are in the big zerg, but it's a heck of a lot more fun. And yeah, you will still die sometimes. If you have any speed boost or stealth-type skills, it may help you to outrun and escape enemies you don't want to fight. (Though the occasional one-on-one slugfest is kind of fun, too, if you don't care a lot whether you win it.)

  • BlaqueFyre.5678BlaqueFyre.5678 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Voltekka.2375 said:

    @BunjiKugashira.9754 said:
    Just stack all the boosters you can and join a zerg. I got my gift of battle this way in less than 3h.

    That would be a bit impossible. Even with max points per tick, and bonuses from Diamond chest track, it should be around 6h. Still, not long.

    Quick math shows that it takes 4.2hrs with full boosters before participation bonus it capped at 4.5hrs.

  • bLind.6278bLind.6278 Member ✭✭✭

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    It's already too easy and requires literally nothing but time.

    There's a 95% chance I'll be warned for this post, regardless of what it says.

  • Last Crysis.1934Last Crysis.1934 Member ✭✭✭

    @Cragga the Eighty Third.6015 said:

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    How are you playing? Have you tried running around solo, hitting the tiny camps? If you have a durable support-type build (I use Druid) you can usually take out a tiny camp on your own, better yet, you may run into another roamer or two and be able to take them out together. (Watch out for the invulnerable NPC, they are on a timer, but it will run out if you keep them from killing you for a few minutes.) You can also keep an eye on any of the NPC areas bordering your territory, waiting for a chance to take them over or renew your alliance. Rewards come slower like this than when you are in the big zerg, but it's a heck of a lot more fun. And yeah, you will still die sometimes. If you have any speed boost or stealth-type skills, it may help you to outrun and escape enemies you don't want to fight. (Though the occasional one-on-one slugfest is kind of fun, too, if you don't care a lot whether you win it.)

    I pretty much run from camp to camp killing any npc I can or I repair a wall. I hate all forms of pvp it stresses me out so if I see another player I try to tp away, if I can't I just /sit and let them kill me. Having to go up against another player that t know I will loss against just stresses me out and that ends up making me nauseous. I did not start playing this game to be stressed. So yes be force into WvW where I have to pvp is ruining the game.

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Sit in SMC and repair walls, it's the participation meta these days, and players are ok with it.
    If walls are fully repaired then sit on a treb and hit a tower, you can use a penny to hold down your number 1, ez pz.
    Oh and get a good book out to read or a movie or two to watch in the meantime.

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  • @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    The entire reason for the Gift of Battle requirement is to encourage people to play WvW. Given that, six hours in one session or twelve hours over multiple sessions is about the least effort ANet could require. Their most recent comment on the topic is that they aren't considering a change, not even a little one.

    Since GoB is only required for legendaries and legendaries are purely cosmetic (with a small convenience factor for those who build swap often), nothing forces you to get one. If WvW isn't fun, then reconsider how badly you want a legendary. If the answer remains: "very badly", then instead of asking ANet to lower the requirement, ask people for help reaching your goal.

    Put another way: even if ANet agrees with you today that the requirement is too onerous, it's going to be months before they change the acquisition method, probably longer. It's far, far easier and quicker if you figure out how you can adapt to the requirement than for ANet to adapt their game to suit your preferences.

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  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    hmmm... It's called "Gift of Battle" because you're supposed to go in and BATTLE. I don't particularly like PvE but I spent hundreds of hours in there doing what needs to be done to get the masteries and xp and gifts etc. needed to get what I wanted. It's all part of the game. Seriously what would be the point of making these things super easy just because someone didn't like doing them? It's like saying to your professor that you want that degree but he should give you easier work to get it. ;)

    Just another WvW lifer who'll never say die... while dying again and again!

  • Last Crysis.1934Last Crysis.1934 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2018

    @Fallesafe.5932 said:

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    I jumped into WvW just to get my gift of battle, and ended up quitting PvE as a result. Stop pouting and play the game mode. You may actually like (love?) It.

    I am not pouting have got my rank up to 100 so yes I have tried to like I really have tried to get over my dislike for WvW and it still stresses me out to no end. I don't find it fun when I am trying to relax after work and enjoy my time.

  • Blackarps.1974Blackarps.1974 Member ✭✭✭

    If we can get legendary weapons without touching PvE then I think gift of battle without WvW'ing would be reasonable.

  • Last Crysis.1934Last Crysis.1934 Member ✭✭✭

    @Blackarps.1974 said:
    If we can get legendary weapons without touching PvE then I think gift of battle without WvW'ing would be reasonable.

    I would be all for that. It would help the ppl who don't like pve and the ones that don't like pvping.

  • Deihnyx.6318Deihnyx.6318 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2018

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    You DO realize that for wvw players, having to grind for other components (gift of exploration) is a chore as well, right?
    Short from completely ruining the point of a legendary by removing all sorts of accomplishment, you can't remove all the "chores" for everyone.

    Gift of Battle is one of the easiest / less time consuming components to get.

  • Last Crysis.1934Last Crysis.1934 Member ✭✭✭

    @Deihnyx.6318 said:

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    You DO realize that for wvw players, having to grind for other components (gift of exploration) is a chore as well, right?
    Short from completely ruining the point of a legendary by removing all sorts of accomplishment, you can't remove all the "chores" for everyone.

    Gift of Battle is one of the easiest / less time consuming components to get.

    Not even the PvE players like the grind for the gift of exploration but there is no random players there trying to kill you. Just mods you can easily run from if they are to hard.

  • Blackarps.1974Blackarps.1974 Member ✭✭✭

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:

    @Blackarps.1974 said:
    If we can get legendary weapons without touching PvE then I think gift of battle without WvW'ing would be reasonable.

    I would be all for that. It would help the ppl who don't like pve and the ones that don't like pvping.

    You and me both, bud. Since the start though, WvW players have had the short stick though. Most of us had to PvE there for a long time just to get funds to keep playing WvW. It was annoying.

  • Arioch.6507Arioch.6507 Member ✭✭

    It would'nt be very "Legendary" to leave out ANY aspect of Legendary requirement.

  • Dayra.7405Dayra.7405 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2018

    It's trivial and need far less than 6h to get the gift of battle.
    Just do 2-3 easy WvW-dailies per day and you have it after 2-3 weeks of 5-10min effort per day.

    It's just bad planning to start it when you have everything else ready for use ;)

  • Deihnyx.6318Deihnyx.6318 Member ✭✭✭

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:

    @Deihnyx.6318 said:

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    You DO realize that for wvw players, having to grind for other components (gift of exploration) is a chore as well, right?
    Short from completely ruining the point of a legendary by removing all sorts of accomplishment, you can't remove all the "chores" for everyone.

    Gift of Battle is one of the easiest / less time consuming components to get.

    Not even the PvE players like the grind for the gift of exploration but there is no random players there trying to kill you. Just mods you can easily run from if they are to hard.

    But how does that make it more relevant to nerf wvw stuff?
    It's very self-centered to think that what a pve player likes or doesn't like should have the high ground.

    If pvp players have to do pve stuff for the legendary, surely pve players would have to do some pvp stuff as well.

  • Dami.5046Dami.5046 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I got a gift of battle 'just in case' shrugs You are more likely to find me moaning about the drop of the infamous maguuma lily.

  • Solori.6025Solori.6025 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    NO.
    They already made it so you no longer have to go into WvW for map completion. Anything more and they may was well revamp the entire game.
    I don't want to have to go and do map complete in PvE only. They should just give away the gift of exploration because I dont like PvE

    I don't want to farm for gold either. Lets just make all materials free. Cause I find farming boring.

    Lets just dumb down the game so everyone can just have everything with no effort.

    Cause that's basically what you're asking for.
    Reward with no effort

    Tingle my stingleberry

  • MithranArkanere.8957MithranArkanere.8957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    How long it takes to get the Gift of Battle is fine. The problem is actually in PvP. While one has to do WvW to get a legendary weapon, they can skip PvP altogether.
    To make it fair and reasonable, the Gift of the Mists should require participating in all of the mists, or none of it.

    The Gift of the Mists requires:

    • Gift of Battle : Reward track
    • Gift of War : 250 Battle Memories,
    • Gift of Glory : 250 Shards of Glory
    • Cube of stabilized dark energy : Dark energy + 75 stabilizing matrices.

    So you can skip pvp and PvE altogether for it.

    To make the Gift of the Mists make sense and be fair across all game modes, it should have been:

    • Gift of War: 250 battle memories + Gift of Battle.
    • Gift of Glory: 250 shards of glory + Perfect Mists Core
    • Gift of Fractals: 250 +2 infusions, + Fractal Journal
    • Cube of stabilized dark energy : Dark energy + 75 stabilizing matrices.

    This way there's both things you can buy, and items you have to obtain yourself. And it requires actually playing in all of the mists.

    To not force anyone to play any game mode it would have to be something like this instead:

    • Gift of War: 250 battle memories
    • Gift of Glory: 250 shards of glory
    • Gift of Fractals: 250 +2 infusions,
    • Cube of stabilized dark energy : Dark energy + 75 stabilizing matrices.

    But then where would the "legendary" be?

  • BMW.2951BMW.2951 Member ✭✭✭

    If a carebear complains about it... surely it will make pvp better right?

    Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol

    Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company.

  • Kovu.7560Kovu.7560 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Someone want to trade some of this stuff for a gift of battle?
    I just realized I need three.

    ~ Kovu

    Ranger main before it was viable.
    Fort Aspenwood.

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Hey question for OP....

    Do you go into a raid or fractal with no clue on what to do? Do you just use whatever gear and build? Do you think this is a good way to complete this content?
    Now I will assume people who do raids, and high level fractals actually do at least some research and get an idea of what to do, so they go in prepared.

    Why is it so hard for you to do the same thing for WvW? There are a billion guides online, is it really so hard for you to switch some things around to make it easier for yourself?

    Now I hate map completion, but it is required for making a legendary. I would never ask for it to be removed or to be changed because making a legendary was always supposed to be a cross gamemode process. It is also a voluntary process, legendaries are not a requirement for anything, if you choose to do it then do what is required and stop complaining.

    BG

  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭

    @Kovu.7560 said:
    Someone want to trade some of this stuff for a gift of battle?
    I just realized I need three.

    ~ Kovu

    It's too bad you can't give away the gift of battle. I got too many of them... pfft.

    Just another WvW lifer who'll never say die... while dying again and again!

  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2018

    Wvw stresses you out OP? Well, a simple solution is to just do the easy wvw dailies. Camp cap, veteran, land claimer, tower cap. You should have the GoB within 10-12 days. With as little time invested in wvw as possible.

  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @BMW.2951 said:
    If a carebear complains about it... surely it will make pvp better right?

    Guess what? You don't have to get that legendary you want... lol

    Just pay $150 and buy it from the trading post. Support these awesome devs man! Great game and great company.

    Gen 2 legendaries can be bought from tp now? Oh wait

  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Solori.6025 said:

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    NO.
    They already made it so you no longer have to go into WvW for map completion. Anything more and they may was well revamp the entire game.
    I don't want to have to go and do map complete in PvE only. They should just give away the gift of exploration because I dont like PvE

    I don't want to farm for gold either. Lets just make all materials free. Cause I find farming boring.

    Lets just dumb down the game so everyone can just have everything with no effort.

    Cause that's basically what you're asking for.
    Reward with no effort

    Actually, they removed map comp from wvw because pvers used to flood the maps and not participate in wvw stuff... That aside, GoB is pretty easy to get, I agree

  • Yeah anet please help us!

    We are WvW players and we dont do PvE cos, you know, it's terrible.

    I want lots of loot and gold and skins that people get in Pve but I dont like being in PvE for hours, days, weeks or even months to get stuff I cannot get in WvW!

  • Kaiser.9873Kaiser.9873 Member ✭✭✭

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:

    @Cragga the Eighty Third.6015 said:

    @Last Crysis.1934 said:
    Having to spend 6+ hour in WvW is ruining the game for me, just to get the Gift of Battle. I don't find it fun getting killed ever minute when i am just trying to find away to get my participation up and repairing walls for that whole time is boring. So PLEASE A-net do something for the ppl who don't like WvW or any type of pvp.

    How are you playing? Have you tried running around solo, hitting the tiny camps? If you have a durable support-type build (I use Druid) you can usually take out a tiny camp on your own, better yet, you may run into another roamer or two and be able to take them out together. (Watch out for the invulnerable NPC, they are on a timer, but it will run out if you keep them from killing you for a few minutes.) You can also keep an eye on any of the NPC areas bordering your territory, waiting for a chance to take them over or renew your alliance. Rewards come slower like this than when you are in the big zerg, but it's a heck of a lot more fun. And yeah, you will still die sometimes. If you have any speed boost or stealth-type skills, it may help you to outrun and escape enemies you don't want to fight. (Though the occasional one-on-one slugfest is kind of fun, too, if you don't care a lot whether you win it.)

    I pretty much run from camp to camp killing any npc I can or I repair a wall. I hate all forms of pvp it stresses me out so if I see another player I try to tp away, if I can't I just /sit and let them kill me. Having to go up against another player that t know I will loss against just stresses me out and that ends up making me nauseous. I did not start playing this game to be stressed. So yes be force into WvW where I have to pvp is ruining the game.

    No offense guy, but if "seeing another player" in a PvP setting causes you stress/physical illness then maybe MMOs aren't for you. I hate PvE. I have come to the conclusion after mostly crafting Bifrost that I do not have it in me to finish all the grindy PvE garbage to complete it. Legendaries are not in my future, perhaps not in yours either. HAVING to play PvE to get shiny shiny weapons is horribly unfair to the WvW playerbase. See I can do it too.

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