Arheundel.6451 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 As the title state...Distortion into Mirror into Stealth..rinse and repeat....if you are quick enough you find an opening once every 2-3 rotations, an opening that regardless doesn't give enough time to deal considerable dmg or nothing that can be easily recovered before the mesmer resume its defensive rotations with nothing that you can do because he's invulnerable with distortion and if you try to range him ...you find mirror..then he stealth to repeat his offensive rotation and doesn't matter if you just try to kite/dodge.....the mesmer will attack again few secs later...ha and to start gl kiting the mesmer between Jaunt and sword ambush....even if you carefully evade their ambush skill and jaunt, the mesmer will catch up thx to illusionary leap.The damage?...fine keep itThe stealth?...fine keep itThe clone spam?.....fine I can deal with itDefensive rotation?....CDs too short, you virtually have no openingIt's excruciatingly frustrating because you don't lose to the player...he's simply being carried by the damn build....A class design with an incredible amount of personal bias... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLind.6278 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 One of the lead devs plays mesmer, don't expect any meaningful changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicTurtle.8571 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Distortion cooldown: 50 secondsStealth cooldown: 30 seconds at least, on all of them.Mirror cooldown: Not sure if you mean dodging or the trait evasive mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 If you were complaining about thief, then thieves would be jumping in this thread to yell at you that "Stealth isn't invulnearbility, its so easy to play around, quit whining about it" yet strangely, I doubt they will do that in this thread. Anyway, there definitely could be more openings to attack the mesmer, especially mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 @"OriOri.8724" said:If you were complaining about thief, then thieves would be jumping in this thread to yell at you that "Stealth isn't invulnearbility, its so easy to play around, quit whining about it" yet strangely, I doubt they will do that in this thread. Anyway, there definitely could be more openings to attack the mesmer, especially mirage.Mesmer is a mess of overbuffed traitlines/utilities as the result of imposed balance based on personal bias. I can clearly see all the synergies HE created with mirage and chronomancer, HE knew what HE was doing like : evasive mirror in duellist line, then blurred inscriptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishi.6027 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Don't waste offensive cooldowns on distortion. Wait out a few dodges and cool-downs, challenge heir anticipation learn to read a little. Be sure to count dodges.There are openings Mesmer runs out of on demand evades, but they have decent duration per cooldown.AoE pressures their resources and stealth.Useing condi will have lasting effects through evades, also only squish builds use stealth you can use that as an indicator to how they will react.Turn off "Auto Targeting" and enable "Skill Retargeting", you would be surprised at the number of players who've been complaining about mes crying for nerfs while thinking you don't need these basic settings to be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario.8964 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 @"OriOri.8724" said:If you were complaining about thief, then thieves would be jumping in this thread to yell at you that "Stealth isn't invulnearbility, its so easy to play around, quit whining about it" yet strangely, I doubt they will do that in this thread. Anyway, there definitely could be more openings to attack the mesmer, especially mirage.To be fair, thieves lack the defensive rotation of a mirage and the detarget of stealth is much more punishing to the enemy when you're a mesmer than when you're a thief. That being said, stealth is obviously a minimal part of the issue so I don't think that's what people should be spending their energy on right now. Fixing the other parts of the issue would do much more than nerfing stealth... again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBoopBop.5403 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 @"OriOri.8724" said:If you were complaining about thief, then thieves would be jumping in this thread to yell at you that "Stealth isn't invulnearbility, its so easy to play around, quit whining about it" yet strangely, I doubt they will do that in this thread. Anyway, there definitely could be more openings to attack the mesmer, especially mirage.Thieves don't have:Mirage's break stun on dodgeMirage's evade while mid cast any skillMirage mirrors to pick up off the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooka.9712 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Mesmers are in the most broken state ive seen a class in the last 15 years of mmos/mobas. just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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