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What is going on with these two servers?

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  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    what you mean?

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • That's....vague.

    [KiS] is a hostage situation. Pls send help.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    as far as i remember when we were in t1, they fought us good and regular.

    bg is one notch above all others in coverage and the game as it is.

    yb had the coverage and guts to stay in t1 and they fought us and each other and sometimes 3 way.

    so i am really confused with the post. hehe

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • My hope is some players from SoS will share their views, and whoever is matched up with BG & YB next week can follow up.

    It could be nothing, but here's my view having played on SoS for the last 9 months: BG & YB are working together to deny any other servers enough points to remain in T1.
    On EBG, you see BG objectives untouched while SoS objectives are flipped faster than they can be reclaimed.
    On other BL's, you see the BG zerg coming to defend YB objectives.
    The 2v1-ing is seen time and time again.

    SoS spent a good 6+ months in T1, but 2 weeks ago something changed. I'd love to know what so as a server we could adapt and resume our fight to beat BG for once. But if it's a rigged game, that's uh, not cool, ya know ?

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sorayuki.8906 said:
    My hope is some players from SoS will share their views, and whoever is matched up with BG & YB next week can follow up.

    It could be nothing, but here's my view having played on SoS for the last 9 months: BG & YB are working together to deny any other servers enough points to remain in T1.
    On EBG, you see BG objectives untouched while SoS objectives are flipped faster than they can be reclaimed.
    On other BL's, you see the BG zerg coming to defend YB objectives.
    The 2v1-ing is seen time and time again.

    SoS spent a good 6+ months in T1, but 2 weeks ago something changed. I'd love to know what so as a server we could adapt and resume our fight to beat BG for once. But if it's a rigged game, that's uh, not cool, ya know ?

    not from sos but ns here.

    i didnt see them.help each other. both sre just opportinistic. i even saw bg hit yb more than.us because were were not as many as yb.

    both are looking for fights. so unlike what i expected where both would siege up. reality is good.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • This is a matchup thread and will end up shut down. Before it does. There is no collusion. The game is not rigged. That requires too much work honestly. It's not a 2v1, it's more often than not map politics. Or OJs on the map which is like a pretty flame for moths to gather to. As for what SoS did? I can only give you the BG perspective. They were bosses of the PPT game. They were excellent at draining PPT from red map. The scales tipped when YB came because YB defends their borderland, regardless of which one it is with their very last breath. This cost SoS in the PPT side of it.

    [KiS] is a hostage situation. Pls send help.

  • Caliburn.1845Caliburn.1845 Member ✭✭✭

    As a notarized card carrying member of the YB leadership. We do not want to be in T1, SoS is welcome to stay in T1.

    There is no collusion between BG and YB.

    In fact, when you see swords on YB or BG objectives steer clear of them, and go take other YB or BG stuff, preferably YB.

    Caliburn.1845, Monsters Inc(BOO) guildleader.
    DH>DB>BG>MAG>YB>SBI>YB>AR

  • Caliburn.1845Caliburn.1845 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2018

    Double post hmm

    Caliburn.1845, Monsters Inc(BOO) guildleader.
    DH>DB>BG>MAG>YB>SBI>YB>AR

  • Kaiser.9873Kaiser.9873 Member ✭✭✭

    Caliburn speaks for many/most on YB. Go take our kitten while we fight BG. If you choose to, hmm ,bootyjam, then expect one or both to turn on you.

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sorayuki.8906 said:
    My hope is some players from SoS will share their views, and whoever is matched up with BG & YB next week can follow up.

    It could be nothing, but here's my view having played on SoS for the last 9 months: BG & YB are working together to deny any other servers enough points to remain in T1.
    On EBG, you see BG objectives untouched while SoS objectives are flipped faster than they can be reclaimed.
    On other BL's, you see the BG zerg coming to defend YB objectives.
    The 2v1-ing is seen time and time again.

    SoS spent a good 6+ months in T1, but 2 weeks ago something changed. I'd love to know what so as a server we could adapt and resume our fight to beat BG for once. But if it's a rigged game, that's uh, not cool, ya know ?

    lmao....
    Welcome to red side and to the view every other 3rd server has had of BG and SoS for the past 9 months.
    Maybe this will finally lightbulb SoS on how to out ppt BG for a change, maybe...

    "Is there pvp stuff for this?" "Absolutely, eh we actually have a new armor set coming soon."
    "From the back of the room!, the one pvp fan! we got him! WoAH!"
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • Tiny Doom.4380Tiny Doom.4380 Member ✭✭✭

    This is a match up thread so it's going to get locked. Personally I think it was always a mistake to ban match up threads. WvW was intended to be a team competition and if the official forums deny players the opportunity to discuss the outcome of matches in a league then it undermines the whole principle of the competition. Match up threads need to be heavily moderated but they should never have been outright banned.

    That said, the YB/BG position, as I see it from YB, is that some on YB feel they'd rather not be in T1 while others feel it's fine to stay as long as we can hold our place. There is no collusion whatsoever between BG and YB and there isn't likely to be, ever. BG have the coverage to do pretty much what they want but over the past few months they've fallen into the habit of getting a big lead at the weekends then slacking off because the third team has always given up. YB doesn't generally give up and at the moment we are very strong in NA and have some good coverage in OCX and EU, meaning we can compete to an extent. That means BG has had to do a bit more work to keep its comfortable lead, which probably means BG hitting the third team (currently SoS) harder than they're used to.

    If there was going to be any organized double-teaming, which there won't be because, contrary to opinions often expressed, it's incredibly hard to organize and even harder to maintain, it would be more likely to involve YB and the 3rd team vs Blackgate, which is the only way BG will ever be pegged down from the top spot. SoS and YB hate each other far too much for that to happen. It could, conceivably happen with another server - TC would probably be the most amenable to trying it - but it almost certainly never will. BG will sit on their coverage and the top spot until the revamp breaks them up forever.

  • Lady Sapphirah.6234Lady Sapphirah.6234 Member ✭✭
    edited April 29, 2018

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    lmao....
    Welcome to red side and to the view every other 3rd server has had of BG and SoS for the past 9 months.
    Maybe this will finally lightbulb SoS on how to out ppt BG for a change, maybe...

    The week SoS was d/t'd out of T1... SoS was physically blocked from entering Lords room several times one time in particular I was dead in Air keep Lord room with one other other person (when the rest of the SoS zerg had been blocked), when YB took it and BG stood there with them... I only saw one red circle happen LOL... then BG just walked out.

    This was the only week I have noticed this happen to SoS in all the time in T1...

    Surely some of u guys remember that one? dontcha?

    Is that how it always is for red?

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    We love fighting ac's you know.

    Somewhere chasing bags....

  • Match-up Thread.

    Guild wars 3 when?

  • Aside from the one troll commander on yb (not dk) that plays during ocx time, it is all good.

  • DemonSeed.3528DemonSeed.3528 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lady Sapphirah.6234 said:
    The week SoS was d/t'd out of T1... SoS was physically blocked from entering Lords room several times one time in particular I was dead in Air keep Lord room with one other other person (when the rest of the SoS zerg had been blocked), when YB took it and BG stood there with them... I only saw one red circle happen LOL... then BG just walked out.

    This was the only week I have noticed this happen to SoS in all the time in T1...

    Surely some of u guys remember that one? dontcha?

    Is that how it always is for red?

    My NA acc is on IOJ and I remember that well, I think it was the week after that guild left bg and yb came into T1. BG would [seemingly] come to aid YB at bay etc and it looked like they were there to stop us and then immediately leave. My other guildies however were on YB and said there was no helping bg at all [so it could have been bg assisting yb, and not yb assisting bg]. In any case, I am paired with YB now and we are equal opportunity destroyers, going for both servers at the same time, we go deep enough into bg stuff. Bg is also attacking us constantly, and have people having picnics outside our keep hehe. If there was anything indeed happening, it was probably only that week when YB came into T1 and YB wasn't [afaik] part of it [not talking about the guild that moved from bg to yb however].

  • SoS confronting BG

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lady Sapphirah.6234 said:
    Is that how it always is for red?

    Yes lmao, you guys still don't get it, cancel the light bulb moment I guess.
    BG is finally bored of you.

    "Is there pvp stuff for this?" "Absolutely, eh we actually have a new armor set coming soon."
    "From the back of the room!, the one pvp fan! we got him! WoAH!"
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Dear SoS....

    Somewhere chasing bags....

  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2018

    @sorayuki.8906 said:
    My hope is some players from SoS will share their views, and whoever is matched up with BG & YB next week can follow up.

    It could be nothing, but here's my view having played on SoS for the last 9 months: BG & YB are working together to deny any other servers enough points to remain in T1.
    On EBG, you see BG objectives untouched while SoS objectives are flipped faster than they can be reclaimed.
    On other BL's, you see the BG zerg coming to defend YB objectives.
    The 2v1-ing is seen time and time again.

    SoS spent a good 6+ months in T1, but 2 weeks ago something changed. I'd love to know what so as a server we could adapt and resume our fight to beat BG for once. But if it's a rigged game, that's uh, not cool, ya know ?

    lol, I'm on SoS as well. ... and I have friends on other servers... every server says the same thing about the other two servers they're fighting. Hey look they're ganging up on us. People say that about us and BG, us and YB, us and.... and so on. It's the same on every server I have friends on, which is quite a few. Everyone thinks the other two are ganging up on them. It's kind of what you call take all the stuff you can, when you can, gank who you can when you can... and so on and so on...

    Just another WvW lifer who'll never say die... while dying again and again!

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    Somewhere chasing bags....

  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    Just another WvW lifer who'll never say die... while dying again and again!

  • Actium.8765Actium.8765 Member ✭✭

    honestly i think any server in t1 should just double team BG since they have the coverage and people to fight both at the same time.

    Char: Acium
    Guild: Mist Raiders [MR]
    Server: Darkhaven

  • DeadlySynz.3471DeadlySynz.3471 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sorayuki.8906 said:
    My hope is some players from SoS will share their views, and whoever is matched up with BG & YB next week can follow up.

    It could be nothing, but here's my view having played on SoS for the last 9 months: BG & YB are working together to deny any other servers enough points to remain in T1.
    On EBG, you see BG objectives untouched while SoS objectives are flipped faster than they can be reclaimed.
    On other BL's, you see the BG zerg coming to defend YB objectives.
    The 2v1-ing is seen time and time again.

    SoS spent a good 6+ months in T1, but 2 weeks ago something changed. I'd love to know what so as a server we could adapt and resume our fight to beat BG for once. But if it's a rigged game, that's uh, not cool, ya know ?

    I could definitely believe this; now that SoS is out of T1, they aren't being propped up anymore. They lose nearly every fight and seem to lose their EBG keep regularly. Same happened on BG, if SoS wasn't around to prop them up, BG would routinely lose nearly all their fights. But a 3 way match is built for a 2 vs 1; however, the coverage issues will end soon enough. I think it'll be fairly hard to maintain any type of "unspoken" 2vs1 as there is no more server identity.

  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    ... and case in point ... a very short while ago a handful of us (about 15) were heading to swc on DBL. A scout sees us going passed the SWT. I say to the group.. prepare for a BG blob of at least 25 coming to the camp.... by the time we got there so was the blob. Some even laughed... oh it must be so much fun taking down half your numbers.. but as they say, it is what it is! That's the BG way... now if they had sent even numbers they would have died!

    Just another WvW lifer who'll never say die... while dying again and again!

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2018

    @Actium.8765 said:
    honestly i think any server in t1 should just double team BG since they have the coverage and people to fight both at the same time.

    You would think, would make things interesting in tier one for a change rather than the usual ktraining.
    On the other hand that would mean playing hardcore ppting to win, which is now pointless when original servers will be dead in the near future.

    "Is there pvp stuff for this?" "Absolutely, eh we actually have a new armor set coming soon."
    "From the back of the room!, the one pvp fan! we got him! WoAH!"
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    ... and case in point ... a very short while ago a handful of us (about 15) were heading to swc on DBL. A scout sees us going passed the SWT. I say to the group.. prepare for a BG blob of at least 25 coming to the camp.... by the time we got there so was the blob. Some even laughed... oh it must be so much fun taking down half your numbers.. but as they say, it is what it is! That's the BG way... now if they had sent even numbers they would have died!

    15 is enough to take on 25 no-skill BG. Kek.

    Guild wars 3 when?

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    ... and case in point ... a very short while ago a handful of us (about 15) were heading to swc on DBL. A scout sees us going passed the SWT. I say to the group.. prepare for a BG blob of at least 25 coming to the camp.... by the time we got there so was the blob. Some even laughed... oh it must be so much fun taking down half your numbers.. but as they say, it is what it is! That's the BG way... now if they had sent even numbers they would have died!

    I dont understand, what were they supposed to do just let you pass by?

    Somewhere chasing bags....

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    ... and case in point ... a very short while ago a handful of us (about 15) were heading to swc on DBL. A scout sees us going passed the SWT. I say to the group.. prepare for a BG blob of at least 25 coming to the camp.... by the time we got there so was the blob. Some even laughed... oh it must be so much fun taking down half your numbers.. but as they say, it is what it is! That's the BG way... now if they had sent even numbers they would have died!

    I dont understand, what were they supposed to do just let you pass by?

    I think maybe people want a group to count how many are there and only have that number respond.

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  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    ... and case in point ... a very short while ago a handful of us (about 15) were heading to swc on DBL. A scout sees us going passed the SWT. I say to the group.. prepare for a BG blob of at least 25 coming to the camp.... by the time we got there so was the blob. Some even laughed... oh it must be so much fun taking down half your numbers.. but as they say, it is what it is! That's the BG way... now if they had sent even numbers they would have died!

    I dont understand, what were they supposed to do just let you pass by?

    I think maybe people want a group to count how many are there and only have that number respond.

    If only that were possible everytime I ran into a map blob :/

    Somewhere chasing bags....

  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2018

    @Eremes Guile.1480 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    ... and case in point ... a very short while ago a handful of us (about 15) were heading to swc on DBL. A scout sees us going passed the SWT. I say to the group.. prepare for a BG blob of at least 25 coming to the camp.... by the time we got there so was the blob. Some even laughed... oh it must be so much fun taking down half your numbers.. but as they say, it is what it is! That's the BG way... now if they had sent even numbers they would have died!

    15 is enough to take on 25 no-skill BG. Kek.

    haha... well yes if the 15 are skilled and organized and not a random pug group like ours... ;)... although when I say at least 25 I mean more like 30 or more... when they descended on us we disappeared amongst them... that's how many there were... we looked like a few ants on an ant hill.

    Just another WvW lifer who'll never say die... while dying again and again!

  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    ... and case in point ... a very short while ago a handful of us (about 15) were heading to swc on DBL. A scout sees us going passed the SWT. I say to the group.. prepare for a BG blob of at least 25 coming to the camp.... by the time we got there so was the blob. Some even laughed... oh it must be so much fun taking down half your numbers.. but as they say, it is what it is! That's the BG way... now if they had sent even numbers they would have died!

    I dont understand, what were they supposed to do just let you pass by?

    You misunderstand the purpose of my post. I'm not complaining. As I said, it is what it is. Most people may or may not send some roamers or a small group to defend a camp, esp one that's just T1... BG sends a zerg/blob pretty much every time. Not complaining seriously... it's just the way of things and that's all I was trying to point out.

    Just another WvW lifer who'll never say die... while dying again and again!

  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    ... and case in point ... a very short while ago a handful of us (about 15) were heading to swc on DBL. A scout sees us going passed the SWT. I say to the group.. prepare for a BG blob of at least 25 coming to the camp.... by the time we got there so was the blob. Some even laughed... oh it must be so much fun taking down half your numbers.. but as they say, it is what it is! That's the BG way... now if they had sent even numbers they would have died!

    I dont understand, what were they supposed to do just let you pass by?

    I think maybe people want a group to count how many are there and only have that number respond.

    lol oh come on... I'm not saying that at all. The facts are the facts... BG sends BIG numbers to defend even a paper structure or camp.. Most other servers... well any other server that I've come up against doesn't do that. I'm not complaining.. no sense in complaining.. it is what it is.. and THIS is the BG way.. that's it :P

    Just another WvW lifer who'll never say die... while dying again and again!

  • Crazy.6029Crazy.6029 Member ✭✭✭

    Maybe there is a secret conspiracy comprised of conspirators that are secretly plotting and passing secrets to one another in order to conspire to pass secrets regarding a conspiracy or maybe BG is just bored of fighting SoS and would like to fight YB now :)

  • Vova.2640Vova.2640 Member ✭✭✭

    BG and YB seemed to made an agreement to only focus the third server.
    YB never touch any BG stuff and BG seems to avoid going after YB stuff as well, at least to some degree.
    Both server seems to zerg only the third server's home BLs.
    This is at least what I have noticed in the last 2 weeks.

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Must be a lot of new people on SoS or something..

    "Is there pvp stuff for this?" "Absolutely, eh we actually have a new armor set coming soon."
    "From the back of the room!, the one pvp fan! we got him! WoAH!"
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Must be a lot of new people on SoS or something..

    New linking... BP linked with SoS this run...

    Just another WvW lifer who'll never say die... while dying again and again!

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Must be a lot of new people on SoS or something..

    New linking... BP linked with SoS this run...

    I mean to come in here and complain about what's happening to them being red in t1 when it's been happening for 9 months with their involvement.
    Tables turned 0 sympathy.

    "Is there pvp stuff for this?" "Absolutely, eh we actually have a new armor set coming soon."
    "From the back of the room!, the one pvp fan! we got him! WoAH!"
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic ||

  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Must be a lot of new people on SoS or something..

    New linking... BP linked with SoS this run...

    I mean to come in here and complain about what's happening to them being red in t1 when it's been happening for 9 months with their involvement.
    Tables turned 0 sympathy.

    hmmm... ok must be talking about the original op then.. no complaints here though. Just a good ol ( and definitely not young), guy having fun! wp mastery and all.

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  • @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    Sooo.... sometimes it is organised......

    Im not scared of BG or their size... dont care about being mutilated and run over by a 60 strong blob, I enjoy it... thats wvw, been going on since day one... dont give a kitten about AJs. AJ is part of the fun. 3 way fight is fun, like 2 blobs are fighting and no.3 blob comes along what are they sposed to do, stand there and watch? thats ridiculous and no fun....

    Dont give a kitten about an occasional spur of the moment d/t like once or twice in a week but what happened that one week was extreme and clearly not an accident :P

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29, 2018

    @Lady Sapphirah.6234 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    Sooo.... sometimes it is organised......

    Im not scared of BG or their size... dont care about being mutilated and run over by a 60 strong blob, I enjoy it... thats wvw, been going on since day one... dont give a kitten about AJs. AJ is part of the fun. 3 way fight is fun, like 2 blobs are fighting and no.3 blob comes along what are they sposed to do, stand there and watch? thats ridiculous and no fun....

    Dont give a kitten about an occasional spur of the moment d/t like once or twice in a week but what happened that one week was extreme and clearly not an accident :P

    No idea, I dont get involved in server politics. And I was not there for the particular incident you were describing so cant specifically comment on that. Usually we just follow the ojs and fight whoever is there. The payback part doesn't have to be organized, for example SoS blocks us from defending SMC, so we might go after them when given an opportunity when they are attacking or defending.

    Somewhere chasing bags....

  • Mil.3562Mil.3562 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vova.2640 said:
    BG and YB seemed to made an agreement to only focus the third server.
    YB never touch any BG stuff and BG seems to avoid going after YB stuff as well, at least to some degree.
    Both server seems to zerg only the third server's home BLs.
    This is at least what I have noticed in the last 2 weeks.

    Focusing on the third server is true only if that third server is SoS.

    BG will want to 'unofficially 'coorodinate with any server against SoS. They are seeing SoS as a thread in T1. Admit it.

    Not too long ago, BG teamed up with Mag to cap SoS garri in EBG. I was there that evening and I remember very well. Mag hit us on the North wall while BG hit our Southern gates. We managed to hold for like 30 mins. When SoS managed to push Mag to retreat, BG will hit us from behind, but when Mag pushed us, BG stood and watch. So, eventually we were being pushed to our spawn fort. I could see not far behind the fighting group, there were two other groups standing very close to one another, BG (green) and Mag (red). They just stood there, not fighting each other. The team-up was very obvious on the map too. EBG was evenly split between the two servers, half green and half red, blue is left with just their spawn area.

    And lately a spy has been pulling our EBG EWP all day. Yes, SoS is so good that they have to stoop to that low tactics : D

    If given a choice, I would rather be in T2. T1 is boring because BG is boring. Really.

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2018

    @Mil.3562 said:
    The team-up was very obvious on the map too. EBG was evenly split between the two servers, half green and half red, blue is left with just their spawn area.

    You mean like red bl which was always half green and half blue from BG and SoS?

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  • @Mil.3562 said:
    And lately a spy has been pulling our EBG EWP all day. Yes, SoS is so good that they have to stoop to that low tactics : D

    Buddy this happens on all servers, including yours. We see this daily.

  • X T D.6458X T D.6458 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Habanero.4035 said:

    @Mil.3562 said:
    And lately a spy has been pulling our EBG EWP all day. Yes, SoS is so good that they have to stoop to that low tactics : D

    Buddy this happens on all servers, including yours. We see this daily.

    Happens to use all the time when YB is in the matchup...gee what a coincidence.

    Somewhere chasing bags....

  • @Tiny Doom.4380 said:
    This is a match up thread so it's going to get locked. Personally I think it was always a mistake to ban match up threads. WvW was intended to be a team competition and if the official forums deny players the opportunity to discuss the outcome of matches in a league then it undermines the whole principle of the competition. Match up threads need to be heavily moderated but they should never have been outright banned.

    That said, the YB/BG position, as I see it from YB, is that some on YB feel they'd rather not be in T1 while others feel it's fine to stay as long as we can hold our place. There is no collusion whatsoever between BG and YB and there isn't likely to be, ever. BG have the coverage to do pretty much what they want but over the past few months they've fallen into the habit of getting a big lead at the weekends then slacking off because the third team has always given up. YB doesn't generally give up and at the moment we are very strong in NA and have some good coverage in OCX and EU, meaning we can compete to an extent. That means BG has had to do a bit more work to keep its comfortable lead, which probably means BG hitting the third team (currently SoS) harder than they're used to.

    If there was going to be any organized double-teaming, which there won't be because, contrary to opinions often expressed, it's incredibly hard to organize and even harder to maintain, it would be more likely to involve YB and the 3rd team vs Blackgate, which is the only way BG will ever be pegged down from the top spot. SoS and YB hate each other far too much for that to happen. It could, conceivably happen with another server - TC would probably be the most amenable to trying it - but it almost certainly never will. BG will sit on their coverage and the top spot until the revamp breaks them up forever.

    That explains why I see so few thread discussing other servers. I feel like my question has been answered, so mods can close this.
    Thanks to everyone for the replies! ^_^

  • SkyShroud.2865SkyShroud.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I am not sure if it is double team or not since I am not there to witness it.

    However, there certainly is such possibility but the other possibility is higher which is just the circumstance call for it.

    If a zerg keep losing fights, there is little reasons why the zerg will keep trying to bash the same enemy over and over again. This is especially the case when one has more numbers than the other though many or majority do not have that capability to eye estimate that differences. Regardless, one will start to avoid that enemy thus going for the weaker opponent. This can be applied to the opponent as well. Eventually, the strongest one will keep targeting the 2nd strongest while the weakest will hit the 2nd strongest, creating a illusion of double team.

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  • @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    i mean, it's wvw, it's not like a walk in the park, you know..

    Guild wars 3 when?

  • @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @Eremes Guile.1480 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @Balthazzarr.1349 said:

    @X T D.6458 said:
    Sometimes its map politics,
    Sometimes its payback,
    Sometimes its for funsies.

    lol... ah the feeling of being steamrolled by 60 BG killers. I have no complaints though. It is what it is. I know it's there and frankly it's a lot of fun to poke (the hornets nest) aka fire keep or even set on dbl, a few times with a bunch of people and watch the big blob of BG flood over the wall as we port away. oooh yaaa.. we is trollin ya too! lol

    ... and case in point ... a very short while ago a handful of us (about 15) were heading to swc on DBL. A scout sees us going passed the SWT. I say to the group.. prepare for a BG blob of at least 25 coming to the camp.... by the time we got there so was the blob. Some even laughed... oh it must be so much fun taking down half your numbers.. but as they say, it is what it is! That's the BG way... now if they had sent even numbers they would have died!

    15 is enough to take on 25 no-skill BG. Kek.

    haha... well yes if the 15 are skilled and organized and not a random pug group like ours... ;)... although when I say at least 25 I mean more like 30 or more... when they descended on us we disappeared amongst them... that's how many there were... we looked like a few ants on an ant hill.

    make up your mind, 25 or 30??? anyways, its good that you guys are still having fun, likewise, every squad will respon to a scout call on team-chat... but still tho, you can still drop to t2 or something where you can just k-train everything like last week (Y)

    Guild wars 3 when?

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