We need an power dps alternative to Bowl of Sweet and Spicy Butternut Squash Soup

At the time of me posting this, Bowl of Sweet and Spicy Butternut Squash Soup (BoSSBSS) is sitting at 1g29s.

For those of you who don't know, BoSSBSS is the only optimal power dps food for raids, fractals and dungeons. Instead of half an hour buff like most food, it gives a full hour buff of +100 power and +70 ferocity, making it best in slot. The problem? It is way more expensive than everything other classes have to run. In particular, I'm talking about the alternative to Veggie Pizza that condi dps classes got in Red-Lentil Saobosa, currently sitting at 8 silver (16 silver for a full hour buff compared to BoSSBSS). Also, you waste a lot of buff time with 1h food.

Furthermore, the efforts of anet to lower the price of BoSSBSS by releasing a cheap, bad alternative to it that requires hard to get map currency to craft on soulbound recipes failed. Who could have thought that Avocado Smoothies would fail like that?

There needs to be done something about this current situation, asap. This has been going on for way too long.

I've just been using Steak with Winterberry Sauce. It's 45 minutes of +100 Power +70 precision, and it is relatively cheap to make. I just trade in berries with karma for them.

The problem is that 100 power + 70 precision hardly is an alternative when many classes are already crit-capped in berserker gear without accuracy sigil. At that point, even the smoothie is way more effective. Besides, it's true that condi builds now have three equal alternatives (two of which are dirt cheap), while power has only BSSBSS that is ridiculously expensive.

There are already "alternatives". What the OP is asking for is an identical substitute. I'm sympathetic, but ... game runs fine without it, there's no content that requires it.

• BoSaSBSS itself, 100 power, 70 ferocity.
• If saving money is the objective, you can get double garden plots to make primers, which ultimately drives the costs down a lot. It will save a lot in the long term.
• Steak with Winterberry Sauce. 100 power, 70 precision. Great, especially if not crit-chance capped.
• Avocado Smoothie. 80 power, 60 ferocity. L70ish stats, so maybe a 20% reduction in DPS but... only costs a silver plus some karma & diflourite.

@CptAurellian.9537 said:The problem is that 100 power + 70 precision hardly is an alternative when many classes are already crit-capped in berserker gear without accuracy sigil. At that point, even the smoothie is way more effective. Besides, it's true that condi builds now have three equal alternatives (two of which are dirt cheap), while power has only BSSBSS that is ridiculously expensive.

Perhaps the smart money is trading a couple pieces of that zerker gear for items with less precision, more other damage stats, and using food that fills the gap?

@SlippyCheeze.5483 said:

@CptAurellian.9537 said:The problem is that 100 power + 70 precision hardly is an alternative when many classes are already crit-capped in berserker gear without accuracy sigil. At that point, even the smoothie is way more effective. Besides, it's true that condi builds now have three equal alternatives (two of which are dirt cheap), while power has only BSSBSS that is ridiculously expensive.

Just that this doesn't work. The only trade-off that makes sense for a power class is precision against power or ferocity. Unfortunately, there is no gear that has more power or ferocity than berserker gear. Other stats, like condi damage, just don't cut it. If we had two-stat gear with just power and ferocity, we would have a choice.

@CptAurellian.9537 said:

@SlippyCheeze.5483 said:

@CptAurellian.9537 said:The problem is that 100 power + 70 precision hardly is an alternative when many classes are already crit-capped in berserker gear without accuracy sigil. At that point, even the smoothie is way more effective. Besides, it's true that condi builds now have three equal alternatives (two of which are dirt cheap), while power has only BSSBSS that is ridiculously expensive.

Valkyrie? I mean yeah it's still a downside but Valk should work I guess.

@SlippyCheeze.5483 said:

@CptAurellian.9537 said:The problem is that 100 power + 70 precision hardly is an alternative when many classes are already crit-capped in berserker gear without accuracy sigil. At that point, even the smoothie is way more effective. Besides, it's true that condi builds now have three equal alternatives (two of which are dirt cheap), while power has only BSSBSS that is ridiculously expensive.

No such stat exists.

@Imperadordf.2687 said:

@CptAurellian.9537 said:

@SlippyCheeze.5483 said:

@CptAurellian.9537 said:The problem is that 100 power + 70 precision hardly is an alternative when many classes are already crit-capped in berserker gear without accuracy sigil. At that point, even the smoothie is way more effective. Besides, it's true that condi builds now have three equal alternatives (two of which are dirt cheap), while power has only BSSBSS that is ridiculously expensive.

Valkyrie just adds to your defense, power and ferocity are the same as berserker.

Avocado Smoothie could have worked ... if they actually made it a lv80 food instead of lv75. Then there is the fact that it has to be bought from a heart vendor. Although that one might not be a problem since it means you are automatically able to purchase 5 a day for 2.5hours of buff time.

@CptAurellian.9537 said:The problem is that 100 power + 70 precision hardly is an alternative when many classes are already crit-capped in berserker gear without accuracy sigil. At that point, even the smoothie is way more effective. Besides, it's true that condi builds now have three equal alternatives (two of which are dirt cheap), while power has only BSSBSS that is ridiculously expensive.

Only because the chefs of Tyria are incredibly clumsy and manage to destroy 2/3 of their ingredients every time they cook. :P

@Khisanth.2948 said:

@CptAurellian.9537 said:The problem is that 100 power + 70 precision hardly is an alternative when many classes are already crit-capped in berserker gear without accuracy sigil. At that point, even the smoothie is way more effective. Besides, it's true that condi builds now have three equal alternatives (two of which are dirt cheap), while power has only BSSBSS that is ridiculously expensive.

Berserker gear is much cheaper and more accessible than Viper gear...power food is more expensive than condi food...if they release a cheaper alternative such as they did with condi (red-lentil sabosa), cool. If they don’t, well...that’s just the way it is.

If you don’t want to pay for the more expensive food, play like a casual and use the 80 pow, 60 fero pleb food. People will only notice if they are super tryhards or your DPS is bad.

@Exalted Quality.8534 said:Berserker gear is much cheaper and more accessible than Viper gear...power food is more expensive than condi food...if they release a cheaper alternative such as they did with condi (red-lentil sabosa), cool. If they don’t, well...that’s just the way it is.

If you don’t want to pay for the more expensive food, play like a casual and use the 80 pow, 60 fero pleb food. People will only notice if they are super tryhards or your DPS is bad.

Berserker gear and Viper's is roughly the same price for ascended. Viper's is actually slightly cheaper. For anyone who cares about optimal things why would they use anything besides ascended?

You use Bowl of Sweet and Spicy Butternut Squash Soup only when you have enough precision/critrate and only in raids because of the price. This can mean you have a lot of precision infusion in you gear(14) or assassin rings . The normal alternative to this is Plate of Truffle Steak , Winterberry Steak you use if you want also +30% MF.

In Sandswept Island you can also get for condi damage a new recipe Plate of Beef Rendag and for healers Bowl of Poultry Satay which production cost is cheaper then before

Is 70 concentration really an equivalent to +10% outgoing healing? For +100 healing power there is already something much cheaper.

Concentration is for your regeneration and other boon supports(boon duration) I don't know the numbers and I'm not a healer but it is something I'm sure you need.

it's 15 concentration per 1% boon duration iirc, so it does nothing directly for healing but does make ur regens last longer. I also seem to recall that toxic focussing crystal and rare veggie pizza were well over a gold for quite some time. Perhaps we will have a similar change to power food, but for now i don't care; it's swings and roundabouts.

Hmm swapping a single accessory from magi to harrier would cover up for the 70(actually 74) concentration. In the process 36 Healing Power is lost but +10% outgoing healing is definitely better than 36 Healing Power.

70 concentration is 4.66~% boon duration so regeneration could heal for that much more but that is also less than 10% and doesn't apply to other forms of healing

If we are mainly interested in concentration then Loaf of Candy Cactus Cornbread gives 100 for less than half the price although it also includes 70 toughness which might not be desirable.

In the case of a tempest it is also possible to maintain 100% uptime on regen just from rune of the monk and using arcane trait line

It might be useful for something but it looks inferior to rice balls for primary healer.

@Funky.4861 said:it's 15 concentration per 1% boon duration iirc, so it does nothing directly for healing but does make ur regens last longer. I also seem to recall that toxic focussing crystal and rare veggie pizza were well over a gold for quite some time. Perhaps we will have a similar change to power food, but for now i don't care; it's swings and roundabouts.

There is a fairly significant difference with Toxic Focusing Crystals and Rare Veggie Pizza. They were both nerfed(brought into line with other similar items) heavily. The crystal was giving 250 stat points worth of buffs while other things give only 100 while the pizza gave 400 versus 170 for other foods.

That is not the case with Bowl of Sweet and Spicy Butternut Squash Soup. It provides the same 170 points worth of buff as other food.

Highest price for rare veggie pizza was around 57s which is fairly far from 1g much less well over. While toxic focus crystal's high was around 1.5g.

I should have made myself clearer: they were well over a gold in combination, not individually.

Pretty sad that I don't get an official answer. The status quo makes me not want to learn and play power classes atm, so... Oh well. I won't, I guess.