Vinny.7260 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Woven_StrideDesire:I believe that Weaver deserves an attack-speed buff in some form. This form, in my opinion, should be through Swiftness. Swiftness should grant a 10% increased attack-speed boost instead of its previous effect of increasing the potency of the movement speed. It would thematically fit better than the old one since it would allow for an even more aggressive role of a specialization intended for an aggressive role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Sounds good weave has enofe super speed over all the ele class there no real reason to have faster swiftness. I would like to see it be +10% not just 7% though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny.7260 Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 @Jski.6180 said:Sounds good weave has enofe super speed over all the ele class there no real reason to have faster swiftness. I would like to see it be +10% not just 7% though.I was debating on saying 10% myself. Gonna have it to 10% tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Considering that you would use that trait only on melee builds (for free cleanses) and that those weapon skills take less than 1 second to cast, 10% attack speed is pointless. Improved protection was minor trait on tempest, but swiftness is major on weaver, another thing that makes no sense.What trait needs is condi cleanse on its own, whether it's through superspeed, swiftness (with icd) or something else. That way, if we decide to use water spec, we can run improved soothing mist and not waste over 800 stats on healing power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Godlike.6098 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 This in pvp...I love this idea...but I don't know...why not quickness source like ANY OTHER CLASS HAS AND WE DON'T? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 @"steki.1478" said:Considering that you would use that trait only on melee builds (for free cleanses) and that those weapon skills take less than 1 second to cast, 10% attack speed is pointless. Improved protection was minor trait on tempest, but swiftness is major on weaver, another thing that makes no sense.What trait needs is condi cleanse on its own, whether it's through superspeed, swiftness (with icd) or something else. That way, if we decide to use water spec, we can run improved soothing mist and not waste over 800 stats on healing power.As weaver not a def class and should have its own clears build into its melee kit not shoehorn in by another "you must take water for it to have a real use GM." If any thing the barrier on dodge roll should be clear on barrier application and woven strides should be the faster cast or faster attk tool. Right now you have a def GM another def GM and the only GM that is viable for the dmg elite spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny.7260 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 @"steki.1478" said:Considering that you would use that trait only on melee builds (for free cleanses) and that those weapon skills take less than 1 second to cast, 10% attack speed is pointless. Improved protection was minor trait on tempest, but swiftness is major on weaver, another thing that makes no sense.What trait needs is condi cleanse on its own, whether it's through superspeed, swiftness (with icd) or something else. That way, if we decide to use water spec, we can run improved soothing mist and not waste over 800 stats on healing power.I've wanted Quickness on Weaver... But the only skill I can think of that could use Quickness is https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unravel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 @kybraga.7103 said:@"steki.1478" said:Considering that you would use that trait only on melee builds (for free cleanses) and that those weapon skills take less than 1 second to cast, 10% attack speed is pointless. Improved protection was minor trait on tempest, but swiftness is major on weaver, another thing that makes no sense.What trait needs is condi cleanse on its own, whether it's through superspeed, swiftness (with icd) or something else. That way, if we decide to use water spec, we can run improved soothing mist and not waste over 800 stats on healing power.I've wanted Quickness on Weaver... But the only skill I can think of that could use Quickness is https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/UnravelConsidering that weaver traits are designed around speed and damage (and self sustain), quickness does make sense. Current unravel is disgrace for ele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 @kybraga.7103 said:@"steki.1478" said:Considering that you would use that trait only on melee builds (for free cleanses) and that those weapon skills take less than 1 second to cast, 10% attack speed is pointless. Improved protection was minor trait on tempest, but swiftness is major on weaver, another thing that makes no sense.What trait needs is condi cleanse on its own, whether it's through superspeed, swiftness (with icd) or something else. That way, if we decide to use water spec, we can run improved soothing mist and not waste over 800 stats on healing power.I've wanted Quickness on Weaver... But the only skill I can think of that could use Quickness is https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/UnravelI would love to see real quickness on weaver it would fit so well with all of its slow moving attks and long cast times but for sure you should not get both quickness as a pure dps +. This is what ele is missing over all a "kick" in effect where you can push dmg speed or debuff/boon strip some one at the last moment to throw ppl off. I think ele is one of the only class who lack this type of effect. Ele / weaver are too known you cant switch things up on ppl every thing you do is so telegraph the other player knows what your going to do before you may know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustaff.6581 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Originally Woven stride had other name (which i dont remember anymore) and that trait was suposed to remove conditions, but it was bugged and dont removed all the conditions it has in the tooltip.What i want of this trait is to comeback to its first version, not bugged obviously. So we dont have to depend on water to cleanse conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny.7260 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 @Conqueror.3682 said:Originally Woven stride had other name (which i dont remember anymore) and that trait was suposed to remove conditions, but it was bugged and dont removed all the conditions it has in the tooltip.What i want of this trait is to comeback to its first version, not bugged obviously. So we dont have to depend on water to cleanse conditions.Unravel Hexes; I miss it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldtart.4785 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 @steki.1478 said:speed4s attunement gcd would like a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 @Coldtart.4785 said:@steki.1478 said:speed4s attunement gcd would like a word.Traits, not spec mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsuko.2035 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Don't think a 10% attacked speed buff is really what weaver needs, although the speed buff on the trait isn't really that useful either.So perhaps, give us a 33% chance on cleansing a condition when applying swiftness to ourselves. This makes it not too OP? i think and at the same time, it would release us from water traitline when playing weaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldtart.4785 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 @steki.1478 said:Traits, not spec mechanic.All of which are wasted because you have to wait 4s before you get the skills you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 @Coldtart.4785 said:@steki.1478 said:Traits, not spec mechanic.All of which are wasted because you have to wait 4s before you get the skills you want.It has nothing to do with permanent swiftness application or superspeed procs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yiksing.9432 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Needs both swiftness buff and attack speed buff Or better access to superspeed without traiting into Air That 10% doesn't look like much but I was struggling to chase someone 600 units away without that trait when it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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