How to Fight Condi Thief - Vallun

I think you missed a very important technique to dealing with many classes but hopefully you will include it in your next guide. Moan about it on the forums by creating a new thread every few days.

Nice guide btw.

Condi thiefs spam their teleport skill like they were popping pills. Luckily I play a class that can bait them out and burst when necessary. If I can pull this off, its ez pz.

Not the only condi build but a solid video. How the conditions are applied is important for anyone fighting condi thief.

I’m a big advocate of teaching in this context so thanks for making this.

so strong and so smart

just dodge steal 4Head

more people need to see this so they STOP feeding when they got destroyed by 2 buttons

Good video overall.

I found making use of CnD for the interupt on tactical strike very strong after engi's pop out of elixir S.

Also, against necros and warriors, camping SB unless steal is on CD generally seems to be the best way to go. Against necros early sword2 into steal with basi venom then quickly LOS'ing forces them to waste signet 9 times out of 10, the fight is relatively easy after that; warrior and necro is generally just a waiting game in a 1v1.

P.S. you eat a lot of torment damage the way you were fighting that necro :P

Bring condi cleanse and CC. That will give you enough time to burn this ridiculous condi hopping frog build down.

I prefer the Angeels Method.

@Falan.1839 said:I prefer the Angeels Method.

Poor desk :cry:

This is a funny post.. A good SD condi Thief actually ports in..... hits ......& ports out even before being hit by anyone. Rince & repeat until target dead. EZpz

You forgot to add "monkey" at the end of your each sentence.

@Vieux P.1238 said:This is a funny post.. A good SD condi Thief actually ports in..... hits ......& ports out even before being hit by anyone. Rince & repeat until target dead. EZpz

nerf em with mesmer

Good video. Before we complain, perhaps we should post our own advice videos. It's at least a good place to start.

Nice video. Is there a video or guide on no port zone locations?

Going to address specific points.

"When you see the venom is up, you want to dodge the next couple of attacks."

I want to take a moment and point out that this is ABSURD for anybody who's seen a good S/D condi thief play.

Why? They have instant, unblockable attacks. Typically combined with basilisk venom, the result is I have to GUESS when they're going to start their bombing run. If I don't guess, I'm already too late. That is not counterplay. That is sheer luck. This would be great advice were it a holosmith winding up for an attack, but get real. This is a thief pulling off instantaneous attacks that requires a severe amount of luck to survive and counter.

"Just dodging their dodge skill will remove a lot of poison."

Wut.

No, really, wut.

Your advice is to dodge a dodge. You know how preposterous that is right? Again, it's instantaneous (so still luck based), but also stupid kinds of powercreep involved in that statement.

"Run to a no-port spot"

Your suggestion here is to actually exploit bad map design. Not saying this isn't valid in the moment, but it also highlights how poorly designed the class is if you have to exploit map design to avoid it.

"Use Specific Condi Cleanses"

This is great advice if you have them, but for some classes, specific condi cleanses are rare, or will hurt the player if used inappropriately (IE overcharged shot on engineer rifle).

"Change your gear for the enemy"

This is a given in any game where you know what your enemy's build is. Almost a duh.

But if you don't know, this doesn't help.

Just to be clear, I already try to avoid the venom skills whenever I can, but it is SHEER LUCK if I manage to dodge them. The instant casts and unblockable status make it impossible to avoid otherwise.

@"Sampson.2403" said:Nice video. Is there a video or guide on no port zone locations?

Frostball made a few of them : )