When I look at the main Elementalist builds and the main Revenant build, I see builds that require such skill, finesse, and comfort to play to skill cap. When players succeed in playing this, they are ALWAYS considered very skillful (with exception to menders weavers) in their ability to chain skill combos to maximize their puny damage, and time their evades optimally to stay alive. When I look at all other meta builds, complaints of spam is always prevalent. Holosmith? Spams aoe stability/knockdown/damage. Scourge? Spams aoe condi and boon rip. Firebrand? Spams defensives and heals. Mirage? Spams every single thing that a class can have. Spellbreaker? Spams full counter and rousing resilience and rampage. Maybe the solution isn't to overly buff classes that requires skill and finesse, but maybe the solution is to nerf the classes that do not. I do not want to play a class that is overly weak, sure, but I do not want to play a class that can execute one combo and one shot my opponent, or be immortal or a node, or overtake the node with my fields. Ele and Rev still have glaring weaknesses. Out of the meta classes I mentioned, the only one with a glaring weakness is Scourge. Maybe that's the problem.