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Allow us to instantly switch from one mount to another

At the moment this is sometimes possible by dismounting your current mount and then quickly mounting up with your other hotkey. However it's not very consistent, it may even just be a bug.

I would like to instantly and seamlessly switch mounts, and I can't think of a single reason why we shouldn't be able to.

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  • JDub.1530JDub.1530 Member ✭✭✭

    Not consistent? I assume you mean remounting goes on cooldown? How are you dismounting? If you're using the engage skill, that (usually) puts remounting on cooldown. But if you use the default mount key or the mount specific hotkeys to dismount, you should be able to instantly remount. Which could be why you can't just seamlessly switch mounts, because it would remove the functionality of dismounting without using the engage skill.

  • @JDub.1530 said:
    Not consistent? I assume you mean remounting goes on cooldown? How are you dismounting? If you're using the engage skill, that (usually) puts remounting on cooldown. But if you use the default mount key or the mount specific hotkeys to dismount, you should be able to instantly remount. Which could be why you can't just seamlessly switch mounts, because it would remove the functionality of dismounting without using the engage skill.

    ?

    How it works for me is I use, for example, my Jackal hotkey to mount up. I then use my Raptor hotkey, but instead of instantly changing to Raptor, I simply dismount.

    @Kong.3280 said:

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:
    I would like to instantly and seamlessly switch mounts, and I can't think of a single reason why we shouldn't be able to.

    I'd like to fly around unaided collecting gems from the clouds for spending via the gem store. Neither are likely to happen anytime soon.

    Nice snarky reply. How is your absurd example even comparable to the small QoL suggestion I made?

  • @Sarpan.9074 said:
    I have my mounts hotkeyed to the numpad. When I'm on one, I just have to double-tap the key of the mount I want to switch to. First tap dismounts me and second puts me on the new mount. Takes about one second. I can't imagine getting much more instant than that.

    Here's how to imagine it:

    First tap doesn't dismount you.

  • Sarpan.9074Sarpan.9074 Member ✭✭✭

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:

    @Sarpan.9074 said:
    I have my mounts hotkeyed to the numpad. When I'm on one, I just have to double-tap the key of the mount I want to switch to. First tap dismounts me and second puts me on the new mount. Takes about one second. I can't imagine getting much more instant than that.

    Here's how to imagine it:

    First tap doesn't dismount you.

    Just not a big deal for me. I guess it is for you and that's cool. Good luck with getting them to change it.

  • Kong.3280Kong.3280 Member ✭✭✭

    @Sarpan.9074 said:
    I have my mounts hotkeyed to the numpad.

    Same. To switch mounts I tap the key of the desired mount twice, and off I go.

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:
    Nice snarky reply. How is your absurd example even comparable to the small QoL suggestion I made?

    There's a transition from every change your character takes in game. Water to land, weapon to weapon. To by pass this it could lead to issues. As it is there are rare times I can't even go from mount to combat properly, I end up dismounted with no combat skills, requiring me to mount and dismount again. I'd say it's probably 0.05% chance, but it happens.

  • Thing is guys, you already CAN instantly and seamlessly transition mounts. I'm not sure what the parameters are to make it happen, but it CAN happen.

  • MarshallLaw.9260MarshallLaw.9260 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Using the hotkey method listed above, you spend less than half a second being mountless. I'm fairly sure this mount interaction is part of intended gameplay rather than a QoL issue to be resolved. Just double tap the hotkey.

  • GreyWolf.8670GreyWolf.8670 Member ✭✭✭

    With the quick remount ability from masteries it's quit possible to dismount and remount even in a crowd of mobs. I do it all the time.

  • SlippyCheeze.5483SlippyCheeze.5483 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:
    Thing is guys, you already CAN instantly and seamlessly transition mounts. I'm not sure what the parameters are to make it happen, but it CAN happen.

    Yeah, this. It may or may not be intended (hello, dodge-jumping), but it would be lovely to see it codified. I'll admit, the semi-random delay in changing mounts annoys me more than anything else. Sometimes I get this instant thing, sometimes I don't, and I can't for the life of me work out why. Worse, though, because of the time delays, sometimes I mistime the second "mount" click, and have to hit it again to actually get mounted. Can't just hit it three times, though, because if I do mount the second time, that'd drop me back on the ground....

  • Cifrer.6013Cifrer.6013 Member ✭✭

    It's not gonna happen because people would bunny jump into the griffon and they don't want that happening. Just my 2 cents.

  • wait is there a way to hotkey each mount?

    Would be nice to have more hybrid plant and regular clothing for fashion wars or more plant armor.

  • JDub.1530JDub.1530 Member ✭✭✭

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:
    Not consistent? I assume you mean remounting goes on cooldown? How are you dismounting? If you're using the engage skill, that (usually) puts remounting on cooldown. But if you use the default mount key or the mount specific hotkeys to dismount, you should be able to instantly remount. Which could be why you can't just seamlessly switch mounts, because it would remove the functionality of dismounting without using the engage skill.

    ?

    How it works for me is I use, for example, my Jackal hotkey to mount up. I then use my Raptor hotkey, but instead of instantly changing to Raptor, I simply dismount.

    Then how would you dismount? I'd rather not add ANOTHER hotkey to the game just for dismounting.

  • Steve The Cynic.3217Steve The Cynic.3217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @JDub.1530 said:

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:
    Not consistent? I assume you mean remounting goes on cooldown? How are you dismounting? If you're using the engage skill, that (usually) puts remounting on cooldown. But if you use the default mount key or the mount specific hotkeys to dismount, you should be able to instantly remount. Which could be why you can't just seamlessly switch mounts, because it would remove the functionality of dismounting without using the engage skill.

    ?

    How it works for me is I use, for example, my Jackal hotkey to mount up. I then use my Raptor hotkey, but instead of instantly changing to Raptor, I simply dismount.

    Then how would you dismount? I'd rather not add ANOTHER hotkey to the game just for dismounting.

    The obvious one is by switching to the mount you're on. (Use "Jackal" key to get on the jackal, then use "Raptor" key to switch to Raptor, then use "Raptor" key again to dismount, that sort of thing.)

  • SlippyCheeze.5483SlippyCheeze.5483 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cifrer.6013 said:
    It's not gonna happen because people would bunny jump into the griffon and they don't want that happening. Just my 2 cents.

    I don't believe that is possible with the current insta-swap stuff: it requires you to be able to dismount, and you can't dismount while in the middle of, uh, wishing you could turn to the griffin because that is a long fall, y'know?

    I don't think that should change, but I also don't think it is something that'd happen because of it.

  • JDub.1530JDub.1530 Member ✭✭✭

    @Steve The Cynic.3217 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:
    Not consistent? I assume you mean remounting goes on cooldown? How are you dismounting? If you're using the engage skill, that (usually) puts remounting on cooldown. But if you use the default mount key or the mount specific hotkeys to dismount, you should be able to instantly remount. Which could be why you can't just seamlessly switch mounts, because it would remove the functionality of dismounting without using the engage skill.

    ?

    How it works for me is I use, for example, my Jackal hotkey to mount up. I then use my Raptor hotkey, but instead of instantly changing to Raptor, I simply dismount.

    Then how would you dismount? I'd rather not add ANOTHER hotkey to the game just for dismounting.

    The obvious one is by switching to the mount you're on. (Use "Jackal" key to get on the jackal, then use "Raptor" key to switch to Raptor, then use "Raptor" key again to dismount, that sort of thing.)

    That may be A solution, but in my opinion, not a great one. I can foresee myself stumbling around swapping mounts trying to remember which of the 5 (or 6) hotkeys is the right one to dismount with.

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭

    Certainly would be easier avoiding some PoF mobs with insta-swap ... which is probably why it won't happen. It is by design.

    I am a very casual player.
    Very.
    Casual.

  • Cifrer.6013Cifrer.6013 Member ✭✭

    @SlippyCheeze.5483 said:

    @Cifrer.6013 said:
    It's not gonna happen because people would bunny jump into the griffon and they don't want that happening. Just my 2 cents.

    I don't believe that is possible with the current insta-swap stuff: it requires you to be able to dismount, and you can't dismount while in the middle of, uh, wishing you could turn to the griffin because that is a long fall, y'know?

    I don't think that should change, but I also don't think it is something that'd happen because of it.

    Right, you have to dismount to swap. If it were changed so that you could just swap while mounted it could cause issues with how the different mounts work. Even being able to dismount while airborne could prove problematic since you can mount the griffon while falling. Throw in the long glide of the skimmer, you could have some crazy combinations.

  • Ardid.7203Ardid.7203 Member ✭✭✭✭

    They can make the aggro go on your character even without dismounting first. They can also put a time on the same animation of changing mounts if they don't want to make it happen that fast. Moreover: since the double tapping is so easy to do, its mere existence doesn't make sense, really. IMO its not intended, but just an oversight. It should be a single tap.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dewsitine.3645 said:
    wait is there a way to hotkey each mount?

    Yes, it makes life so much easier when you do

  • Sarpan.9074Sarpan.9074 Member ✭✭✭

    @JDub.1530 said:

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:
    Not consistent? I assume you mean remounting goes on cooldown? How are you dismounting? If you're using the engage skill, that (usually) puts remounting on cooldown. But if you use the default mount key or the mount specific hotkeys to dismount, you should be able to instantly remount. Which could be why you can't just seamlessly switch mounts, because it would remove the functionality of dismounting without using the engage skill.

    ?

    How it works for me is I use, for example, my Jackal hotkey to mount up. I then use my Raptor hotkey, but instead of instantly changing to Raptor, I simply dismount.

    Then how would you dismount? I'd rather not add ANOTHER hotkey to the game just for dismounting.

    You don't have to. Hitting any of the mount hotkeys, including the one you're currently on, will dismount you.

  • StinVec.3621StinVec.3621 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 12, 2018

    I've mentioned in other discussions on this topic that this behavior already exists in the game when going from a player mount to a training mount, but appears to be restricted from being instant for player mount to player mount switching.

    If you go to the Djinn area where you acquire the Jackal mount, you can instantly switch between your current mount (e.g. Raptor) onto the 'training' Jackal without any kind of dismounting animation or transition. It is literally instantaneous; mount disappears and is instantly replaced with the training Jackal.

    As this semi-frequently requested behavior is already in the game, player mounts having a forced dismount limitation would seem to be an intentional design choice. As altering player mount swap behavior to also function this way would likely require little more than simply disabling the limitation on player mounts, the entire mount swap behavior would not need to be completely reworked to alter it - it would just take someone at ArenaNet to change their mind on this forced behavior and give the go-ahead to disable the required dismount to swap limitation.

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  • Why not also remove weapon swap cooldown because it is so annoying that you have to wait 10s?
    But seriously, I think it is perfect the way it is. Changing mounts without getting off of them makes totally no sense. If you don't have a spare second to change your mount then maybe you shouldn't be playing at all.

  • ProtoGunner.4953ProtoGunner.4953 Member ✭✭✭

    @JDub.1530 said:

    @Steve The Cynic.3217 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:
    Not consistent? I assume you mean remounting goes on cooldown? How are you dismounting? If you're using the engage skill, that (usually) puts remounting on cooldown. But if you use the default mount key or the mount specific hotkeys to dismount, you should be able to instantly remount. Which could be why you can't just seamlessly switch mounts, because it would remove the functionality of dismounting without using the engage skill.

    ?

    How it works for me is I use, for example, my Jackal hotkey to mount up. I then use my Raptor hotkey, but instead of instantly changing to Raptor, I simply dismount.

    Then how would you dismount? I'd rather not add ANOTHER hotkey to the game just for dismounting.

    The obvious one is by switching to the mount you're on. (Use "Jackal" key to get on the jackal, then use "Raptor" key to switch to Raptor, then use "Raptor" key again to dismount, that sort of thing.)

    That may be A solution, but in my opinion, not a great one. I can foresee myself stumbling around swapping mounts trying to remember which of the 5 (or 6) hotkeys is the right one to dismount with.

    It doesn't matter, you dismount with every bound mount hotkey. I. e. you are on a raptor and want to mount the jackal, you press any dismount key - let's say here the jackal , then press the jackal hotkey again to mount. Wow... that some people never found that out?

  • ProtoGunner.4953ProtoGunner.4953 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 13, 2018

    @Biff.5312 said:

    Here's how to imagine it:

    First tap doesn't dismount you.

    I think everyone gets what you mean - you want to switch without dismounting. It's not going to happen. You have to dismount as a deliberate step. Not only does this make logical sense, but the game designers want you to have to make the decision to risk aggro etc. before you get to mount the new choice. Also, it's not enough of a problem to warrant any attention.

    While being logical what is the gain in fun and game experience that you have 'to make decision'? In the end it's just annoying and you just run away til you de-aggro and then you mount the new mount. It's the same with the 'in combat' mechanic. To incentivise fighting, but 99% run away anyways.

    People are so much stuck in their typical gaming/MMO tropes that they think it has to be how it is. But imo Anet is a company that made exactly a lot of those obsolete and ancient mechanics unnecessary and they showed it does work differently. Here it's the same.

  • JDub.1530JDub.1530 Member ✭✭✭

    @ProtoGunner.4953 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:

    @Steve The Cynic.3217 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:
    Not consistent? I assume you mean remounting goes on cooldown? How are you dismounting? If you're using the engage skill, that (usually) puts remounting on cooldown. But if you use the default mount key or the mount specific hotkeys to dismount, you should be able to instantly remount. Which could be why you can't just seamlessly switch mounts, because it would remove the functionality of dismounting without using the engage skill.

    ?

    How it works for me is I use, for example, my Jackal hotkey to mount up. I then use my Raptor hotkey, but instead of instantly changing to Raptor, I simply dismount.

    Then how would you dismount? I'd rather not add ANOTHER hotkey to the game just for dismounting.

    The obvious one is by switching to the mount you're on. (Use "Jackal" key to get on the jackal, then use "Raptor" key to switch to Raptor, then use "Raptor" key again to dismount, that sort of thing.)

    That may be A solution, but in my opinion, not a great one. I can foresee myself stumbling around swapping mounts trying to remember which of the 5 (or 6) hotkeys is the right one to dismount with.

    It doesn't matter, you dismount with every bound mount hotkey. I. e. you are on a raptor and want to mount the jackal, you press any dismount key - let's say here the jackal , then press the jackal hotkey again to mount. Wow... that some people never found that out?

    I know this, but if the change went through that you could swap between mounts without dismounting, this functionality would be overwritten.

  • @JDub.1530 said:

    @ProtoGunner.4953 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:

    @Steve The Cynic.3217 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:
    Not consistent? I assume you mean remounting goes on cooldown? How are you dismounting? If you're using the engage skill, that (usually) puts remounting on cooldown. But if you use the default mount key or the mount specific hotkeys to dismount, you should be able to instantly remount. Which could be why you can't just seamlessly switch mounts, because it would remove the functionality of dismounting without using the engage skill.

    ?

    How it works for me is I use, for example, my Jackal hotkey to mount up. I then use my Raptor hotkey, but instead of instantly changing to Raptor, I simply dismount.

    Then how would you dismount? I'd rather not add ANOTHER hotkey to the game just for dismounting.

    The obvious one is by switching to the mount you're on. (Use "Jackal" key to get on the jackal, then use "Raptor" key to switch to Raptor, then use "Raptor" key again to dismount, that sort of thing.)

    That may be A solution, but in my opinion, not a great one. I can foresee myself stumbling around swapping mounts trying to remember which of the 5 (or 6) hotkeys is the right one to dismount with.

    It doesn't matter, you dismount with every bound mount hotkey. I. e. you are on a raptor and want to mount the jackal, you press any dismount key - let's say here the jackal , then press the jackal hotkey again to mount. Wow... that some people never found that out?

    I know this, but if the change went through that you could swap between mounts without dismounting, this functionality would be overwritten.

    So?

    You would just use your current mount hotkey to dismount, and any other mount hotkey would insta-switch. Also player incompetence isn't an excuse not to implement a feature...

  • Ardid.7203Ardid.7203 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @JDub.1530 said:

    @ProverbsofHell.2307 said:

    @JDub.1530 said:
    Not consistent? I assume you mean remounting goes on cooldown? How are you dismounting? If you're using the engage skill, that (usually) puts remounting on cooldown. But if you use the default mount key or the mount specific hotkeys to dismount, you should be able to instantly remount. Which could be why you can't just seamlessly switch mounts, because it would remove the functionality of dismounting without using the engage skill.

    ?

    How it works for me is I use, for example, my Jackal hotkey to mount up. I then use my Raptor hotkey, but instead of instantly changing to Raptor, I simply dismount.

    Then how would you dismount? I'd rather not add ANOTHER hotkey to the game just for dismounting.

    There is a basic key already for "current mount" called "mount". It lets you mount and dismount the mount you already have selected. There is no need to change this.

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