Can we have something done with shield gens already?

https://ibb.co/gUqG0JI know there's very little visible in the Screenshot, but under this bubble there is:7 rams2 golems70 enemy players4 shield gens.It's impossible to defend - ACs don't work because of shield generators. Rams, golems and shield generator are covered by the bubble all the time, so it's close to impossible to disable anything.Can we get shield generator minimum range extended please?

They should only be available inside structures.

@"Samug.6512" said:https://ibb.co/gUqG0JI know there's very little visible in the Screenshot, but under this bubble there is:7 rams2 golems70 enemy players4 shield gens.It's impossible to defend - ACs don't work because of shield generators. Rams, golems and shield generator are covered by the bubble all the time, so it's close to impossible to disable anything.Can we get shield generator minimum range extended please?

How they put down 7 rams and 4 shield gens under that bubble without hitting the local area siege cap? The only server I have known to break the cap is YB by coordinating simultaneous placement. And even then it is very rare.

I heavilly doubt in 7 rams part tbh....

How to properly defend:

1) Assess the situation.2) Do you require reinforcements? If so, call for reinforcements.3) Delay the enemy as best you can until the reinforcements mentioned in point 2 has arrived4) Fight the enemy5A) You won! Congratulations.5B) You lost! Sad.6) Repeat from point 1 the next time the situation occur.

Siege is not part of the process.

@Dawdler.8521 said:How to properly defend:

1) Assess the situation.2) Do you require reinforcements? If so, call for reinforcements.3) Delay the enemy as best you can until the reinforcements mentioned in point 2 has arrived4) Fight the enemy5A) You won! Congratulations.5B) You lost! Sad.6) Repeat from point 1 the next time the situation occur.

Siege is not part of the process.

It's not? How do you think they come in?

@"Samug.6512" said:https://ibb.co/gUqG0JI know there's very little visible in the Screenshot, but under this bubble there is:7 rams2 golems70 enemy players4 shield gens.It's impossible to defend - ACs don't work because of shield generators. Rams, golems and shield generator are covered by the bubble all the time, so it's close to impossible to disable anything.Can we get shield generator minimum range extended please?

One good thief with disabler on the shield Gen hard counters all that stuff.

@aspirine.6852 said:

@Dawdler.8521 said:How to properly defend:

1) Assess the situation.2) Do you require reinforcements? If so, call for reinforcements.3) Delay the enemy as best you can until the reinforcements mentioned in point 2 has arrived4) Fight the enemy5A) You won! Congratulations.5B) You lost! Sad.6) Repeat from point 1 the next time the situation occur.

Siege is not part of the process.

Does it matter?

@Dawdler.8521 said:

@aspirine.6852 said:

@Dawdler.8521 said:How to properly defend:

1) Assess the situation.2) Do you require reinforcements? If so, call for reinforcements.3) Delay the enemy as best you can until the reinforcements mentioned in point 2 has arrived4) Fight the enemy5A) You won! Congratulations.5B) You lost! Sad.6) Repeat from point 1 the next time the situation occur.

Siege is not part of the process.

Well for the delay part of your story it kinda does matter. Since without siege you can delay them well only seconds. . If at all.

I've found 2 people with dragon banner works very well. It will be a suicide run but 5 on dragon banner is nasty.

I am pretty sure ram is cap at 6 and not 7. Regardless, a lot of people in the "Siege Review" thread believe AC alone can stop others thus this screenshot must be fake.

Without shield gens it would be hard to take anything these days.

@hunkamania.7561 said:Without shield gens it would be hard to take anything these days.

Is it? 3 rams or catas burn through structures pretty faster.

@"SkyShroud.2865" said:I am pretty sure ram is cap at 6 and not 7. Regardless, a lot of people in the "Siege Review" thread believe AC alone can stop others thus this screenshot must be fake.

ac alone definitely can not stop even half of this, unless you mean several ac’s.

@aspirine.6852 said:

@Dawdler.8521 said:

@aspirine.6852 said:

@Dawdler.8521 said:How to properly defend:

1) Assess the situation.2) Do you require reinforcements? If so, call for reinforcements.3) Delay the enemy as best you can until the reinforcements mentioned in point 2 has arrived4) Fight the enemy5A) You won! Congratulations.5B) You lost! Sad.6) Repeat from point 1 the next time the situation occur.

Siege is not part of the process.

So what you are saying is... shield gens are needed?

This is a new one. Wondering when someone was gonna complain about something new lol. Shield gens ftw.

How dare ppl use shield gens for their intended purpose. A magical shield that can penetrate walls like it was magical. xD

@Brother.1504 said:

@"Samug.6512" said:

https://ibb.co/gUqG0J

I know there's very little visible in the Screenshot, but under this bubble there is:7 rams2 golems70 enemy players4 shield gens.It's impossible to defend - ACs don't work because of shield generators. Rams, golems and shield generator are covered by the bubble all the time, so it's close to impossible to disable anything.Can we get shield generator minimum range extended please?

Disablers won't work inside the shield gen's bubble, even one thrown from inside the bubble. Disablers are only an effective counter when the shield gens are placed far enough from the siege they're shielding.

@Dawdler.8521 said:How to properly defend:

1) Assess the situation.2) Do you require reinforcements? If so, call for reinforcements.3) Delay the enemy as best you can until the reinforcements mentioned in point 2 has arrived4) Fight the enemy5A) You won! Congratulations.5B) You lost! Sad.6) Repeat from point 1 the next time the situation occur.

Siege is not part of the process.

@Dawdler.8521 said:How to properly defend:

1) Assess the situation.2) Do you require reinforcements? If so, call for reinforcements.3) Delay the enemy as best you can until the reinforcements mentioned in point 2 has arrived4) Fight the enemy5A) You won! Congratulations.5B) You lost! Sad.6) Repeat from point 1 the next time the situation occur.

Siege is not part of the process.

Ha! You act like ppl defend. Rare occurance on my server. They give up T2 towers for paper.

see the problem is here ppl just want to nerf everything like the no downstate is too hard we want more easy mode wvw, serious if u really want to take out those shield generator u can just go do suicide mission and kill them urself.

@aspirine.6852 said:

@hunkamania.7561 said:Without shield gens it would be hard to take anything these days.

Disables, AC's and fortified gates and walls say otherwise.

@hunkamania.7561 said:

@aspirine.6852 said:

@hunkamania.7561 said:Without shield gens it would be hard to take anything these days.

Ac's? lol, what game do you play. Before an ac has got only a fifth of a ram or catas health they are inside at the next gate. With shield gens they wont even touch the rams or catas. If you even survive the onslaught the blob can do to any person on a AC unless it's placed real high, this is not the case at all keeps or towers :/Disables are fine, indeed. They do not always work though.

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Seriously, put some thought into it. You seem to be comprehensively outmanned and outgunned here. You should be at a disadvantage. On the flipside, a heavily defended T3 keep is VERY difficult to take, no matter how many shield gens you throw at the situation. Without the gens, it would be impossible, not merely difficult.

Edit to add: try using catas/trebs against the enemy siege. Aim at the ground next to the bubble, as splash damage can still get through.

Looks like you can just go out, do a little bit of dmg and go back in to slowly kill off the seige, but thats advance tactics only top tier guilds keep secret that regular people have never thought if to do

@Loading.4503 said:Looks like you can just go out, do a little bit of dmg and go back in to slowly kill off the seige, but thats advance tactics only top tier guilds keep secret that regular people have never thought if to do

Yeah, it is really strange but the 50 people surrounding it always seem to have a problem when I do that. Who would have tought that....

So uh what good would a minimum range do? they would just build shield gens in two different spots to cover each other.

The bigger problem here was, if that "70" were in your inner garrison, where was your own force to repel them? and if you didn't have enough to repel them, you were going to lose that garrison regardless.