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Dueling in WvW

Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭

I was solo roaming before work this morning, just trying to quickly bang out some WvW dailies, and right outside my main camp in the borderlands, I saw several enemy players in combat with players from my realm. As a Ranger, I need to attack from the longest distance possible to maximize results, so without hesitating, I started to unload on the first enemy player.

It was only after some quick combat I saw someone typed in /chat "it's a duel".

Now I've come to notice that there is a spot just south of SMC where people duel. Is there like a list of approved dueling spots or something so I don't inadvertently interrupt another 1vs1?

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  • Etheri.5406Etheri.5406 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Above south camp near the sentry on alpine maps, between qL and SM, between anza and SM on SM's side of the bridge are the only ones i still see commonly used in EU.

    nowhere on desert because desert is for PPT monkeys and bad gankers.

  • Cregath.7628Cregath.7628 Member ✭✭✭

    Yep, no reason to be "considerate". You can duel in PvP lobby or a Guild Hall. Not like someone is actively switching in 6 different guilds.

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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Turkeyspit.3965 said:
    I was solo roaming before work this morning, just trying to quickly bang out some WvW dailies, and right outside my main camp in the borderlands, I saw several enemy players in combat with players from my realm. As a Ranger, I need to attack from the longest distance possible to maximize results, so without hesitating, I started to unload on the first enemy player.

    It was only after some quick combat I saw someone typed in /chat "it's a duel".

    Now I've come to notice that there is a spot just south of SMC where people duel. Is there like a list of approved dueling spots or something so I don't inadvertently interrupt another 1vs1?

    No 'approved spot' exists anywhere.

    On the alpine borderlands, the windmill has always been generally where duelers go. I choose to leave them alone, but by all means, it's not a given.

    Like others have said, south of SMC or anywhere in range of the archers is a bad place. Your call on whether to attack them or not.

    I think you did the right thing by assuming you were helping, and then chose to back off when your side noted it.

    But like others have said, killing them isn't wrong either. I choose to do what you did.

  • Ubi.4136Ubi.4136 Member ✭✭✭✭

    People can attempt to "duel" anywhere. In wvw, feel free to +1 anytime you want, are bored, or you need to reset your participation timer.
    There are plenty of other places people can duel. Guild halls, custom arenas, and even Obsidian Sanctum. They could pick any of the wvw jump puzzles actually, no one goes there. Sure, if you are really, really bored you could watch, but it is a combat zone meant to kill every enemy you see. And people need to realize no one has to "respect" other players idea of "please don't hit me in a mass pvp mode map cause I just want this one guy to hit me".

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  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 28, 2018

    The usual duel spots are se smc in the clearing, east smc in the clearing, nw smc in the clearing between bridge hill smc, south sentry alpines.

    If I see a 1v1 I usually just let it go to see who wins. If my ally wins on their own they get something for confidence and pride, if they lose I immediately attack the enemy as they got their shot of confidence and pride, time to pay the price.

    Now the last time I let a duel go, I decided to res the ally, instead I had the enemy decide to attack and killed me instead and jumped on my corpse with my ally telling me they were disappointed. The rest of the night whenever I saw that enemy I killed them and returned the jumping favor to the point they kept switching classes.

    Sometimes you can be respectful and get burned. Sometimes you might just need to jump into that fight and help your ally whether they needed it or not, sometimes better to just kill and get yelled at later then never help that person again, zergs run over roamers all the time, they don't say anything because they'll get 20 kitten back at them.

    In any scenario above we're still playing on a giant battlefield, with enemies that most times probably don't respect you or your side so first instinct is to kill, but if you play wvw long enough you know who are the regular duelers for your side then leave them be and move on, if it's someone you don't know kill if you must, but don't pewpew someone just because you need a single bag, that's just sad.

    P.S Also don't care if someone jumps in my duel, it's not like it's the only fight you'll ever get. You'll sometimes also end up getting the "oh you had to call in allies huh you kitten" then a block. People like that need to be run over a few times before they get a clue.

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  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    they are trying to impose their preferred game mode onto one it wasn't designed for.

    Thats an interesting presumption. Dueling has been part of the WvW scene since WvW's inception and no where has anyone found from anet that it wasnt designated for dueling as well. Stating one way or the other would be a player concept, thus no one can comment 110% fir sure whether it was designed for dueling on top of roaming/blobbing...etc.

    Anywho, wanted to put my 2 copper pieces in.

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  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The best places to duel are in Obsidian Sanctum in the arena (one off he original dueling spots) as well as at the windmill below South camp in Alpine Borderland.

    in EB there's the upper left camp behind camp, the area with the kraits and between Durios and OW (which is also popular) as well as on the other side of SM by teh entrance to the Dredge (bottom of the cliff)...these areas (aside from beside SM) are fairly hidden from where the main groups go through

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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:
    The best places to duel are in Obsidian Sanctum in the arena (one off he original dueling spots) as well as at the windmill below South camp in Alpine Borderland.

    in EB there's the upper left camp behind camp, the area with the kraits and between Durios and OW (which is also popular) as well as on the other side of SM by teh entrance to the Dredge (bottom of the cliff)...these areas (aside from beside SM) are fairly hidden from where the main groups go through

    And in each, you won't kill dolyaks or aggro towers/keeps/camps

  • Kill them and don't be surprised if the duellers on your team don't help you out when the enemies attack you.
    Leave them and you can watch and maybe learn some neat tricks

  • Brother.1504Brother.1504 Member ✭✭✭

    I usually let duellers be but am ready to defend myself at the first indication of aggression. It’s still a war zone after all.

  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:
    The best places to duel are in Obsidian Sanctum in the arena (one off he original dueling spots) as well as at the windmill below South camp in Alpine Borderland.

    in EB there's the upper left camp behind camp, the area with the kraits and between Durios and OW (which is also popular) as well as on the other side of SM by teh entrance to the Dredge (bottom of the cliff)...these areas (aside from beside SM) are fairly hidden from where the main groups go through

    And in each, you won't kill dolyaks or aggro towers/keeps/camps

    Duelers dont focus on those things, hence why they are great spots..its away from everything

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  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    they are trying to impose their preferred game mode onto one it wasn't designed for.

    Thats an interesting presumption. Dueling has been part of the WvW scene since WvW's inception and no where has anyone found from anet that it wasnt designated for dueling as well. Stating one way or the other would be a player concept, thus no one can comment 110% fir sure whether it was designed for dueling on top of roaming/blobbing...etc.

    It's a WvW map, not a dueling map. It's presumptuous to think that it matter when people started dueling: players always invent (or re-invent) things to do, beyond the scope imagined by developers.

    I'm not in any way saying people should not duel. I'm saying duelers should not be surprised by interruptions if they keep choosing to fight in trafficked corridors. There are plenty of out-of-the-way locations that aren't on someone's way between objectives.

    Im not arguing whether or not they should be able to duel in WvW (as to each their own. Sometimes I duel and sometimes I focus on caps), im more aiming at the fact people seem fixated that they know for a fact (without being a dev to be able to say 100% for sure) that dueling in WvW was never intended.

    Thats all.

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  • HazyDaisy.4107HazyDaisy.4107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    All is fair in love and war, as a roamer you can't expect every zerg to respect your desire to roam unscathed therefore as a dueler you can't expect immunity from every other single passerbys or zerg flyovers. We each play our game our way with a certain level of risk involved, some will respect your game and some wont, but if they don't respect your game, you can't force them to.

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  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭

    At your discretion. If an ally calls it duel just move on. Downed state exists anyhow.

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  • DemonSeed.3528DemonSeed.3528 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 28, 2018

    @intox.6347 said:
    As a roamer, if they fight under SM i instantly attack them. If they are in borderlands above camp... it depends on my mood... but once somebody say something like... its duel.... i never leave and fight till death. Only places which i can respect are that hidden ones ... like south of borderlands... near mill ...

    Its war world.... from defeated player is score, drop, wxp.... if you really want duel.... go hide yourself... dont make it in middle of map.

    Not just that - some of these guys won't hesitate to kill you even if you just came to watch lol, so no need to be nice, if it's red it's dead. Just remember that if you choose not to kill them and be nice, they don't always reciprocate. That said, there are nice duelers out there with manners. If they are being sensible and out of the way I don't mind watching either, but the trolly ones must always die :D

    PS - don't contest stuff and people won't kill you [mostly]

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:
    The best places to duel are in Obsidian Sanctum in the arena (one off he original dueling spots) as well as at the windmill below South camp in Alpine Borderland.

    in EB there's the upper left camp behind camp, the area with the kraits and between Durios and OW (which is also popular) as well as on the other side of SM by teh entrance to the Dredge (bottom of the cliff)...these areas (aside from beside SM) are fairly hidden from where the main groups go through

    And in each, you won't kill dolyaks or aggro towers/keeps/camps

    Duelers dont focus on those things, hence why they are great spots..its away from everything

    True to a point. However, south of Ruins in alpine, some will kill that come from south camp. They are fair game.

  • Norbe.7630Norbe.7630 Member ✭✭✭

    you can attack and kill those duelers,
    some people transfer servers just to duel their guildmates, friends etc. on a matchup
    if a player in your team says its a duel, its a warning that if you go further, those dueler participants and/or spectators will attack you (up to your skill if you can kill all of them) and i suggest you do
    lastly, if you do cuz im bored watching outnumbered roaming 1vx killing video threads posted here on WvW section, try to make something different video by recording yourself killing those duelers and their spectators, now thats the real 1vX ^_^

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  • Roxanne.6140Roxanne.6140 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 28, 2018

    One time I stopped attacking an enemy because it was a duel. Then the enemy duelist proceeded to take our camp and kill other allied zergling after winning the duel.

    Its the same thing in overwatch. An enemy Mercy waved at me and I didn't kill her because of reason. After that, the enemy Mercy went to solo heal Winston who proceeded to kill me.

    All is fair in love and war, there's nothing to say you can't duel but there should be even less reason to stop others from attacking the duel. Just do what you want in the playground.

  • Trajan.4953Trajan.4953 Member ✭✭✭

    as long as Said "dueling" doesn't keep contesting waypoints I will generally leave them be.

  • zerorogue.9410zerorogue.9410 Member ✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    No 'approved spot' exists anywhere.

    Actually, Anet Specifically made the arena in the obsidian sanctum for dueling, gvg, what have you. It was used for a time before they just went back to dueling outside objectives again.

    In my opinion, duelers have been given far more consideration from the devs than most players, and they would rather be a problem to others. To me, if the name is red, its dead.

  • RedShark.9548RedShark.9548 Member ✭✭✭✭

    ha, i duel alot myself and ppl that intervene in duells are told to stop and if they dont, they most likely die :)
    its just something you dont do out of respect imo
    if you are that desperate for a bag or participation im feeling bad for you
    ppl saying, oh but you can duell in obsi dont consider that most duels happen spontanious, you are roaming meet someone you fight, its a good fight, he or you doesnt finish you and lets you get back up and then you go for some more rounds, other ppl see that and ask for a chance to duell too
    its not like you have some big group in some chat that just make out a time to meet and then start duelling

  • People like to duel around sm. But if you attack the person I'm dueling, and I tell you to stop, and you don't, and then you proceed to have your kitten handed to you, don't get mad at me. I warned you. Dueling is how you get better, am I'm not surprised that nearly 95% of the time when my duels are interrupted by 1 person they die. And you best believe I BM my own server when they get their kitten handed to them. Give em a nice siege burial and don't revive.

    General rule of thumb is that if there are people idly watching nearby, or if they emoted a 'bow' to each other, then it's a duel. Duels can happen anywhere. You don't have to respect duels. It's not against the rules to be a jerk off.

  • Mr Green.4157Mr Green.4157 Member ✭✭
    edited June 29, 2018

    The whole idea behind a duel is that it allows for the most fights in the shortest amount of time. Without the hassle of having to run back from a waypoint, multiple people can fight repeatedly quickly. The reason no one goes to duel in out of the way places is that most duels happen spontaneously. Two roamers who would otherwise be flipping camps and sentries, killing yaks, tapping keeps, and ganking backliners and stragglers will run into each other and spend a while fighting. If you interrupt those duels the roamers are just going to go back to flipping camps and sentries, killing yaks, tapping keeps and ganking backliners and stragglers to keep their participation up while they look for someone new to duel. If you don't like them doing those things don't interrupt the duels as they would almost always much rather be dueling.

    +1ing a duel is a crappy thing to do because it wastes the time of everyone involved for essentially no reward. No one gets a challenging and rewarding fight, the war score contribution from killing a single player is negligible, the kill reward is bad, and the roamer will almost always end up going off and doing something more annoying. The only reason you could have for knowingly +1ing a duel is to ruin everyone else's time. That is why people who +1 duels are generally looked upon poorly.

  • Henry.5713Henry.5713 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 29, 2018

    That spot is used as a dueling area by the community. Though, there is no in-game rule (no matter what people may claim) that forces you to behave and allow others to have 'fair' duels or whatever there. You may decide to leave them alone now that you know. That is all.
    Don't see the point in getting mad about stuff like this. I duel people quite frequently and get interrupted once in a while like most people do. All you have to do is to stop attacking for a few seconds which usually leads to the interference getting taken care of quickly.

    Other than some accepted dueling areas, telling people not to interfere with 1vs1 around objectives is a little silly. Why would anyone leave you alone if you threaten them like that? Not to mention that the real spice of solo roaming comes from entering enemy land and not knowing how many people will show up but that they will almost certainly outnumber you.

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  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Henry.5713 said:
    Not to mention that the real spice of solo roaming comes from entering enemy land and not knowing how many people will show up but that they will almost certainly outnumber you.

    Which is what WvW is. its a warzone, not a daycare center.

    I dont respect duelers yelling "omg duel!" one bit.

    Either I respect a fight - which can be 1v1, 2v2, 4v4, whatever - or I respect the player. The former is at my own discretion and suffer no automatic dueling immunity (a good fight is a good fight) and the latter is never earned by standing on an island waiting for a safe fight while the rest of us fight outmanned.

  • whoknocks.4935whoknocks.4935 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:
    These people are among the most vile I've seen in this game lol.

    Hit one on accident and get spammed by 2 people for the next 5 minutes is my experience. I loathe them.

    The more viles are the stupid gankers who attack you off objective 5vs1 and then bm you with siege and whisper to get good. And just because you killed one of them in a fair 1vs1, they called for guild mates for revenge. Those are the real cowards and garbage players in wvw.

    If you wanna do the objective join a zerg and fight other zergs, or make an havoc and fight other havocs, don't chase 1 player 10vs1 for half the map like a kitten eager kitten. Killing one player on a 2+ will make you just worse at the game and as soon you find yourself in a 1vs1 scenario you die like an ant because only got easy cheap kills.

  • nativity.3057nativity.3057 Member ✭✭✭

    People here acting like duelers complain, when more often than not, the one actually complaining is the +1'er who got stomped.
    There have been countless times where I have stopped my duel, type "it's a duel", and then get flamed by the guy who tried to +1 because I didn't help.
    If you're going to +1, at the very least, don't flame. Hopefully, you're good enough to get the stomp, not get stomped.

    I don't get why the community berates dueling. Dueling is the best way to get better at roaming. If you don't know how to fight each class (and with experience you'll know what you can and can't fight), you won't be able to roam efficiently because you'll need to respawn every minute. There are less duels happening now than before, and it really shows through the quality of roamers in every server.

    To the people saying "duel in PvP" or "duel in guild hall", that defeats the entire purpose. We're not dueling to learn mechanics, but to learn interactions that happen in the WvW environment. PvP has standardized builds with lower stats across the board, while PvE has different skill balances (hello Full Counter, retaliation, etc.). Dueling in either of those places is wholly different to WvW dueling.

  • Henry.5713Henry.5713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dawdler.8521 said:

    @Henry.5713 said:
    Not to mention that the real spice of solo roaming comes from entering enemy land and not knowing how many people will show up but that they will almost certainly outnumber you.

    Which is what WvW is. its a warzone, not a daycare center.

    I dont respect duelers yelling "omg duel!" one bit.

    Either I respect a fight - which can be 1v1, 2v2, 4v4, whatever - or I respect the player. The former is at my own discretion and suffer no automatic dueling immunity (a good fight is a good fight) and the latter is never earned by standing on an island waiting for a safe fight while the rest of us fight outmanned.

    People might need to stop taking themselves so seriously with all of that 'dueling honor' and 'no bad manners' nonsense. It is a war zone in a video game and the closest thing to Open World PvP we have. Might be an age thing but it seems so a little silly to me to bow to and 'respect' every single person I meet as if I was in some real life dojo. Even more so due to the fact that there is no counting all of the hypocrites who stop caring about any supposed immunity of duels or small fights as soon as they stop winning.

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  • Chuck.2864Chuck.2864 Member ✭✭✭

    More to the point dueling in WvW is spontaneous, you don't know the people you're dueling, so saying stuff like "you can go to PvP or obsi sanctum" is stupid.

    This thread is sad as kitten. Some people can't understand that there are players in WvW who actually want good and fair fights and not just trampling roamers with your blob on the way to the next stop of the karma train. It's sad because I guarantee 90% of the people saying they don't respect dueling are bad at this game and would get stomped by the person they're attacking 1v1. I know this because 90% of the time when I see one person interrupt a duel he gets stomped, whether by me or the enemy player.

    There are unwritten rules for roaming that you should have the decency to follow. The least you can do is not interrupt duels in well known dueling spots. Don't be that guy who does it then cries when you die and don't get any help.

  • zinkz.7045zinkz.7045 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dawdler.8521 said:

    @Henry.5713 said:
    Not to mention that the real spice of solo roaming comes from entering enemy land and not knowing how many people will show up but that they will almost certainly outnumber you.

    Which is what WvW is. its a warzone, not a daycare center.

    Nah, it's more like a daycare center.

  • Vaga.5174Vaga.5174 Member ✭✭✭

    @Turkeyspit.3965 said:
    I was solo roaming before work this morning, just trying to quickly bang out some WvW dailies, and right outside my main camp in the borderlands, I saw several enemy players in combat with players from my realm. As a Ranger, I need to attack from the longest distance possible to maximize results, so without hesitating, I started to unload on the first enemy player.

    It was only after some quick combat I saw someone typed in /chat "it's a duel".

    Now I've come to notice that there is a spot just south of SMC where people duel. Is there like a list of approved dueling spots or something so I don't inadvertently interrupt another 1vs1?

    I think your answer has been given as to the location of duelling spots. Whether you choose to attack them or not is up to you, but thanks for at least asking.

  • Lahmia.2193Lahmia.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zinkz.7045 said:

    @Mr Green.4157 said:
    ...That is why people who +1 duels are generally looked upon poorly...
    ...ganking backliners and stragglers...

    Which is why some duellers are looked upon poorly and have their duel ended prematurely, you have some guy who 30 mins ago was 4v1 ganking guys in zergs builds going back to their zergs, who then expects to be left alone and have his gameplay "respected" when he is duelling outside SM, that level of hypocrisy borders on stupidity.

    Those are the kind of people I'm happy to see siege corpsed and danced upon. Or my favourite of sitting on them with the Nuhoch tonic.

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  • ProverbsofHell.2307ProverbsofHell.2307 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I let them be to be honest. When I first started WvW, I happened upon two dueling players and didn't properly understand the etiquette. They both gave me a lot of kitten for jumping in and killing the guy.

    But I tried not to be bitter, they didn't know I was new after all, and now I respect the unwritten rules, to make WvW a better place for everyone, even those who want to duel.

  • In my opinion - if you interrupt a duel that you KNOW is a duel, that's extremely rude and unsportsmanlike. The truth is, WvW is by far the best format for facilitating duels. Of course, being that it is WvW, duelers should expect that they may get run over by a zerg from time to time - it comes with the territory. If you interrupt a duel because you didn't realize it was a duel and someone sends you a message, just reply with "my apologies I didn't realize it was a duel" and move on. If they continue to harass you, then block/report the player.

  • As an Avid Dueler in WvW and whose always down to 1v1.

    **Alpine Borderlands - Behind/Next to the Windmill South of South Supply Camp. **

    Any where else is opening yourself to getting interrupted and you're only to blame if you die, get zerged, ganked, griefed, etc.

    If youre dueling in EBG youre dumb and bound to get killed.

    Plus its faster to get back from Alpine Borderlands if you actually get stomped by griefers

  • Widmo.3186Widmo.3186 Member ✭✭✭

    There aren't so many dueling ppl as there used to be.Sometimes it's not obvious that what you see is a duel,but interrupting on purpose is seriously rude.Usually after you start hitting,enemies in "duel-zone" will come after you and alliances won't help you,so keep that in mind.Also,ppl 1v1ing are mostly not everyday handless gankers wearing full zerk that only hit and run,so think twice before you start attacking to make sure you can kill him in time...
    What I'm trying to say is that sure,go and help your buddy with opponent,but if it's a duel and you overextend,expect getting corpse jumping and sieges throwing on your body if you fail.

    Dont mind me, I just randomly spam 35 skill-buttons

  • jsp.6912jsp.6912 Member ✭✭

    duelling in wvw omegalul wvw is too unballance for this kitten

  • Kaiser.9873Kaiser.9873 Member ✭✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:
    These people are among the most vile I've seen in this game lol.

    Hit one on accident and get spammed by 2 people for the next 5 minutes is my experience. I loathe them.

    This is a huge issue. Jump in on one and all of a sudden you get hate messages for long periods. Don't interfere, and get the whole why didn't you help for long periods. If they really want to duel they need to pick a spot far away where no one needs to go. Windmill on the Alpine. Center ruins on Desert. Way over past Mendons on EBG.

  • Avid WvWer and duelist checking in.

    Many duels happen between strangers from different servers. It happens when one encounters another in a 1v1 scenario and it was a very close/good fight so one whispers the other something like "GF want to go behind the windmill and duel?" as a very common scenario. It doesn't really make sense to go to PvP because the balancing runes/stats are completely different. Even the guild hall has slightly different balancing and takes more time, not to mention you aren't earning any pips or rewards. Obsidian Sanctum involves going to a different map so for convenience purposes it's just easier to go behind the windmill and duel. These things just happen organically rather than it being planned "oh me and my friends are going to duel in wvw".

    If you duel just north of the south camp it is at your own discretion that it gets interrupted. Many roamers, zergs, groups run through that area and that area is in the way of objectives like dolyaks, sentries, etc. It's pretty much not a good place to duel at all. Right beside SM as well is not a good place at all and as a duelist you should absolutely expect for your duel to get interrupted; and you shouldn't be mad about it.

    I will usually respect a good 1v1, it's good to see zerglings actually go outside of their box once in awhile and actually learn their own class mechanics and acquire some skill which would be helpful to the server.

    If somebody is fighting at the windmill I see no point in interrupting the duel aside from trying to grief or be a kitten. This is because the dueler's intentionally picked a spot which is not interfering with anything and trying to be reasonable and civil by doing so. Yes everything is fair game in WvW but from a logical standpoint why would you go behind the windmill? There are literally no objectives there so you aren't getting any WXP or bags. So if you show up there ganking two people dueling you're just a terrible WvW player in general or a kitten.

    More than 90% of the time as well in my experience it isn't the duelers that are complaining, it is the +1ers that complain about "why you didn't help?", "why you laugh?", "its wvw duel somewhere else". It's WvW, I can play it how I want, don't like it who cares. I will usually say it is a duel and most players are sensible enough to back off. If they get stomped then they pretty much got the message. But if you interrupt it no big deal to me, 90% of these interrupters are getting killed off anyways so it is only a minor hiccup.

    I laugh at some of these responses in the thread, it was clearly posted by players who mostly run in zergs and the above scenario happens to them and then they cry about it. Some people can't appreciate a good duel and are desperate enough for one bag lol. I don't get the aversiveness of having a few good duels and then getting on with roaming.

  • Xenash.1245Xenash.1245 Member ✭✭

    I'll personally never understand how anyone who wants to duel in WvW could be entitled to not having someone kill them should they choose to duel out in the open on commonly traversed paths. Formerly I was all about letting duelists have their space, but since the arena in the obsidian sanctum is a thing I don't see any reason to show mercy towards the players that choose to duel outside of it.

    I'm sorry if I sound like a kitten, truly I do since I don't want to come across as overly mean. But with how bursty thing's have become, and how random the spots for some duelers can be. I just honestly don't have the means to question is something is a duel before someone dies.

  • Drastic.8920Drastic.8920 Member ✭✭

    As someone who loves to 1v1, a lot of my duels happen adhoc. If someone interrupts, I'm fine with it since I don't expect people to know or care for it. If it gets interrupted and it was a fun duel before the interruption, I usually whisper the person so that we move elsewhere.

    As for if someone else may be dueling, I usually ask or wait until it's over and see if they attempt to stomp. Other times, I'll help down the player and let my servermate decide to stomp or not.

  • Warkind.6745Warkind.6745 Member ✭✭✭

    Most solo roamers on my server don't like their 1v1s being interrupted, so I don't often get in their way. Last time I saw someone struggling and jumped in to help they left and I had to spend ten minutes rolling around in the dirt with the mirage they were fighting.

    All is vain.

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