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Dual seats for mounts


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Would you like to see an additional seat on your mount(s) to ride beside with your friend all over Tyria?
If not, would you consider it?

I personally would love to have dual seats! After seeing a coupe of mount concept arts by ANet's amazing skilled artists, it seems like they were even consider it to make it dual! I wonder why it didn't turn out in the end, :(
It would be great if they worked similar as World of Warcraft's mounts- dual seats, kind of..

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Dual seats for mounts 106 votes

Yes, I want an additional seat!
50% 53 votes
No, I do not want dual seats.
39% 42 votes
Other.
10% 11 votes

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  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Im kinda confused how this would work, and then why?

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  • Inculpatus cedo.9234Inculpatus cedo.9234 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I believe, if you watch the Dev video on the making of Mounts, the answer to why there are no 'dual' seating options would be explained.
    (The player and the Mount are not separate entities, as was first envisioned.)

  • Alga.6498Alga.6498 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    I believe, if you watch the Dev video on the making of Mounts, the answer to why there are no 'dual' seating options would be explained.
    (The player and the Mount are not separate entities, as was first envisioned.)

    Ohh, sounds cool, going to Watch that dev video right away, :tongue:

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  • lokh.2695lokh.2695 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Voted no. Not because I wouldn't like the idea, more options are always better. But mounts are rather easy to get and I'd rather have them develop something else instead. It's a luxury thing that probably wouldn't pay for itself unlike other features like build templates, playable tengu or capes.

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  • mbhalo.1547mbhalo.1547 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 10, 2018

    It was super fun to ride 2-player mount in Archeage, it can be even more fun in GW2.

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It would be cool, but they had to get it right. I can also imagine it being a huge pain in the butt with latency

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  • Fraghound.5730Fraghound.5730 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 11, 2018

    I haven't voted quite yet because I'm stuck in the middle on it. Side note though: dang that art is NICE (I want that backpack in it. And Spear. And that cute flag).

    The dual seats sounds nice but I would personally likely never use it unless it was flopped into a LS episode or something. Which sounds kinda fun now that I think about it. Outside of that though, I'm not exactly one with friends and everyone I know playing in the game kinda just do their own thing with their own mount. I'm sure roleplayers and people with close buddies would love it though so if it ever gets into the game, more power to them! c:

    Edit: I voted yes because the more I think about it the more fun it sounds.

  • Nash.3974Nash.3974 Member ✭✭✭

    I always imagined that to be fun. However I wouldn’t need them to add that option to all mounts or the current ones we have. I‘d rather have them make a new mount who has the ability for that (even though I think being able to duo ride a griffon would be cool)

  • I would like it but it’s probably not feasible according to what the Dev said. I gather that WoW does have double seat mounts. It would be interesting to know how those mounts are made as compared to this game’s.

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  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I had fun with it in WoW. Handy way to help a friend get around.
    (Or fall of a cliff in Sholazar Basin and get both of us killed. >.>)

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  • Dreadshow.9320Dreadshow.9320 Member ✭✭✭

    Dev resources would be better put elsewhere. Ride next to your friend is a suitable workaround.

  • Zeivu.3615Zeivu.3615 Member ✭✭✭

    Why? Anyone with PoF can earn their own. If you are in a Vanilla map, just use those Teleport to Friend stones that Arenanet tosses at us with violent force. lol

  • Alga.6498Alga.6498 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 11, 2018

    @Zeivu.3615 said:
    Why? Anyone with PoF can earn their own. If you are in a Vanilla map, just use those Teleport to Friend stones that Arenanet tosses at us with violent force. lol

    Yeah, I keep using ToF on a daily base across my characters, I still have like over 210 left of them, :lol:

    Indeed though, we don't need this thanks to waypoints and comparing to WoW, you actually have to use your mount to move around maps, but it could be a nice feature just for fun and perhaps we get even bigger maps in our 3rd expansion, :)

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  • RoseofGilead.8907RoseofGilead.8907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Rauderi.8706 said:
    I had fun with it in WoW. Handy way to help a friend get around.
    (Or fall of a cliff in Sholazar Basin and get both of us killed. >.>)

    I once asked my husband to fly one of my alts to the Alliance shrine in Pandaria. He got on his flying two-seater mount, and we flew over. Unfortunately, he flew us right to the Horde one (he mains Horde), and I didn't notice until he got too close. We died a painful death. Very, very painful.

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  • AliamRationem.5172AliamRationem.5172 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Yes! But I think it might be a good idea if they designed a new mount that allowed passengers rather than adding to existing mounts. Elephants?

  • Reverielle.3972Reverielle.3972 Member ✭✭✭

    If they can overcome the inherent problems associated with two player characters on the same mount with vastly different pings, and the problems with syncing and graphical glitching/displacement that can arise as a result, then yes I'd love them. If not though, then no, they wouldn't be a good addition.
    (e.g. Black Desert Online has doubling on mounts, but the de-syncing that occurs is horrible.)

  • Hevoskuuri.3891Hevoskuuri.3891 Member ✭✭✭

    As a concept, giving lifts to newbies or F2P friends would be awesome. However this is a very minor 'issue' and I honestly doubt they'll ever go with it, so I won't start dreaming.

  • Steve The Cynic.3217Steve The Cynic.3217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Reverielle.3972 said:
    If they can overcome the inherent problems associated with two player characters on the same mount with vastly different pings, and the problems with syncing and graphical glitching/displacement that can arise as a result, then yes I'd love them. If not though, then no, they wouldn't be a good addition.
    (e.g. Black Desert Online has doubling on mounts, but the de-syncing that occurs is horrible.)

    This, mostly. Most mounts in Runes of Magic were single-seat (although the "Rune Disk" was more like a Silver-Surfer skateboard-without-wheels, so you rode it standing up, but solo), but they did have two-seat mounts.

    And the two-seat mounts were erratic because of the game's "loose" client/server sync behaviour. Under normal circumstances, this looseness caused minor problems:

    • A foe directly in front of you might be "too far" or "not in line of sight" (meaning it was really behind you).
    • A foe apparently ten to fifteen feet in front was really behind that bush over there, still in range of your bow, but hidden, so it looked like a three-inch-high bump in the ground was blocking your line of sight.
    • If you were tight-rope walking on a narrow beam or a rope, the server might suddenly be convinced you fell off even though the client thought you didn't, and the distance between your client's opinion and the server's opinion would be too great, and the server would summarily kill you.

    The last one of these caused some oddities:

    • I was walking on a narrow beam inside my house, and even though RoM houses are "safe" areas where you cannot take damage, suddenly I was dead, prompting a forum thread titled "I died in my house!"
    • Two-seat mounts were notorious for killing the passenger because now there were three different machines that were keeping track of everybody's position.

    When they proposed a six-seat mount in a future release, it was greeted on the forums with ridicule, as an ideal way for the riders to commit mass murder of their passengers.

    That said, the client/server sync system in GW2 is considerably less "loose" than RoM's (almost all games are less loose than RoM in this respect).

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    @Fenom.9457 said:
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    This. Even in terms of feasibility there is a player scale issue that would cause clipping due to their differences in size.

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  • DeanBB.4268DeanBB.4268 Member ✭✭✭

    While I'm not opposed to the idea, I could see it leading to "tours" being sold, where someone with a dual-mount would ferry someone through the maps for a fee. Now I have multiple accounts, so could then do so as well on my alts, but I don't see that as a healthy thing for the game.

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  • FrizzFreston.5290FrizzFreston.5290 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I cant see why anyone would vote no against a new feature. While the amount of work might not be worth it, I generally answer the question for the idea itself.

    I wouldnt dislike a multiperson mount. So yes.

    I personally would also include multi person vehicles, where one or multiple persons operate a turret/turrets while the other drives.

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  • Game of Bones.8975Game of Bones.8975 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The only reason I'd want a second seat (or sidecar) is for my ranger's pet to hang its head out the side like a dog in a car.

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  • Yes please. I was thinking about this the other when playing with a friend who didnt do pof yet. We were doing VB meta. Well, we missed a lot of eventsjust because we were on foot and everbody else was mounted.
    And also because more features is always ok for me.

  • Cyrin.1035Cyrin.1035 Member ✭✭✭

    @mbhalo.1547 said:
    It was super fun to ride 2-player mount in Archeage, it can be even more fun in GW2.

    Just another reason to love Archeage.

  • MithranArkanere.8957MithranArkanere.8957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'd rather have a specific 'carrier' mount that can carry up to 4 other people but it doesn't have any powerful speed or movement powers, so it can be both to carry newbies around in core maps to help them catch up, and in WvW to help them reach the frontlines, since it would not run much faster than with swiftness or the blessing of elements, and it won't let anyone jump over walls in WvW.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Alga.6498 said:
    Would you like to see an additional seat on your mount(s) to ride beside with your friend all over Tyria?

    While this would be fun (at least on the paper), I see practical issues with it, namely the frequent swapping of mounts that you have to do in many areas.


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  • ProverbsofHell.2307ProverbsofHell.2307 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Definitely not. This isn't sustainable, worthwhile content.

    It's a toy. That's it, just like the beetle. This is NOT content worth the time to develop tbh.

  • DragonSlayer.1087DragonSlayer.1087 Member ✭✭✭

    You gonna put two Norns on a Griffon? that thing won't be able to fly.

  • I would run a taxi service with the beetle.

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