Slowpokeking.8720 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I always think it's stupid to make the recipe price sky high. Now that the event has returned, can Anet make the recipe drop more reasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseofGilead.8907 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 It's possible. I don't think they'll announce it ahead of time, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithranArkanere.8957 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 It will. Joe Kimmes said to MEiNMMO that old rewards will return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Buy offers are only 400 gold. :(I always wondered why it wasn't offered as a recipe from pact supply agents or via the memory boxes.Still, there's little point in asking: they'll tell us what's available when the patch arrives,ANet is never explicit about that unless they want to disrupt the economy deliberately in advance of a patch (as they did with the dye market before the Wardrobe was introduced). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 The recipe will likely return. I hope the drop rate temains the same as back then tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking.8720 Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 @zealex.9410 said:The recipe will likely return. I hope the drop rate temains the same as back then tho.is it high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 @Slowpokeking.8720 said:@"zealex.9410" said:The recipe will likely return. I hope the drop rate temains the same as back then tho.is it high?https://www.gw2tp.com/item/66165-recipe-chaos-of-lyssa?full=1At peak, the supply of the recipe on the TP was never more than 120. (Priced ~110-200 gold, back when gold was harder to come by.) Secondary peaks of 60-70 were seen twice (with prices 270-700g).Given how many participants there were for the first festivla (many people played back then (more than now) and that there were even fewer things to occupy our attention), that suggests that the drop rate was not quite as bad as precursors, but worse than special exotics. For comparison, even after all this time, last week supply dropped to 10-11, and prices were 1200-2700g. So today's 400-1300g spread is, I'm sure, a result of panic selling by hoarders. (Supply is at 13.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Cutter.9376 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I'm hoping they make it drop way more often, it shouldn't cost more to buy a recipe than it does to make the item itself (and those god backpacks aren't cheap to start with!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnius Magius.8091 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 This reminds of Grieving recipe tomes that seem to be harder to get now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking.8720 Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:@"zealex.9410" said:The recipe will likely return. I hope the drop rate temains the same as back then tho.is it high?https://www.gw2tp.com/item/66165-recipe-chaos-of-lyssa?full=1At peak, the supply of the recipe on the TP was never more than 120. (Priced ~110-200 gold, back when gold was harder to come by.) Secondary peaks of 60-70 were seen twice (with prices 270-700g).Given how many participants there were for the first festivla (many people played back then (more than now) and that there were even fewer things to occupy our attention), that suggests that the drop rate was not quite as bad as precursors, but worse than special exotics. For comparison, even after all this time, last week supply dropped to 10-11, and prices were 1200-2700g. So today's 400-1300g spread is, I'm sure, a result of panic selling by hoarders. (Supply is at 13.)Still too low, the price should be low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 @Slowpokeking.8720 said:Still too low, the price should be low.Why? There's no particular reason the price needs to be low. It's an incredible skin, for a small number of people, and just another item for the rest (for whom there aren't nearly enough high-value, fun drops in the game).I'm not saying the price needs to be high, just that it's equally valid.PS I'm assuming you meant, Still too high, the price should be low, and responded accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:@"zealex.9410" said:The recipe will likely return. I hope the drop rate temains the same as back then tho.is it high?https://www.gw2tp.com/item/66165-recipe-chaos-of-lyssa?full=1At peak, the supply of the recipe on the TP was never more than 120. (Priced ~110-200 gold, back when gold was harder to come by.) Secondary peaks of 60-70 were seen twice (with prices 270-700g).Given how many participants there were for the first festivla (many people played back then (more than now) and that there were even fewer things to occupy our attention), that suggests that the drop rate was not quite as bad as precursors, but worse than special exotics.Pretty much. And that was after they buffed the drop rates (original ones were likely below precursor level). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 @Astralporing.1957 said:Pretty much. And that was after they buffed the drop rates (original ones were likely below precursor level).Yes, the original drop rates were super low and they had to fix it. That caused the market to anchor the value super high and despite the new drop rate, the market never quite believed it.(And thanks for the reminder; I completely forgot to check out the change in supply after the new drop rate. While it doesn't affect the OP's question or the general market trend, it is an interesting look at how GW2 markets handle small perturbations, versus large ones.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 @Slowpokeking.8720 said:I always think it's stupid to make the recipe price sky high. Now that the event has returned, can Anet make the recipe drop more reasonable?We won't know until the release of the event. Everything you will get here are mere speculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 @Astralporing.1957 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:@"zealex.9410" said:The recipe will likely return. I hope the drop rate temains the same as back then tho.is it high?https://www.gw2tp.com/item/66165-recipe-chaos-of-lyssa?full=1At peak, the supply of the recipe on the TP was never more than 120. (Priced ~110-200 gold, back when gold was harder to come by.) Secondary peaks of 60-70 were seen twice (with prices 270-700g).Given how many participants there were for the first festivla (many people played back then (more than now) and that there were even fewer things to occupy our attention), that suggests that the drop rate was not quite as bad as precursors, but worse than special exotics.Pretty much. And that was after they buffed the drop rates (original ones were likely below precursor level).Which i think is gonna be fine considering the festival will return every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking.8720 Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:Still too low, the price should be low.Why? There's no particular reason the price needs to be low. It's an incredible skin, for a small number of people, and just another item for the rest (for whom there aren't nearly enough high-value, fun drops in the game).I'm not saying the price needs to be high, just that it's equally valid.PS I'm assuming you meant, Still too high, the price should be low, and responded accordingly.Because other gods' backpack recipe is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 @Slowpokeking.8720 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:Still too low, the price should be low.Why? There's no particular reason the price needs to be low. It's an incredible skin, for a small number of people, and just another item for the rest (for whom there aren't nearly enough high-value, fun drops in the game).I'm not saying the price needs to be high, just that it's equally valid.PS I'm assuming you meant, Still too high, the price should be low, and responded accordingly.Because other gods' backpack recipe is cheap.And? I don't follow the logic. What's the reason that the prices have to be the same? Or if they do, why not decrease the availability of the other recipes so that they are equally rare?Again, my point is that market values are somewhat arbitrary; there's no need to make the uniform only for the sake of uniformity. Having something easily-acquired and other not makes things more interesting. It gives people a chance to acquire some pieces and creates a collectors-market for others. I don't have a problem with prices being comparable; neither do I see the issue with them being different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Cutter.9376 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 It shouldn't cost more to buy the recipe than it costs to make the item, for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking.8720 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:Still too low, the price should be low.Why? There's no particular reason the price needs to be low. It's an incredible skin, for a small number of people, and just another item for the rest (for whom there aren't nearly enough high-value, fun drops in the game).I'm not saying the price needs to be high, just that it's equally valid.PS I'm assuming you meant, Still too high, the price should be low, and responded accordingly.Because other gods' backpack recipe is cheap.And? I don't follow the logic. What's the reason that the prices have to be the same? Or if they do, why not decrease the availability of the other recipes so that they are equally rare?Again, my point is that market values are somewhat arbitrary; there's no need to make the uniform only for the sake of uniformity. Having something easily-acquired and other not makes things more interesting. It gives people a chance to acquire some pieces and creates a collectors-market for others. I don't have a problem with prices being comparable; neither do I see the issue with them being different.Because they should be on the same level.And they are recipes, I don't see any reason to make it rare at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greener.6204 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 @Slowpokeking.8720 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:Still too low, the price should be low.Why? There's no particular reason the price needs to be low. It's an incredible skin, for a small number of people, and just another item for the rest (for whom there aren't nearly enough high-value, fun drops in the game).I'm not saying the price needs to be high, just that it's equally valid.PS I'm assuming you meant, Still too high, the price should be low, and responded accordingly.Because other gods' backpack recipe is cheap.And? I don't follow the logic. What's the reason that the prices have to be the same? Or if they do, why not decrease the availability of the other recipes so that they are equally rare?Again, my point is that market values are somewhat arbitrary; there's no need to make the uniform only for the sake of uniformity. Having something easily-acquired and other not makes things more interesting. It gives people a chance to acquire some pieces and creates a collectors-market for others. I don't have a problem with prices being comparable; neither do I see the issue with them being different.Because they should be on the same level.And they are recipes, I don't see any reason to make it rare at all.An important aspect in discourse is being able to explain yourself. You're claiming that there's a factual reason why these items "should be on the same level", yet you're not explaining why. Is it simply that you don't like the high price or that you feel all backpacks related to the gods should be similarly priced? Because having an opinion is totally fine, but it shouldn't be misrepresented; that only leads to confusion as people wait for your reasoned argument.A parallel situation would be if I were to state that all legendary items should be the same cost. There's no reason for this to be true, and if I were to present it as a fact, people would rightly ask me to back up my claim. If I were to state that I don't like the prices being so different, then that's just my opinion, and I'm allowed to hold it. I'm sure others would come along to discuss the topic, but they wouldn't be waiting for me to prove why the prices should be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking.8720 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 @Greener.6204 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Slowpokeking.8720 said:Still too low, the price should be low.Why? There's no particular reason the price needs to be low. It's an incredible skin, for a small number of people, and just another item for the rest (for whom there aren't nearly enough high-value, fun drops in the game).I'm not saying the price needs to be high, just that it's equally valid.PS I'm assuming you meant, Still too high, the price should be low, and responded accordingly.Because other gods' backpack recipe is cheap.And? I don't follow the logic. What's the reason that the prices have to be the same? Or if they do, why not decrease the availability of the other recipes so that they are equally rare?Again, my point is that market values are somewhat arbitrary; there's no need to make the uniform only for the sake of uniformity. Having something easily-acquired and other not makes things more interesting. It gives people a chance to acquire some pieces and creates a collectors-market for others. I don't have a problem with prices being comparable; neither do I see the issue with them being different.Because they should be on the same level.And they are recipes, I don't see any reason to make it rare at all.An important aspect in discourse is being able to explain yourself. You're claiming that there's a factual reason why these items "should be on the same level", yet you're not explaining why. Is it simply that you don't like the high price or that you feel all backpacks related to the gods should be similarly priced? Because having an opinion is totally fine, but it shouldn't be misrepresented; that only leads to confusion as people wait for your reasoned argument.A parallel situation would be if I were to state that all legendary items should be the same cost. There's no reason for this to be true, and if I were to present it as a fact, people would rightly ask me to back up my claim. If I were to state that I don't like the prices being so different, then that's just my opinion, and I'm allowed to hold it. I'm sure others would come along to discuss the topic, but they wouldn't be waiting for me to prove why the prices should be the same.Yes because they are on the same level, the price shouldn't cost too much, especially more expensive than the production cost. It benefit noone other than those who hold it for huge amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Godrik.5841 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Yeah i sold mine as soon as they announced it. I knew the price was going to tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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