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Necromancer's Minions need to be nerf

SweetPotato.7456SweetPotato.7456 Member ✭✭✭

Dear ArenaNet
thank you very much for matching 3 minions master against me today.
3 necros with a whole bunch of minions ran across my cold dead body, repeatedly.

please do something about it. this is really unfair. 1 players can stand idle with minions holding 1 points , 3 necros with minions can hold 3 points forever.
please tell me how am i suppose to play in a match up like that? when players who see a situation like this will goes idle in the holding, leaving the person me just keep getting kill by the minions, can't even get close to the player to fight.

PLEASE NEFR MINIONS. IT IS NOT FAIR.

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  • Karnasis.6892Karnasis.6892 Member ✭✭✭

    Play something that counters that kind of game play then?

  • Area of Effect damage. Or just walk briskly to outrun them. Also, when your build has a weakness, it becomes really pronounced when the opposing team is stacked with them.

  • Nuka Cola.8520Nuka Cola.8520 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Wow some of you are slow. He's sarcastic...........

  • DragonFury.6243DragonFury.6243 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @SweetPotato.7456 said:
    Dear ArenaNet
    thank you very much for matching 3 minions master against me today.
    3 necros with a whole bunch of minions ran across my cold dead body, repeatedly.

    please do something about it. this is really unfair. 1 players can stand idle with minions holding 1 points , 3 necros with minions can hold 3 points forever.
    please tell me how am i suppose to play in a match up like that? when players who see a situation like this will goes idle in the holding, leaving the person me just keep getting kill by the minions, can't even get close to the player to fight.

    PLEASE NEFR MINIONS. IT IS NOT FAIR.

    LOL

  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    NOW ive heard it all. We really complaining about MM necros? Thats so 2014 :p

    They have so many counters

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  • Please buff Necro minions.

  • BeLZedaR.4790BeLZedaR.4790 Member ✭✭✭

    Off all the things? I’m confused.

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  • @SweetPotato.7456 said:
    Dear ArenaNet
    thank you very much for matching 3 minions master against me today.
    3 necros with a whole bunch of minions ran across my cold dead body, repeatedly.

    please do something about it. this is really unfair. 1 players can stand idle with minions holding 1 points , 3 necros with minions can hold 3 points forever.
    please tell me how am i suppose to play in a match up like that? when players who see a situation like this will goes idle in the holding, leaving the person me just keep getting kill by the minions, can't even get close to the player to fight.

    PLEASE NEFR MINIONS. IT IS NOT FAIR.

    Oh Brother! You died because it was 3 vs 1.

    Losing a fight against 3 others doesn't make minions OP. Posting this rant only makes you look like a sour grape.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If you're serious OP:

    Tell us your class and post your build, some people here might be able to help you...

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    Please allow team queue with rewards again at our own discretion

  • Metzie.9083Metzie.9083 Member ✭✭

    Made my day! Troll post? #lol

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  • suffish.4150suffish.4150 Member ✭✭

    I agree minions need a nerf. I really struggle in the matchup against minion necro. The NPCs just soak up so much damage while the necro just freecasting on me. It’s really demoralising for me to lose to AI and it really does need to change. Maybe remove minions from pvp? Doing so would certainly increase the skill level in pvp and not let people get carrried by NPCs.

  • alez.2137alez.2137 Member ✭✭

    This hate on the necro starts to be pretty ridiculous. You have it nerfed it to the ground that he is completely underperforming on pve and barely performing on spvp, now u want to nerf builds with minions that nobody >1300 rating uses on spvp...

    Lets ask for remove of mesmer npcs too, and ranger pets, and engi gyro, and thief...

  • DragonFury.6243DragonFury.6243 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @suffish.4150 said:
    I agree minions need a nerf.

    LOL

    I really struggle in the matchup against minion necro. The NPCs just soak up so much damage while the necro just freecasting on me.

    L2P

    It’s really demoralizing for me to lose to AI and it really does need to change. Maybe remove minions from pvp

    So that also mean removing clone and ranger pet

    Doing so would certainly increase the skill level in pvp and not let people get carried by NPCs.

    in SPVP players are carried by passives not NPC

  • Daishi.6027Daishi.6027 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Can we please get a system that revolves around a few medium skill level milestones and not let anyone below that post on this forum?

  • witcher.3197witcher.3197 Member ✭✭✭✭

    You could pit 3 MM necs against a bunker FB and they'd couldn't even scratch him. There are plenty of ways to counter them in this meta.

  • PaRaPhReNiA.8763PaRaPhReNiA.8763 Member ✭✭✭

    @DragonFury.6243 said:

    @suffish.4150 said:
    I agree minions need a nerf.

    LOL

    I really struggle in the matchup against minion necro. The NPCs just soak up so much damage while the necro just freecasting on me.

    L2P

    It’s really demoralizing for me to lose to AI and it really does need to change. Maybe remove minions from pvp

    So that also mean removing clone and ranger pet

    Doing so would certainly increase the skill level in pvp and not let people get carried by NPCs.

    in SPVP players are carried by passives not NPC

    LUL everybody knows mm necro is broken and needs to be nerfed, dont Defend IT

  • Avigrus.2871Avigrus.2871 Member ✭✭✭

    6/10... solid effort. I bought it for a second.

  • Solori.6025Solori.6025 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 23, 2018

    @eksn.7264 said:
    What year is this.

    Yea it's like pvp is in full on regression.

    At least we have meme's coming back though.

    Next up...100blades..
    Please?

    Tingle my stingleberry

  • SweetPotato.7456SweetPotato.7456 Member ✭✭✭

    First of all, none of you have made a valid point that 3 Necros with minions aren't over power in a match, when the match up made1 player upon seeing it and play for 3 seconds had left, and another standing in the holding, it was a matchup so bad and opponent so OP that left only 3 players actually trying to do anything.

    Secondly this post is for ArenaNet to review, depending on weather they are hard working enough to look into this matter. Either fix the matchup or nerf the MM necros.

    Come up with a good explanation that say PvP with 3 stacking Necros with minions is not op or go ahead and make fun of me. Because so far, other then you lot making fun of me, I haven't see one valid point that proof 3 necros stacking in a match isn't OP.

    It's like stacking scourges in WvW , people can cry scourge stacking is OP and stacking minions aren't?

  • aceofbass.2163aceofbass.2163 Member ✭✭✭

    @SweetPotato.7456 said:
    First of all, none of you have made a valid point that 3 Necros with minions aren't over power in a match, when the match up made1 player upon seeing it and play for 3 seconds had left, and another standing in the holding, it was a matchup so bad and opponent so OP that left only 3 players actually trying to do anything.

    Secondly this post is for ArenaNet to review, depending on weather they are hard working enough to look into this matter. Either fix the matchup or nerf the MM necros.

    Come up with a good explanation that say PvP with 3 stacking Necros with minions is not op or go ahead and make fun of me. Because so far, other then you lot making fun of me, I haven't see one valid point that proof 3 necros stacking in a match isn't OP.

    It's like stacking scourges in WvW , people can cry scourge stacking is OP and stacking minions aren't?

    Oh my god. OP was serious.

  • @SweetPotato.7456 said:
    First of all, none of you have made a valid point that 3 Necros with minions aren't over power in a match, when the match up made1 player upon seeing it and play for 3 seconds had left, and another standing in the holding, it was a matchup so bad and opponent so OP that left only 3 players actually trying to do anything.

    Secondly this post is for ArenaNet to review, depending on weather they are hard working enough to look into this matter. Either fix the matchup or nerf the MM necros.

    Come up with a good explanation that say PvP with 3 stacking Necros with minions is not op or go ahead and make fun of me. Because so far, other then you lot making fun of me, I haven't see one valid point that proof 3 necros stacking in a match isn't OP.

    It's like stacking scourges in WvW , people can cry scourge stacking is OP and stacking minions aren't?

    Ok... Now let's say the same thing happens with 3 scourges stacking. No minion and you have the same team which gave up against minion mancers. Everything will happen the same, just even faster now, because the scourges can tank even more dmg and output twice or thrice the ammount of dmg a necro without any skills can... :|

  • Airdive.2613Airdive.2613 Member ✭✭✭

    @suffish.4150 said:
    I agree minions need a nerf. I really struggle in the matchup against minion necro. The NPCs just soak up so much damage while the necro just freecasting on me. It’s really demoralising for me to lose to AI and it really does need to change. Maybe remove minions from pvp? Doing so would certainly increase the skill level in pvp and not let people get carrried by NPCs.

    We need more diversity, not less. It's more reasonable to buff every profession's summoned creatures. Right now only elementals and for some extent thieves' guild can be used competitively. (Hounds of Balthazar are also really good for a chronomancer, but the skill is only available in WvW.)

  • Airdive.2613Airdive.2613 Member ✭✭✭

    @SweetPotato.7456 said:

    Come up with a good explanation that say PvP with 3 stacking Necros with minions is not op or go ahead and make fun of me. Because so far, other then you lot making fun of me, I haven't see one valid point that proof 3 necros stacking in a match isn't OP.

    It's pretty much a l2p issue. Watch out for the important skills: try to dodge or block flesh golem's charge and bone fiend's immobilizing shot while damaging the blood fiend and, if possible, applying area control to the small ones. Once the blood fiend is dead, you can get to the bone fiend, and the last target is usually the flesh golem (because it's tankier than the other ones). Don't bother with the small ones, just keep your distance: the sole purpose of those is to explode near you.
    Now, it gets even easier if your enemy runs the shadow fiend. You only need to negate its opening blink attack, and then you're free to retaliate in the melee range.

  • Nuka Cola.8520Nuka Cola.8520 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dami.5046 said:
    running out of stuff to ask for nerf.

    False. Mesmer is still in the game.

  • Nuka Cola.8520Nuka Cola.8520 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @aceofbass.2163 said:

    @SweetPotato.7456 said:
    First of all, none of you have made a valid point that 3 Necros with minions aren't over power in a match, when the match up made1 player upon seeing it and play for 3 seconds had left, and another standing in the holding, it was a matchup so bad and opponent so OP that left only 3 players actually trying to do anything.

    Secondly this post is for ArenaNet to review, depending on weather they are hard working enough to look into this matter. Either fix the matchup or nerf the MM necros.

    Come up with a good explanation that say PvP with 3 stacking Necros with minions is not op or go ahead and make fun of me. Because so far, other then you lot making fun of me, I haven't see one valid point that proof 3 necros stacking in a match isn't OP.

    It's like stacking scourges in WvW , people can cry scourge stacking is OP and stacking minions aren't?

    Oh my god. OP was serious.

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. When he wrote "PLEASE NEFR MINIONS. IT IS NOT FAIR." i told myself he's trolling, but he wasn't. What a gem.

  • Yannir.4132Yannir.4132 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @SweetPotato.7456 said:
    First of all, none of you have made a valid point that 3 Necros with minions aren't over power in a match, when the match up made1 player upon seeing it and play for 3 seconds had left, and another standing in the holding, it was a matchup so bad and opponent so OP that left only 3 players actually trying to do anything.

    Secondly this post is for ArenaNet to review, depending on weather they are hard working enough to look into this matter. Either fix the matchup or nerf the MM necros.

    Come up with a good explanation that say PvP with 3 stacking Necros with minions is not op or go ahead and make fun of me. Because so far, other then you lot making fun of me, I haven't see one valid point that proof 3 necros stacking in a match isn't OP.

    It's like stacking scourges in WvW , people can cry scourge stacking is OP and stacking minions aren't?

    This seems like a problem of you focusing on the wrong things. It's not the minions that kill you, it's the necro himself. Because if you die against a Minionmancer, you will be utterly blown up by a semi-decent Reaper or Scourge.

    Minionmancer is an objectively inferior playstyle because the minions do barely any damage and can be easily kited. I see these guys sometimes in unranked, and my first thought is usually: "Ah, a noob". Then I just hope there's an equally bad build/player on the opposing team.

  • Faux Play.6104Faux Play.6104 Member ✭✭✭

    @SweetPotato.7456 said:
    First of all, none of you have made a valid point that 3 Necros with minions aren't over power in a match, when the match up made1 player upon seeing it and play for 3 seconds had left, and another standing in the holding, it was a matchup so bad and opponent so OP that left only 3 players actually trying to do anything.

    Secondly this post is for ArenaNet to review, depending on weather they are hard working enough to look into this matter. Either fix the matchup or nerf the MM necros.

    Come up with a good explanation that say PvP with 3 stacking Necros with minions is not op or go ahead and make fun of me. Because so far, other then you lot making fun of me, I haven't see one valid point that proof 3 necros stacking in a match isn't OP.

    It's like stacking scourges in WvW , people can cry scourge stacking is OP and stacking minions aren't?

    A reaper with the traits that stack might on hit, and heal in shroud on boon application could 1v3 them. Three clone spam Mesmer's would be a lot worse. At least with the necro you won't have to keep retargeting it through the ai mess, and it looks significantly different than the AI.

  • SweetPotato.7456SweetPotato.7456 Member ✭✭✭

    Funny, none of you who laugh the loudest is even in the pvp leaderboard. stop trolling thank you very much.

  • Yannir.4132Yannir.4132 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @SweetPotato.7456 said:
    Funny, none of you who laugh the loudest is even in the pvp leaderboard. stop trolling thank you very much.

    They were not trolling, they thought you were because it's unbelievable someone finds Minionmancer OP.

    Unless you are mistaking Scourge Shades as minions(they are not) and this is just a misunderstanding because of false terminology.

  • Solidaris.5423Solidaris.5423 Member ✭✭✭

    Wai...wha...whe....ho.....? I don't get it? OP is not trolling? Minion Necro is OP? People started to use the latest Minion Scourge Boots Bad Build or something? o.O

  • SweetPotato.7456SweetPotato.7456 Member ✭✭✭

    It is, when it creates a bad environment for players, the match-up is wonky, the players are bad, they don't even try to fight do you not read my post?

    it is like when you have 2 thief on your team and immediately it is deemed a game unwinnable when infact if the thief are good, you will most probably own the other team, just like this situation, players went afk and logs out because they sees a MM standing there hodling the point, dont you know there are some players who will run around looking for easy cap and does nothing else.

    you think the pvp is really ideal now that we need to have situation where players leave the match because they do not think they can win the match?

    also if people who don't play pvp are talking here, please just stop.

  • Solidaris.5423Solidaris.5423 Member ✭✭✭

    @SweetPotato.7456 said:
    It is, when it creates a bad environment for players, the match-up is wonky, the players are bad, they don't even try to fight do you not read my post?

    it is like when you have 2 thief on your team and immediately it is deemed a game unwinnable when infact if the thief are good, you will most probably own the other team, just like this situation, players went afk and logs out because they sees a MM standing there hodling the point, dont you know there are some players who will run around looking for easy cap and does nothing else.

    you think the pvp is really ideal now that we need to have situation where players leave the match because they do not think they can win the match?

    also if people who don't play pvp are talking here, please just stop.

    WHAT THE HELL????? If a player goes away seeing a Minion Mancer on the point they would go away from seeing anyone on the point......Are you sure you are playing Guild Wars 2 and not Guild Wars 1? Minions are so easy to ignore and the necromancer does not have anything against you if they use minions...... Someone please enlighten me what is going on? Is there some weird Necro minion exploit I don't know of?

  • Zaraki.5784Zaraki.5784 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No, they need to be buffed.

    "Sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never be able to injure you!"
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  • Only problem dealing with minion necros are the Los and targeting the necro for attack... We can ignore minions they hardly do any damage unless you're super glass and a sneeze could kill you... Maybe you had a hard time pinpointing the necro hiding behind all his minions (you being meele)??? Or.... I watched a video where a guy created tons of minions and just stood there and killed every enemy player on point... Maybe its like that... But... That video is 4~5 years old... Featured in wooden potatoes

  • Maybe OP has a point??? Someone exploited a bug??? Perhaps??? If only OP had a video, we can look at things as it was

  • SweetPotato.7456SweetPotato.7456 Member ✭✭✭

    useless talking to players who doesn't even play pvp. Anet please review and do what ever.

  • Pls nerf 100 blades I get killed in one move! Why is this allowed!!

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