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Where is Marjory and Zojja?

Ok so i may have missed something so i need clarification? I remember seeing Zojja back in HoT when i chose to save her... but Somehow Logan Thackery came back to life when "The Head of the Snake" living story dropped. Haven't seen Marjory Since we found out "Lazarus" was actually Balthazarr using Lyssa's mirrors. Can anyone of you expert lore fans tell me where these two people are missing? Would be nice to see Zojja and Taimi in the same room together.

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  • Zeivu.3615Zeivu.3615 Member ✭✭✭

    You see Jory in POF. Zojja, we don't really know. She fell off of face of Tyria after HOT.

  • Alga.6498Alga.6498 Member ✭✭✭✭

    According to a dev, they haven't forgotten about Zojja, Caithe nor Marjory. Zojja was originally going to show up at episode 2 but got scrapped cuz too many Asuran characters or something like that..?
    Hoping to see Zojja in the next episode! AND Caithe!

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  • TheOrlyFactor.8341TheOrlyFactor.8341 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 22, 2018

    We don't know what Zojja's condition is because the PC never sees her. Sure, we can make guesses based off of a bunch of hearsay we got from Rytlock and some Asura in Episode 1 of LWS3 but until the PC actually sees her like we did Logan in Episode 3 of LWS3, we won't ever know what condition she's in. All we have is speculation, which is a bad way to leave a character considering what she went through in HoT, which is (in my opinion) really bad writing, pacing, and planning on the part of the people working on the story.

    The lack of any real concrete update on Zojja in game is really frustrating and disappointing. At this point anyone who wants an update on her would be better off just making their own resolution, be it personal headcanons, fan fiction, role playing, etc.

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  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jimbru.6014 said:

    @Oglaf.1074 said:
    Zojja was just flat-out written out of the game under the guise of having been mind-"assaulted" by Mordremoth.

    Which, second only to Eir's pointless death, is one of the biggest travesties when it comes to writing in regards of the original characters...

    I'd throw Demmi Beetlestone's demise in there as well. She and Eir were just summarily deleted from the game, really. Not good story writing at all.

    I don't play human characters, so I wasn't anywhere near invested in that character, but yeah I could imagine it feeling similarly bad.

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • TheOrlyFactor.8341TheOrlyFactor.8341 Member ✭✭✭✭

    At least with Eir and Demmi there was closure, regardless of the quality of the story writing. We don't even get that with Zojja. :\

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  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TheOrlyFactor.8341 said:
    At least with Eir and Demmi there was closure, regardless of the quality of the story writing. We don't even get that with Zojja. :\

    I'd rather they not show her as a drooling buffoon sitting in a corner, rocking back and forth.

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • Jimbru.6014Jimbru.6014 Member ✭✭✭

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @Jimbru.6014 said:

    @Oglaf.1074 said:
    Zojja was just flat-out written out of the game under the guise of having been mind-"assaulted" by Mordremoth.

    Which, second only to Eir's pointless death, is one of the biggest travesties when it comes to writing in regards of the original characters...

    I'd throw Demmi Beetlestone's demise in there as well. She and Eir were just summarily deleted from the game, really. Not good story writing at all.

    I don't play human characters, so I wasn't anywhere near invested in that character, but yeah I could imagine it feeling similarly bad.

    My main character is a human male in the Order of Whispers. Demmi and Tybalt were an important part of his early story. At least Tybalt went out heroically; Demmi didn't even get that much courtesy from ANet. Bah.

  • Klipso.8653Klipso.8653 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @TheOrlyFactor.8341 said:
    At least with Eir and Demmi there was closure, regardless of the quality of the story writing. We don't even get that with Zojja. :\

    I'd rather they not show her as a drooling buffoon sitting in a corner, rocking back and forth.

    Pretty much what she did throughout the story anyway, was it Sorrows Embrace story where she had us defend her while she was trying to open a door instead of letting Caith lock pick it in a few seconds?

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  • Jimbru.6014Jimbru.6014 Member ✭✭✭

    @Klipso.8653 said:

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @TheOrlyFactor.8341 said:
    At least with Eir and Demmi there was closure, regardless of the quality of the story writing. We don't even get that with Zojja. :\

    I'd rather they not show her as a drooling buffoon sitting in a corner, rocking back and forth.

    Pretty much what she did throughout the story anyway, was it Sorrows Embrace story where she had us defend her while she was trying to open a door instead of letting Caith lock pick it in a few seconds?

    That was reflective of the divided state of Destiny's Edge at that time in the story. Zojja wanted to prove she didn't need Caithe.

  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jimbru.6014 said:

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @Jimbru.6014 said:

    @Oglaf.1074 said:
    Zojja was just flat-out written out of the game under the guise of having been mind-"assaulted" by Mordremoth.

    Which, second only to Eir's pointless death, is one of the biggest travesties when it comes to writing in regards of the original characters...

    I'd throw Demmi Beetlestone's demise in there as well. She and Eir were just summarily deleted from the game, really. Not good story writing at all.

    I don't play human characters, so I wasn't anywhere near invested in that character, but yeah I could imagine it feeling similarly bad.

    My main character is a human male in the Order of Whispers. Demmi and Tybalt were an important part of his early story. At least Tybalt went out heroically; Demmi didn't even get that much courtesy from ANet. Bah.

    All of the Pact mentors were awesomely written. My main took up the surname “Forgalsson” in honour of his mentor.

    That’s the impact I’d like to imagine that old kitten had on my - at the time - relatively young and impressionable Norn. Seemed fitting as Forgal’s one regret is having no heirs to pass on his legacy. Seemed like the Norn thing to do. ;)

    Oh what I wouldn’t give for an option to replay those story Chapters again...!

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Not dead, but as good as for the time being. Caithe too

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  • TheOrlyFactor.8341TheOrlyFactor.8341 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @TheOrlyFactor.8341 said:
    At least with Eir and Demmi there was closure, regardless of the quality of the story writing. We don't even get that with Zojja. :\

    I'd rather they not show her as a drooling buffoon sitting in a corner, rocking back and forth.

    While I wouldn't like it either, it would be -something- compared to the huge amount of nothing we're getting now. It would be a definitive answer to whatever's going on with her. Heck, Anet could even make it a quest to cure her if they went that route for those of us (like myself) who want to see her better. I wouldn't mind a Current Event centered around healing/helping Zojja.

    Granted, I don't expect it to happen. In fact, I've slowly come to the conclusion that by this point I'm probably not going to be happy whatever Anet decides to do with her if/when they bring her back so, hey, I can always come up with my own story/headcanon that counters whatever Anet does if it means making me happy in the long run. :P

    Asura fanatic.
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  • Jimbru.6014Jimbru.6014 Member ✭✭✭

    @Fenom.9457 said:
    Not dead, but as good as for the time being. Caithe too

    Caithe is somewhere doing ---something. Which given her past record, "something" that will likely cause a great deal of pain and trouble for our characters, and possibly the world at large. I've hated her personally ever since having to play through her memories in LS2, and if I could give my voice to my character in game, I wouldn't trust her out of either line of sight or firing range, whichever is shorter. I very pointedly left her out of the final fight in HoT so Rytlock could gut her if she got out of line, and I hope someday she gets what she's got coming for everything she's done.

  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jimbru.6014 said:

    @Fenom.9457 said:
    Not dead, but as good as for the time being. Caithe too

    Caithe is somewhere doing ---something. Which given her past record, "something" that will likely cause a great deal of pain and trouble for our characters, and possibly the world at large. I've hated her personally ever since having to play through her memories in LS2, and if I could give my voice to my character in game, I wouldn't trust her out of either line of sight or firing range, whichever is shorter. I very pointedly left her out of the final fight in HoT so Rytlock could gut her if she got out of line, and I hope someday she gets what she's got coming for everything she's done.

    Mysterious character written to be mysterious to the point of absurd stupidity.

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • Pifil.5193Pifil.5193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jimbru.6014 said:

    @Oglaf.1074 said:
    Zojja was just flat-out written out of the game under the guise of having been mind-"assaulted" by Mordremoth.

    Which, second only to Eir's pointless death, is one of the biggest travesties when it comes to writing in regards of the original characters...

    I'd throw Demmi Beetlestone's demise in there as well. She and Eir were just summarily deleted from the game, really. Not good story writing at all.

    Yeah, I'd agree with that. Of course, there's so little actual story telling in this game that everything feels rushed to me, no room for subtlety or any pacing other than "break neck".

  • Mea.5491Mea.5491 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Klipso.8653 said:
    At this point zoja has been a vegetable for 3 years.

    So she's Sylvari now?

  • Felipe.1807Felipe.1807 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 22, 2018

    Last time we saw Marjory was at the end of PoF main quest right? Not sure what happened after to her...about Zojja...eh never cared for her character, they should have killed her instead of Eir...that was probably the worst point for the writer team, even worse then the nonsense Scarlet alliances lol...like really? The Norn ranger of the group is the one that is gonna die? The legendary hunters of the north cant survive in the jungle? Garm the wolf, that was the last standing with Rytlock when both Edge of Steel and Dragonspawn destiny fought, went missing and hurt and left Eir? Hahaha They sold DE as this legendary group, but anyone other then Rytlock showed to amateurs in the game...i mean Rytlock went to thet Mists and returned with super powers...DE goes to Maguma and get owned by low tier dragon minions...the same group that allmost killed a Elder Dragon....yeah i dont buy it Anet...they could had made some cool with Eir, like make her the first druid and stuff, but no, lets kill her...

  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Felipe.1807 said:
    Last time we saw Marjory was at the end of PoF main quest right? Not sure what happened after to her...about Zojja...eh never cared for her character, they should have killed her instead of Eir...that was probably the worst point for the writer team, even worse then the nonsense Scarlet alliances lol...like really? The Norn ranger of the group is the one that is gonna die? The legendary hunters of the north cant survive in the jungle? Garm the wolf, that was the last standing with Rytlock when both Edge of Steel and Dragonspawn destiny fought, went missing and hurt and left Eir? Hahaha They sold DE as this legendary group, but anyone other then Rytlock showed to amateurs in the game...i mean Rytlock went to thet Mists and returned with super powers...DE goes to Maguma and get owned by low tier dragon minions...the same group that allmost killed a Elder Dragon....yeah i dont buy it Anet...they could had made some cool with Eir, like make her the first druid and stuff, but no, lets kill her...

    Whole-heartedly agreed except the part about killing Zojja...

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • TheOrlyFactor.8341TheOrlyFactor.8341 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Felipe.1807 said:
    Last time we saw Marjory was at the end of PoF main quest right? Not sure what happened after to her...about Zojja...eh never cared for her character, they should have killed her instead of Eir...that was probably the worst point for the writer team, even worse then the nonsense Scarlet alliances lol...like really? The Norn ranger of the group is the one that is gonna die? The legendary hunters of the north cant survive in the jungle? Garm the wolf, that was the last standing with Rytlock when both Edge of Steel and Dragonspawn destiny fought, went missing and hurt and left Eir? Hahaha They sold DE as this legendary group, but anyone other then Rytlock showed to amateurs in the game...i mean Rytlock went to thet Mists and returned with super powers...DE goes to Maguma and get owned by low tier dragon minions...the same group that allmost killed a Elder Dragon....yeah i dont buy it Anet...they could had made some cool with Eir, like make her the first druid and stuff, but no, lets kill her...

    You are not acting like the person Mr. Rogers knew you could be.

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  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jimbru.6014 said:

    ~SNIP~ On a related note, Zojja's voice actress, Felicia Day, apparently no longer works with ANet and GW2. So unless they get another voice actress for Zojja, the character is probably done. ~SNIP~

    Felicia Day herself has said she would love to voice Zojja again, all she needs is a call from ArenaNet...so I'm going to presume once Zojja's back in the story it will be Felicia Day recording her voice, there's no reason for her not to.

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @Jimbru.6014 said:

    ~SNIP~ On a related note, Zojja's voice actress, Felicia Day, apparently no longer works with ANet and GW2. So unless they get another voice actress for Zojja, the character is probably done. ~SNIP~

    Felicia Day herself has said she would love to voice Zojja again, all she needs is a call from ArenaNet...so I'm going to presume once Zojja's back in the story it will be Felicia Day recording her voice, there's no reason for her not to.

    I assume that this is how most voice acting works. You’re only hired, like a consultant or whatever, when you’re needed. Having voice actors on your payroll doing absolutely nothing because their characters don’t need voicing seems like bad for business. ;)

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • Felipe.1807Felipe.1807 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 23, 2018

    @TheOrlyFactor.8341 said:

    @Felipe.1807 said:
    Last time we saw Marjory was at the end of PoF main quest right? Not sure what happened after to her...about Zojja...eh never cared for her character, they should have killed her instead of Eir...that was probably the worst point for the writer team, even worse then the nonsense Scarlet alliances lol...like really? The Norn ranger of the group is the one that is gonna die? The legendary hunters of the north cant survive in the jungle? Garm the wolf, that was the last standing with Rytlock when both Edge of Steel and Dragonspawn destiny fought, went missing and hurt and left Eir? Hahaha They sold DE as this legendary group, but anyone other then Rytlock showed to amateurs in the game...i mean Rytlock went to thet Mists and returned with super powers...DE goes to Maguma and get owned by low tier dragon minions...the same group that allmost killed a Elder Dragon....yeah i dont buy it Anet...they could had made some cool with Eir, like make her the first druid and stuff, but no, lets kill her...

    You are not acting like the person Mr. Rogers knew you could be.

    Have no idea who Mr. Rogers is...

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @Felipe.1807 said:
    Last time we saw Marjory was at the end of PoF main quest right? Not sure what happened after to her...about Zojja...eh never cared for her character, they should have killed her instead of Eir...that was probably the worst point for the writer team, even worse then the nonsense Scarlet alliances lol...like really? The Norn ranger of the group is the one that is gonna die? The legendary hunters of the north cant survive in the jungle? Garm the wolf, that was the last standing with Rytlock when both Edge of Steel and Dragonspawn destiny fought, went missing and hurt and left Eir? Hahaha They sold DE as this legendary group, but anyone other then Rytlock showed to amateurs in the game...i mean Rytlock went to thet Mists and returned with super powers...DE goes to Maguma and get owned by low tier dragon minions...the same group that allmost killed a Elder Dragon....yeah i dont buy it Anet...they could had made some cool with Eir, like make her the first druid and stuff, but no, lets kill her...

    Whole-heartedly agreed except the part about killing Zojja...

    Hahaha allways hated Zojja, maybe cause my main was Norn and seeing the way she treated Eir kind of made me hate her lol offcourse I dont want any character to do die, but to bad Anet listened to the edgy kids who are not satisfied if this game story dosent become like GoT and you have atleast 5 main characters dead per episode...result both Eir and Trahearne died for stupid reasons...even worse is seeing people wanting Dragon Watch characters to die too...

  • DragonSlayer.1087DragonSlayer.1087 Member ✭✭✭

    Rytlock ate Zojja.

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