Menzo.2185 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 How about we play WvW for a week like PvP?You enter, pick an amulet, rune and sigils from an existing selection and have fun. Is not good?You go back to respawn/base, choose another combination you prefer or want to try, and return to the fight.This would solve, for a week, a huge gap that exists in the game between advanced players and new ones. Beside, this could attract more PvP and casual PvE players to WvW. Don't?*Sorry my bad english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Call Me Tim.2319 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 sigh Amulets are for PvP... even there ugh.... my vote on this is no no no no no... what you would get is a huge drop (I bet) in the regular WvW'ers playing that week.Also, it wouldn't solve any gap. The new players still need to learn to play, they still don't have WxP so no mastery (or very little) in the rank skills etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSeed.3528 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 It will definitely not solve any gaps between advanced and new players - it has not done that for pvp either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzo.2185 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 ... not to mention the cost of building a balanced character. Will be good? No! More cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzo.2185 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 @"Balthazzarr.1349" said:sigh Amulets are for PvP... even there ugh.... my vote on this is no no no no no... what you would get is a huge drop (I bet) in the regular WvW'ers playing that week.Also, it wouldn't solve any gap. The new players still need to learn to play, they still don't have WxP so no mastery (or very little) in the rank skills etc etc.It would not solve, but it would be helpful. And... ONE WEEK only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menzo.2185 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 @DemonSeed.3528 said:It will definitely not solve any gaps between advanced and new players - it has not done that for pvp either.Will. It would solve the balance gap between builds.Power Engi vs Power Engi, will be a matter of abilities... not build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSeed.3528 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 This kind of thing will not magically make a new player fight on par with an advanced player - if that is not what you meant then I am sorry for misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagaliscious.6281 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Honestly if anything PVE players have more of an advantage with the current WVW system since all the ways to make gold in game is through PVE, so they would have the gold to be able to try different builds, and also the dungeon currency. You cannot bring gold cost to this argument, because the average PVE player probably has a lot more gold than the average WVW player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packit.2953 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 There's like 10+ other threads that regurgitated the same idea. no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arimas.3492 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I'd probably quit playing WvW altogether if they implemented the same system as spvp, it's way too limited. Best part of WvW besides large fights is the huge variety of builds and gear you can make. I've never run a full set of one stat in years now.It's necessary for spvp because of bunker builds being OP not dying while defending points and to make it more fair. In WvW it's not needed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 If it's not "easy" to implement it won't happen, certainly not for just 1 week.Also the other item is, what would be the point in gear anymore? Pve? Put amulet system in pve! Lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 If they're going to have to go through the trouble of turning wvw into spvp system... might as well be permanently not a one week event.Why do people think these things can be done like a flip of a switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 the only thing id like to see are some stat combos that are available to spvp but not to wvw/pve like the demolishers amulet for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyra.4709 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 If I wanted an amulet system I'd go play PvP. I hope the 'amulet system' never sees the light of day in WvW because I love to min/max and have the freedom to use all kinds of different stats for builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGranse.8652 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 @RedShark.9548 said:the only thing id like to see are some stat combos that are available to spvp but not to wvw/pve like the demolishers amulet for exampleYou can mix different stat gear to simulate demolisher stats, that's one of the great things about WvW. I personaly have 4 different kinds of stat combinations on my ele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 @LaGranse.8652 said:@RedShark.9548 said:the only thing id like to see are some stat combos that are available to spvp but not to wvw/pve like the demolishers amulet for exampleYou can mix different stat gear to simulate demolisher stats, that's one of the great things about WvW. I personaly have 4 different kinds of stat combinations on my ele.you can, yes but you will most likely lose statpoints because 4stat gear has more statpoints added together than 3 stat armor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 @RedShark.9548 said:@LaGranse.8652 said:@RedShark.9548 said:the only thing id like to see are some stat combos that are available to spvp but not to wvw/pve like the demolishers amulet for exampleYou can mix different stat gear to simulate demolisher stats, that's one of the great things about WvW. I personaly have 4 different kinds of stat combinations on my ele.you can, yes but you will most likely lose statpoints because 4stat gear has more statpoints added together than 3 stat armorI guess that is part of the point though: you also get the option to tweak it slightly to reach thresholds in different areas. But, yeah, having some availability of some of the stats might be good.I figure some of them (and I do not know demolisher) have been held out of PvE and WvW because of scaling issues, but I'd be lying if I tried to say I knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGranse.8652 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 @RedShark.9548 said:@LaGranse.8652 said:@RedShark.9548 said:the only thing id like to see are some stat combos that are available to spvp but not to wvw/pve like the demolishers amulet for exampleYou can mix different stat gear to simulate demolisher stats, that's one of the great things about WvW. I personaly have 4 different kinds of stat combinations on my ele.you can, yes but you will most likely lose statpoints because 4stat gear has more statpoints added together than 3 stat armorThat is true. A full set of 4 stat ascended armor gives 3612 points of stats in total while a full set of 3 stat ascended armor gives 3303 points of stats in total, in short you would lose 309 stat points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 @Strider Pj.2193 said:@RedShark.9548 said:@LaGranse.8652 said:@RedShark.9548 said:the only thing id like to see are some stat combos that are available to spvp but not to wvw/pve like the demolishers amulet for exampleYou can mix different stat gear to simulate demolisher stats, that's one of the great things about WvW. I personaly have 4 different kinds of stat combinations on my ele.you can, yes but you will most likely lose statpoints because 4stat gear has more statpoints added together than 3 stat armorI guess that is part of the point though: you also get the option to tweak it slightly to reach thresholds in different areas. But, yeah, having some availability of some of the stats might be good.I figure some of them (and I do not know demolisher) have been held out of PvE and WvW because of scaling issues, but I'd be lying if I tried to say I knew.well demolisher would be exactly like marauder, just vita swapped out for toughness, which shouldnt affect gameplay much, toughness for me as warrior is just more beneficial than even more vitality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 @RedShark.9548 said:@Strider Pj.2193 said:@RedShark.9548 said:@LaGranse.8652 said:@RedShark.9548 said:the only thing id like to see are some stat combos that are available to spvp but not to wvw/pve like the demolishers amulet for exampleYou can mix different stat gear to simulate demolisher stats, that's one of the great things about WvW. I personaly have 4 different kinds of stat combinations on my ele.you can, yes but you will most likely lose statpoints because 4stat gear has more statpoints added together than 3 stat armorI guess that is part of the point though: you also get the option to tweak it slightly to reach thresholds in different areas. But, yeah, having some availability of some of the stats might be good.I figure some of them (and I do not know demolisher) have been held out of PvE and WvW because of scaling issues, but I'd be lying if I tried to say I knew.well demolisher would be exactly like marauder, just vita swapped out for toughness, which shouldnt affect gameplay much, toughness for me as warrior is just more beneficial than even more vitalityI can see that. Toughness on zerker though...., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 @Strider Pj.2193 said:@RedShark.9548 said:@Strider Pj.2193 said:@RedShark.9548 said:@LaGranse.8652 said:@RedShark.9548 said:the only thing id like to see are some stat combos that are available to spvp but not to wvw/pve like the demolishers amulet for exampleYou can mix different stat gear to simulate demolisher stats, that's one of the great things about WvW. I personaly have 4 different kinds of stat combinations on my ele.you can, yes but you will most likely lose statpoints because 4stat gear has more statpoints added together than 3 stat armorI guess that is part of the point though: you also get the option to tweak it slightly to reach thresholds in different areas. But, yeah, having some availability of some of the stats might be good.I figure some of them (and I do not know demolisher) have been held out of PvE and WvW because of scaling issues, but I'd be lying if I tried to say I knew.well demolisher would be exactly like marauder, just vita swapped out for toughness, which shouldnt affect gameplay much, toughness for me as warrior is just more beneficial than even more vitalityI can see that. Toughness on zerker though....,toughness on zerker? whats the problem with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straegen.2938 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 I like the concept but the programming may be too much work for a niche week of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizu.4508 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 I find the stats are way too restrictive in PvP and I would absolutely hate seeing the amulet system be implemented. WvW allows for a wide variety of builds since you can tweak stats to get exactly what you want by swapping gear in/out, unlike in PvP where all stats (for gear) are determined by a single amulet. If anything, I'd rather see PvP remove the amulets and go back to using armor+trinkets for stats. Perhaps then we would see different builds for once, and dare I say the PvP scene wouldn't look so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasp Sabreblade.5421 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 How about no traits for a week. you can still pick an elite spec, but other than the weapon access you can't choose any traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 i'd try this. would be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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