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Troll Keep Claiming

Anet how in the world did you allow the ability to build up a guild to level 22 so it can claim a keep and have zero buffs? On NSP we have a guild Quag Guild Name
Quaggan Movie Time
Guild Tag
Quag
Guild URL
https://guilds.gw2w2w.com/guilds/quaggan-movie-time
They have claimed our Garrison and have a level zero guild aura. I checked and you have allowed the ability to build a guild up to make Keep claims without requiring any wvw buffs NOT EVEN A +5!

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  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭

    That is hillarious ;-)

    Anet buff me :-(
    Make me good at game!

  • wey daw ming.5784wey daw ming.5784 Member ✭✭
    edited August 8, 2018

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • wey daw ming.5784wey daw ming.5784 Member ✭✭
    edited August 8, 2018

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    mmm... hope anet notes this.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Smugly chuckling forever.
    My sentence doesn't make sense? Well, I probably forgot to write half of it before posting.

  • Etheri.5406Etheri.5406 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2018

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

  • It's easy to get a guild with a high level and no upgrades. My micro-guild is lvl 30 with war room 2 and yet no aura upgrades. You don't have to get the auras to unlock anything except the next level of aura, and the auras are very painful upgrades, so they're easy to skip. Getting 1k wood and mithril and 200 ectos? Easy. Getting people to cough up 100 mystic coins? Like pulling teeth.

  • Grim West.3194Grim West.3194 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2018

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    It's very easy to make gold and level guilds solo or with a couple other players. Especially if you don't buy the expensive upgrades, like auras.

    In a guild with 3 active players and we're in the mid thirties (with most of the auras). But auras require 100 mystic coins each, plus other mats. Which is a lot more expensive than the items you listed.

    As someone said before, the player doing this is probably new to the claiming part of WvW. Send them a friendly tell and explain the situation. If you or they are jerks about it then there might be a problem. But don't assume the worst until you have the facts.

  • @Grim West.3194 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    It's very easy to make gold and level guilds solo or with a couple other players. Especially if you don't buy the expensive upgrades, like auras.

    In a guild with 3 active players and we're in the mid thirties (with most of the auras). But auras require 100 mystic coins each, plus other mats. Which is a lot more expensive than the items you listed.

    As someone said before, the player doing this is probably new to the claiming part of WvW. Send them a friendly tell and explain the situation. If you or they are jerks about it then there might be a problem. But don't assume the worst until you have the facts.

    Of course it easy, I have a level 32 personal bank leveled myself with level VIII aura I am leader of 2 max level guilds you are missing the point here no way should you be able to claim a keep in wvw without any buffs not even a +5. Its fine to have a small guild but in the process of you leveling your small low member guild you wouldn't work your way to the war room for keep claiming. Well if you were just doing it to troll claim then you would do it this way. When guild halls first came out people kitten and moaned that it was so hard to get a +5 for your guild so anet made changes to allow people with small guilds a easy path for getting their +5. Well in the process they now have made it real easy to make the ability to claim keeps in wvw with nothing.

  • Grim West.3194Grim West.3194 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2018

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Grim West.3194 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    It's very easy to make gold and level guilds solo or with a couple other players. Especially if you don't buy the expensive upgrades, like auras.

    In a guild with 3 active players and we're in the mid thirties (with most of the auras). But auras require 100 mystic coins each, plus other mats. Which is a lot more expensive than the items you listed.

    As someone said before, the player doing this is probably new to the claiming part of WvW. Send them a friendly tell and explain the situation. If you or they are jerks about it then there might be a problem. But don't assume the worst until you have the facts.

    Of course it easy, I have a level 32 personal bank leveled myself with level VIII aura I am leader of 2 max level guilds you are missing the point here no way should you be able to claim a keep in wvw without any buffs not even a +5. Its fine to have a small guild but in the process of you leveling your small low member guild you wouldn't work your way to the war room for keep claiming. Well if you were just doing it to troll claim then you would do it this way. When guild halls first came out people kitten and moaned that it was so hard to get a +5 for your guild so anet made changes to allow people with small guilds a easy path for getting their +5. Well in the process they now have made it real easy to make the ability to claim keeps in wvw with nothing.

    Making +5 supply a prereq for keep claiming is a good idea, something that ANET should consider.

    But it is possible to level a guild and not understand the WvW claim system and how lack of auras hurts your side. Especially players new to WvW. I think most people who level up guilds are confused about it at first. So it is an easy mistake to make. And it is really cool to see your banner up there the first couple of times.

    Send the person / guild doing it a tell. If they continue to do it then you might have enough for ANET to act on. But they won't do anything about someone who didn't realize it's a problem.

  • @wey daw ming.5784 said:
    Its fine to have a small guild but in the process of you leveling your small low member guild you wouldn't work your way to the war room for keep claiming. Well if you were just doing it to troll claim then you would do it this way.

    Why not? The scribing recipes, even some ones that are great for leveling are locked behind the various claiming upgrades. Also, the Keep Claiming upgrade itself is relatively cheap as far as upgrades go, so I could see many guilds taking it just for the 35 GXP. Now, if you're saying the upgrades shouldn't be structured this way, that's a different argument, and I'd agree. I'd rather have scribing recipes easier to access than locked behind upgrades I'd probably never use, like keep claiming. But it's a complete exaggeration to say there's no reason to work on war room upgrades except to troll.

  • Ubi.4136Ubi.4136 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    Lost in the Maguuma (TC)
    For the geographically challenged, yes, Tarnished Coast is located IN the Maguuma Jungle.

  • Hesacon.8735Hesacon.8735 Member ✭✭✭✭

    When you flip a keep, you have 45 seconds for one of the top three guilds that participated in the attack to claim it. If they were one of those guilds, why wouldn't they be allowed to claim it?

    The only glitch is immediately after reset where fastest loading time wins. Unless they're claiming it then, I don't think you have a case for trolling.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    ^^. This.

    They had claim priority evidently. No one else was willing, or able.

    Ask them kindly to claim a camp.

    Limits are there for claiming. Evidently no one else wanted that keep.

  • Honestly if a guild is largely a PVE guild, then it would make sense. PVE guild will have an easier time getting the mine upgraded, also it makes sense they would get war room resto 2, since that is a 100gxp. The other thing to think about is that the aura buffs are expensive. Everyone of them requires 100 mystic coins.

  • @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    ^^. This.

    They had claim priority evidently. No one else was willing, or able.

    Ask them kindly to claim a camp.

    Limits are there for claiming. Evidently no one else wanted that keep.

    I have a excel doc that shows every guild claiming pick a guild ill post what they have done :)

  • wey daw ming.5784wey daw ming.5784 Member ✭✭
    edited August 8, 2018

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    I have a excel doc that shows every guild claim. Pick a guild Ill post what they have done :) Yum has made 1713 claims total, 586 (34.21%) in EB, 307 (17.92%) in home bls, 1432 (83.60%) total camps your most claims are Umberglade Woods ( Camp on EB) - 153 claims your longest is 51:17:45

  • Ubi.4136Ubi.4136 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    ^^. This.

    They had claim priority evidently. No one else was willing, or able.

    Ask them kindly to claim a camp.

    Limits are there for claiming. Evidently no one else wanted that keep.

    I have a excel doc that shows every guild claiming pick a guild ill post what they have done :)

    Yes, but where are you getting that information? Source?

    Lost in the Maguuma (TC)
    For the geographically challenged, yes, Tarnished Coast is located IN the Maguuma Jungle.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    ^^. This.

    They had claim priority evidently. No one else was willing, or able.

    Ask them kindly to claim a camp.

    Limits are there for claiming. Evidently no one else wanted that keep.

    I have a excel doc that shows every guild claiming pick a guild ill post what they have done :)

    Yes, but where are you getting that information? Source?

    Prolly conversations..

    But asking them to claim a camp might be too hard.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    ^^. This.

    They had claim priority evidently. No one else was willing, or able.

    Ask them kindly to claim a camp.

    Limits are there for claiming. Evidently no one else wanted that keep.

    I have a excel doc that shows every guild claiming pick a guild ill post what they have done :)

    No response to the claim priority then?

  • Ubi.4136Ubi.4136 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    ^^. This.

    They had claim priority evidently. No one else was willing, or able.

    Ask them kindly to claim a camp.

    Limits are there for claiming. Evidently no one else wanted that keep.

    I have a excel doc that shows every guild claiming pick a guild ill post what they have done :)

    No response to the claim priority then?

    Everything I have seen in game shows that when a structure is taken, the top 3 rank guilds that got credit for the event get claim priority. If none of them claim it, it becomes open for anyone to claim it. Also, maybe a high rank guild claimed something else on the map by accident, opening it up for any guild (even one with 0 auras).

    Lost in the Maguuma (TC)
    For the geographically challenged, yes, Tarnished Coast is located IN the Maguuma Jungle.

  • @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    ^^. This.

    They had claim priority evidently. No one else was willing, or able.

    Ask them kindly to claim a camp.

    Limits are there for claiming. Evidently no one else wanted that keep.

    I have a excel doc that shows every guild claiming pick a guild ill post what they have done :)

    No response to the claim priority then?

    I have asked them kindly 100 times in team chat they do not respond. They will not show who they are and since I am in wvw about 15 hours a day everyday I would think they would see my plead for the removal :)

  • @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    good lord i am absolute trash at this video game

  • @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    Sorry pal but I do not sit in a Omega in n camp :) but you are right I am a 10k rank :) and we do use omegas to hold camps since they have 300k hp its easy for us to get there to defend the camp :)

  • Etheri.5406Etheri.5406 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    ^^. This.

    They had claim priority evidently. No one else was willing, or able.

    Ask them kindly to claim a camp.

    Limits are there for claiming. Evidently no one else wanted that keep.

    I have a excel doc that shows every guild claiming pick a guild ill post what they have done :)

    No response to the claim priority then?

    I have asked them kindly 100 times in team chat they do not respond. They will not show who they are and since I am in wvw about 15 hours a day everyday I would think they would see my plead for the removal :)

    Maybe they aren't still in game to answer.

    For all we know, they came on, claimed something and left WvW.

    If it is so problematic to have it claimed by that guild, and not having buffs is too limiting, Lose the structure, then recap it and claim it.

    Limiting guilds with claim capability makes no sense.

    Claim priority came into effect on this one. Someone either released claim, didn't claim, or chose not to claim, which allowed them to claim.

    That's more a server issue than an Anet issue.

  • @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    good lord i am absolute trash at this video game

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Ubi.4136 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    there is still no option to upgraid claims? maybe that be the solution

    This Quag guild has 1 keep ever claimed our garrison and that it. Longest claim it ever has is 15 hours that is our garri. Here is a breakdown of what this guild had claimed
    Northern Shiverpeaks 12 (46.15%) 2018-08-07 19:22:38
    Fort Aspenwood 9 (34.62%) 2018-06-25 10:51:52
    Dragonbrand 2 (7.69%) 2018-07-08 23:11:15
    Stormbluff Isle 2 (7.69%) 2018-06-25 07:50:54
    Tarnished Coast 1 (3.85%) 2018-02-14 13:44:56
    Really the claiming rights should go to the guild on the BL at the time that has the most Auras and if more than 1 has level VIII go by alphabetical order

    I want to know where you are finding the stats for everything that guild has ever claimed?

    ^^. This.

    They had claim priority evidently. No one else was willing, or able.

    Ask them kindly to claim a camp.

    Limits are there for claiming. Evidently no one else wanted that keep.

    I have a excel doc that shows every guild claiming pick a guild ill post what they have done :)

    No response to the claim priority then?

    Everything I have seen in game shows that when a structure is taken, the top 3 rank guilds that got credit for the event get claim priority. If none of them claim it, it becomes open for anyone to claim it. Also, maybe a high rank guild claimed something else on the map by accident, opening it up for any guild (even one with 0 auras).

    Yes. But the OP hasn't addressed claim priority and the fact that given the guild in questions rank, I highly doubt others didn't have priority first and either chose not to, or released their claim for another structure.

    Which really makes this a server issue, not an Anet issue

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    Guild golems are pretty cheap, do more damage than blue seige, and cost the same supply. But guild ACs and guild ballistas are not worth it.

    Catas and golems, guild is the way to go. Well, for small groups that is.

  • Etheri.5406Etheri.5406 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    Guild golems are pretty cheap, do more damage than blue seige, and cost the same supply. But guild ACs and guild ballistas are not worth it.

    Catas and golems, guild is the way to go. Well, for small groups that is.

    Guildgolems and alpha's are MELEE. That makes them what I call "useful". Omega's are countered by a single reflection. Especially since half the players that man them don't know what reflection is, and kill their own golem. Given that the counterplay to omega's is literally... any class with a reflect or projectile block; I'd say anyone building them for their price and supply is trolling. Nobody sane would do such a thing.

    As a result; building omegas should be a bannable offense.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    Guild golems are pretty cheap, do more damage than blue seige, and cost the same supply. But guild ACs and guild ballistas are not worth it.

    Catas and golems, guild is the way to go. Well, for small groups that is.

    Guildgolems and alpha's are MELEE. That makes them what I call "useful". Omega's are countered by a single reflection. Especially since half the players that man them don't know what reflection is, and kill their own golem. Given that the counterplay to omega's is literally... any class with a reflect or projectile block; I'd say anyone building them for their price and supply is trolling. Nobody sane would do such a thing.

    As a result; building omegas should be a bannable offense.

    Can't argue on omegas at all.

    I just have a preference to guild golems over alphas, but yeah, either works.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    what do devs think?

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • wey daw ming.5784wey daw ming.5784 Member ✭✭
    edited August 8, 2018

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    Guild golems are pretty cheap, do more damage than blue seige, and cost the same supply. But guild ACs and guild ballistas are not worth it.

    Catas and golems, guild is the way to go. Well, for small groups that is.

    Guildgolems and alpha's are MELEE. That makes them what I call "useful". Omega's are countered by a single reflection. Especially since half the players that man them don't know what reflection is, and kill their own golem. Given that the counterplay to omega's is literally... any class with a reflect or projectile block; I'd say anyone building them for their price and supply is trolling. Nobody sane would do such a thing.

    As a result; building omegas should be a bannable offense.

    Can't argue on omegas at all.

    I just have a preference to guild golems over alphas, but yeah, either works.

    And why did you off track this subject to omegas at n camp? If you are not willing to help this discussion please leave it. :) Oh wait Im guessing that you own Quag guild am I right

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    similar incident on the other thread. was surpised to see so many notices at my phone.

    wish there was a reset button to remove guild if x guild not available in map.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    Guild golems are pretty cheap, do more damage than blue seige, and cost the same supply. But guild ACs and guild ballistas are not worth it.

    Catas and golems, guild is the way to go. Well, for small groups that is.

    Guildgolems and alpha's are MELEE. That makes them what I call "useful". Omega's are countered by a single reflection. Especially since half the players that man them don't know what reflection is, and kill their own golem. Given that the counterplay to omega's is literally... any class with a reflect or projectile block; I'd say anyone building them for their price and supply is trolling. Nobody sane would do such a thing.

    As a result; building omegas should be a bannable offense.

    Can't argue on omegas at all.

    I just have a preference to guild golems over alphas, but yeah, either works.

    And why did you off track this subject to omegas at n camp? If you are not willing to help this discussion please leave it. :) Oh wait Im guessing that you own Quag guild am I right

    Yes you totally got me. I definitely own this guild that I've never heard of.

    Point being, anyone who has the right to claim something can claim it and that's just something you're going to have to deal with. My guild claims towers even though the only thing we have is +5 supply, because it helps us, as roamers. I'm sure not having boosted stats doesn't hinder your virtuous and honorable PPT endeavors too much, friendo.

    good lord i am absolute trash at this video game

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Not to mention that to get into the claim order you need to have x amount of guild members capturing something. So basically this means that guild either happened upon a completely unclaimed objective for whatever reason or they actually had enough people there to make that claim. That or the other guilds in the queue simply didn't do it. So what will it be, my dude?

    Smugly chuckling forever.
    My sentence doesn't make sense? Well, I probably forgot to write half of it before posting.

  • @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    Guild golems are pretty cheap, do more damage than blue seige, and cost the same supply. But guild ACs and guild ballistas are not worth it.

    Catas and golems, guild is the way to go. Well, for small groups that is.

    Guildgolems and alpha's are MELEE. That makes them what I call "useful". Omega's are countered by a single reflection. Especially since half the players that man them don't know what reflection is, and kill their own golem. Given that the counterplay to omega's is literally... any class with a reflect or projectile block; I'd say anyone building them for their price and supply is trolling. Nobody sane would do such a thing.

    As a result; building omegas should be a bannable offense.

    Can't argue on omegas at all.

    I just have a preference to guild golems over alphas, but yeah, either works.

    And why did you off track this subject to omegas at n camp? If you are not willing to help this discussion please leave it. :) Oh wait Im guessing that you own Quag guild am I right

    Yes you totally got me. I definitely own this guild that I've never heard of.

    Point being, anyone who has the right to claim something can claim it and that's just something you're going to have to deal with. My guild claims towers even though the only thing we have is +5 supply, because it helps us, as roamers. I'm sure not having boosted stats doesn't hinder your virtuous and honorable PPT endeavors too much, friendo.

    Thanks for getting back on the subject :)

  • wey daw ming.5784wey daw ming.5784 Member ✭✭
    edited August 8, 2018

    @Blocki.4931 said:
    Not to mention that to get into the claim order you need to have x amount of guild members capturing something. So basically this means that guild either happened upon a completely unclaimed objective for whatever reason or they actually had enough people there to make that claim. That or the other guilds in the queue simply didn't do it. So what will it be, my dude?

    I know why it happened the whole point here is that anet has created the ability to level a guild, keep claim and have zero buffs. Shouldnt be this way and I know lots of things are messed up but this just allows more trolling and every server has plenty of that right now

  • Handin.4032Handin.4032 Member ✭✭

    I've noticed that when fighting certain servers, the amount of troll behavior sky rockets. On my server, we tend to get the situation where consistently a troll account comes on, pulls all of our tacts right before an enemy zerg attacks the keeps, or does them on a cycle to keep them perma-down (grabbing banners and dropping them, pulling supply drops and then building golems, etc). Among other troll behavior... ultimately, absolutely nothing can be done without anet starting to give WvW some TLC and actual active monitoring.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @ventusthunder.5067 said:

    @Etheri.5406 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @wey daw ming.5784 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    haha. omg, reminds me to upgrade our slayers guild to claim keeps pretty soon.

    on that note hope its just a newbi and not a troll. although i do remember we killed some quaggan from the opposing servers hope this is not some kind of effect.

    Sorry but you do not build a guild up to level 22 just to claim a keep with no auras unless you are a troll. The cost to do this far exceeds just a noob guy making a claim.. This is someone that built this up for this purpose only. You must have war room level 2 and the cost is high to get this done. Here is what it takes just for level 2 War Room :) and Im not even talking about the ability to mine 5k ore for the mine. Just a quick guess we looking at about minimum 1500 gold just for a guild level 22 built only to claim a keep
    30  Badge of Tribute.
    1000   Elder Wood Plank
    1000   Mithril Ingot
    200   Glob of Ectoplasm
    10   Dragonite Ingot
    10   Spiritwood Plank

    That's nothing...

    Exactly this.

    Badges of tribute are relatively cheap. 1k elder wood :trollface: 1k mithril :trollface: Dragonite ingots? Yeah I got hundreds.

    The only expensive parts are 200 ectos (which are spiking atm, and it's still like what 40g? Once prices drop again maybe 25g?) and... 10 spiritwood planks so another ~45g? So a generous estimate would be what... 100g? 150g? That's not very expensive for me solo. Imagine a guild that's just trying to play and upgrade their guildhall without really knowing what they're doing. Then imagine them playing WvW without knowing what they're doing. Sounds like... literally every other player I encounter in WvW.

    Having bad tactics like supply sabotage or gate turrets on upgraded structures feelsbadman. But if we're going to claim bad players are "trolling" then I have a pretty long list. Starting with everyone who uses supply to build omega golems. Nobody who knows how the game works builds omegas in 2K18. Building them should be a bannable offense.

    You're EU right? Idk if people in EU do this but NSP, the home server of OP, actively builds omega golems to guard their camps on home BL. Usually they've got someone camping in an omega which lasts long enough for them to call the map blob. It's quite hilarious. OP is a diamond legend and I still see him camping a t3 north camp sitting in an omega.

    We do this with alpha's cause we're cheap. Not like you're lacking supply in camps which you're actively defending. Also rarely do this because most mu's can be won by bullying the enemy PPT players rather than enabling our own. That said, upgrading structures to T3 so they can't send 3 guys to backcap every 5 minutes helps, so we do it where needed.

    Omegas SHOULD be cheaper than alpha's becauase alphas are ACTUALLY BETTER FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES... But as I said, players are clueless.
    No reason to use omegas that are 8x more expensive than alphas. Again, NO reason to use omegas at all.

    Building omegas = trolling.

    Yup. NA's got some people who are willing to lay down crazy amounts of gold for guild siege and golems, but there's very little coordination leading to wasting that siege. Often times they'll have an omega golem defending the t3 camp... but no one comes to blob down the roamers who were taking it, and the poor sap who wasted his time in the golem ends up getting destroyed.

    Guild golems are pretty cheap, do more damage than blue seige, and cost the same supply. But guild ACs and guild ballistas are not worth it.

    Catas and golems, guild is the way to go. Well, for small groups that is.

    Guildgolems and alpha's are MELEE. That makes them what I call "useful". Omega's are countered by a single reflection. Especially since half the players that man them don't know what reflection is, and kill their own golem. Given that the counterplay to omega's is literally... any class with a reflect or projectile block; I'd say anyone building them for their price and supply is trolling. Nobody sane would do such a thing.

    As a result; building omegas should be a bannable offense.

    Can't argue on omegas at all.

    I just have a preference to guild golems over alphas, but yeah, either works.

    And why did you off track this subject to omegas at n camp? If you are not willing to help this discussion please leave it. :) Oh wait Im guessing that you own Quag guild am I right

    And yet you failed to include the person I was responding to.

    As to the on track comments, you have yet to address why your server would leave a keep unclaimed.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2018

    i doubt any in nsp or sf would leave as such. my guess is, it was lost, not many where on, some quag guild capped and claimed. and the guild that claimed was quagan etc.

    in nsp, atleast for me, we prioritize gari and eb keep. since we cant really hold everything.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    i doubt any in nsp or sf would leave as such. my guess is, it was lost, not many where on, some quag guild capped and claimed. and the guild that claimed was quagan etc.

    in nsp, atleast for me, we prioritize gari and eb keep. since we cant really hold everything.

    I would agree.

    And if they did the work, they should be able to claim.

  • Handin.4032Handin.4032 Member ✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    i doubt any in nsp or sf would leave as such. my guess is, it was lost, not many where on, some quag guild capped and claimed. and the guild that claimed was quagan etc.

    in nsp, atleast for me, we prioritize gari and eb keep. since we cant really hold everything.

    I would agree.

    And if they did the work, they should be able to claim.

    While I don't really disagree on that, claiming a keep without being able to put any buffs on it messes up your own server, unless there are really no other guilds online that have buffs that can claim. (To me, it's similar to people who claim objectives but then don't put tacts on themselves because "well anyone can do it anyways..."). Ultimately, a keep claimed by a guild without any buffs is just a tact-factory - so hopefully they at least step up in that regard!

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It also has not seemed to impact your ability to hold Garry, as you still have it 25 hours later despite no buffs according to gw2 stats or what was the old mos millennium site.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Handin.4032 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    i doubt any in nsp or sf would leave as such. my guess is, it was lost, not many where on, some quag guild capped and claimed. and the guild that claimed was quagan etc.

    in nsp, atleast for me, we prioritize gari and eb keep. since we cant really hold everything.

    I would agree.

    And if they did the work, they should be able to claim.

    While I don't really disagree on that, claiming a keep without being able to put any buffs on it messes up your own server, unless there are really no other guilds online that have buffs that can claim. (To me, it's similar to people who claim objectives but then don't put tacts on themselves because "well anyone can do it anyways..."). Ultimately, a keep claimed by a guild without any buffs is just a tact-factory - so hopefully they at least step up in that regard!

    Yes. I agree that a guild shouldn't do this.

    However, that is a server problem, not an Anet problem.

    Too many other things to focus their time on.

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