bara yaoi.3824 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 how does necro staff compare to its fellow light armor classes, Condi Mirage w/ Staff and Power Weaver w/ Staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceit.7619 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 In PvP/Wvw Staff is a decent area denial/tagging weapon. In PvE it is hot garbage. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigfodr.9576 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I am not sure what you mean tbh. if you mean how they compare in use. thenWeaver (ele): Staff is a high damage (power) weapon used in PvE with very little mobility. In PvP it is more or less useless and in WvW it is a backline AOE weapon with skills on fairly long cd.Mirage (mesmer): Staff in PvE is useless. In PvE it is a high mobility, high damage weapon. And for WvW it is a high mobility, good evasive backup weapon.Necro: In PvE staff is the farm weapon for tagging but besides that useless. In PvP and WvW it is a low dame but high area denial/control weapon that generate good life force.Not sure if this is what you mean, but.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dace.8173 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I hate Necro staff and desperately wish Necromancer had some kind of better long range weapon as I find Necro staff to be woefully disappointing. Though I do find it unfair to compare Necro staff to Elite professions use of staff. When you consider that the Weaver can use two different elements with their staff there is no way Core Necro staff will compete. Hands down mixing and matching elements like that will let Weaver staff perform way more effectively. That's not to say that core Ele staff is more comparable, because it's not it still blows Necro staff out of the water, just that comparing core Necro to Weaver anything is like comparing a flintlock pistol to a P90. But that's my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily.1935 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Necromancer staff is dated but still functional in wvw and pvp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uden Reavstone.3426 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 What are you all talking about? Necro staff is not useless in PvE! It's awesome for condi builds. Terror goes hand in hand with it too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily.1935 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 @Uden Reavstone.3426 said:What are you all talking about? Necro staff is not useless in PvE! It's awesome for condi builds. Terror goes hand in hand with it too.For open world it's fine. For raids and fractals it lacks focus when consistent damage is required or potent support. The staff lacks both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyse.8179 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Staff is great for a Chill Of Death condi build. Scepter is better for sustained DPS, but you can open with staff for a condi burst and it's also good for emergency LF generation, condi cleanse or cc. Not the primary weapon but still an important part of the build. If you have good timing with your shroud bombs, you can get the condi burst and CC without having to wait 10s to swap by using shroud during the CD time.In other builds it's dreadfully weak as others have said, and is only good for skill 4 and 5 and for LF generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dceptaconroy.7928 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Its orright for certaint builds. Decent for tagging stuff, and utterly useless as a power reaper. Someone will say otherwise to my last point but they're being silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etheri.5406 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Staff is a utility weapon. It gives the kind of utility nobody needs in PvE, but everyone wants in PvP / WvW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahmia.2193 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 @Lily.1935 said:@Uden Reavstone.3426 said:What are you all talking about? Necro staff is not useless in PvE! It's awesome for condi builds. Terror goes hand in hand with it too.For open world it's fine. For raids and fractals it lacks focus when consistent damage is required or potent support. The staff lacks both.Raids and fractals have horribly narrow requirements though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeftheWicked.3076 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Necro staff should be a warrior weapon. ..because after 4s tops you wanna swap it out a.s.a.p. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anchoku.8142 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 @bara yaoi.3824 said:how does necro staff compare to its fellow light armor classes, Condi Mirage w/ Staff and Power Weaver w/ Staff? Staff does not bring much to either Reaper or Scourge. It is an AoE utility weapon (not a primary dps weapon) that still has a place in WvW and PvP. In PvE, staff is used only in casual trash mob tagging.Comparing Necro's staff to Ele's and Mesmer's is unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily.1935 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 @Lahmia.2193 said:@Lily.1935 said:@Uden Reavstone.3426 said:What are you all talking about? Necro staff is not useless in PvE! It's awesome for condi builds. Terror goes hand in hand with it too.For open world it's fine. For raids and fractals it lacks focus when consistent damage is required or potent support. The staff lacks both.Raids and fractals have horribly narrow requirements though.Raids being narrow I agree with. But fractals gives a bit more breathing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silmariena.6205 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Comparing Necro's staff to Ele's and Mesmer's is unfair.seriously? what else should we compare? what should we aim for? what to take an example of? what is the balance supposed to be based on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 It's more of a condi / utility weapon mainly used in WvW.staff 1 = life forcestaff 2 = bleedstaff 3 = chill/poison (with reaper it does damage from chill via Deathly chill)staff 4 = condi transferstaff 5 = fear (with Terrifying descent trait it does damage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorial.6987 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Staff has a weird niche in casual raiding in that mark of blood gives basically permanent aoe regen. Full magi/plaguedoctor and you've got a half way decent off healer. Also gives you some breakbar spike with the chill and fear.Support necro is a lot of fun. If druids weren't so good at their job it would likely see pretty frequent usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerah.8235 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I don't really like staff, generally speaking. That said, it is good to great (if traited) utility for all PvP modes. I do, however, LOVE staff #5, I just haven't found a great way to use it yet. I am testing out staff 5-->shroud-->RS3 x2 --> RS4 combo'd with Dread/Shatter Defenses (dumps 20 vuln on 5 targets!! + CC) . Also am testing whether RS5 (traited) might be a good trap mark to cast on a point in sPvP/WvW to catch certain thief and mes combos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felincyriac.5981 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 @Nerah.8235 said:I don't really like staff, generally speaking. That said, it is good to great (if traited) utility for all PvP modes. I do, however, LOVE staff #5, I just haven't found a great way to use it yet. I am testing out staff 5-->shroud-->RS3 x2 --> RS4 combo'd with Dread/Shatter Defenses (dumps 20 vuln on 5 targets!! + CC) . Also am testing whether RS5 (traited) might be a good trap mark to cast on a point in sPvP/WvW to catch certain thief and mes combos. just go full yolo and pick lich form for that 2s fear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute.5408 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 How is it for panic LF recovery in PVE? Not like condi Scourge runs a second weapon set or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyse.8179 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Depends on how you define panic. It gives steady moderate LF gain and doesn't need a cooldown. Good to offset a low LF weapon like Sceptre, but if you need a lot of LF like RIGHT NOW then other skills like Axe 2, Spectral armor, or Warhorn 5 build it up faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexan.5930 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Necro staff could use some love.I've always felt that the marks need an "on demand" when cast effect. Simple is that only some of the effects happen on cast and none of the damage. Mark of blood applies regen on allies in the area when cast, damage and bleeds applied when mark is triggered.Chibllians creates the poison field when cast, damage and chill when the mark is triggered. Putrid mark does the blast finisher when cast (mark explodes into being). Damage and Condi transfer happens on trigger.Reapers mark remains unchanged.This would help staff get a little more utility while not changing any of the functionality, damage or conditions.Also death magic needs a lot of loveMake minions great ...... Cuz they never were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchyfx.5768 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 if staff gets reworked i think necro will drop in WvW . Better keep it like this because WvW is only mode where we can profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubLimation.3014 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) I'm a couple days late xD But I annihilate in PvP with my staff necro, I am almost always top player in all categories and rarely have a death to my name. The amount of utility you have if built right is insane, and turning fights with shroud heal is amazing, a couple teammates go down, I pop #4 they get teleported to my feat and aoe healed. most 1v1 fights I can come out with full hp and full life force. But I completely roll over other staff necros so not sure what kinda build yall are running. Like seriously yall might need to rethink some of those "meta" builds, I am yet to be remotely challenged by another necro regardless of weapon type. Carapice + massive regen and slows and fears its just too kitten good, not to mention condition transferring all my teammates conditions to enemies lol. Arena PvP btw and I'm really good at dodging and lining up my pierce so idk Last game I played was double dps of my friends dps ranger, and I'm a more all around build. I like how anet says I "joined recently" I literally preordered gw2 before launch xD But I usuallly post on reddit but recently realized these forums are much better. Edited June 14, 2022 by SubLimation.3014 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxez.7361 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 There are PvP Meta builds? Never played PvP before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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