Anput.4620 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I use it right in peoples faces to keep stacking stealth and they seem oblivious but today i got told they can see DP5 as a field even when i use it from stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scar.1793 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Allies and enemies should be able to see it, even from stealth I believe since it’s an offensive/defensive field skill.But I admit I never saw it myself or I was not paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 The smoke field? All enemy's see is a red circle and the sound of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anput.4620 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 I am talking about black powder, i never got an aoe dropped on me while stacking stealth on black powder right infront of peoples faces.I always assumed they couldn't see it because i often do it right in front of multiple enemies too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Everyone can see it but its pointless to chase after the thief so most dont care. Reveal is still very rare.The best thieves only spend their initiative on black powder and nothing else while dodging to stealth and running at +50% speed."Balance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Some people stand in it to prevent further stealth stacking topkek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bq pd.2148 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 actually many thieves leap their fields multiple times, i allways step into them.the sound is very loud too, so if a thief uses this field shortly before trying to ambush someone playing with sound, they will be prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinkTinkPOOF.9201 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Lots of people still don't know how it works, or that when they see it, they are stacking stealth. Because many people only play one class. Myself I try and put something on the ground, or will place a traps edge right on it, so they take dmg trying to stack, if trap is on CD, I will stand in it, or try and pop shield 5 to knock them back from getting more stealth stacks off. Last option is standing in the field, as they are leaping through it, so if they tag you trying to stack more, they will be revealed, most are smart enough to not try, so at the least it stops them from getting longer stacks.But yes, it is 100% visible. It however is not that big or noticeable when talking about other marks on the ground, and it's very easy to LOS it in even small holes or hills on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bq pd.2148 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 @TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:Lots of people still don't know how it works, or that when they see it, they are stacking stealth. Because many people only play one class. Myself I try and put something on the ground, or will place a traps edge right on it, so they take dmg trying to stack, if trap is on CD, I will stand in it, or try and pop shield 5 to knock them back from getting more stealth stacks off. Last option is standing in the field, as they are leaping through it, so if they tag you trying to stack more, they will be revealed, most are smart enough to not try, so at the least it stops them from getting longer stacks.But yes, it is 100% visible. It however is not that big or noticeable when talking about other marks on the ground, and it's very easy to LOS it in even small holes or hills on the ground.while they are smart enough not to keep stacking, heartseeker is still an animation lock wich forces them to swap weapon if they want to cancel it and the animation is pretty long. so stepping in the right moment inside might cause them to either swap off d/p or get revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vornollo.5182 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just throwing it out there for some additional clarity.Yes, they can see the Black Powder's red AoE circle, they can also hear the sound of it (and it's damn loud actually).Enemies can also see you casting Shadow Shot (D/P #3) and some other skills like it, even when they're cast from Stealth.Enemies can also see the Mini of a player in stealth. Make sure you hide it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuhDah.9812 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 For what stealth is and what a stealthy class shoul feel like, the most common ways of thief stealthing make so much noise there is no way you'd miss the sneaky bastard unless you're in a fight with something else and the sounds overlap, or if they're 2000+ unit points away. But there is a balance reason for it being obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 @TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:Lots of people still don't know how it works, or that when they see it, they are stacking stealth. Because many people only play one class. Myself I try and put something on the ground, or will place a traps edge right on it, so they take dmg trying to stack, if trap is on CD, I will stand in it, or try and pop shield 5 to knock them back from getting more stealth stacks off. Last option is standing in the field, as they are leaping through it, so if they tag you trying to stack more, they will be revealed, most are smart enough to not try, so at the least it stops them from getting longer stacks.But yes, it is 100% visible. It however is not that big or noticeable when talking about other marks on the ground, and it's very easy to LOS it in even small holes or hills on the ground.And thieves who know how it works dont stack stealth because they dont need to heartseek through it. Everything you said is useless against good thieves. They use bounding dodger and is gone from the circle in an instant (they actually enter stealth at around twice the distance of the smoke field radius so they just run straight past it while dodging). Bonus points for using the rune that gives superspeed on every dodge with no icd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archmagus.7249 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Be careful if an enemy sees the red smoke and they step in it, when you leap through it for stealth the game might see them as a target and leap and attack them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuhDah.9812 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 @Dawdler.8521 said:@"TinkTinkPOOF.9201" said:Lots of people still don't know how it works, or that when they see it, they are stacking stealth. Because many people only play one class. Myself I try and put something on the ground, or will place a traps edge right on it, so they take dmg trying to stack, if trap is on CD, I will stand in it, or try and pop shield 5 to knock them back from getting more stealth stacks off. Last option is standing in the field, as they are leaping through it, so if they tag you trying to stack more, they will be revealed, most are smart enough to not try, so at the least it stops them from getting longer stacks.But yes, it is 100% visible. It however is not that big or noticeable when talking about other marks on the ground, and it's very easy to LOS it in even small holes or hills on the ground.And thieves who know how it works dont stack stealth because they dont need to heartseek through it. Everything you said is useless against good thieves. They use bounding dodger and is gone from the circle in an instant (they actually enter stealth at around twice the distance of the smoke field radius so they just run straight past it while dodging). Bonus points for using the rune that gives superspeed on every dodge with no icd.yeah, like every "good thief" plays BD, or DrD on that note... BD isn't even meta and I rarely someone using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I drop a CoR in those blinding powder rings if I see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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