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Redeeming IG-6417??

There are, in my opinion, a few serious issues with this Collection achievement (Redeeming IG-6417). In order to get the ascended back piece, you have to get a series of recordings. There are multiple issues with this:
1. You have to do the Domain of Vabbi meta - been on for hours over the past several days, and the maps never seems to do it. Have checked Looking for Group as well. No luck
2. You have to complete the Sandswept Isle meta so that you can do the fishing event. That, too, seems to never be done.
3. The one I am inexplicably not been able to do is the event "Stop the Zaishen from desecrating the Temple of Kormir" event in the Crystal Oasis. This event NEVER seems to spawn. Ever. There doesn't appear to be a trigger for it. It either happens or it doesn't.

Specifically, with #3 - does anyone have any ideas?

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  • Serpent's Ire (Vabbi Meta) is done by OC once a week on EU servers and they barely (if ever) fail it.

    Sandswept Isles does not require more than ten players so if you have a tag, light that lamp up and set up a LFG - people will join eventually from my experience.

    Can't say anything about the temple of Kormir event, never seen that either.

    Oh did I hurt your precious feelings? My deepest apologies.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Idk about the vabbi one but the sandswept isles one does happen.

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2018

    @misterman.1530 said:
    There are, in my opinion, a few serious issues with this Collection achievement (Redeeming IG-6417). In order to get the ascended back piece, you have to get a series of recordings. There are multiple issues with this:
    1. You have to do the Domain of Vabbi meta - been on for hours over the past several days, and the maps never seems to do it. Have checked Looking for Group as well. No luck
    2. You have to complete the Sandswept Isle meta so that you can do the fishing event. That, too, seems to never be done.
    3. The one I am inexplicably not been able to do is the event "Stop the Zaishen from desecrating the Temple of Kormir" event in the Crystal Oasis. This event NEVER seems to spawn. Ever. There doesn't appear to be a trigger for it. It either happens or it doesn't.

    Specifically, with #3 - does anyone have any ideas?

    Have done that event like 4 times in the last few days when trying to kil a specific bounty boss. Have seen it spawn quite often when i were near that waypoint before as well.

    I do fully agree on Serpent's Ire meta. Outside of the gw2community run it is generally not being done, because it usually cannot be organized by random pug squads.

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • misterman.1530misterman.1530 Member ✭✭✭

    @Astralporing.1957 said:

    @misterman.1530 said:
    There are, in my opinion, a few serious issues with this Collection achievement (Redeeming IG-6417). In order to get the ascended back piece, you have to get a series of recordings. There are multiple issues with this:
    1. You have to do the Domain of Vabbi meta - been on for hours over the past several days, and the maps never seems to do it. Have checked Looking for Group as well. No luck
    2. You have to complete the Sandswept Isle meta so that you can do the fishing event. That, too, seems to never be done.
    3. The one I am inexplicably not been able to do is the event "Stop the Zaishen from desecrating the Temple of Kormir" event in the Crystal Oasis. This event NEVER seems to spawn. Ever. There doesn't appear to be a trigger for it. It either happens or it doesn't.

    Specifically, with #3 - does anyone have any ideas?

    Have done that event like 4 times in the last few days when trying to kil a specific bounty boss. Have seen it spawn quite often when i were near that waypoint before as well.

    I do fully agree on Serpent's Ire meta. Outside of the gw2community run it is generally not being done, because it usually cannot be organized by random pug squads.

    Yeah, the Serpent's isle one is nuts. And when you tie collections to a meta on a deserted map, that's a problem. Bad design.

    Though, the Zaishen event spawned a couple of times for me, then bugged out. Finally, one spawned just now and I got the recording. Strange. No pattern to when it starts. No seeming trigger. Very sloppy. Seems random.

  • Well Serpent's Ire has the worst rewards from any PoF meta measured by the time and organization needed to complete it. Plus, even if you do succeed, it's always a huge pain in the behind just because it has to be located inside the cancerstorm area.

    Oh did I hurt your precious feelings? My deepest apologies.

  • Reverielle.3972Reverielle.3972 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2018

    There was someone today standing around for a very long time at the Temple, not doing events there and waiting for the Zaishen to show up. And they never would have; you need to do events around there to trigger it. There are four/five events linked to the Temple of Kormir and at least two sets of events I know are in a chain, so it's not too much of a stretch to think the defending the temple event is also in one. From my understanding, it's the event where refugees travel to the southern way station that is the trigger for the Zaishen attack, just as the event where you aid the priest from the northern way station is the trigger for the forged attack on the Village of Kweli.

    Hope that helps.

  • misterman.1530misterman.1530 Member ✭✭✭

    @Reverielle.3972 said:
    There was someone today standing around for a very long time at the Temple, not doing events there and waiting for the Zaishen to show up. And they never would have; you need to do events around there to trigger it. There are four/five events linked to the Temple of Kormir and at least two sets of events I know are in a chain, so it's not too much of a stretch to think the defending the temple event is also in one. From my understanding, it's the event where refugees travel to the southern way station that is the trigger for the Zaishen attack, just as the event where you aid the priest from the northern way station is the trigger for the forged attack on the Village of Kweli.

    Hope that helps.

    That was probably me. Unfortunately, the wiki does not mention any pre-events at all. I think I will edit that page to show you need to do some (all?) of the other events around it.

  • misterman.1530misterman.1530 Member ✭✭✭

    @Edgy McEdgelord.4790 said:
    Well Serpent's Ire has the worst rewards from any PoF meta measured by the time and organization needed to complete it. Plus, even if you do succeed, it's always a huge pain in the behind just because it has to be located inside the cancerstorm area.

    Yeah. That's my issue. Right now, in LFG, there are a bunch of groups for the HoT maps. One (for Seneb) on the PoF maps. People have complained before that the PoF maps are virtually dead. When you tie ascended item collections to dead-ish maps, you have a problem. Anet needs to do something: increase meta rewards, etc. Or, and this would be my personal fav - change what is required to get the recordings - no metas required.

  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The Zaishen event might be part of a chain but the earlier ones are probably not getting done. I guess there isn't enough interest in that part of the game for the research to happen.

    @Reverielle.3972 said:
    There was someone today standing around for a very long time at the Temple, not doing events there and waiting for the Zaishen to show up. And they never would have; you need to do events around there to trigger it. There are four/five events linked to the Temple of Kormir and at least two sets of events I know are in a chain, so it's not too much of a stretch to think the defending the temple event is also in one. From my understanding, it's the event where refugees travel to the southern way station that is the trigger for the Zaishen attack, just as the event where you aid the priest from the northern way station is the trigger for the forged attack on the Village of Kweli.

    Hope that helps.

    This would also explain why it feels like the event used to pop up more often. Back around launch there would naturally have been more random people around doing those. Especially the long unrewarding escort events.

  • As someone who has completed the golem backpiece recently I have to say:

    • Serpent's Ire is best done with one of the big PvE teams like GW2 community
    • Sandwswept isles meta is fairly easy and u can attract players from your map quickly
    • Temple of kormir has 2 events - defend the village and stop the zaishen that usually come one after the other
  • Reverielle.3972Reverielle.3972 Member ✭✭✭

    @misterman.1530 said:

    @Reverielle.3972 said:
    There was someone today standing around for a very long time at the Temple, not doing events there and waiting for the Zaishen to show up. And they never would have; you need to do events around there to trigger it. There are four/five events linked to the Temple of Kormir and at least two sets of events I know are in a chain, so it's not too much of a stretch to think the defending the temple event is also in one. From my understanding, it's the event where refugees travel to the southern way station that is the trigger for the Zaishen attack, just as the event where you aid the priest from the northern way station is the trigger for the forged attack on the Village of Kweli.

    Hope that helps.

    That was probably me. Unfortunately, the wiki does not mention any pre-events at all. I think I will edit that page to show you need to do some (all?) of the other events around it.

    I don't think it does no, but almost every event in the game is linked in some way to another event, either before or after it. In Central Tyria most events that are linked are fairly obvious; in so much as they're telling a story about the local goings on or the like. The events around the Temple of Kormir do similarly, though they're a bit less obvious.

    In truth now I think about it a little more, perhaps there was a missed opportunity here for development: They could have had the Temple of Kormir have it's own meta (i.e. a heading and current event/meta status on our UI like all meta have), this would better give an idea of just what's going on around the temple, especially providing light on those events at the Southern and Northern Way Station that are not as obvious. It also could include the final event/s at the Crucible of Consecration; perhaps the most difficult event to complete in Crystal Oasis, but again one that is completed rarely due to few knowing about it.

    Anyways, I've drifted off topic. I hope those that are looking for this event are now better able to find/complete it.

  • It is possible to do a pug run of Serpent's Ire. I used to host pug runs all the time. It just takes a lot of effort to go through organizing and explaining everything to players who really don't want to cooperate.

    The giraffe is an animal which, for sociopolitical arguments, I like to pretend does not exist.

  • Did it a month ago. Had to tag up twice for Serpents Ire. I think its fine when you can prep for it early even tho that meta should be nerfed and/or have a bigger reward .

  • I FINALLY made Serpent Ire after a casual 6 month of trying... once i got to Ig-6417 to turn ALL the record.. the Serpent Ire one was gone from my inventory .. IM SO PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • starlinvf.1358starlinvf.1358 Member ✭✭✭✭

    are you sure you had a free recording device open when you did it? cuz if you put them in shared inventory, they can get eatten up by the "res allies" recording on different characters.

  • Yeah i had one i've been carying it for 2 months or so. I even saw Vanquish Branded Recording in my inventory once i completed the event. I openned a ticket yesterday, i hope they will be able to do something because i seriously dont feel like trying to find another sucessfull group.

  • Oh my god, i know what happen... since i rezzed people during the event they give me an additionnal Rez ally one.... HOLY kitten WHAT A FRIGGING BUG!!!!!!

  • Ardid.7203Ardid.7203 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 8, 2018

    @Chokolata.1870 said:
    As someone who has completed the golem backpiece recently I have to say:

    • Serpent's Ire is best done with one of the big PvE teams like GW2 community
    • Sandwswept isles meta is fairly easy and u can attract players from your map quickly
    • Temple of kormir has 2 events - defend the village and stop the zaishen that usually come one after the other

    In my experience, to trigger the Temple of Kormir event you need to:

    In the wiki the events doesn't appear linked, but in my own investigation of this, I got the attack to happen after a few minutes every time I properly Defend Kweli. Retaking Kweli never spawned the Zaishen event. And just waiting never started anything.

    Be careful: the transport event is fairly easy, but the defense of the village can scale quite a bit just because people pass through (It failed for me many times). Its better to make a call on the map chat. Then you'll have to be patient for the Zaishen one, because it doesn't spawns in short notice like the Kweli one.

  • HazyDaisy.4107HazyDaisy.4107 Member ✭✭✭

    If all else fails a trick I found helpful with an old side story achievement, wait until the map is apart of daily event completer. I'm not sure if the LS maps ever make the cut, but core, HOT and POF maps are in the rotation. Vabbi was on there last week I believe.

    [HaHa] Hazardous Hallucination - Sorrows Furnace

  • @Shatterer.4589 said:
    Oh my god, i know what happen... since i rezzed people during the event they give me an additionnal Rez ally one.... HOLY kitten WHAT A FRIGGING BUG!!!!!!

    That exact same thing happened to me just last night.

    This should NOT be intended behavior. You CANNOT turn in the Medical Aid Recording before you turn in the Vanquish Branded Recording. I know this for certain because I tried. I did all the other events, got all the other recordings, before I was able to find a successful Serpent's Ire. I turned in what the golem would accept, which was only about 8 of them, and those 8 did not include Medical Aid. I've been running around with 12 recordings in my bags that I can't turn in.

    So during the boss fight part of Serpent's Ire, I revived a downed player and got a duplicate Medical Aid Recording, which ate the last recording device in my inventory. When the event finished, I could not receive a Vanquish Branded Recording because the game ate my last recording device to give me a duplicate Medical Aid Recording. In other words, I helped another player and got kittened.

    There is no indication anywhere that you can receive duplicate recordings. You don't find out until it happens.

    There is no indication anywhere that you will need more than 21 recording devices.

    This means players have to remember NEVER EVER REPEAT AN EVENT IN REDEEMING IG-6417 BEFORE COMPLETION UNLESS YOU'VE GOT EXTRA RECORDING DEVICES. And for kitten sure do not help other players while fighting the bosses in Serpent's Ire if you only have one device left.

    That is, frankly, stupid.

    I did put in a customer service ticket begging that the duplicate Medical Aid Recording be replaced with the Vanquish Branded Recording THAT I EARNED AND DIDN'T RECEIVE. So we'll see.

  • Update: Anet got back to me. I'd laugh if I weren't ready to cry.

    After "thoroughly researching" the matter, they refuse to help me because the way to get the recording is to have a recording device in my inventory when I defeat Ysshi Hessani and Pek Rakt Grag.

    THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING, FOR PETE'S SAKE!!! I had a recording device in my inventory when the event began. A GAME BUG ATE IT so that now I have two Medical Aid Recordings.

    Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. I EARNED that Vanquish Branded Recording. I hear people in the game laugh all the time about petitioning to get gem refunds because something they bought went on sale the next day, and Anet accommodates them on that. But I can't get an item I EARNED?

    I realize that nothing I do or say will change Anet's mind. But once more, they have proven that their customer service stinks.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vethaera.6319 said:
    Update: Anet got back to me. I'd laugh if I weren't ready to cry.

    After "thoroughly researching" the matter, they refuse to help me because the way to get the recording is to have a recording device in my inventory when I defeat Ysshi Hessani and Pek Rakt Grag.

    THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING, FOR PETE'S SAKE!!! I had a recording device in my inventory when the event began. A GAME BUG ATE IT so that now I have two Medical Aid Recordings.

    Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. I EARNED that Vanquish Branded Recording. I hear people in the game laugh all the time about petitioning to get gem refunds because something they bought went on sale the next day, and Anet accommodates them on that. But I can't get an item I EARNED?

    I realize that nothing I do or say will change Anet's mind. But once more, they have proven that their customer service stinks.

    Well since the game ate your recording before the event end you dident earn said recording so they cant give it to you mate.

  • Vethaera.6319Vethaera.6319 Member ✭✭
    edited October 12, 2018

    edit: sorry about the double post, not sure how that happened. can't delete it, can only edit it.

    After "thoroughly researching" the matter, they refuse to help me because the way to get the recording is to have a recording device in my inventory when I defeat Ysshi Hessani and Pek Rakt Grag.

    THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING, FOR PETE'S SAKE!!! I had a recording device in my inventory when the event began. A GAME BUG ATE IT so that now I have two Medical Aid Recordings.

    Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. I EARNED that Vanquish Branded Recording. I hear people in the game laugh all the time about petitioning to get gem refunds because something they bought went on sale the next day, and Anet accommodates them on that. But I can't get an item I EARNED?

    I realize that nothing I do or say will change Anet's mind. But this stinks. I earned that recording. I EARNED IT.

  • Vethaera.6319Vethaera.6319 Member ✭✭
    edited October 12, 2018

    @Linken.6345 said:

    Well since the game ate your recording before the event end you dident earn said recording so they cant give it to you mate.

    No, it ate my recording DURING the event.

    "So during the boss fight part of Serpent's Ire, I revived a downed player and got a duplicate Medical Aid Recording, which ate the last recording device in my inventory. When the event finished, I could not receive a Vanquish Branded Recording because the game ate my last recording device to give me a duplicate Medical Aid Recording."

    Reading comprehension is your friend.

  • Holy cow. Well. I just got another email from ArenaNet.

    I protested that first decision, and a different GM looked at it. Maybe they kicked it up the line to someone who actually comprehends what they read, I don't know, but THAT one noted that I had, on that same occasion, earned the guardian statue that comes from that event that updates the Exaltation of the Guardians collection -- and informed me that I would receive the Vanquish Branded Recording I had earned.

    I logged in, and there it was, in my in-game mail.

    So you could knock me over with a feather. They actually did enough research to realize that I was telling the truth about earning that recording, and made good on it.

    Wow.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2018

    Perhaps Gaile, or someone else, could pass this case on to the customer service team as a learning opportunity and see if any improvements to the current procedures could be made in order to be more consistent. Players shouldn’t have to keep trying to eventually get a GM to fix an issue that should be fixable.

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