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  • thrag.9740thrag.9740 Member ✭✭✭

    If there are new rewards planned for LD, I'm grateful that Anet is letting us convert LI to LD. Considering Anet doesn't keep track of every raid kill we have, there is no way to have an exchange accurately reflect how many w5 kills any of us have. Anet could have easily swapped the rewards and not let any exchange take place. Its easy to point out everything wrong in the imperfect solution of a difficult problem, its much more difficult to find a better solution.

  • Talindra.4958Talindra.4958 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If number of LD is very important to you, then delay w5 clear until after update.

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  • @thrag.9740 said:
    If there are new rewards planned for LD, I'm grateful that Anet is letting us convert LI to LD. Considering Anet doesn't keep track of every raid kill we have, there is no way to have an exchange accurately reflect how many w5 kills any of us have. Anet could have easily swapped the rewards and not let any exchange take place. Its easy to point out everything wrong in the imperfect solution of a difficult problem, its much more difficult to find a better solution.

    API tracks your weekly kills, so they actually can keep track of how many times you looted w5 bosses.

  • Hagbard.7192Hagbard.7192 Member ✭✭
    edited September 13, 2018

    Must the first W5 boss kill before the patch (18.09.2018) to get the opportunity to exchange up to 168 Legendary Insights to Legendary Divinations, or can be the first W5 boss kill after the patch (18.09.2018) and getting the the opportunity to exchange up to 168 Legendary Insights to Legendary Divinations too?

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @josebaabasolo.5680 said:

    @thrag.9740 said:
    If there are new rewards planned for LD, I'm grateful that Anet is letting us convert LI to LD. Considering Anet doesn't keep track of every raid kill we have, there is no way to have an exchange accurately reflect how many w5 kills any of us have. Anet could have easily swapped the rewards and not let any exchange take place. Its easy to point out everything wrong in the imperfect solution of a difficult problem, its much more difficult to find a better solution.

    API tracks your weekly kills, so they actually can keep track of how many times you looted w5 bosses.

    It only knows the current week progress, you cannot look up prevvious weeks with the API

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Hagbard.7192 said:
    Must the first W5 boss kill before the patch (18.09.2018) to get the opportunity to exchange up to 168 Legendary Insights to Legendary Divinations, or can be the first W5 boss kill after the patch (18.09.2018) and getting the the opportunity to exchange up to 168 Legendary Insights to Legendary Divinations too?

    Why dont you read the dev quotes in said tread mate already answered

    Byron Miller.4629 ArenaNet ›
    September 12, 2018

    @Mireles Lore.5942 said:
    Is the participation requirement needed before the patch drops or is that unlimited time frame as well?
    

    Participation is not limited. You can earn access to the exchange after the patch as well.

  • thrag.9740thrag.9740 Member ✭✭✭

    @Malediktus.9250 said:

    @josebaabasolo.5680 said:

    @thrag.9740 said:
    If there are new rewards planned for LD, I'm grateful that Anet is letting us convert LI to LD. Considering Anet doesn't keep track of every raid kill we have, there is no way to have an exchange accurately reflect how many w5 kills any of us have. Anet could have easily swapped the rewards and not let any exchange take place. Its easy to point out everything wrong in the imperfect solution of a difficult problem, its much more difficult to find a better solution.

    API tracks your weekly kills, so they actually can keep track of how many times you looted w5 bosses.

    It only knows the current week progress, you cannot look up prevvious weeks with the API

    Exactly. Unfortunately Anet doesn't have all the information we wish they did.

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @thrag.9740 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:

    @josebaabasolo.5680 said:

    @thrag.9740 said:
    If there are new rewards planned for LD, I'm grateful that Anet is letting us convert LI to LD. Considering Anet doesn't keep track of every raid kill we have, there is no way to have an exchange accurately reflect how many w5 kills any of us have. Anet could have easily swapped the rewards and not let any exchange take place. Its easy to point out everything wrong in the imperfect solution of a difficult problem, its much more difficult to find a better solution.

    API tracks your weekly kills, so they actually can keep track of how many times you looted w5 bosses.

    It only knows the current week progress, you cannot look up prevvious weeks with the API

    Exactly. Unfortunately Anet doesn't have all the information we wish they did.

    They could probably extract the information from their log files, but maybe making a script that extracts this specific information and converts it into the right format not worth their time

  • Meaningless complaints. Im sure this is for the new legendary trinket so we can make multiples of it. You dont have to exchange it if you dont want to. But dont expect them to allow this exchange months down the line either. This is not kp either so dont expect someone with a stack to be a spectacular. If your going to kick someone kick them for poor performance not because they dont have enough of this or that.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    Meaningless complaints. Im sure this is for the new legendary trinket so we can make multiples of it. You dont have to exchange it if you dont want to. But dont expect them to allow this exchange months down the line either. This is not kp either so dont expect someone with a stack to be a spectacular. If your going to kick someone kick them for poor performance not because they dont have enough of this or that.

    You mean like 9k ap or kick shouldent happen either but it did.
    Or the 50, 100, etc kill profs for cm fractals
    The community will always find some way to narrow down the groups some way.

    And about not allowing this exchange months down the line, have you read the anet posts in this very thread?
    You can do a event wing 5 2 weeks from now and still get to exchange 168 li to new resource whenever you get the li after that.

  • Tyson.5160Tyson.5160 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    Meaningless complaints. Im sure this is for the new legendary trinket so we can make multiples of it. You dont have to exchange it if you dont want to. But dont expect them to allow this exchange months down the line either. This is not kp either so dont expect someone with a stack to be a spectacular. If your going to kick someone kick them for poor performance not because they dont have enough of this or that.

    You mean like 9k ap or kick shouldent happen either but it did.
    Or the 50, 100, etc kill profs for cm fractals
    The community will always find some way to narrow down the groups some way.

    And about not allowing this exchange months down the line, have you read the anet posts in this very thread?
    You can do a event wing 5 2 weeks from now and still get to exchange 168 li to new resource whenever you get the li after that.

    Most of these issues get fixed by doing this stuff with a guild...

  • @Linken.6345 said:

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    Meaningless complaints. Im sure this is for the new legendary trinket so we can make multiples of it. You dont have to exchange it if you dont want to. But dont expect them to allow this exchange months down the line either. This is not kp either so dont expect someone with a stack to be a spectacular. If your going to kick someone kick them for poor performance not because they dont have enough of this or that.

    You mean like 9k ap or kick shouldent happen either but it did.
    Or the 50, 100, etc kill profs for cm fractals
    The community will always find some way to narrow down the groups some way.

    And about not allowing this exchange months down the line, have you read the anet posts in this very thread?
    You can do a event wing 5 2 weeks from now and still get to exchange 168 li to new resource whenever you get the li after that.

    It doesnt give a time table if and when the exchange will stop. If its anything like what they did when they implemented the wardrobe, i expect it to last a few weeks. And if it doesnt who cares. Not me i assure you. I pug on alt accounts that barely break 5k and have no issue mostly.

  • @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    It doesnt give a time table if and when the exchange will stop.

    Sure they did give a timetable:

    @Byron Miller.4629 said:

    @Mireles Lore.5942 said:
    Is the participation requirement needed before the patch drops or is that unlimited time frame as well?

    Participation is not limited. You can earn access to the exchange after the patch as well.

    It is not limited.

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Astralporing.1957 said:

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    It doesnt give a time table if and when the exchange will stop.

    Sure they did give a timetable:

    @Byron Miller.4629 said:

    @Mireles Lore.5942 said:
    Is the participation requirement needed before the patch drops or is that unlimited time frame as well?

    Participation is not limited. You can earn access to the exchange after the patch as well.

    It is not limited.

    I amazes me that people dont read dev quotes or if they read they dont understand them at all =)

  • Zaraki.5784Zaraki.5784 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Seems like a pointless change if you can exchange 168 LI for LD unless new rewards require vastly more than 168 LD

    They probably have something planned but don't want people who don't do PoF raids to have instant access to it just because they did raid a lot in HoT is my best guess.

    ok so why would they let us convert at all then seems silly dont it?

    Well, considering many people have fully cleared W5 countless times over the last months and just now they change the W5 rewards to the new currency it would be quite unfair to not offer this

    but they offer anyone the same amount of conversion, even if they only killed 1 boss. that makes it unfair and pointless

    @Malediktus.9250 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Seems like a pointless change if you can exchange 168 LI for LD unless new rewards require vastly more than 168 LD

    They probably have something planned but don't want people who don't do PoF raids to have instant access to it just because they did raid a lot in HoT is my best guess.

    ok so why would they let us convert at all then seems silly dont it?

    Well, considering many people have fully cleared W5 countless times over the last months and just now they change the W5 rewards to the new currency it would be quite unfair to not offer this

    but they offer anyone the same amount of conversion, even if they only killed 1 boss. that makes it unfair and pointless

    Does it though? This is assuming that for whatever is coming you're going to need 200 or 250 of the currency. The ring might just need that. Which means you'd still have to raid and clear Wing 5 and 6 a respectable amount

    It would be unreasonable, the first set of legendary armor costs 150 LIs (25LIs*6 pieces), I would find it really strange that a ring (1 piece) would cost more than that.

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  • Raizel.8175Raizel.8175 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tyson.5160 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    Meaningless complaints. Im sure this is for the new legendary trinket so we can make multiples of it. You dont have to exchange it if you dont want to. But dont expect them to allow this exchange months down the line either. This is not kp either so dont expect someone with a stack to be a spectacular. If your going to kick someone kick them for poor performance not because they dont have enough of this or that.

    You mean like 9k ap or kick shouldent happen either but it did.
    Or the 50, 100, etc kill profs for cm fractals
    The community will always find some way to narrow down the groups some way.

    And about not allowing this exchange months down the line, have you read the anet posts in this very thread?
    You can do a event wing 5 2 weeks from now and still get to exchange 168 li to new resource whenever you get the li after that.

    Most of these issues get fixed by doing this stuff with a guild...

    That's always a bad argument in a game as unsocial as GW2. It's certainly undeniable that GW2's instanced PvE suffers heavily from several design-decisions, which almost leads to accessiblity converging towards zero. It's almost impossible by now to reasonably get into content like Fractal CMs or Dhuum. The risk that W6 will suffer from the same accessiblity-problems is high, so I can understand people's frustration pretty well.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Raizel.8175 said:

    @Tyson.5160 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    Meaningless complaints. Im sure this is for the new legendary trinket so we can make multiples of it. You dont have to exchange it if you dont want to. But dont expect them to allow this exchange months down the line either. This is not kp either so dont expect someone with a stack to be a spectacular. If your going to kick someone kick them for poor performance not because they dont have enough of this or that.

    You mean like 9k ap or kick shouldent happen either but it did.
    Or the 50, 100, etc kill profs for cm fractals
    The community will always find some way to narrow down the groups some way.

    And about not allowing this exchange months down the line, have you read the anet posts in this very thread?
    You can do a event wing 5 2 weeks from now and still get to exchange 168 li to new resource whenever you get the li after that.

    Most of these issues get fixed by doing this stuff with a guild...

    That's always a bad argument in a game as unsocial as GW2. It's certainly undeniable that GW2's instanced PvE suffers heavily from several design-decisions, which almost leads to accessiblity converging towards zero. It's almost impossible by now to reasonably get into content like Fractal CMs or Dhuum. The risk that W6 will suffer from the same accessiblity-problems is high, so I can understand people's frustration pretty well.

    Well find 4 (fractal cm) or 9 (raids) others and start working yourself up like everyone else did at the start then?

  • @Linken.6345 said:

    @Raizel.8175 said:

    @Tyson.5160 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    Meaningless complaints. Im sure this is for the new legendary trinket so we can make multiples of it. You dont have to exchange it if you dont want to. But dont expect them to allow this exchange months down the line either. This is not kp either so dont expect someone with a stack to be a spectacular. If your going to kick someone kick them for poor performance not because they dont have enough of this or that.

    You mean like 9k ap or kick shouldent happen either but it did.
    Or the 50, 100, etc kill profs for cm fractals
    The community will always find some way to narrow down the groups some way.

    And about not allowing this exchange months down the line, have you read the anet posts in this very thread?
    You can do a event wing 5 2 weeks from now and still get to exchange 168 li to new resource whenever you get the li after that.

    Most of these issues get fixed by doing this stuff with a guild...

    That's always a bad argument in a game as unsocial as GW2. It's certainly undeniable that GW2's instanced PvE suffers heavily from several design-decisions, which almost leads to accessiblity converging towards zero. It's almost impossible by now to reasonably get into content like Fractal CMs or Dhuum. The risk that W6 will suffer from the same accessiblity-problems is high, so I can understand people's frustration pretty well.

    Well find 4 (fractal cm) or 9 (raids) others and start working yourself up like everyone else did at the start then?

    That's pretty much it. Either find a group, or lead one yourself. That's what I've done with both raids and fractals. It's easier to weed out the kinds of people you don't want in a group that way too.

    Christian conservative.

    Disagreement =/= "negativity"
    You won't find forced positivity here.

    Passive-aggression is petty, and halts real discussion.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Raizel.8175 said:

    @Tyson.5160 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    Meaningless complaints. Im sure this is for the new legendary trinket so we can make multiples of it. You dont have to exchange it if you dont want to. But dont expect them to allow this exchange months down the line either. This is not kp either so dont expect someone with a stack to be a spectacular. If your going to kick someone kick them for poor performance not because they dont have enough of this or that.

    You mean like 9k ap or kick shouldent happen either but it did.
    Or the 50, 100, etc kill profs for cm fractals
    The community will always find some way to narrow down the groups some way.

    And about not allowing this exchange months down the line, have you read the anet posts in this very thread?
    You can do a event wing 5 2 weeks from now and still get to exchange 168 li to new resource whenever you get the li after that.

    Most of these issues get fixed by doing this stuff with a guild...

    That's always a bad argument in a game as unsocial as GW2. It's certainly undeniable that GW2's instanced PvE suffers heavily from several design-decisions, which almost leads to accessiblity converging towards zero. It's almost impossible by now to reasonably get into content like Fractal CMs or Dhuum. The risk that W6 will suffer from the same accessiblity-problems is high, so I can understand people's frustration pretty well.

    You saying GW2 is unsocial does not make it so.

    GW2 is one of the friendliest "pick up and never interact with anyone" games on the market for casual open world (and much of its instanced content), yes. There is a ton of guilds though (as it should be) and I guarantee you, many of those guilds are filled with a bunch of very friendly players of all shapes and sizes.

    The fact that the most difficult pve content in this game CAN be puged (a hilarious impossible notion in most other MMOs) is a testament how far Arenanet are willing to simplify content so it is actually doable. Go pug a Mythic raid in WoW without out- gearing it severely (or even out leveling it).

    W6 will work exactly like every new wing in the past:

    • the first weeks will be full with dedicated hardcore raiders figuring out the fights putting in multiple days of training in
    • a ton of less dedicated players of different skill levels giving it a shot
    • eventually the very hardcore crowd will introduce kill proof demands
    • the pool of players who complete the raid or some bosses will gradually increase and with it the amount of kill proof required
    • some weeks down the road the only reliable way to get experience and initial kills will be to run training raids since even the PUG community will have moved past completion as majority

    The solution as always to any issues:

    • be willing to dedicate enough time initially (I myself won't be able to play until October so I get to join 3 weeks later too)
    • join a guild which does things at their own pace (I'm a member of 3 raid guilds all with different skill levels and people, they all progress at their own pace)
    • join training runs once the majority of the PUG community has mastered the fights benefiting from often some experienced players helping out

    Working as intended.

  • @Cyninja.2954 said:

    @Raizel.8175 said:

    @Tyson.5160 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Magnus Godrik.5841 said:
    Meaningless complaints. Im sure this is for the new legendary trinket so we can make multiples of it. You dont have to exchange it if you dont want to. But dont expect them to allow this exchange months down the line either. This is not kp either so dont expect someone with a stack to be a spectacular. If your going to kick someone kick them for poor performance not because they dont have enough of this or that.

    You mean like 9k ap or kick shouldent happen either but it did.
    Or the 50, 100, etc kill profs for cm fractals
    The community will always find some way to narrow down the groups some way.

    And about not allowing this exchange months down the line, have you read the anet posts in this very thread?
    You can do a event wing 5 2 weeks from now and still get to exchange 168 li to new resource whenever you get the li after that.

    Most of these issues get fixed by doing this stuff with a guild...

    That's always a bad argument in a game as unsocial as GW2. It's certainly undeniable that GW2's instanced PvE suffers heavily from several design-decisions, which almost leads to accessiblity converging towards zero. It's almost impossible by now to reasonably get into content like Fractal CMs or Dhuum. The risk that W6 will suffer from the same accessiblity-problems is high, so I can understand people's frustration pretty well.

    You saying GW2 is unsocial does not make it so.

    GW2 is one of the friendliest "pick up and never interact with anyone" games on the market for casual open world (and much of its instanced content), yes. There is a ton of guilds though (as it should be) and I guarantee you, many of those guilds are filled with a bunch of very friendly players of all shapes and sizes.

    The fact that the most difficult pve content in this game CAN be puged (a hilarious impossible notion in most other MMOs) is a testament how far Arenanet are willing to simplify content so it is actually doable. Go pug a Mythic raid in WoW without out- gearing it severely (or even out leveling it).

    W6 will work exactly like every new wing in the past:

    • the first weeks will be full with dedicated hardcore raiders figuring out the fights putting in multiple days of training in
    • a ton of less dedicated players of different skill levels giving it a shot
    • eventually the very hardcore crowd will introduce kill proof demands
    • the pool of players who complete the raid or some bosses will gradually increase and with it the amount of kill proof required
    • some weeks down the road the only reliable way to get experience and initial kills will be to run training raids since even the PUG community will have moved past completion as majority

    The solution as always to any issues:

    • be willing to dedicate enough time initially (I myself won't be able to play until October so I get to join 3 weeks later too)
    • join a guild which does things at their own pace (I'm a member of 3 raid guilds all with different skill levels and people, they all progress at their own pace)
    • join training runs once the majority of the PUG community has mastered the fights benefiting from often some experienced players helping out

    Working as intended.

    Did you just drop the mic? I think so.

  • Cregath.7628Cregath.7628 Member ✭✭✭

    I skimmed through the thread, but I'm surprised that noone expects that maybe the "upgradable armor" that is shown in the trailer may be another set of Legendary Armor, so that those who only have access to PoF can have a Legendary Armor set from raids as well. Since the game is imagined to be modular and all that.

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  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cregath.7628 said:
    I skimmed through the thread, but I'm surprised that noone expects that maybe the "upgradable armor" that is shown in the trailer may be another set of Legendary Armor, so that those who only have access to PoF can have a Legendary Armor set from raids as well. Since the game is imagined to be modular and all that.

    Nah it wont be thats for the living world episode pof got the legendary ring for raid already.

  • J envy.5270J envy.5270 Member ✭✭
    edited September 16, 2018

    so dont do w5 b4 patch or youll miss out on 4 extra insights.

  • Talindra.4958Talindra.4958 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I think the armour is for pvp

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  • I guess its pointless to ask whether or not it could be bumped up for those who run Dhuum prior to the patch. Would run into issues seeing who did it before or after the patch.

  • Eowin Of Rohan.2619Eowin Of Rohan.2619 Member ✭✭
    edited September 17, 2018

    Urgent question : will raids be reset with tomorrow's release. In other words, should we clear w5 right now, get 4LI, then get 4LD later this week, or should we not clear w5 today so we can get 4LDs ahead this week instead of getting 4 good old LIs ?

    edit : quick quick, we're about to start Deimos !

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No it wont be reset

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Byron Miller.4629 said:

    @Mireles Lore.5942 said:
    Is the participation requirement needed before the patch drops or is that unlimited time frame as well?

    Participation is not limited. You can earn access to the exchange after the patch as well.

    @Byron Miller.4629
    According to the patch notes it says this.

    Players who have participated in completing at least one Path of Fire raid encounter prior to this patch will be able to trade in a limited number of Legendary Insights for Legendary Divinations.

    So this answer is wrong or is the patch notes wrong?

  • @Linken.6345 said:

    @Byron Miller.4629 said:

    @Mireles Lore.5942 said:
    Is the participation requirement needed before the patch drops or is that unlimited time frame as well?

    Participation is not limited. You can earn access to the exchange after the patch as well.

    @Byron Miller.4629
    According to the patch notes it says this.

    Players who have participated in completing at least one Path of Fire raid encounter prior to this patch will be able to trade in a limited number of Legendary Insights for Legendary Divinations.

    So this answer is wrong or is the patch notes wrong?

    Take your li with you, you can exchange them at Glenna.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 19, 2018

    @Xantaria.8726 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Byron Miller.4629 said:

    @Mireles Lore.5942 said:
    Is the participation requirement needed before the patch drops or is that unlimited time frame as well?

    Participation is not limited. You can earn access to the exchange after the patch as well.

    @Byron Miller.4629
    According to the patch notes it says this.

    Players who have participated in completing at least one Path of Fire raid encounter prior to this patch will be able to trade in a limited number of Legendary Insights for Legendary Divinations.

    So this answer is wrong or is the patch notes wrong?

    Take your li with you, you can exchange them at Glenna.

    You see the "prior to this patch" in that line it means you have to have done it before wing 6 went live, the dev I quoted say that you could get the ability to trade in even after wing 6 went live.

    No problem for me but for others who havent completed a encounter in w5 yet it is.

  • Has this feature been added yet? Cause I'm not seeing anything of the sort in the exchange tab from either Glenna or the vendor in the aerodrome.
    I have completed wing 5, have the precursor ring and enough KP to prove it too.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Warmachinez.8710 said:
    Has this feature been added yet? Cause I'm not seeing anything of the sort in the exchange tab from either Glenna or the vendor in the aerodrome.
    I have completed wing 5, have the precursor ring and enough KP to prove it too.

    Glenna in Wing 6 definitely has the option to exchange (not sure if in other wings), I did so myself.

    You have to have the appropriate amount of LI in your inventory though.

  • @Cyninja.2954 said:

    @Warmachinez.8710 said:
    Has this feature been added yet? Cause I'm not seeing anything of the sort in the exchange tab from either Glenna or the vendor in the aerodrome.
    I have completed wing 5, have the precursor ring and enough KP to prove it too.

    Glenna in Wing 6 definitely has the option to exchange (not sure if in other wings), I did so myself.

    You have to have the appropriate amount of LI in your inventory though.

    Ha, okay, just put the LI in my inventory like ya said and it shows up now. Wasn't expecting that lol.
    Thanks!

  • Daniel.5428Daniel.5428 Member ✭✭✭

    Only 1 demand: Stop locking legendaries behind raids. There are a lot of maps in GW2 that are nearly empty and is very hard to do achis on. The idea of locking Aurora behind LS3 was super-nice. Do the same with other trinkets too. I mean raids already got an animated armor-set and tons of other rewards like ascended drops, exotics, supply crates for CM etc. I am a raider, dont get me wrong, I only need Quadim to finish Coalescense second collection. But I already lost 3 friend with over 2 year of gw2 on their backs for the simple fact that they wanted to have all legendaries but did not had enough time to raid.

  • Xantaria.8726Xantaria.8726 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2018

    @Daniel.5428 said:
    Only 1 demand: Stop locking legendaries behind raids. There are a lot of maps in GW2 that are nearly empty and is very hard to do achis on. The idea of locking Aurora behind LS3 was super-nice. Do the same with other trinkets too. I mean raids already got an animated armor-set and tons of other rewards like ascended drops, exotics, supply crates for CM etc. I am a raider, dont get me wrong, I only need Quadim to finish Coalescense second collection. But I already lost 3 friend with over 2 year of gw2 on their backs for the simple fact that they wanted to have all legendaries but did not had enough time to raid.

    I only have 1 demand: Stop locking legendaries behind content which i or others dont want to play in. I never wanted to play much Open World, yet i had to hardgrind Open World Living Story Maps and currency to get Aurora and world exploration for weapons qq.

    On a serious note: Not every Game Mode is for everyone, yet everything has some kind of legendary gear. You have to do open world for the weapons and 1 trinket. You have to raid for 1 type of armor and 1 ring. You can pvp or wvw yourself a legy armor and backpack. You have 1 fractal backpack.
    Its nonesense to cry about "locked" legys when you must do everything anyway. You demand for non-locked raid legys? Fine by me, but then allow me to buy the stuff for open world legys for magnetide shards. Otherwise nope. Everyone has to work for their legys. I cried in agony by doing a time gated collection (hi there druidbackpack) to get aurora + collecting time gated currency of 6 stupid maps (that were greatly dead already since i started the collection about 6 months later, so your argument that this would fill empty maps is actual wrong, they will only temporarly filled until ppl have done it).
    And no offense, but i have to work for 12h a day during summer and have rl as well, yet even i could manage to get my kills of the new wing and worked for all 3 legy armors last year. I know that not all are the same, but god its not that hard to join a trainingsdiscord advatised in the forum or reddit or even the raid lfg.
    The proplem with the empty maps is rather because replaying stuff is not rewarding. That should need some focus, mainly personal story.

  • Daniel.5428Daniel.5428 Member ✭✭✭

    Is stupid to cry about doing Open-World. This is what the game mostly is. If you want instanced only mmo play Diablo and something else. MMORPGs are about open world. Pvp and W3 aremore like pvp-competitive and fractals, raids are more like co-op instances but the essence of the game is the Open-World activities, this is how it is in every MMORPG. And, comparing to other content, raiding community is the lowest anyway. GW2 is going random ways anyway, is not even half as solid as the rulling MMOs on the market mainly because Anet became pretty cash-grabby. The replayability will never be resolved. The maps are badly designed. They are designed as a 2-3 weeks use only. They try to solve the replayability problem by introducing collections like requiem who force you to do those hearts for map currency over and over again. This is the problem with GW2. It has too many useless currencies. Every map has a different currency which is stupid.

  • sigur.9453sigur.9453 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2018

    @Daniel.5428 said:
    Is stupid to cry about doing Open-World. This is what the game mostly is. If you want instanced only mmo play Diablo and something else. MMORPGs are about open world. Pvp and W3 aremore like pvp-competitive and fractals, raids are more like co-op instances but the essence of the game is the Open-World activities, this is how it is in every MMORPG.

    and yet there are people only playing for instanced endgame content. i also hate open world grinds (or activities you called it here)

    And, comparing to other content, raiding community is the lowest anyway. GW2 is going random ways anyway, is not even half as solid as the rulling MMOs on the market mainly because Anet became pretty cash-grabby. The replayability will never be resolved. The maps are badly designed. They are designed as a 2-3 weeks use only. They try to solve the replayability problem by introducing collections like requiem who force you to do those hearts for map currency over and over again. This is the problem with GW2. It has too many useless currencies. Every map has a different currency which is stupid.

    yes we raiders are a minority, but yet we are part of the game (a loyal one after all) same goes for pvp & wvw. so please don´t "opress" us.

    the currency actually adds "replayability" to all the maps, so not so stupid after all. but yes, the maps are pretty much once and done.

  • Tyson.5160Tyson.5160 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Xantaria.8726 said:

    @Daniel.5428 said:
    Only 1 demand: Stop locking legendaries behind raids. There are a lot of maps in GW2 that are nearly empty and is very hard to do achis on. The idea of locking Aurora behind LS3 was super-nice. Do the same with other trinkets too. I mean raids already got an animated armor-set and tons of other rewards like ascended drops, exotics, supply crates for CM etc. I am a raider, dont get me wrong, I only need Quadim to finish Coalescense second collection. But I already lost 3 friend with over 2 year of gw2 on their backs for the simple fact that they wanted to have all legendaries but did not had enough time to raid.

    I only have 1 demand: Stop locking legendaries behind content which i or others dont want to play in. I never wanted to play much Open World, yet i had to hardgrind Open World Living Story Maps and currency to get Aurora and world exploration for weapons qq.

    On a serious note: Not every Game Mode is for everyone, yet everything has some kind of legendary gear. You have to do open world for the weapons and 1 trinket. You have to raid for 1 type of armor and 1 ring. You can pvp or wvw yourself a legy armor and backpack. You have 1 fractal backpack.
    Its nonesense to cry about "locked" legys when you must do everything anyway. You demand for non-locked raid legys? Fine by me, but then allow me to buy the stuff for open world legys for magnetide shards. Otherwise nope. Everyone has to work for their legys. I cried in agony by doing a time gated collection (hi there druidbackpack) to get aurora + collecting time gated currency of 6 stupid maps (that were greatly dead already since i started the collection about 6 months later, so your argument that this would fill empty maps is actual wrong, they will only temporarly filled until ppl have done it).
    And no offense, but i have to work for 12h a day during summer and have rl as well, yet even i could manage to get my kills of the new wing and worked for all 3 legy armors last year. I know that not all are the same, but god its not that hard to join a trainingsdiscord advatised in the forum or reddit or even the raid lfg.
    The proplem with the empty maps is rather because replaying stuff is not rewarding. That should need some focus, mainly personal story.

    I have no issue if Raids get a Legendary ring, as long as they spread the trinkets through pvp and wvw as well. Spreading the love sort of speak.

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