Spitefull Spirit

This trait is insane. It creates free kills for the necro with NO ANIMATION. The skill itself won't kill you but it makes it absurdly easy for reapers especially to blow you up. It is not ok for a skill to convert 2 boons into conditions with NO ANIMATION, while being UN-INTERUPTABLE.

Always hated Guard's Smiter's Boon more.So much more.

Have you heard of Steal ?

Blind works...

Spiteful Spirit ain't so bad, it's when Spiteful Spirit and Chill of Death proc at the same time, now that's painful but that's also punishment for being too close to the Reaper.

@sephiroth.4217 said:Blind works...

Spiteful Spirit ain't so bad, it's when Spiteful Spirit and Chill of Death proc at the same time, now that's painful but that's also punishment for being too close to the Reaper.

And lesser spinal shivers.

@Alatar.7364 said:Always hated Guard's Smiter's Boon more.So much more.

That has a cast time though. It's when you use a heal skill.

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@Alatar.7364 said:Always hated Guard's Smiter's Boon more.So much more.

Nah, it activates exactly as you press the heal button. Not after, not during. It's instant.

@Ovark.2514 said:This trait is insane. It creates free kills for the necro with NO ANIMATION. The skill itself won't kill you but it makes it absurdly easy for reapers especially to blow you up. It is not ok for a skill to convert 2 boons into conditions with NO ANIMATION, while being UN-INTERUPTABLE.

LoLreally you have a problem with Spiteful Spirit which is considered an active skill and you dont have a problem with chill to death and Spiteful Spirit have an ANIMATION

bro any skill or effect that come from an insta cast F skill is considered and will be always UNINTERRUPTIBLE

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Blind works...

Spiteful Spirit ain't so bad, it's when Spiteful Spirit and Chill of Death proc at the same time, now that's painful but that's also punishment for being too close to the Reaper.

Isnt that the chill of death trait?

@Alatar.7364 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@Alatar.7364 said:Always hated Guard's Smiter's Boon more.So much more.

False. It activates when the heal has reached a point at which it goes on cooldown. For Shelter it's instantaneous but for Litany of Wrath and DH's trap heal, it is attached to the cast time.

Double posted, my mistake.

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Blind works...

Spiteful Spirit ain't so bad, it's when Spiteful Spirit and Chill of Death proc at the same time, now that's painful but that's also punishment for being too close to the Reaper.

There's spiteful Spirit, chilling Nova and spinal shivers. Not sure which trait is bound to which proc. Regardless, there's three of them.

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Blind works...

Spiteful Spirit ain't so bad, it's when Spiteful Spirit and Chill of Death proc at the same time, now that's painful but that's also punishment for being too close to the Reaper.

When your target is under 50% hp going inside shround can make proc of spitefull spirit which is causing spinal shivers to proc, target now has chill so it is possible that next attack will proc chilling nova. If stars align you can kill opponent with this random combo. 3 traits in 2 different trait lines. Not even as broken as deadeye one ability which will make as much damage

@Virelion.4128 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:Blind works...

Spiteful Spirit ain't so bad, it's when Spiteful Spirit and Chill of Death proc at the same time, now that's painful but that's also punishment for being too close to the Reaper.

Not the next attack, the same attack. Spinal shivers and Lesser Spinal Shivers will apply chill before removing boons and doing damage. Should Chilling Nova be off cooldown and Lesser Spinal Shivers crits Chilling Nova will proc. It also means that all Spinal Shivers iterations will get a 10% damage boost from Cold Shoulder 100% of the time due to how they chill first. Same with Chilling Nova since the target has to be chilled for it to work as is.

Problem thiugh is the initial hit being Spiteful Spirit. On a target below 50%, which you need to proc Chill of Death, it will convert 4 boons into conditions, more often than not rendering them boonless and meaning Lesser Spinal Shivers will do very low damage. Unless your target has 7 boons at the start or during the instance the combo does much less damage than it could.

@Alatar.7364 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@Alatar.7364 said:Always hated Guard's Smiter's Boon more.So much more.

No, it doesn't. It happens when you finish casting the heal skill. It's only "instant" when the guardian is using shelter, because the skill doesn't have a cast time, it's just the block channeling. And in the "middle" of "Receive the light!", because the skill have a cast time, then channel.

@Arcaedus.7290 said:

@Alatar.7364 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@Alatar.7364 said:Always hated Guard's Smiter's Boon more.So much more.

Ah, my bad then.I've been using Shelter and Litany of Wrath, with its 0.25 cast time, the most on my Guard so that might have shaped my thought.

@sephiroth.4217 said:Blind works...

Spiteful Spirit ain't so bad, it's when Spiteful Spirit and Chill of Death proc at the same time, now that's painful but that's also punishment for being too close to the Reaper.

Having Spiteful Spirit proc CoD is actually wasting the CoD.

Why?

Because CoD only procs against sub 50% targets, and Spiteful Spirit removes 4 boons when hitting a sub 50% target. CoD only does it's full damage when it removes 3 boons, so in order to get a massive damage spike out of Spiteful Spirit + CoD, the target being struck would have to have 7+ boons on them at the time they where hit, any less than that and Spiteful Spirit would be preventing CoD from doing it's full damage. Most targets that aren't guardians typically don't have 7+ boons at a time.

Speaking of Guardians, it's pretty noticeable that all of the people complaining in this tread seem to be guardian mains, which isn't surprising as guardian is the only class reaper has a really good matchup against, as guardian is the only class that lacks the mobility to kite a reaper, and is also highly vulnerable to boonrip.