Ele has been forced to use healing amulets since launch to function at all...why?

The elementalist had the most reduced pool of usable amulets in pvp since launch, more exactly the class more than everybody else has been greatly affected by stats dependency , a problem inherent with ele and not just low HP classes because as we can see both guardian and thief have been able to use a variety of amulets without much fuss, meanwhile with ele has always been : "use amulet X or die" ; always the same bunker gameplay and staff pocket DPS in wvw/pve...where others will ress you ?!!

The limited gameplay potential of ele has always been hard to justify and now more than ever

Isn't it just because elementalists always carry several healing skills in their kit (water attunement) therefore they are among the few who can utilize healing amulets?

Because eles have no good built-in survivability, so every working build just packs in every bit of survivability just to get to the baseline that other class's have.

Also, because Anet is terrible at balancing their game.

Thief has been able to use variety of Amulets?

Thief has had next to no variety in amulets they use. That being said, ele needs to get some redesigning done if they want it to be able to use stuff without healing power. The problem right now is if they buff it's sustain normally all the tank and healing power builds become immortal but if they leave ele forced to run healing power to get sustain then it's forced to run healing amulets.

@Ario.8964 said:Thief has had next to no variety in amulets they use. That being said, ele needs to get some redesigning done if they want it to be able to use stuff without healing power. The problem right now is if they buff it's sustain normally all the tank and healing power builds become immortal but if they leave ele forced to run healing power to get sustain then it's forced to run healing amulets.

Surprisingly many eles fail to see that and that leave the devs free to land more useless buffs which only end up in further nerfs down the road

Sad part is all the buffs go to support ele and so damage ele just gets gutted even more.

@Ario.8964 said:Sad part is all the buffs go to support ele and so damage ele just gets gutted even more.

That has been the case since launch, they never wanted to go back on the drawin board...too much work..instead they just made healing amulets more and more necessary,

Healing power isn't as mandatory as vitality imo. I feel more impactful with a damage oriented amulet, but generally i change according to team comps. Maybe we should have a higher base healing power or Boon duration to make up for stat deficiency.

Yet again, they move an Ele thread to the subforum while leaving up 4 mesmer threads, 2 thief threads, 2 necro threads and a revenant thread in the main PvP forums.

Which forum moderator was hurt by an ele? Come on, own up to your ridiculous bias. Did you get farmed in PvP by a scepter/focus one shot build or something? Did a coworker ele main, piss you off? How about an explanation of any sort for why only ele threads are relegated to the never-looked at dumpster pile that is this subforum?

@NaturallyNick.4058 said:Yet again, they move an Ele thread to the subforum while leaving up 4 mesmer threads, 2 thief threads, 2 necro threads and a revenant thread in the main PvP forums.

Which forum moderator was hurt by an ele? Come on, own up to your ridiculous bias. Did you get farmed in PvP by a scepter/focus one shot build or something? Did a coworker ele main, kitten you off? How about an explanation of any sort for why only ele threads are relegated to the never-looked at dumpster pile that is this subforum?

The point is... well... ele is so weak, it actually does not affect anyone else than us. Noone is interested in what eles do or want, that is why whenever there is an ele in the game, it is basically 4on5. It does not really exist anymore for other players.

The other classes on the other hand actually have to be dealt with...

Remember, ele is a skill class. So next time you dodge perfectly, land every hit and yet still die to a deadeye or spellbreaker, remember that it took alot of skill to do it so gracefully. Limited stat choices and being forced to run healing and other defensive stats while holo and warrior don't have to is part of the -experience- you see. Its like Dark Souls vs the bosses. You are meant to have an uphill battle and need to perform better to have equal combat efficiency.

Make thread with mesmer/necro/thief in the title, but talk about ele problems. I'd like to see what happens.

@steki.1478 said:Make thread with mesmer/necro/thief in the title, but talk about ele problems. I'd like to see what happens.

I like the way you think. [Deceptive thread] should be a thing.