TheDevice.2751 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Literally can just go invis if you happened to be able to reach them.Can Reapers get unlimited LF and zero cooldown shroud to enter whenever they get threatened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Warriors get full adrenaline all of the time too with no CD on full counter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Oooh, I got one.Mirage gains 50 endurance each time they dodge roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I don't get the problem here ... it costs to get that on demand invis ... don't pretend it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazySummer.2568 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 watch reapers get a trait that resets shroud cd on dodge too because anet balance team B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevice.2751 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 @Obtena.7952 said:I don't get the problem here ... it costs to get that on demand invis ... don't pretend it doesn't. Not a surprise since you always take issue with anyone having issues with game balance. Not sure you've ever agreed with any OP on these forums. So, again, not surprising. @LazySummer.2568 said:watch reapers get a trait that resets shroud cd on dodge too because anet balance team B)That would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevice.2751 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 @Fat Disgrace.4275 said:Warriors get full adrenaline all of the time too with no CD on full counterAgreed.@Crab Fear.1624 said:Oooh, I got one.Mirage gains 50 endurance each time they dodge rollYes, I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashgar.3024 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @"TheDevice.2751" said:Literally can just go invis if you happened to be able to reach them.Can Reapers get unlimited LF and zero cooldown shroud to enter whenever they get threatened?Does that happen whenever you get caught off-guard / without cooldowns on Reaper?https://clips.twitch.tv/LaconicBigCodHotPokketI don't think so. DE is squishy as hell. Remove their stealth and any melee can just tunnel them into the ground (source i played it before the rework and that's exactly what happened, the only way the original iteration of DE was playable was P/P which was toxic as hell). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyreborn.1938 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @Griever.8150 said:Necro almost died while having every CD and FULL health. Reaper shroud and especially soulspiral with quickness capable of destroying EVERYTHING withing moment.(Should I mention this pull skill is hilariously stupid to have 1200 pull on 5 targets ?)And to get to DE you need to walk 1500 range to him ,then he use rifle 4 or shadowstep and continue to shoot at you . Its a hard task for any melee class to get to them before dying . (even if u come to them in melee you get DS right in you face ,fun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 There is enough reveal in the game now to counter such frequent stealthing. The bigger problem with DE is its elite Shadow Meld, which removes reveal. In my opinion, Shadow Meld shouldn't be a 2 ammo skill. It should be a single use with a slightly longer CD. That skill is a lot more powerful than people realize it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noha.3749 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 uuh. Sure give necro infinite deathshroud and warriors infinite adrenaline etc.Then give deadeyes a way to deal same amount of AoE damage as necros and infinite innitiative and we are fine. stop QQ without seeing the cons it already has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I guess the real question is...Who would win between an infinite reapershroud and infinite stealth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @NICENIKESHOE.7128 said:I guess the real question is...Who would win between an infinite reapershroud and infinite stealth?Well, lf will still drain I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @Fat Disgrace.4275 said:@NICENIKESHOE.7128 said:I guess the real question is...Who would win between an infinite reapershroud and infinite stealth?Well, lf will still drain I guess?Mate you can get more creative than that.Have a reaper locked in shroud forever with no drains vs a thief who can stealth forever and knows how to position himself.Literal battle of the century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @NICENIKESHOE.7128 said:@Fat Disgrace.4275 said:@NICENIKESHOE.7128 said:I guess the real question is...Who would win between an infinite reapershroud and infinite stealth?Well, lf will still drain I guess?Mate you can get more creative than that.Have a reaper locked in shroud forever with no drains vs a thief who can stealth forever and knows how to position himself.Literal battle of the century. No fair, reaper can't die. That's cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus.3192 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 oooh like it...Can guardians get Aegis and AOE blind on dodge? Even that would be less OP than stealth on dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syszery.1592 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @TheDevice.2751 said:Literally can just go invis if you happened to be able to reach them.Can Reapers get unlimited LF and zero cooldown shroud to enter whenever they get threatened?I understand that it is incredibly frustrating to fight a deadeye on necro (but even more satisfying if you mange to win...) but don't pretend to be beating any other thief build on reaper with ease... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @Spartacus.3192 said:oooh like it...Can guardians get Aegis and AOE blind on dodge? Even that would be less OP than stealth on dodge. Somewhere deep inside of me I think next expansion will be:Guardian receives Aegis on DodgeMesmer gains stealth on dodgeWarrior gains Defy Pain on DodgeRev trips over on dodgeHolosmith AoE knockdown on dodgeNecro converts 2 boons on dodgeRanger AoE heals on dodgeThief 450 ports on DodgeEle arcane trait becomes baseline in new spec and will be deemed OP and quickly nerfed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 OP's salt shall feed my family for generations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Obscure.6054 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @TheDevice.2751 said:@LazySummer.2568 said:watch reapers get a trait that resets shroud cd on dodge too because anet balance team B)That would be awesome.Avatar checks out. But I agree. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craray.2603 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Spectral Grasp is your friend when fighting DE's on a necro. You'll have a good chance to win if followed by a nice combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Someone doesn't know how to AOE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @TheDevice.2751 said:@Obtena.7952 said:I don't get the problem here ... it costs to get that on demand invis ... don't pretend it doesn't. Not a surprise since you always take issue with anyone having issues with game balance. Not sure you've ever agreed with any OP on these forums. So, again, not surprising. Doesn't change what I said ... there is a cost to a DE getting on-demand invisibility that you aren't willing to recognize and until you do, you got no chance to be taken seriously here. You shouldn't let your past experience discussing bad ideas with me cloud your judgement on responding to my legitimate comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Play.6104 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @TheDevice.2751 said:Literally can just go invis if you happened to be able to reach them.Can Reapers get unlimited LF and zero cooldown shroud to enter whenever they get threatened?They give something up to go invisible. Either a dodge, or an elite. Just use AOE. Reaper should be an easy win vs deadeye especially if you reach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Play.6104 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 @NICENIKESHOE.7128 said:I guess the real question is...Who would win between an infinite reapershroud and infinite stealth?What is the cool down on spiteful spirit? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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