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(SPOILER) Hypothetical Line-Ups for the Kralk Fight

Musaroxy.2874Musaroxy.2874 Member ✭✭✭
edited November 1, 2018 in Lore

So, that Aurene vision scene in the last episode was heavy, huh? Despite the grim situation, that brought us a lot of theoretical line-ups for how we'd fight Kralkatorrik, from facing him with only Dragon's Watch, to bringing in the Pact. I thought it'd be fun if we could see what hypothetical Dragon-Fighting teams would be most popular, and what everyone else could come up with. (EDIT) I forgot to include an option of "These two or more choices together (Comment Below)" so if you would've picked that one, just go with Option 7 and comment the actual thing.

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(SPOILER) Hypothetical Line-Ups for the Kralk Fight 29 votes

Logan and Zojja show up with the Pact, Destiny's Edge reunion with Eir and Snaff in the Mists, one last Hurrah for Destiny's Edge/Payback for their past failure.
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Logan shows up with the Pact, and we combine our forces we're gathering in Sun's Refuge with their's and launch an all-out attack on Kralk.
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DietPepsi.4371 1 vote
Just stick with Dragon's Watch and Aurene.
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Cynder.2509AdrikRuk.1436 2 votes
The Sun's Refuge crew, with our Achievement Buddies joining in on the action if we've completed their collections.
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Resurrect Palawa Joko and have him kill Kralk.
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Planned attack with the Ghosts from the Mists who are currently holding off Kralk, attack on Joko with the Primeval Ghosts turns out to be foreshadowing.
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Option __ but with this person/team included. (Comment response)
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Other (Comment response)
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  • Rognik.2579Rognik.2579 Member ✭✭✭
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    I mean, I'm in favour of calling in as many people as possible to take Kralk down, seeing as he seems to be the physically largest dragon (at least so far). If I could have my ideal lineup, it'd be something like bringing down Smodur, Jennah, the entire Arcane Eye, Knut Whitebear, and somehow even the Pale Tree with as many troops as each city can spare.

    As I know that will never actually happen, I suppose #1 would be the closest to a realistic lineup.

  • Logan and Zojja show up with the Pact, Destiny's Edge reunion with Eir and Snaff in the Mists, one last Hurrah for Destiny's Edge/Payback for their past failure.

    I'm for DE redemption - would hopefully bring closure and allow fresh new direction with old DE finally in the retirement home and debt cleared.

  • Other (Comment response)

    notice that between alternatives of aurenes visions it's always aurene+X people like it is now->everyone dies, with only difference being headcount of "allies" aurene would get.

    if I'd be looking for foreshadowing in ls4 the mathod of kralks doom - DERVs - golems that are effective at figthing branded, while powered by branded crystals.

    so I'd say the most logical course of action for me from here on would be - yes bring back the pact to the table, but get it onto expanding tech of DERVs - you may be able to bring them "up close and personal" to a shatterer but that does nto seem really an option against kralk. what we need is long range version of same tech distributed over large number of very mobile vehicles that would enter the mists i huge invasion and gun down the dragon - once it's dead aurene can swoop in to absorb released energy.

  • Other (Comment response)

    The Gods. Based on Aurene having seen every possible combination of allies that she could account for, which would include all the options included in your poll.

  • Other (Comment response)

    Now that we've got the Mists to play with? I wouldn't mind seeing the gods moving to contain Kralk, but the scenario I'd be most excited for would be taking this opportunity to have the Forgotten return in a big way. We're missing a lot of information about 'Glint's Legacy' and the last dragonrise still, and that'd be good to have before we ask/make Aurene play the part ordained for her.

    (Bonus points if the final confrontation occurs in the Rift and the Hall of Heroes. Beyond making for a great set-piece, the center of the universe, the one place that touches all times and all places, would be the logical endgame for Kralkatorrik.)

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  • Narcemus.1348Narcemus.1348 Member ✭✭✭
    Logan and Zojja show up with the Pact, Destiny's Edge reunion with Eir and Snaff in the Mists, one last Hurrah for Destiny's Edge/Payback for their past failure.

    I think it will take a lot more than just Destiny's edge, I think we'll need to compile everything we have to make it work, but the most important thing for me is redemption for DE. The rest of it, while cool, is less important.

  • Other (Comment response)

    While I do think Logan and Zojja will (or at least should kitten you) return and reunite with Eir and Snaff in the Mists for a "one last hurrah for Destiny's Edge/payback for their past failure", the visions from Episode 4 pretty much outright tells us that any combination of all past tools used against Elder Dragons - which would include the Pact and Destiny's Edge even with Dragon's Watch - will not succeed.

    The solution will be in a brand new mcguffin we'll be learning about in episode 5.

  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Logan and Zojja show up with the Pact, Destiny's Edge reunion with Eir and Snaff in the Mists, one last Hurrah for Destiny's Edge/Payback for their past failure.

    The first option a little melded with the second - the pact and elonian forces will also be present, but mainly just to explain why DE isn't being swarmed by branded during their dramatic moments, and to give us a sense of payoff again for helping all those people

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  • Logan and Zojja show up with the Pact, Destiny's Edge reunion with Eir and Snaff in the Mists, one last Hurrah for Destiny's Edge/Payback for their past failure.

    The conclusion of Destiny's Edge is the bare minimum needed to get Kralkatorrik. We likely need more allies to distract the elder Dragon, so take this with a grain of (other), namely elonian forces, ghosts, whatever we can get our hands on, really, as the commander is pressed for both time and allies.
    Alternatively we could ride Aurene into battle and solo Kralk by landing on his Forehead.

  • Yannir.4132Yannir.4132 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'm far more interested in the journey up to that point.
    Knowing ANet, it's also far more likely that they'll pull the rug from under our feet, twist the story into a whole different direction and not give us Kralk at all. Copping out with a flashy and dramatic misdirection.

  • Narcemus.1348Narcemus.1348 Member ✭✭✭
    Logan and Zojja show up with the Pact, Destiny's Edge reunion with Eir and Snaff in the Mists, one last Hurrah for Destiny's Edge/Payback for their past failure.

    @Yannir.4132 said:
    I'm far more interested in the journey up to that point.
    Knowing ANet, it's also far more likely that they'll pull the rug from under our feet, twist the story into a whole different direction and not give us Kralk at all. Copping out with a flashy and dramatic misdirection.

    Kralkatorrik is really Lyssa!

  • perilisk.1874perilisk.1874 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm thinking the Six (Five?) might get involved, what with K running rampant in the Mists -- he's now a potential multiverse level threat, not just a world-level threat.

  • Other (Comment response)

    We can't kill him (without making a mess of things. We don't actually know how to replace him, and could Aurene just randomly know how?), and (depending on how powerful you think the gift of prophecy is) we are not able to kill him. So maybe we won't kill him.

  • Poormany.4507Poormany.4507 Member ✭✭
    edited November 4, 2018
    Logan and Zojja show up with the Pact, Destiny's Edge reunion with Eir and Snaff in the Mists, one last Hurrah for Destiny's Edge/Payback for their past failure.

    I feel like it'll be a combination of Destiny's Edge, Pact, Dragon's Watch, Sun's Refuge crew, and maybe some of the new S4 allies. I think we'll either just kill Kralk and Aurene absorbs his power or, as others mentioned, use some Mcguffin device to transfer his power to Aurene. I also feel like something will go wrong during the power transfer and either some of his magic will be lost and cause the next threat to rise (either from the Mists or another elder dragon(s)), or Aurene turns against us with her new power, leading into Season 5.

  • Other (Comment response)

    other:

    we have three cleansed dragon champions on our side:
    Glint IN the mist
    The Pale Tree on both sides
    Aurene outside of the mist

    They should be our angle. Brute force will just lead to failure.

  • Arden.7480Arden.7480 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2018
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    Kralkatorrik will be killed in Season Four. We'll deal with the aftermaths after the battle in Season 5- new minor villain appears. The 2nd part of Season 5 will be leading to our next major villain- one of the Elder Dragons.

    We'll most likely see Episode 5 and 6 yet.

    Episode 5- we will listen to Caithe, she will want us to see the Pale Tree that will share her wisdom and as usual give us hope- a Light in the Darkness. She will help us to find Aurene, she will make us feel what Aurene feels right now to better understand Aurene and her struggles inside her. Maybe even we will hear Aurene's voice in her mind.
    Rytlock will tell us the news about the state of the Mists- I think the news will lead to the evacuation from the Mists, because Kralkatorrik won't be stopped- his hunger won't be abated and he will devour most of the Mists. We will reach to Aurene in the end and with understanding fully Aurene's problems and her pain, we will move to kill Kralkatorrik. We will say something like: No matter what the vision showed us, we will fight. But at the same moment we'll get a message- the Gods are coming back.

    Episode 6- Kralkatorrik is creating a havoc all over Tyria, the Mists and is approaching the next world. The Gods realized they cannot ignore this, because if Kralkatorrik won't be stopped, he will devour the other worlds too- also the one that the Gods are preparing- this new Garden. So they will save not only the future of Tyria, but also the Universe. The Forgotten will return from the shadows, sharing their wisdom about the Elder Dragon Kralkatorrik, and tell what mistake they made during their attempt to "convert" Kralkatorrik so we won't commit it again.

    After an super epic dimensional battle, we will defeat Kralkatorrik, Aurene becomes the Elder Dragon, the Gods leave again, and Aurene will restore the Mists- giving away what Kralkatorrik consumed. The Ghosts will return to their rightful place, except...

    One of the ghosts will use this mess for her/his advantage- will this be somebody Ancient like Shiro? Or somebody that we know from Guild Wars 2? I don't know, but I'd not be surprised if the devs would go this way when we see that the Mists are in total mess, so there need to be somebody that will just use this moment to create the problems 2.0. (but it will be a problem for Season 5).

    (Gently waving at Scarlet :D )

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Im gonna super sad if they go that route @Arden.7480

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  • Arden.7480Arden.7480 Member ✭✭✭✭
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    @Dante.1763 said:
    Im gonna super sad if they go that route @Arden.7480

    Why? :O

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Arden.7480 said:

    @Dante.1763 said:
    Im gonna super sad if they go that route @Arden.7480

    Why? :O

    I was actually really happy that the gods left to create a new home for the human species because it showed they cared enough to want to have a home for their worshipers that was free of the things that could destroy them, having them come back would ruin feeling i think, on top of that im really tired of villians from the first game coming back, i want new villians.

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    @Dante.1763 said:
    on top of that im really tired of villians from the first game coming back, i want new villians.

    Well congrats, they're all dead and they died pitifully and in ways that was far beneath their worth at that.

  • Arden.7480Arden.7480 Member ✭✭✭✭
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    Does only WoW treat their villains in the best possible way? :D I mean even their minor villain are treated with respect, and noone of them was eaten by somebody.

    I was joking about Scarlet, though- it would feel very weird if she would return, but Shiro? I'd totally love that! +a reference from Cantha. If they EVEN go such a route I would love somebody powerful to return.

    About the Gods- after this pitiful Pof reference about them you just want them to disappear out of the picture? I mean... Fighting alongside the Gods in the biggest battle of the whole Guild Wars that involve even other world (as we found out in A Star to Guide Us), and the Gods won't appear? That would be the most wasted potential in the history. So I am just praying for the Gods to return even for a brief time. Imagine Kasmeer having the eternal hiccups. That'd be phenomenal!

    Making this battle look so dry that we just fight with our old allies, what we were doing since forever would be bad, pitifully bad. Also the vision silently foreshadowed that we and our team+the Pact will never win this fight, we need much more than that- we need the Gods more than ever.

    The Gods created this problem concerning the Elder Dragons not saying that we cannot defeat the Dragons as we like, so now they need to help us reverse everything what They, Glint and We have done.

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

    @Dante.1763 said:
    on top of that im really tired of villians from the first game coming back, i want new villians.

    Well congrats, they're all dead and they died pitifully and in ways that was far beneath their worth at that.

    I guess thats true, depends on what you thought they were worth to begin with, only one i wasnt very happy with was Lazarus.

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  • Other (Comment response)

    @Dante.1763 said:

    @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

    @Dante.1763 said:
    on top of that im really tired of villians from the first game coming back, i want new villians.

    Well congrats, they're all dead and they died pitifully and in ways that was far beneath their worth at that.

    I guess thats true, depends on what you thought they were worth to begin with, only one i wasnt very happy with was Lazarus.

    TBH, Menzies got the shortest stick. He apparently kicked the bucket off-screen, despite being a major villain in GW1 that never got revealed. But Dhuum also had a rather pathetic display. Joko was... okay, but IMO he deserved more. And Balthazar just shouldn't have been a villain at all (S3 and PoF would have made much more sense if it was Menzies we were fighting).

  • Teratus.2859Teratus.2859 Member ✭✭✭
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    I've made this prediction/theory in other posts but this is what I think might happen and hope happens.
    So stop reading if you don't want to know or be spoiled if I happen to be right about a few things.

    Living world 4
    We recover our forces and prepare to fight Kralkatorrik.
    Dragons Watch and our Elonian allies will be the bulk of our forces and we may recive some support from the Pact, but Aurine will refuse to fight.
    We decide to challenge Kralkatorrik anyway resulting in a massive defeat, Aurine will either flee to avoid the same fate as her mother causing this defeat or she will swoop in at the last second giving us the chance to cut our losses and escape.
    Broken and beaten we are left to consider our options.. regroup and launch another attack on the dragon which will likely end the same way or worse, or do the only thing we can accept that right now we are powerless to deal with Kralkatorrik and Aurine simply isn't ready or able to take him down.
    Given no choice our only option is to protect Aurine until she is old enough and powerful enough to stand against Kralkatorrik, until then we need to get her as far away from him as physically possible thus we decide to leave Tyria to the devastation of Kralkatorrik and escape across the ocean into Cantha.

    I have theories on what would then happen in Living world 5 and the next expansion but they are mostly based on my own love for that region, it's lore and how much potential there is for epic moments.
    In short the main story will be based around protecting and powering up Aurine and attempting to help Cantha deal with it's own problems, namely the sea dragon.
    Cantha will slowely open up with new maps during living world 5 as the story progresses and then the next expansion will potentially deliver a huge content dump adding several new maps and finishing up the story where we trap and defeat the Sea Dragon in the Jade Sea giving Aurine her final powerup and helping Kuunavang (and maybe Albax too) ascend and become new Elder Dragons.

    Living World 6 will then see us return to Tyria to find Kralkatorrik has caused utter devastation in his search for Aurine and the people of Tyria are not happy to see us, blaming us for all the destruction and death that we abandoned them to and calling for us to answer for it.
    Eventually we'll regain the trust of our allies and finally start organizing our final war on Kralkatorrik.

    Expansion 4.. Our Tyrian, Elonian and Canthan allies combine and with Aurine finally ready to overthrow Kralkatorrik and having the support of 2 Elder sea dragons we finally overpower and kill Kralkatorrik, Aurine finally ascends and replaces him and the last two Dragons rise once more.

    That's my predictions for what I hope and want content wise for the next few expansions and living world.

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

    @Dante.1763 said:

    @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

    @Dante.1763 said:
    on top of that im really tired of villians from the first game coming back, i want new villians.

    Well congrats, they're all dead and they died pitifully and in ways that was far beneath their worth at that.

    I guess thats true, depends on what you thought they were worth to begin with, only one i wasnt very happy with was Lazarus.

    TBH, Menzies got the shortest stick. He apparently kicked the bucket off-screen, despite being a major villain in GW1 that never got revealed. But Dhuum also had a rather pathetic display. Joko was... okay, but IMO he deserved more. And Balthazar just shouldn't have been a villain at all (S3 and PoF would have made much more sense if it was Menzies we were fighting).

    Wasnt aware Menzies was even mentioned in this game, never been able to do W5 so never will know what really happened to Dhuum(thank you anet for putting story behind stuff like raids /s.), I was for sure happy with the Joko ending, i was hoping he woulda died inbetween GW1 and 2 anyways, so when i found out he was going to be in this game i just groaned and when he died i was very happy, Balthazar pissed me off a little, but his ending, and how he was treated wasnt overly bad(wasnt great) i want to know who replaced him as the god of war though, thats the only thing that makes me annoyed now.

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    @Dante.1763 said:
    Wasnt aware Menzies was even mentioned in this game, never been able to do W5 so never will know what really happened to Dhuum(thank you anet for putting story behind stuff like raids /s.), I was for sure happy with the Joko ending, i was hoping he woulda died inbetween GW1 and 2 anyways, so when i found out he was going to be in this game i just groaned and when he died i was very happy, Balthazar pissed me off a little, but his ending, and how he was treated wasnt overly bad(wasnt great) i want to know who replaced him as the god of war though, thats the only thing that makes me annoyed now.

    Menzies isn't explicitly mentioned, but some of the lore surrounding the Herald of Balthazar aka Devona mentions that the Eternal Battle (aka the fight against Menzies) had ended sometime after her death. Since Menzies' goal was usurping Balthazar, unless the Six Gods pulled the dumbest move ever and allowed one of their greatest rivals to become the new god of war, that would mean Menzies was killed. Add on the fact that the devs stated in an AMA that one of the reasons Balthazar wanted to fight the Elder Dragons so badly was due to the lack of "a good fight" in ages, would indicate that Menzies was killed before Balthazar's revolt.

    Can't really agree with the rest you said about Joko and Balthazar.

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

    @Dante.1763 said:
    Wasnt aware Menzies was even mentioned in this game, never been able to do W5 so never will know what really happened to Dhuum(thank you anet for putting story behind stuff like raids /s.), I was for sure happy with the Joko ending, i was hoping he woulda died inbetween GW1 and 2 anyways, so when i found out he was going to be in this game i just groaned and when he died i was very happy, Balthazar pissed me off a little, but his ending, and how he was treated wasnt overly bad(wasnt great) i want to know who replaced him as the god of war though, thats the only thing that makes me annoyed now.

    Menzies isn't explicitly mentioned, but some of the lore surrounding the Herald of Balthazar aka Devona mentions that the Eternal Battle (aka the fight against Menzies) had ended sometime after her death. Since Menzies' goal was usurping Balthazar, unless the Six Gods pulled the dumbest move ever and allowed one of their greatest rivals to become the new god of war, that would mean Menzies was killed. Add on the fact that the devs stated in an AMA that one of the reasons Balthazar wanted to fight the Elder Dragons so badly was due to the lack of "a good fight" in ages, would indicate that Menzies was killed before Balthazar's revolt.

    Can't really agree with the rest you said about Joko and Balthazar.

    Huh, i never got the connection that the Herald was Devona, makes sense now that you mention it though, and the rest of what you said makes sense so ill run with it, though i do highly doubt theyd turn Menzies into the new god of war would be to idiotic.

    Im not really surprised you cant, i know quite a few people who dont, so i usually dont say anything.

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  • @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:
    Menzies isn't explicitly mentioned, but some of the lore surrounding the Herald of Balthazar aka Devona mentions that the Eternal Battle (aka the fight against Menzies) had ended sometime after her death. Since Menzies' goal was usurping Balthazar, unless the Six Gods pulled the dumbest move ever and allowed one of their greatest rivals to become the new god of war, that would mean Menzies was killed. Add on the fact that the devs stated in an AMA that one of the reasons Balthazar wanted to fight the Elder Dragons so badly was due to the lack of "a good fight" in ages, would indicate that Menzies was killed before Balthazar's revolt.

    Can't really agree with the rest you said about Joko and Balthazar.

    Do we have a ball park when Devona died? It seems like 50 years after GW1 a lot of things happen.

  • Kossage.9072Kossage.9072 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 5, 2018

    Given how Zojja was intended to appear in S4Ep2 as a damsel in distress before the rewrites, how Logan was mentioned in Ep4 ambient dialogue and how we saw some heavy references to Edge of Destiny lately, I hope it means we'll see a reunion of Destiny's Edge for one last hurrah as they aid us in the fight against Kralkatorrik alongside other allies from Tyria and the Mists. Not only would it be nice for Zojja to meet with Snaff but also for Logan to see Snaff and Glint as well as Aurene (so he can apologize to the two ghosts for not being there when they needed him, and to Aurene for losing her mom). Thanks to all the spirit shenanigans, it'd be nice to see Vlast return so we can have a proper dragon family reunion with him, Glint, Aurene and Kralky. It would be nice to hear Kralky actually speak, even if just for one or two lines, just to point out that he's not a force of nature but an intelligent, manipulative, selfish being as suggested in game and in the Edge of Destiny novel. ;)

    After Sandswept Isles introduced us to the intriguing villain Kuda (who is possibly the daughter of Kudu who in turn was both Zojja's archenemy and Snaff's first apprentice), I wonder if we'll see more Inquest involvement in S4 or if that's left until later. The fact that Kuda was continuing Kudu's research on controlled dragon minions (notably the crosscorrupted Subject Beta who was the successor of Subject Alpha, the notable enemy from Crucible of Eternity), it would be nice if part of the solution to the Kralky dilemma would be taking control over Branded or other dragon minions with Kuda and the late Brie's research (the latter being notable for subjugating Risen with specific devices as seen in Arah dungeon's mursaat path) to sic them on Kralky.

    Caithe's appearance in Ep4 might also lead to further solutions to dealing with Kralk, especially if the writers refer to the plot hook from the end of Edge of Destiny where she was shown gathering dragon blood from the Crystal Desert and searching for the secrets of the Elder Dragons. Just imagine her figuring out how to use these drops of blood as powerstones to try have someone mentally wrestle with Kralkatorrik as Snaff did:

    Caithe walked along the Dragonbrand—the wide swath of destruction laid down by Kralkatorrik. Every once in a while, she would bend down and pull a large green crystal from the sands.
    “Dragon blood,” she said, staring gladly at one such stone before sliding it into her pack.
    It was lonely work, wandering these desolate places, searching for the secrets of Kralkatorrik and the Elder Dragons. But it was even lonelier when she traveled to Hoelbrak or Rata Sum or Divinity’s Reach or the Black Citadel only to find that her onetime friends had become strangers.
    But they would be friends again. Someday, they would join her. Someday, they would fight the dragons again.
    Someday.

    A cool concept for the final battle would be us confronting Kralky in the Hall of Heroes in the center of the Rift (which itself is the center of the Mists and acts as a gateway to pretty much everything there is in the Mists, including the multiverse itself assuming that Ree Soesbee and Jeff Grubb's statements from GW2 China release about there being multiple alternate Tyrias in wvw's Mist War for resources to combat their own reality's Elder Dragons is still canonical). Based on Ree and Jeff's answer, all alternate Tyrias follow the same timeline with the same important NPCs (the only unique beings per Tyrian realm are player characters for unknown reasons), so by this point Kralkatorrik Prime and its alternate counterparts (from at least two alt Tyrias as seen in wvw; originally there were as many Tyrias as there were servers for wvw, but this explanation might change once the wvw alliance update goes live) should have entered their specific corner of the Mists by now. If all the Kralkatorriks find themselves headed for the Hall of Heroes (i.e. the very center of the multiverse from which they could spread their corruption wherever they want in the space/time continuum), theoretically they should become aware of one another's existence (and that there are multiple Tyrias, gods and other realms to consume in the multiverse).

    The somewhat destroyed Hall of Heroes already exists in GW2.dat as datamined by that_shaman (seen on Gw2wiki) but was scrapped during PoF development due to not having enough meaningful content for it according to Linsey Murdock (originally it was just a hub from which we would've accessed Kormir's Sanctum), so introducing it as a notable story instance would give the devs a reason to reimplement it in a new way (if they want to add some Branded crystal effects there). Imagine us entering the now darkened Hall of Heroes and witnessing some crystalline effects which show us glimpses of other Tyrias' Kralkatorriks flocking there as well while these alternate realms' Pact Commanders fight their respective Kralks. It would be great to actually hear lines from multiple player characters there for added creepy effect (so if I e.g. enter the instance as a male sylvari, I could hear female sylvari and male/female asura, charr, human and norn echoing from the other side to hammer the point home that we're not in Kansas anymore). If Kralk's gonna go out, let him go out with a boom by introducing folks to wvw lore in a big way with the multiverse reveal. :)

    Aside from seeing Mai Trin and Aetherblades return to finally give us an answer what exactly Scarlet sent her to the Mists for (and why she didn't return to aid Scarlet in the Battle for Lion's Arch), I would hope to see more past allies and villains appear, and us convincing them to join forces with us because Kralk threatens all reality and thus by extension them. This way we could see Alastia Crow's ominous words from human personal story's Kellach arc chapter "Speaker of the Dead" act as nice foreshadowing: "I know of you, Hero. Many of your foes walk now in the Mists. They speak of you with hatred and fear. Beware, lest you join them." Since those slain in the physical realm eventually end up in the Mists, it would be cool to reluctantly team up with e.g. the ghosts of Scarlet Briar, Kudu, Caudecus Beetlestone, Gaheron Baelfire and Lazarus even when we can't be sure if they try to backstab us later. Even better if we got some sort of bittersweet reconciliation scene between Scarlet and Omadd (the mentor she murdered; I wonder if Omadd would forgive Scarlet once he learned how Mordremoth kinda made her attack him) and perhaps see Taimi interacting with both of them for the circle to be complete (given how she was introduced in S1 as a Scarlet fangirl and used Omadd's machine to help us in later seasons).

    I would expect at least one or more notable deaths to take place before the end and for Blish's sacrifice to be final to emphasize the cost of war. Would Glint sacrifice her spirit to help defeat Kralk for good, or will anyone else fall prey to the Crystal Elder Dragon? Whatever ends up happening, I hope the writers give Kralkatorrik his due as a menace and characterize him as a malicious individual. He might be the most vile out of all the Elder Dragons given his history and he has such a crucial part in the building of GW2 story that he needs his time to shine and leave a big impact regardless of how his story ends. ;)

  • perilisk.1874perilisk.1874 Member ✭✭✭

    Hmm... wouldn't multiple Kraalkatoriks want to kill each other to become the true, final Kraalkatorik? Though obviously the last one standing would be taken out by Jet Li.

  • Logan and Zojja show up with the Pact, Destiny's Edge reunion with Eir and Snaff in the Mists, one last Hurrah for Destiny's Edge/Payback for their past failure.

    I predict something along this line as well, especially after Eir, Snaff, and Caithe's appearance in eps 4. I think DE being together again might be used as a pivotal point in having a better outcome in Aurene's foresight. As others said, it will allow DE to finally close their book and disband for good this time, thus allowing Dragon's Watch to assume their place as a symbol of united races in Tyria.

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