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Obtaining mastery points is tedious.

The content required to unlock then is some of the most boring content this game has to offer.
I can go into central tyria any more because masteries have locked my XP bar and now any thing I do there is just a waste.

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  • I don't know...are Spirit Shards that important? I get plenty without acquiring them through the XP bar; have thousands in the Wallet, yet rarely ever spend them. There's much more to acquire in Core Tyria, or any other region, than Spirit Shards; items, gear, mats, working on collections, map exploration, etc., etc. and most importantly...to me...enjoying the game, i.e. fun.

    Of course, ymmv.

  • DeanBB.4268DeanBB.4268 Member ✭✭✭

    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

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  • @DeanBB.4268 said:
    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

    I don't have enough points to unlock anything because the only ones lefts are spoon collecting and replaying stories to get achievements.

  • The problem is finding them. These mastery points can be in some of the oddest locations and then add to the fact that you will not know where to look for them unless you took the time to google them. Yes, I know googleing can help get you the info you need but the time one needs to take to do it makes it even more grindy and with only one monitor min the game screen to open my internet page and doing it back and forth not only becomes tedious but frustrating. I don't think it should be changed as I consider exploring fun but there are parts like this that makes me frustrated.

  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Gop.8713 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @DeanBB.4268 said:
    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

    I don't have enough points to unlock anything because the only ones lefts are spoon collecting and replaying stories to get achievements.

    There exist 32 more mastery points than are needed to unlock all of the tyrian masteries, unless I miscounted . . .

    There are 32 assuming you have LS2 unlocked but even without LS2 there are still 16 extras. The replaying story comment implies that OP does have LS2 unless they are referring the PS in which case they are simply wrong because replaying the PS does not give more points.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    I don't know...are Spirit Shards that important? I get plenty without acquiring them through the XP bar; have thousands in the Wallet, yet rarely ever spend them. There's much more to acquire in Core Tyria, or any other region, than Spirit Shards; items, gear, mats, working on collections, map exploration, etc., etc. and most importantly...to me...enjoying the game, i.e. fun.

    Of course, ymmv.

    For me, the shards ARE valuable. I build legendaries, and am still working on legendary WvW armor with which you need approximately 900 per set. Never mind the shards needed for clovers.

    Would be good if, like reward tracks, there was a different currency you could select, but as tomes if knowledge already give a level or a spirit shard, I guess it’s consistent.

  • @Rasimir.6239 said:

    @kapri.5918 said:
    These mastery points can be in some of the oddest locations and then add to the fact that you will not know where to look for them unless you took the time to google them.

    There's really no need to google. Just check your achievement log. Any category with a red mastery point symbol contains one (or more) open achievement that rewards a central Tyria mastery point. Sub-categories and the achievements themselves are marked with the same symbol.

    Or check the wiki if you really find the achievement description unclear. Most of them are pretty straight-forward, but there are a few that have an obscure description ;) .

    As a player who is still new that I still squeak when I move, as I hit 80 the depths to this game that has opened up is very daunting. Achievements do give me a more defined thing to do (and yes, I work on them little by little) I find myself doing multiple other things as well that may (do) take my attention away from them. But i was just referencing the stand alone mastery points nodes (similar to the heroic point ones) in my statement and not the other options to gain MP.

  • meh? I finally completed the masteries and was sad to have no more to pursue.

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  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @DeanBB.4268 said:
    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

    I don't have enough points to unlock anything because the only ones lefts are spoon collecting and replaying stories to get achievements.

    I have this same issue and I need another 15 points to unlock HoT legendary crafting..

    Only MPs I have left are collections like spoons n stuff..

    I regret maxing pact commander.

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    CLICK HERE FOR A FREE SCREEN CLEANING SERVICE
    I miss PvP....

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @DeanBB.4268 said:
    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

    I don't have enough points to unlock anything because the only ones lefts are spoon collecting and replaying stories to get achievements.

    I have this same issue and I need another 15 points to unlock HoT legendary crafting..

    Only MPs I have left are collections like spoons n stuff..

    I regret maxing pact commander.

    Uh, how do you not have enough to unlock and master everything...I unlocked all of them with the exception of the Raid one...and still have points leftover for both Core and HoT, and now the same with PoF.

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @DeanBB.4268 said:
    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

    I don't have enough points to unlock anything because the only ones lefts are spoon collecting and replaying stories to get achievements.

    I have this same issue and I need another 15 points to unlock HoT legendary crafting..

    Only MPs I have left are collections like spoons n stuff..

    I regret maxing pact commander.

    Uh, how do you not have enough to unlock and master everything...I unlocked all of them with the exception of the Raid one...and still have points leftover for both Core and HoT, and now the same with PoF.

    The problem isn't that there isn't enough, the problem is that is the content required for the few remaining makes me want to cough up blood.
    I don't want to go on an RNG spoon collecting spree.
    I don't want to speed all my money on skins I don't want/need.
    I don't want to repeat poor story content I've already done because it prevents interaction with other players in this mmo.

    This content is an absolute core and I feel I am actively punished for not grinding through the monotony.

    These mastery points are not rewarded for any meaningful content. you didn't get one because you made it to the next frac tier or killed all the world bosses at least once no you got it because you bought all the culture amour. wow.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @kapri.5918 said:

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    @kapri.5918 said:
    These mastery points can be in some of the oddest locations and then add to the fact that you will not know where to look for them unless you took the time to google them.

    There's really no need to google. Just check your achievement log. Any category with a red mastery point symbol contains one (or more) open achievement that rewards a central Tyria mastery point. Sub-categories and the achievements themselves are marked with the same symbol.

    Or check the wiki if you really find the achievement description unclear. Most of them are pretty straight-forward, but there are a few that have an obscure description ;) .

    As a player who is still new that I still squeak when I move, as I hit 80 the depths to this game that has opened up is very daunting. Achievements do give me a more defined thing to do (and yes, I work on them little by little) I find myself doing multiple other things as well that may (do) take my attention away from them. But i was just referencing the stand alone mastery points nodes (similar to the heroic point ones) in my statement and not the other options to gain MP.

    Well anet kitten every mp not just the attune ones that was added becouse people complain it was to few that dident cost tons of gold.

    So check around in your hero panel there are alot of mps around that you can work towards.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @DeanBB.4268 said:
    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

    I don't have enough points to unlock anything because the only ones lefts are spoon collecting and replaying stories to get achievements.

    I have this same issue and I need another 15 points to unlock HoT legendary crafting..

    Only MPs I have left are collections like spoons n stuff..

    I regret maxing pact commander.

    Pretty sure you got more then the cultural armor and spoon collection and amber collection left mate.

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mastery_point_unlocks

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @DeanBB.4268 said:
    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

    I don't have enough points to unlock anything because the only ones lefts are spoon collecting and replaying stories to get achievements.

    I have this same issue and I need another 15 points to unlock HoT legendary crafting..

    Only MPs I have left are collections like spoons n stuff..

    I regret maxing pact commander.

    Pretty sure you got more then the cultural armor and spoon collection and amber collection left mate.

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mastery_point_unlocks

    Like the other guy said about coughing up blood for collections...

    Also I finished my story when the game came out, do I need to endure the whole story again for some MPs?
    If I do, thats kitten... rather uninstall

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    CLICK HERE FOR A FREE SCREEN CLEANING SERVICE
    I miss PvP....

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @DeanBB.4268 said:
    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

    I don't have enough points to unlock anything because the only ones lefts are spoon collecting and replaying stories to get achievements.

    I have this same issue and I need another 15 points to unlock HoT legendary crafting..

    Only MPs I have left are collections like spoons n stuff..

    I regret maxing pact commander.

    Uh, how do you not have enough to unlock and master everything...I unlocked all of them with the exception of the Raid one...and still have points leftover for both Core and HoT, and now the same with PoF.

    The problem isn't that there isn't enough, the problem is that is the content required for the few remaining makes me want to cough up blood.
    I don't want to go on an RNG spoon collecting spree.
    I don't want to speed all my money on skins I don't want/need.
    I don't want to repeat poor story content I've already done because it prevents interaction with other players in this mmo.

    This content is an absolute core and I feel I am actively punished for not grinding through the monotony.

    These mastery points are not rewarded for any meaningful content. you didn't get one because you made it to the next frac tier or killed all the world bosses at least once no you got it because you bought all the culture amour. wow.

    I didn't do the spoon collection, actually missing one and I don't need that MP, didn't buy skins either and most likely didn't get the obscure ones from LS2(never have replayed a story to get a MP, ever, from any episode)...I still have a few leftover MP's just from all the core normal ones and the simple collections. Are you an original player(from launch)? If so when they introduced the Mastery system I practically had enough MP from that change(and obtained the few new ones introduced) to max all the Core Masteries.

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2018

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @DeanBB.4268 said:
    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

    I don't have enough points to unlock anything because the only ones lefts are spoon collecting and replaying stories to get achievements.

    I have this same issue and I need another 15 points to unlock HoT legendary crafting..

    Only MPs I have left are collections like spoons n stuff..

    I regret maxing pact commander.

    Pretty sure you got more then the cultural armor and spoon collection and amber collection left mate.

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mastery_point_unlocks

    Like the other guy said about coughing up blood for collections...

    Also I finished my story when the game came out, do I need to endure the whole story again for some MPs?
    If I do, thats kitten... rather uninstall

    Those count retroactivly you do have to kill tripple trubble wurm heads and karka queen again to get those mps tho.
    You sure you done all the fractal and jump puzzle diving google ones?
    Edit
    How about the go for gold in silverwaste or the 5 legendary bosses?

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2018

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @DeanBB.4268 said:
    It's just a frame of mind. At first I had the same type of thoughts, before I realized that XP just doesn't matter. Heck, on my core-only accounts, the XP bar fills and then... nothing. It just restarts. So you have to change how you think about XP since this is not like other (dare I say old-school?) games/D&D.

    So think of XP after level 80 just as a way of advancing the masteries. If you get stuck for a while and the XP "goes to waste" -- eh, whatever, it just doesn't matter since it has no practical value anyway.

    Do make sure to max the masteries that are available while you wait for enough points to unlock whichever one is next. That way once you gather enough mastery points you can get rewarded instantly and then move on to the next.

    I don't have enough points to unlock anything because the only ones lefts are spoon collecting and replaying stories to get achievements.

    I have this same issue and I need another 15 points to unlock HoT legendary crafting..

    Only MPs I have left are collections like spoons n stuff..

    I regret maxing pact commander.

    Pretty sure you got more then the cultural armor and spoon collection and amber collection left mate.

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mastery_point_unlocks

    Like the other guy said about coughing up blood for collections...

    Also I finished my story when the game came out, do I need to endure the whole story again for some MPs?
    If I do, thats kitten... rather uninstall

    Those count retroactivly you do have to kill tripple trubble wurm heads and karka queen again to get those mps tho.
    You sure you done all the fractal and jump puzzle diving google ones?
    Edit
    How about the go for gold in silverwaste or the 5 legendary bosses?

    Im a WvW/PvP player, I play what is fun.
    In saying that after 6 years and 9k hours played im still below below 10 for fractals, havent unlocked a silver map what ever that is and diving goggles might aswell be a spoon collection...

    Wheres the fun stuff? Totally agree with OP, I find it extremely tedious and instead of enduring that I will find another game or something else that IS fun instead

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    CLICK HERE FOR A FREE SCREEN CLEANING SERVICE
    I miss PvP....

  • Why is it spoon collecting is so hated? There's only 3 spoons that depend on RNG and they still drop more often than not when you need the collection, just hang out at the end of Tequatl and see all the spoons being pinged in chat.

    And why would a WvW/PvP player ever care about mastery points? They literally have no use for them.

  • @TopBadge.3569 said:
    The problem isn't that there isn't enough, the problem is that is the content required for the few remaining makes me want to cough up blood.

    Look again then. You can skip about 1/3. There are many points that require little time, especially some of the fractal ones (you just need someone willing to carry you if you don't want to learn the fractals, but since they can be done in Tier 1 that might not even be an issue).

    If your primary concern is spirit shards, in all sorts of ways. If your concern is "wasted XP," then (1) every one playing long enough ends up with wasted XP & (2) there was an entire year in which XP was wasted because the game didn't even reward spirit shards, whether or not you had maxed masteries. (And that period was longer for some players who didn't raid.)

    "With great power comes not-so-great utility bills."

  • Dreamy Lu.3865Dreamy Lu.3865 Member ✭✭✭

    As usual, one more thing that is a matter of taste. There are many different ways to collect mastery points, covering most of the activities. It means that for each of us, it is possible to do some we like, getting some fun, and aside of those, we then have to complete with those we don't like, meaning some work. Fair enough I think. Mastery points are supposed to be a challenge. Some are easier, but most of them need efforts. For me, that's part of the game. :)

    I'm out of my mind, feel free to leave a message...

  • HazyDaisy.4107HazyDaisy.4107 Member ✭✭✭

    I can't remember exactly what it was I used to spend all my spirit shards on each month, I think it was anthologies and such, but I do remember being shard broke every month. Fear not, just like mastery points, it'll pass and one day you'll find yourself with excess and nothing to spend them on.

    [HaHa] Hazardous Hallucination - Sorrows Furnace

  • Rasimir.6239Rasimir.6239 Member ✭✭✭

    @kapri.5918 said:

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    @kapri.5918 said:
    These mastery points can be in some of the oddest locations and then add to the fact that you will not know where to look for them unless you took the time to google them.

    There's really no need to google. Just check your achievement log. Any category with a red mastery point symbol contains one (or more) open achievement that rewards a central Tyria mastery point. Sub-categories and the achievements themselves are marked with the same symbol.

    Or check the wiki if you really find the achievement description unclear. Most of them are pretty straight-forward, but there are a few that have an obscure description ;) .

    As a player who is still new that I still squeak when I move, as I hit 80 the depths to this game that has opened up is very daunting. Achievements do give me a more defined thing to do (and yes, I work on them little by little) I find myself doing multiple other things as well that may (do) take my attention away from them. But i was just referencing the stand alone mastery points nodes (similar to the heroic point ones) in my statement and not the other options to gain MP.

    All of the "stand alone" mastery insights have achievements attached to them, too. Look for General -> Mastery Insights in your achievement log. Once you know what map to check, you should be able to find them on the world map in game.

  • Emprer.7256Emprer.7256 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2018

    This game practically throws mastery points at you especially post PoF. What mastery are you at and which ones are you finding tedious to obtain? You need to specify so people can help you. Also there are guides with video online to show you how you can get most of them, many of which don't require any sort of grinding.

    Edit: also when you reach level 80, it's not about getting exp. Exp doesn't mean much after that. Getting to level 80 is just the start of all the fun you can have so you might want to adjust the "wasted xp" mindset because games nowadays are not all about leveling anymore.

  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Emprer.7256 said:
    This game practically throws mastery points at you especially post PoF. What mastery are you at and which ones are you finding tedious to obtain? You need to specify so people can help you. Also there are guides with video online to show you how you can get most of them, many of which don't require any sort of grinding.

    Edit: also when you reach level 80, it's not about getting exp. Exp doesn't mean much after that. Getting to level 80 is just the start of all the fun you can have so you might want to adjust the "wasted xp" mindset because games nowadays are not all about leveling anymore.

    Well the OP is mentioning core Tyrian stuff but OP is also complaining about collections when there are only 7 which can all be skipped and I guess they don't want to do any of the other 9+ either ...

  • Dami.5046Dami.5046 Member ✭✭✭

    Got all mastery points bar raids, cos you know raids that I have no interest in, on main account.
    Now doing it on second account. Got all I need for PoF because they are easy as hell to get, working though PoF (still need 70 odd but got to do story as well) and will be stuck for ages on the tyrian ones because I won't be farming leggie weapons on that one.
    My point is, yes I am struggling at times to do points and find myself having to do a 'run' and get 5 or 6 on the go, but I won't be without gliding, I need to talk to the merchants because i'm an ascended armour freak and need recipes, and mounts to me are a necessity.
    I don't find them boring some are a challenge but it's a case of once bitten twice shy. I'd rather farm gear.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2018

    @DaFishBob.6518 said:
    Why is it spoon collecting is so hated? There's only 3 spoons that depend on RNG and they still drop more often than not when you need the collection, just hang out at the end of Tequatl and see all the spoons being pinged in chat.

    And why would a WvW/PvP player ever care about mastery points? They literally have no use for them.

    I thought I needed it for WvW autoloot but also because id be interested in crafting a gen 2 leg...

    Took me a while to see this comment, usually when people respond to someone they quote the person

    I want those MPs but to aquire them currently isnt my idea of fun and due to that and me being the sort of person to not like wasting my life on digital vanity grinds, I wont ever get to them.

    My 9k hours have been a blast mostly, I wont have to sit thier with regret wondering why I spent hours of my life over a single MP.

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    CLICK HERE FOR A FREE SCREEN CLEANING SERVICE
    I miss PvP....

  • ProtoGunner.4953ProtoGunner.4953 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2018

    MMOs are games that should entertain you for a long time. If you are impatient go play a mobile game. Besides that I never understood how people can't have max mastery (besides new players). Took me like 1-2 months to get max mastery in HoT.

  • These are the Central Tyria mastery points that I've done, and I've unlocked all the tracks all the way to the end, although with none left over, but none achieved in Fractals either:

    • Personal Story: 8
    • Tyrian Insights: 9
    • LS2 story-completion: 8 (just the basic episode completions)
    • Karkas in LA: 1
    • Go for the Gold and Retrospective Runaround in the Silverwastes: 2
    • Triple Trouble completed: 2 plus 3 from the Bosses category
    • Tequatl completed 2 plus 1 in the bosses category
    • Tormentor, Executioner and Annihilator in the Silverwastes 3
    • Ruler of Shinies in Dry Top (Skritt Queen) 1
    • Map completion 1
    • Reached level 80 = 1
    • Dive Master (Yes, I jumped all the way to the goggles in Not So Secret without a mesmer to help me. Go Staff Daredevil for this.) 1
    • Emperor's New Wardrobe (Cultural armour skin collection) 1
    • Hidden Garden JP 1
    • Karka Queen in Southsun Cove 1
    • Justice of the Blade (bandit bounty bosses in Central Tyria) 1
    • Transfer Chaser 1
    • Grand Artisan (ascended armour skin unlocks) 1
    • And that's it. I haven't finished Koutalophile because it requires a fractal-only spoon.

    @Biff.5312 said:
    Exercise your whimsy.

  • @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:
    The problem isn't that there isn't enough, the problem is that is the content required for the few remaining makes me want to cough up blood.

    Look again then. You can skip about 1/3. There are many points that require little time, especially some of the fractal ones (you just need someone willing to carry you if you don't want to learn the fractals, but since they can be done in Tier 1 that might not even be an issue).

    If your primary concern is spirit shards, in all sorts of ways. If your concern is "wasted XP," then (1) every one playing long enough ends up with wasted XP & (2) there was an entire year in which XP was wasted because the game didn't even reward spirit shards, whether or not you had maxed masteries. (And that period was longer for some players who didn't raid.)

    yes I know I have those ones already.

    there was an entire year in which XP was wasted because the game didn't even reward spirit shards, whether or not you had maxed masteries. (And that period was longer for some players who didn't raid.)

    What does this have to do with anything?

  • Rasimir.6239Rasimir.6239 Member ✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    I thought I needed it for WvW autoloot but also because id be interested in crafting a gen 2 leg...

    WvW autoloot is separate from PvE autoloot. You have to train the WvW provisions master ability to rank 4 to gain the autoloot ability in WvW.

    You do need the PvE legendary crafting mastery trained all the way to craft gen2 legendaries (although precursar crafting can be started as soon as you have trained the first rank). If it's one of the earliest four weapons you are after (axe, staff, pistol, shortbow), be prepared for some really extensive collections though.

  • @TopBadge.3569 said:
    yes I know I have those ones already.

    If you did, you'd be maxed.

    there was an entire year in which XP was wasted because the game didn't even reward spirit shards, whether or not you had maxed masteries. (And that period was longer for some players who didn't raid.)

    What does this have to do with anything?

    You're claiming that somehow you're locked out of something significant; you're not. The entire community got nothing from XP for a year, without it being a major issue, because shards drop from other sources.

    "With great power comes not-so-great utility bills."

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    I thought I needed it for WvW autoloot but also because id be interested in crafting a gen 2 leg...

    WvW autoloot is separate from PvE autoloot. You have to train the WvW provisions master ability to rank 4 to gain the autoloot ability in WvW.

    You do need the PvE legendary crafting mastery trained all the way to craft gen2 legendaries (although precursar crafting can be started as soon as you have trained the first rank). If it's one of the earliest four weapons you are after (axe, staff, pistol, shortbow), be prepared for some really extensive collections though.

    Yea I implied that when I said I thought I needed it but a friend new to the game just got his ipos within 3 weeks and now im sorta keen to get one too but I can also go without..

    I welcome more MPs especially if they are tied to PvP or WvW

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  • @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:
    yes I know I have those ones already.

    If you did, you'd be maxed.

    there was an entire year in which XP was wasted because the game didn't even reward spirit shards, whether or not you had maxed masteries. (And that period was longer for some players who didn't raid.)

    What does this have to do with anything?

    You're claiming that somehow you're locked out of something significant; you're not. The entire community got nothing from XP for a year, without it being a major issue, because shards drop from other sources.

    I have and you're wrong so...

    And this argument that my issue doesn't matter because people in the past also suffered it just ridiculous.

  • @TopBadge.3569 said:

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @TopBadge.3569 said:
    yes I know I have those ones already.

    If you did, you'd be maxed.

    there was an entire year in which XP was wasted because the game didn't even reward spirit shards, whether or not you had maxed masteries. (And that period was longer for some players who didn't raid.)

    What does this have to do with anything?

    You're claiming that somehow you're locked out of something significant; you're not. The entire community got nothing from XP for a year, without it being a major issue, because shards drop from other sources.

    I have and you're wrong so...

    And this argument that my issue doesn't matter because people in the past also suffered it just ridiculous.

    It's not about people suffering, it's that the "reward" of Spirit Shards for XP after finishing masteries is an almost totally insignificant reward! It's a super minor perc. Especially for a WvW player, as WvW gives bonkers amount of Tomes of Knowledge, which can be used to gain Spirit Shards.

  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I guess I am getting old. Took this long to realize this has all the hallmarks of a troll and I don't mean the "do something stupid then claim they were only trolling" variety.

  • @Khisanth.2948 said:
    I guess I am getting old. Took this long to realize this has all the hallmarks of a troll and I don't mean the "do something stupid then claim they were only trolling" variety.

    "Anyone I disagree with is a troll"

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