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Rune Of Sanc Is Busted

Trigr.6481Trigr.6481 Member ✭✭✭

"Gain a barrier with health equal to 20% of any heals you receive"

This is broken because of the following

  • This works in downstate, meaning that the barrier is multiplied based on how many people are ressing you. So technically it's going to be near impossible to dps out a target that has this rune equipped.

  • This also works with Signet Of Mercy, meaning that if a downed target gets ressed with Rune Of Sanc they literally get max barrier.

So it's needless to say that this is a huge oversight and needs to be tuned accordingly. And the only way to make it happen is by making this public knowledge. Enjoy it while you can I guess.

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  • MyPuppy.8970MyPuppy.8970 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Please let me try it first! I won't be able to play for the next two weeks though...

  • mrauls.6519mrauls.6519 Member ✭✭✭

    Rune of the Defender, Speed and Sanctuary may all need to be nerfed ASAP

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  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    To me it kinda read like an overheal mechanic. The stats aren't very desirable, but I can see some commanders run this especially.

    Very passive aggressively chuckling, because I'm totally not mad on the Internet.

  • Tiah.3091Tiah.3091 Member ✭✭✭

    After reading the whole list of changes, my only reaction was "WHAT THE ACTUAL kitten".
    It looks like as if they invited a guy from diablo3 balancing team to design those changes.

  • Koen.1327Koen.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    this is absolutely broken on a scourge with abrasive grit

  • so are all the sigil & rune changes in effect for spvp too? I can't check in game right now, but if they are (it sounds like they are and I only saw a single sigil split for sPvP) I don't know what to say. I can find so many broken runes on certain builds for sPvP, and season starts today too lol what a joke.

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Probably an oversight and will be changed soon enough at least

    Very passive aggressively chuckling, because I'm totally not mad on the Internet.

  • Master Ketsu.4569Master Ketsu.4569 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Just tested it and it even procs off passives. It's basically +20% healing received. Even without traits that exploit barrier that's pretty strong and since it also includes boon duration it just made every bunker build +20% harder to kill.

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I got to admit..In the sustain & heals & regens department.. Some classes i wont mention is kinda broken. Espacially cuz they can dish out lots of damage in a 2 seconds.

    Winter Nerf is coming!

  • @mrauls.6519 said:
    Rune of the Defender, Speed and Sanctuary may all need to be nerfed ASAP

    wait you think rune of the defender is OP? It was nerfed lol. It used to heal for 5k on block with 30 sec cd with no heal power. Now it heals for 1k on a 20K hp player with 1 sec ICD but you need to have 5 blocks available in a 30 sec window to be the same as it was before. Plus you lost the 2 sec of regen on every block with no ICD.

  • mrauls.6519mrauls.6519 Member ✭✭✭

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @mrauls.6519 said:
    Rune of the Defender, Speed and Sanctuary may all need to be nerfed ASAP

    wait you think rune of the defender is OP? It was nerfed lol. It used to heal for 5k on block with 30 sec cd with no heal power. Now it heals for 1k on a 20K hp player with 1 sec ICD but you need to have 5 blocks available in a 30 sec window to be the same as it was before. Plus you lost the 2 sec of regen on every block with no ICD.

    It's going to be easy for players to heal if they're surrounded by classes like FB spamming aegis. I think it'll be an issue in WvW

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  • Patrick.2987Patrick.2987 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2018

    condi clear and 2 might on every hit as scourge is totally intended. axe 2 clears 8 condis and grants 16 might, not too bad. doesn't matter in a dead game tho.

  • incisorr.9502incisorr.9502 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2018

    im not really sure why isnt this getting hotfixed yet ?

    It procs on every hit from a blood necro which constantly removes conditions and gives might

    this whole rune looks like an actual exploit

  • Lol this is fun though. Bout time Condi had a hardcounter

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @mrauls.6519 said:
    Rune of the Defender, Speed and Sanctuary may all need to be nerfed ASAP

    wait you think rune of the defender is OP? It was nerfed lol. It used to heal for 5k on block with 30 sec cd with no heal power. Now it heals for 1k on a 20K hp player with 1 sec ICD but you need to have 5 blocks available in a 30 sec window to be the same as it was before. Plus you lost the 2 sec of regen on every block with no ICD.

    In WvW you step into a few circles to full heal while blocking, that's why.

    Very passive aggressively chuckling, because I'm totally not mad on the Internet.

  • incisorr.9502incisorr.9502 Member ✭✭✭

    @JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:
    Lol this is fun though. Bout time Condi had a hardcounter

    there literally are 9:1 power to condi builds on higher elo/plat 3 and you want condi to get hard countered? how bout l2p instead breaking the game with some dumb " bugs"

  • @incisorr.9502 said:
    im not really sure why isnt this getting hotfixed yet ?

    It procs on every hit from a blood necro which constantly removes conditions and gives might

    this whole rune looks like an actual exploit

    You know what would get an instant hotfix? :p

    Someone does 10 blood scourge full wing clears with runes of sanctuary.
    Its probably quite easy for any pug group with the ressing health, condi cleanse with perma 25 might. Probably need 1 chrono for quickness/alacrity though.

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  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2018

    scourge
    fix it george

    go in there like today and disable this rune.

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  • Flumek.9043Flumek.9043 Member ✭✭✭

    @incisorr.9502 said:

    @JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:
    Lol this is fun though. Bout time Condi had a hardcounter

    there literally are 9:1 power to condi builds on higher elo/plat 3 and you want condi to get hard countered? how bout l2p instead breaking the game with some dumb " bugs"

    Condi hasnt been "condi" since 2015.

    Theyre both "burst" , only condi is more lame to play against.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2018

    this rune should be +30% barrier strength instead or something like that.

    @mrauls.6519 said:
    Rune of the Defender, Speed and Sanctuary may all need to be nerfed ASAP

    don't forget rune of vampirism, altho its bugged right now.

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Put a minimum heal threshold on the run of say 500 so it doesn't proc off life steal and stuff. Prevent it working while downed if possible, if not then slap a 1s ICD maybe but I hate ICDs

  • incisorr.9502incisorr.9502 Member ✭✭✭

    @Flumek.9043 said:

    @incisorr.9502 said:

    @JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:
    Lol this is fun though. Bout time Condi had a hardcounter

    there literally are 9:1 power to condi builds on higher elo/plat 3 and you want condi to get hard countered? how bout l2p instead breaking the game with some dumb " bugs"

    Condi hasnt been "condi" since 2015.

    Theyre both "burst" , only condi is more lame to play against.

    yea having 1-2 seconds to react to use condi removal is more lame against getting 1shot out of stealth in an instant.. right

    get real, like i said 9:1 power to condi in high elo and that's not cause people are "honorable" but cause condi is garbage compared to power right now

  • this rune is broken it doesnt heal on all heals....it doesnt heal on passive heals and other proc'd regens......it doesnt heal on signet of renewal either....i only receive barrier on skills that i activate and get heals from

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 27, 2018

    @oshi.3160 said:
    this rune is broken it doesnt heal on all heals....it doesnt heal on passive heals and other proc'd regens......it doesnt heal on signet of renewal either....i only receive barrier on skills that i activate and get heals from

    it runs off AH just fine?

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  • @incisorr.9502 said:

    @Flumek.9043 said:

    @incisorr.9502 said:

    @JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:
    Lol this is fun though. Bout time Condi had a hardcounter

    there literally are 9:1 power to condi builds on higher elo/plat 3 and you want condi to get hard countered? how bout l2p instead breaking the game with some dumb " bugs"

    Condi hasnt been "condi" since 2015.

    Theyre both "burst" , only condi is more lame to play against.

    yea having 1-2 seconds to react to use condi removal is more lame against getting 1shot out of stealth in an instant.. right

    get real, like i said 9:1 power to condi in high elo and that's not cause people are "honorable" but cause condi is garbage compared to power right now

    You trolling as always 🙄

  • Virelion.4128Virelion.4128 Member ✭✭✭

    @Babylonn.5027 said:

    @incisorr.9502 said:

    @Flumek.9043 said:

    @incisorr.9502 said:

    @JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:
    Lol this is fun though. Bout time Condi had a hardcounter

    there literally are 9:1 power to condi builds on higher elo/plat 3 and you want condi to get hard countered? how bout l2p instead breaking the game with some dumb " bugs"

    Condi hasnt been "condi" since 2015.

    Theyre both "burst" , only condi is more lame to play against.

    yea having 1-2 seconds to react to use condi removal is more lame against getting 1shot out of stealth in an instant.. right

    get real, like i said 9:1 power to condi in high elo and that's not cause people are "honorable" but cause condi is garbage compared to power right now

    You trolling as always 🙄

    He is not trolling at all, currently condi is just subpar damage dealing mechanic.
    It is just so much easier to blow target up in fraction of the second than wait for 3 sec for target to "maybe" collapse under condi burst combo.

  • Yannir.4132Yannir.4132 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @oshi.3160 said:
    this rune is broken it doesnt heal on all heals....it doesnt heal on passive heals and other proc'd regens......it doesnt heal on signet of renewal either....i only receive barrier on skills that i activate and get heals from

    it runs off AH just fine?

    You mean Adrenal Health or Altruistic Healing?

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Yannir.4132 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @oshi.3160 said:
    this rune is broken it doesnt heal on all heals....it doesnt heal on passive heals and other proc'd regens......it doesnt heal on signet of renewal either....i only receive barrier on skills that i activate and get heals from

    it runs off AH just fine?

    You mean Adrenal Health or Altruistic Healing?

    Altruistic Healing...
    Also runs off the Necro traits Blighters boons and the vampiric aura and gs health regain and all that jazz stacked up

    Not sure what he means to be honest

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  • Chaith.8256Chaith.8256 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 27, 2018

    All heal over times with durations do not proc Sanctuary Runes.

    All heals considered by the game to be a stand alone heal, (including every individual lifesteal and tiny heal procs from traits) will proc Sanctuary Rune with a few exceptions I've noticed.

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  • @Chaith.8256 said:
    All heal over times with durations do not proc Sanctuary Runes.

    All heals considered by the game to be a stand alone heal, (including every individual lifesteal and tiny heal procs from traits) will proc Sanctuary Rune with a few exceptions I've noticed.

    Holo Vent Exhaust doesn't proc sanctuary runes i hear?

  • Superior Rune of Sanctuary: The barrier gained from this rune is now granted by the healer.

    anyone know what this latest patch did to the rune?

  • Aktium.9506Aktium.9506 Member ✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    Superior Rune of Sanctuary: The barrier gained from this rune is now granted by the healer.

    anyone know what this latest patch did to the rune?

    exactly what it says on the tin

    if someone were to heal a necro so that they got a barrier from the rune abrasive grit won't proc

    and vice versa, if you used a heal such as life from death and someone gets a barrier from the heal it will proc abrasive grit

  • Chaith.8256Chaith.8256 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @Chaith.8256 said:
    All heal over times with durations do not proc Sanctuary Runes.

    All heals considered by the game to be a stand alone heal, (including every individual lifesteal and tiny heal procs from traits) will proc Sanctuary Rune with a few exceptions I've noticed.

    Holo Vent Exhaust doesn't proc sanctuary runes i hear?

    That's because Vent Exhaust is not a heal. Vent Exhaust procs Heat Therapy - that's deemed to be a heal over time similar to adrenal health.

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  • @Chaith.8256 said:

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @Chaith.8256 said:
    All heal over times with durations do not proc Sanctuary Runes.

    All heals considered by the game to be a stand alone heal, (including every individual lifesteal and tiny heal procs from traits) will proc Sanctuary Rune with a few exceptions I've noticed.

    Holo Vent Exhaust doesn't proc sanctuary runes i hear?

    That's because Vent Exhaust is not a heal. Vent Exhaust procs Heat Therapy - that's deemed to be a heal over time similar to adrenal health.

    Ahh because heat therapy heals as you lose heat and you lose heat over time. I see. thanks

  • Durzlla.6295Durzlla.6295 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Aktium.9506 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    Superior Rune of Sanctuary: The barrier gained from this rune is now granted by the healer.

    anyone know what this latest patch did to the rune?

    exactly what it says on the tin

    if someone were to heal a necro so that they got a barrier from the rune abrasive grit won't proc

    and vice versa, if you used a heal such as life from death and someone gets a barrier from the heal it will proc abrasive grit

    Additionally, if you’re a Druid in menders and some random zerker guard gives you regen or some other random healing you will not gain barrier based on YOUR healing power, it’ll be based on that other guys.

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  • mortrialus.3062mortrialus.3062 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Babylonn.5027 said:

    @incisorr.9502 said:

    @Flumek.9043 said:

    @incisorr.9502 said:

    @JusticeRetroHunter.7684 said:
    Lol this is fun though. Bout time Condi had a hardcounter

    there literally are 9:1 power to condi builds on higher elo/plat 3 and you want condi to get hard countered? how bout l2p instead breaking the game with some dumb " bugs"

    Condi hasnt been "condi" since 2015.

    Theyre both "burst" , only condi is more lame to play against.

    yea having 1-2 seconds to react to use condi removal is more lame against getting 1shot out of stealth in an instant.. right

    get real, like i said 9:1 power to condi in high elo and that's not cause people are "honorable" but cause condi is garbage compared to power right now

    You trolling as always 🙄

    Condition cleanses and conversion into boons are both extremely overtuned at this point. Most classes can quickly throw off 3-7+ conditions repeatedly over the course of a fight, or have strong resistance uptime. Scourge and Mirage are the only condition classes capable of keeping up not because their condition damage is high (It's not. Scourge and Mirage are actually some of the lowest condition damage available) but because they have a wide range of conditions (Or in Scourge's case a wide range of conditions and boon corruption) that gives their conditions a chance to dodge condition cleanses entirely. And even then there is no shortage of Power Mirage and absolutely no shortage Power Reaper who have pulled ahead of Scourge at least in ranked queue.

    Condition damage has completely fallen behind Power Damage in the scheme of things. Condition Berserker, Condition Firebrand, Condition Weaver, and Condition Holosmith have the higher condition bursts. Far, far beyond what Condition Mirage and Scourge are capable of. But even putting aside other weaknesses in those builds, the single biggest weakness that prevents them from ever becoming meta is the fact that when every class can effortlessly throw off 5+ conditions multiple times a fight, the bulk of their damage being tied down into one or two conditions means their effective damage output is zero.

    Arenanet really needs to look at both normalizing the spread of conditions, balancing all classes around 2-3 damaging conditions. And also heavily pulling back condition cleanses to compensate for it.

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  • @mortrialus.3062 said:
    Condition Holosmith have the higher condition bursts. Far, far beyond what Condition Mirage and Scourge are capable of.

    LOLOLOLOLOL this made my day.....if anything was going to prove you're trolling, this is it.

  • @Aktium.9506 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    Superior Rune of Sanctuary: The barrier gained from this rune is now granted by the healer.

    anyone know what this latest patch did to the rune?

    exactly what it says on the tin

    if someone were to heal a necro so that they got a barrier from the rune abrasive grit won't proc

    and vice versa, if you used a heal such as life from death and someone gets a barrier from the heal it will proc abrasive grit

    I don't know why youre bringing abrasive grit into this scenario its only confusing things.

    @Durzlla.6295 said:

    @Aktium.9506 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    Superior Rune of Sanctuary: The barrier gained from this rune is now granted by the healer.

    anyone know what this latest patch did to the rune?

    exactly what it says on the tin

    if someone were to heal a necro so that they got a barrier from the rune abrasive grit won't proc

    and vice versa, if you used a heal such as life from death and someone gets a barrier from the heal it will proc abrasive grit

    Additionally, if you’re a Druid in menders and some random zerker guard gives you regen or some other random healing you will not gain barrier based on YOUR healing power, it’ll be based on that other guys.

    that makes sense.

  • Chaith.8256Chaith.8256 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:

    @Aktium.9506 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    Superior Rune of Sanctuary: The barrier gained from this rune is now granted by the healer.

    anyone know what this latest patch did to the rune?

    exactly what it says on the tin

    if someone were to heal a necro so that they got a barrier from the rune abrasive grit won't proc

    and vice versa, if you used a heal such as life from death and someone gets a barrier from the heal it will proc abrasive grit

    I don't know why youre bringing abrasive grit into this scenario its only confusing things.

    @Durzlla.6295 said:

    @Aktium.9506 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    Superior Rune of Sanctuary: The barrier gained from this rune is now granted by the healer.

    anyone know what this latest patch did to the rune?

    exactly what it says on the tin

    if someone were to heal a necro so that they got a barrier from the rune abrasive grit won't proc

    and vice versa, if you used a heal such as life from death and someone gets a barrier from the heal it will proc abrasive grit

    Additionally, if you’re a Druid in menders and some random zerker guard gives you regen or some other random healing you will not gain barrier based on YOUR healing power, it’ll be based on that other guys.

    that makes sense.

    He mentioned abrasive grit because that's a trait where it matters WHO is applying the barrier. The rune now counts the rune user as the owner of the barrier.

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  • mortrialus.3062mortrialus.3062 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 27, 2018

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @mortrialus.3062 said:
    Condition Holosmith have the higher condition bursts. Far, far beyond what Condition Mirage and Scourge are capable of.

    LOLOLOLOLOL this made my day.....if anything was going to prove you're trolling, this is it.

    It's literally mathematically true. Condition Holosmith does more condi damage than Condition Mirage on numbers alone. It's ability to deliver this damage isn't viable, but again, even if the delivery was viable the 35 stacks of burning dumped on a target will get cleansed and you're done.

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  • @Chaith.8256 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:

    @Aktium.9506 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    Superior Rune of Sanctuary: The barrier gained from this rune is now granted by the healer.

    anyone know what this latest patch did to the rune?

    exactly what it says on the tin

    if someone were to heal a necro so that they got a barrier from the rune abrasive grit won't proc

    and vice versa, if you used a heal such as life from death and someone gets a barrier from the heal it will proc abrasive grit

    I don't know why youre bringing abrasive grit into this scenario its only confusing things.

    @Durzlla.6295 said:

    @Aktium.9506 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    Superior Rune of Sanctuary: The barrier gained from this rune is now granted by the healer.

    anyone know what this latest patch did to the rune?

    exactly what it says on the tin

    if someone were to heal a necro so that they got a barrier from the rune abrasive grit won't proc

    and vice versa, if you used a heal such as life from death and someone gets a barrier from the heal it will proc abrasive grit

    Additionally, if you’re a Druid in menders and some random zerker guard gives you regen or some other random healing you will not gain barrier based on YOUR healing power, it’ll be based on that other guys.

    that makes sense.

    He mentioned abrasive grit because that's a trait where it matters WHO is applying the barrier. The rune now counts the rune user as the owner of the barrier.

    oh lol. many learns. thanks man.

  • Eddbopkins.2630Eddbopkins.2630 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 27, 2018

    @Trigr.6481 said:
    "Gain a barrier with health equal to 20% of any heals you receive"

    This is broken because of the following

    • This works in downstate, meaning that the barrier is multiplied based on how many people are ressing you. So technically it's going to be near impossible to dps out a target that has this rune equipped.

    • This also works with Signet Of Mercy, meaning that if a downed target gets ressed with Rune Of Sanc they literally get max barrier.

    So it's needless to say that this is a huge oversight and needs to be tuned accordingly. And the only way to make it happen is by making this public knowledge. Enjoy it while you can I guess.

    Countless

    Its been a couple of days since then. Has this been changed/fixed yet?

    Or ia this not really a problem.

  • Chaith.8256Chaith.8256 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @mortrialus.3062 said:

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @mortrialus.3062 said:
    Condition Holosmith have the higher condition bursts. Far, far beyond what Condition Mirage and Scourge are capable of.

    LOLOLOLOLOL this made my day.....if anything was going to prove you're trolling, this is it.

    It's literally mathematically true. Condition Holosmith does more condi damage than Condition Mirage on numbers alone. It's ability to deliver this damage isn't viable, but again, even if the delivery was viable the 35 stacks of burning dumped on a target will get cleansed and you're done.

    Uhh how are you quantifying how much damage confusion is doing on average? It depends on skill usage of the victim. I think your Condi Holo vs. Mirage comparison is disingenuous at best and utterly wrong at worst.

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  • mortrialus.3062mortrialus.3062 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 28, 2018

    @Chaith.8256 said:

    @mortrialus.3062 said:

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @mortrialus.3062 said:
    Condition Holosmith have the higher condition bursts. Far, far beyond what Condition Mirage and Scourge are capable of.

    LOLOLOLOLOL this made my day.....if anything was going to prove you're trolling, this is it.

    It's literally mathematically true. Condition Holosmith does more condi damage than Condition Mirage on numbers alone. It's ability to deliver this damage isn't viable, but again, even if the delivery was viable the 35 stacks of burning dumped on a target will get cleansed and you're done.

    Uhh how are you quantifying how much damage confusion is doing on average? It depends on skill usage of the victim. I think your Condi Holo vs. Mirage comparison is disingenuous at best and utterly wrong at worst.

    A skill use every second on confusion.

    Condi holo still has higher theoretical burst. It's just almost all of it is just burning whereas condition Mirage has a three times wider spread of damaging conditions and cover conditions to boot.

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  • santso.9201santso.9201 Member ✭✭✭

    Not to mention that condi holo is squishy af because it actually needs to take dps traitline to do dmg unlike Power holo who gets carried by holomode raw power dmg...

  • @mortrialus.3062 said:

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @mortrialus.3062 said:
    Condition Holosmith have the higher condition bursts. Far, far beyond what Condition Mirage and Scourge are capable of.

    LOLOLOLOLOL this made my day.....if anything was going to prove you're trolling, this is it.

    It's literally mathematically true. Condition Holosmith does more condi damage than Condition Mirage on numbers alone. It's ability to deliver this damage isn't viable, but again, even if the delivery was viable the 35 stacks of burning dumped on a target will get cleansed and you're done.

    i can't even.....

    now we're talking theoretical stuff that no one and i mean no one is ever...EVER gonna play? stop already!

    sheesh.

  • mortrialus.3062mortrialus.3062 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @mortrialus.3062 said:

    @Spartacus.3192 said:

    @mortrialus.3062 said:
    Condition Holosmith have the higher condition bursts. Far, far beyond what Condition Mirage and Scourge are capable of.

    LOLOLOLOLOL this made my day.....if anything was going to prove you're trolling, this is it.

    It's literally mathematically true. Condition Holosmith does more condi damage than Condition Mirage on numbers alone. It's ability to deliver this damage isn't viable, but again, even if the delivery was viable the 35 stacks of burning dumped on a target will get cleansed and you're done.

    i can't even.....

    now we're talking theoretical stuff that no one and i mean no one is ever...EVER gonna play? stop already!

    sheesh.

    We're talking about why condi is weak on classes other than Mirage and Scourge. I pointed out that several classes have plenty of condi damage, scourge and mirage are actually on the lowest end of the spectrum, but even if things like Condi Holo and Berserker's over reliance on fields were solved, stuff like Condi Holo and Condi Firebrand are too heavily reliant on one condition and condition cleanses are overtuned.

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