Borg Queen X.9524 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 In my opinion its unfair if a player targets a mesmer, and doesn't have to think about his clones anymore, because with call target he will always know where the real mesmer is.In my opinion stealth should break the target, and the arrow should also move to clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteepledHat.1345 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Stealth does break the target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodesh.2851 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Also if you're in a match and constantly using call target on a mesmer to win a 1v1 on a side node your team might rightly get annoyed if they're in a team fight mid and their target keeps changing. I main mes, it's not a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meri.9187 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Mirage also has the ability to break enemy targeting without stealth...Axe 3? Illusionary Ambush? Mirage Retreat?Even the best players still have a small reaction delay when a mirage uses one of these skills, no matter how good they are at identifying the real one (which, yes, can be a little annoying when 3 clones and the mesmer port to a random place around you and you also have to dodge the skill to avoid getting 10 stacks of confusion instantly).Mesmer is still strong and extremely oppressive, moving the target arrow to clones would make fighting against a mesmer completely unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyreborn.1938 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 @"ventusthunder.5067" said:Mirage also has the ability to break enemy targeting without stealth...Axe 3? Illusionary Ambush? Mirage Retreat?Out of those 3 only real target break mesmers use is axe 3 . Ofc you can see memers w/o portal and IAmbush but no retreat because its not really good . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 @tinyreborn.1938 said:@"ventusthunder.5067" said:Mirage also has the ability to break enemy targeting without stealth...Axe 3? Illusionary Ambush? Mirage Retreat?Out of those 3 only real target break mesmers use is axe 3 . Ofc you can see memers w/o portal and IAmbush but no retreat because its not really good .It's still extremely spammable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyreborn.1938 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"ventusthunder.5067" said:Mirage also has the ability to break enemy targeting without stealth...Axe 3? Illusionary Ambush? Mirage Retreat?Out of those 3 only real target break mesmers use is axe 3 . Ofc you can see memers w/o portal and IAmbush but no retreat because its not really good .It's still extremely spammable.Are you talking about thief with his evades or mesmer ? I'm lost for a secondIf 10 seconds is extremely spammable skill what we should do about holo leap 2s cd,corona burst 6s cd hit TWICE that must be dodged and all skills that have same/lower cd?May be you are right and all skills should get way higher cooldowns . Not just weapon and profession skill only but every single elite and utility .;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg Queen X.9524 Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 @"ventusthunder.5067" said:Mirage also has the ability to break enemy targeting without stealth...Axe 3? Illusionary Ambush? Mirage Retreat?Even the best players still have a small reaction delay when a mirage uses one of these skills, no matter how good they are at identifying the real one (which, yes, can be a little annoying when 3 clones and the mesmer port to a random place around you and you also have to dodge the skill to avoid getting 10 stacks of confusion instantly).Mesmer is still strong and extremely oppressive, moving the target arrow to clones would make fighting against a mesmer completely unplayable.Im not asking to move the target arrow but to copy it over, like clones are also copy's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmSole.2098 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Targeting the real mesmer is the counter play to clone spam.... this post should be deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg Queen X.9524 Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 @dagger dave.5201 said:Targeting the real mesmer is the counter play to clone spam.... this post should be deleted The mesmer is a class/profession made to elude and confuse enemys. It's quite unique in the MMO world. But when clones do not matter so much because the real mesmer can alot of times be targetted, this kind of destroys the idea about mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmSole.2098 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 @Borg Queen X.9524 said:@dagger dave.5201 said:Targeting the real mesmer is the counter play to clone spam.... this post should be deleted The mesmer is a class/profession made to elude and confuse enemys. It's quite unique in the MMO world. But when clones do not matter so much because the real mesmer can alot of times be targetted, this kind of destroys the idea about mesmer.Not being able to target a mesmer is a ridiculous idea lol... they have ways of losing target anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malafaia.8903 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 real problem on mesmers is axe #3that target breaking is too spammable for it's OPness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 @tinyreborn.1938 said:@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"ventusthunder.5067" said:Mirage also has the ability to break enemy targeting without stealth...Axe 3? Illusionary Ambush? Mirage Retreat?Out of those 3 only real target break mesmers use is axe 3 . Ofc you can see memers w/o portal and IAmbush but no retreat because its not really good .It's still extremely spammable.Are you talking about thief with his evades or mesmer ? I'm lost for a secondIf 10 seconds is extremely spammable skill what we should do about holo leap 2s cd,corona burst 6s cd hit TWICE that must be dodged and all skills that have same/lower cd?May be you are right and all skills should get way higher cooldowns . Not just weapon and profession skill only but every single elite and utility .;)A target break every 10 seconds (not counting invisible) is indeed spammable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenHowl.2419 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"ventusthunder.5067" said:Mirage also has the ability to break enemy targeting without stealth...Axe 3? Illusionary Ambush? Mirage Retreat?Out of those 3 only real target break mesmers use is axe 3 . Ofc you can see memers w/o portal and IAmbush but no retreat because its not really good .It's still extremely spammable.Are you talking about thief with his evades or mesmer ? I'm lost for a secondIf 10 seconds is extremely spammable skill what we should do about holo leap 2s cd,corona burst 6s cd hit TWICE that must be dodged and all skills that have same/lower cd?May be you are right and all skills should get way higher cooldowns . Not just weapon and profession skill only but every single elite and utility .;)A target break every 10 seconds (not counting invisible) is indeed spammable.When chained together with stealth, blindness, distortion, and mirage cloak's invuln frames yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyreborn.1938 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"ventusthunder.5067" said:Mirage also has the ability to break enemy targeting without stealth...Axe 3? Illusionary Ambush? Mirage Retreat?Out of those 3 only real target break mesmers use is axe 3 . Ofc you can see memers w/o portal and IAmbush but no retreat because its not really good .It's still extremely spammable.Are you talking about thief with his evades or mesmer ? I'm lost for a secondIf 10 seconds is extremely spammable skill what we should do about holo leap 2s cd,corona burst 6s cd hit TWICE that must be dodged and all skills that have same/lower cd?May be you are right and all skills should get way higher cooldowns . Not just weapon and profession skill only but every single elite and utility .;)A target break every 10 seconds (not counting invisible) is indeed spammable.Can we give now holo skills 15 seconds cooldown at least ? And raise any skills cooldown that equal or lower than 10 seconds? All those extremely spammable skills ,according to you of course. Or you extremely biased towards mesmers only ?They could add some visual effect for target break ,that wouldnt hurt anyone and wont change anything imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 @tinyreborn.1938 said:@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"ventusthunder.5067" said:Mirage also has the ability to break enemy targeting without stealth...Axe 3? Illusionary Ambush? Mirage Retreat?Out of those 3 only real target break mesmers use is axe 3 . Ofc you can see memers w/o portal and IAmbush but no retreat because its not really good .It's still extremely spammable.Are you talking about thief with his evades or mesmer ? I'm lost for a secondIf 10 seconds is extremely spammable skill what we should do about holo leap 2s cd,corona burst 6s cd hit TWICE that must be dodged and all skills that have same/lower cd?May be you are right and all skills should get way higher cooldowns . Not just weapon and profession skill only but every single elite and utility .;)A target break every 10 seconds (not counting invisible) is indeed spammable.Can we give now holo skills 15 seconds cooldown at least ? And raise any skills cooldown that equal or lower than 10 seconds? All those extremely spammable skills ,according to you of course. Or you extremely biased towards mesmers only ?They could add some visual effect for target break ,that wouldnt hurt anyone and wont change anything imoI don't have much bias against mesmers per say. I do however have a thing about mesmer mains acting like their class is in any way weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyreborn.1938 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@tinyreborn.1938 said:@"ventusthunder.5067" said:Mirage also has the ability to break enemy targeting without stealth...Axe 3? Illusionary Ambush? Mirage Retreat?Out of those 3 only real target break mesmers use is axe 3 . Ofc you can see memers w/o portal and IAmbush but no retreat because its not really good .It's still extremely spammable.Are you talking about thief with his evades or mesmer ? I'm lost for a secondIf 10 seconds is extremely spammable skill what we should do about holo leap 2s cd,corona burst 6s cd hit TWICE that must be dodged and all skills that have same/lower cd?May be you are right and all skills should get way higher cooldowns . Not just weapon and profession skill only but every single elite and utility .;)A target break every 10 seconds (not counting invisible) is indeed spammable.Can we give now holo skills 15 seconds cooldown at least ? And raise any skills cooldown that equal or lower than 10 seconds? All those extremely spammable skills ,according to you of course. Or you extremely biased towards mesmers only ?They could add some visual effect for target break ,that wouldnt hurt anyone and wont change anything imoI don't have much bias against mesmers per say. I do however have a thing about mesmer mains acting like their class is in any way weak.Thats why you find always somethign to complaint about that not even an issue? 1 of your 'only problem for me' series been confusion doing its damage instant which is in the end of the cast, I'm not going to look after each you message.10 seconds for you is extremely spam and that only related to mesmer .Clearly not bias.Where I said that mesmer is weak ? You need a glasses may be? Keep ignoring posts and complaint about mesmer while playing core guardian ,looking great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durzlla.6295 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I play Mesmer and I think it’s fine to be able to be targeted, we have a multitude of ways to break the target, especially as Mirage. It’s ludicrous to think that a class shouldn’t be allowed to be targeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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