Long time WoW player trying guild war

Am making this critic knowing that nothing is will ever be perfect and no one like the same thing.

First of all in the keybind menu "interact" is one of the most important button so if someone change the interact key (by mistake) and then looking for it for a while since it all the way down the menu when you press interact all the time . Am not sure for other mmo player but just a blizzard game player(Sc2 wc3 WOW) You always change your keybind because you can and you will always try to make it comfortable for yourself. Its nothing big but keybind that you use all the time should be in the first category. It just make sense to put it with basic control.

Also having the same exact rotation when you are lv 10 and lv 80 is kinda weird . Yes you have 5 more cd to pop when you are 80 and you have a lot of different cd . I dont know i wish i didt have my full rotation this early . I also wish that my rotation could have change from passive ability or choice that i make. I havent plaid the last expact so there things i dont know

Its always easier to see about the bad stuff ''BUT'' look at this My MMO that i will play is guild war 2. I will be honest and admit that i started to play guild because its company are putting the costumer first unlike pretty much every other game i played.

I don't really see the keybind thing to be an issue. In fact, I didn't even realize it was a complaint by people until you just mentioned it. Either way, you found it and know how to change it so good.

As far as your rotation complaint goes, look at it this way - if you have access to all your weapon types early on you can learn and be at least semi-proficient with a rotation by the time you hit level 80. However, there is something you are missing. See, a weapon rotation is only part of the combat system. What I mean by that is you are missing a couple other things regarding combat which are equally important in this game.....weapon swapping and dodging. You can have a rotation down early on while leveling, but keep in mind, if you also don't learn how to weapon swap and dodge at the right times that rotation will be mediocre at best at level 80, because you will either be cc'd or dead most of the time.

So keep learning that rotation, but learn how to do the other things too.

@normans.8963 said:Also having the same exact rotation when you are lv 10 and lv 80 is kinda weird . Yes you have 5 more cd to pop when you are 80 and you have a lot of different cd . I dont know i wish i didt have my full rotation this early .

It's more complex than that, though you wouldn't know that. You eventually have 3 Specialisations you can mix and match from the 7 you have trained in, and you can tailor them to fit your preferred style of play. Each Specialisation has 9 different tweaks that you can swap around and also 3 you can't adjust. There are Weapon Combos, a lot of them needing cooperation between different Classes but some are Solo. There are Sigils/Runes to fit to armour and weapons, Support Skills you can swap around, likewise with Elite skills, and at lvl 80 you can train in a couple of variants of your Class (only one playable at any one time) and gain completely new weapon skills and a Specialisation to go with each one. Even then I probably haven't scratched the surface. Whole forums are devoted to which Build is best for what role and the debate never ends. :)

I dont know i wish i didt have my full rotation this early

Every profession has multiple weapons. Have you tried them all? Do you keep another set or two in your inventory and swap to a different set of weapons when you want a change of pace? For example, I usually use shortbow & Axe/warhorn on my ranger but when I get tired of that I’ll switch to Greatsword & Longbow, or maybe I’ll start using sword/torch.

If you’re getting bored with the rotation then switch it up.

I think those are pretty minor complaints, considering GW2 is superior in pretty much every other way to WoW.

The elite specializations are the new rotations you get in end-game. You can choose between 2 elite specilizations for each class. More will probably be added.

Every class have traits which affect weapons cd, damage and utility. The more you level up, the more you aquire new traits which will change the rotaton.

Unlike WoW where your rotation at max level remains the same (gear and set bonuses are usually limited to extra bonus procs and stat boost), GW2 have a variety of sigils and runes in which you can customize your playstyle much further to give you a whole new different playstyle for the same spec (example: dps scourge and support scourge).

GW2 design is a bit too different compared to WoW (and other WoW clones). If you want to enjoy this game to the fullest, try to forget what you've learned in other MMOs and explore GW2 as a whole new MMORPG player.

@Biff.5312 said:I think those are pretty minor complaints, considering GW2 is superior in pretty much every other way to WoW.

This is a biased comment. If GW2 is superior to WoW in every other way, then why does WoW have larger playerbase who are willing to pay 15$ month to play. Not to mention that the game is 14 years old.

@trixantea.1230 said:This is a biased comment. If GW2 is superior to WoW in every other way, then why does WoW have larger playerbase who are willing to pay 15$ month to play. Not to mention that the game is 14 years old.

I think it's a matter of WoW being a better MMO for a longer period of time, but I played WoW for eight years and I only play GW2 now.

@Emberstone.2904 said:

I think it's a matter of WoW being a better MMO for a longer period of time, but I played WoW for eight years and I only play GW2 now.

It true that WoW has its own issues (powercreep, grind, rng based loot system.. ) but the game still have much higher quality content when it comes to instensed pve, pvp, class balance, lore and the faction war behind it. Overall I WoW still deserves to be called the king of MMORPGs but this doesn't mean that GW2 is an inferior version of it.

GW2 is a top tier MMO and not just a casual friendly game with better graphics. The game has the best open world content, mount design, world exploration, aquatic combat and jumping puzzles.

Despite its many issues I like how does this game bring players with different levels of skill and gear to help each others. I find it a very good way to reduce toxicity within the community.

Choosing between WoW or GW2 is just a matter of personal preference. I had to reply to that comment in such a way because biased opinions only helps evil companies destroy the game industry which we used to love and respect.

@trixantea.1230 said:

@Emberstone.2904 said:

I think it's a matter of WoW being a better MMO for a longer period of time, but I played WoW for eight years and I only play GW2 now.

As for WoW being the king of MMO. They certainly where the ultimate king during Wrath of the lich king expension but right now i would certainly think that GW2 got a better game at this moment .As for the rotation goes . Yes weapon swapping is pretty fun. Am currently enjoying Revenent with dual wield sword swapping for hammer. Am not sure if i could include a weapon swapping in a pve boss fight for a better dps but I really enjoy switching for hammer and getting a full range rotation + the range shield.

But the main reason why i came to GW2 since i quit WOW bfa 3 week into WOW last expension. Is that i feel like GW2 place is player base first. Am very aware that feeling are relative.

@trixantea.1230 said:

@Biff.5312 said:I think those are pretty minor complaints, considering GW2 is superior in pretty much every other way to WoW.

This is a biased comment. If popularity truly were linked to quality, then all our keyboards would be Dvorak, not Querty, D&D would be respected as an ancient tabletop game that started all RPGs but was quickly replaced, trash food wouldn't be a medical-cultural problem, and Pop singers would be much less popular than Classical orchestras. The Kardashians would have never been on TV. Reggeton and Autotune wouldn't exist. The internet wouldn't be dominated by cheap memes with cats. Etc.

IMO, Wow was in the right place, at the right time, doing the right thing. 14 years ago. Right now it only keeps living through captive customers who have invested too much to change for another thing. Just like most cults work.

@normans.8963 said:Also having the same exact rotation when you are lv 10 and lv 80 is kinda weird . Yes you have 5 more cd to pop when you are 80 and you have a lot of different cd . I >dont know i wish i didt have my full rotation this early . I also wish that my rotation could have change from passive ability or choice that i make. I havent plaid the last >expact so there things i dont know

Welcome!

You aren't 100% correct. Yes, your weapon skills 1-5 are unlocked by LV 10, as is weapon swap, but as you add your first Trait line (talent tree), then 2nd, then 3rd, things will change. Add in sigils on your weapons, runes on your armor, and all of a sudden you are playing a very different game at LV 80 than you were at LV 10.

I remember leveling my 1st character running only signet utilities (basically passive abilities with cooldown activation ability) because I didn't know what I needed or why. But at max level, most of my characters run only 1 signet, and that's because its BIS for my build.

Trust me, having to wait until you were level 70 to get Crusader Strike or Avenger's Shield on a Paladin sucked hard core. Even Blizzard figured this out eventually and started giving specs their signature ability at LV 10, and then at LV 1.

@"trixantea.1230" said:

This is a biased comment. If GW2 is superior to WoW in every other way, then why does WoW have larger playerbase who are willing to pay 15$ month to play. Not to mention that the game is 14 years old.

Pretty easy. It's called "relationship". You had 14 years to make friends in that game, you have one to thirty characters with tons of achievements and maybe a great guild with great people, a commitment to a raid, an arena team or a rbg group. That's why WoW still has players. I played that game very long and always got back for some month because I missed doing stuff with those people I know for about 10 years now.The game is terrible since MoP, but I still returned three times because of "I wonder how my shaman plays these days" or "let's check on the guild".

It's not the quality of the game that keeps many people playing it's what they "earned" or "worked for" over 50% of their lives - just think about it. If you were 12 when you started WoW in 2004/2005, you are 26 now.The only game I played longer than WoW is Counter Strike.The good thing is that most of my WoW friends are now in GW2 (took them a while) or playing other stuff on steam with me. So, no reason to go back.

@geist.4126 said:

@"trixantea.1230" said:

This is a biased comment. If GW2 is superior to WoW in every other way, then why does WoW have larger playerbase who are willing to pay 15$ month to play. Not to mention that the game is 14 years old.

Given that these are the GW2 forums most people here will say GW2 is better.

The category of players who play to keep the "relationship" are just a portion of the large playerbase. If there was really an better MMORPG, It will simply take its place just as Path of Exile did to Diablo 3.

The game is still has 4 to 7M active subs and you can't deny the fact that WoW is far ahead of many MMOs in many aspects.

You won't have exact same rotation on lv 10 and 80 on top of it when you unlock elit spec, your lv 80 rotation of core class might change drastically. But isn't it better to get to know your skill? Leveling gets you trait lines unlocked, that have more things to learn.Welcome to Tyria!

@"trixantea.1230" said:This is a biased comment. If GW2 is superior to WoW in every other way, then why does WoW have larger playerbase who are willing to pay 15$ month to play. Not to mention that the game is 14 years old.

You used the wrong term. What you should have said was the comment was "subjective", as superior means different things to different people for different reasons.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. You can't conclude that WoW is superior because it has a larger playerbase, any more than you could conclude that McDonalds makes the world's best hamburgers because they sell the most hamburgers of any other restaurant on the planet.

People will enjoy aspects of WoW while hating GW2 and vice versa. Logically if someone is posting on GW2 forums, there is a good chance they are enjoying the game, otherwise they would be posting on the WoW forums about why they came back.

In my opinion, GW2 is a superior game, for reasons I won't bother listing, but the truth remains regardless of where Blizzard takes the franchise, I won't ever return to WoW as that style of MMO no longer appeals to me now that I've found GW2.

@"trixantea.1230" said:

The game is still has 4 to 7M active subs and you can't deny the fact that WoW is far ahead of many MMOs in many aspects.

It is down to 3M or slightly above at the moment. And no, it hasn't any aspect that I prefer over GW2. Everything WoW introduced in the last years GW2 already had in a better version.The only thing it still does better is raids, but I stopped caring for those after Lichking. PvP is the worst in existence, the story got dumbed down to "fifty shades niveau", Mythic+ is a worse balanced version of fractals, big scale pvp doesn't exist, world scaling in WoW is terrible, crafting is useless, Transmogrification is a worse version of GW2 system without dyes, etc.

My statement still stands and I still know people that play WoW and the majority of them says exactly this:

• I can't leave because my raid
• I can't leave because I invested so much
• I can't leave because I bought 20 tokens with gold

It's no longer the game that keeps them, it's obligations to friends, guilds, groups or money (six months of sub, etc)

To end this post:I played every expac on start and bought BfA with tokens. BfA was the first one where my guild hadn't more than 5 active players - the same guild that was founded in Burning Crusade and meet yearly for a weekend of fun and barbecue since then - 5 of 30 hardcore WoW players. I stopped BfA after day 2 into the expansion. It felt clunky, bad designed and most of all grindy. It felt like mechanics and design are back to 2002 not 2018. So I logged in very occassionally until day 6, where my main character was level 113 and stopped playing.There are two people left that still play the expansion. And both play it for "I don't want to start a new mmorpg"We will still meet for our guild barbecue in 2019.