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So Episode 5 map will be... [spoilers]

Arden.7480Arden.7480 Member ✭✭✭✭

Caithe foreshadowed we are going North to the Shiverpeaks, where the Brotherhood of the Dragon is/was, so we will seek some secret informations about Glint's plans and her legacy.

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Brotherhood_of_the_Dragon

Also the dwarven history seem to come back again, so maybe we will make a contact with Ogden at some point of the future episode.

Very interesting appetizer, let's hope we will get a proper, tasty dish. :)

https://imgur.com/a/FGytVed

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  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Did she specifically say Shiverpeaks? “North” can simply mean north of her current location.

  • Arden.7480Arden.7480 Member ✭✭✭✭

    deldrimor is also shiverpeaks, though. So either far shiverpeaks or deldrimor.

    I think they wanted to make us meet Caithe to give us the sense that Caithe really travels there, so it takes time.

    She also mentioned "Brotherhood" which certainly means the Brotherhood of the Dragon- the dwarven organization that was also very interested in Glint's prophecies.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 27, 2018

    Yes but on the wiki for dwarves:

    Dwarven society continued on regardless. During this time, the remaining Stone Summit rejoined what remained of Deldrimor and the two communities lived together in peace once more. However, about fifty years after the Rite of the Great Dwarf was first performed, the last of the flesh and blood dwarves felt the call to undergo the Rite themselves. Now, no longer interested in maintaining their solidarity as a race, the last dwarves scattered across Tyria, finding battles to fight in the deep caverns or making new homes in far-flung hills, ever-watching the borders where caverns emerge into the surface world. Those few individuals who can rightfully claim to have met a dwarf in their lifetime are rare, and all speak of the strange, driven passion that consumes these few survivors. It is unclear how many dwarves survive.

    The bolded means that we could even find them in the Elona/Vabbi/Kourna.

    I’m only bringing this up because people have a tendency to read into and embellish minor details, build hype around it, and subsequently get disappointed when their expectations are not met.

    It very well could be in the Shiverpeaks or Deldrimor area but “going north” really isn’t enough information in my opinion. Also look at the dwarves that we are aware of. There is one in the priory but where did we find the other? For all we know, there could be a small story instance in the priory or one in the dwarven ruin in the Highlands.

    I could also make an argument for there being a story instance in that ruin on the Highlands map. The priory are already there and perhaps Anet added their section to PoF in anticipation of using it for the LW season. Rhoban, a dwarf, is already there and would have knowledge of the brotherhood. It also happens to be “north” of Caithe’s location.

    I could also argue about her going to the priory which is also “north”. They have a repository of knowledge there and Ogden is there as well.

    There could also be an instance around Droknar’s Forge leading us to an underground cave network although that may be a bit far-fetched.

  • Caithe mentions a "brotherhood", which is probably The Brotherhood of the Dragon. If you look at the wiki article for the Brotherhood, you see that they have a shrine at Droknar's Forge and were also encountred in the Battledepths up near Hall of Monuments. It is very unlikely the map is going to be around Droknar's Forge, as that is currently where Mount Maelstrom is located. Therefore, heading north means going to the area around the Hall of Monuments. It would also be a nice place to visit for Wintersday because of a certain secret lair...

  • Konig Des Todes.2086Konig Des Todes.2086 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 27, 2018

    You guys, remember, that while most dwarves are dead or believed dead, one of the two living dwarves is a member of the Brotherhood of the Dragon, and on top of that, had hinted that he knew more than he was telling us and was part of a small group that may or may not include the Pale Tree which knew about Glint's Legacy, the Egg, and (as we learn later) Tarir but wasn't divulging that information just yet:

    Ogden Stonehealer.

    "North" could simply mean an instance in the Durmand Priory to talk to our old stoned friend.

    Presuming it is the Brotherhood of the Dragon we're talking about (I haven't seen the dialogue yet myself, because for some reason Caithe doesn't want to write me a freaking letter. -pouts and stomps angrily-)

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:
    You guys, remember, that while most dwarves are dead or believed dead, one of the two living dwarves is a member of the Brotherhood of the Dragon, and on top of that, had hinted that he knew more than he was telling us and was part of a small group that may or may not include the Pale Tree which knew about Glint's Legacy, the Egg, and (as we learn later) Tarir but wasn't divulging that information just yet:

    Ogden Stonehealer.

    "North" could simply mean an instance in the Durmand Priory to talk to our old stoned friend.

    Presuming it is the Brotherhood of the Dragon we're talking about (I haven't seen the dialogue yet myself, because for some reason Caithe doesn't want to write me a freaking letter. -pouts and stomps angrily-)

    If you havent already, try zoning to jahai and walking up to the refuge. I finally got my mail that way

  • Arden.7480Arden.7480 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:
    You guys, remember, that while most dwarves are dead or believed dead, one of the two living dwarves is a member of the Brotherhood of the Dragon, and on top of that, had hinted that he knew more than he was telling us and was part of a small group that may or may not include the Pale Tree which knew about Glint's Legacy, the Egg, and (as we learn later) Tarir but wasn't divulging that information just yet:

    Ogden Stonehealer.

    "North" could simply mean an instance in the Durmand Priory to talk to our old stoned friend.

    Presuming it is the Brotherhood of the Dragon we're talking about (I haven't seen the dialogue yet myself, because for some reason Caithe doesn't want to write me a freaking letter. -pouts and stomps angrily-)

    yeah, go with the character you have A Star to Guide Us done to the Sun's Refuge. She will be there, and the letter should be sent there.

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 27, 2018

    @Randulf.7614 said:

    @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:
    You guys, remember, that while most dwarves are dead or believed dead, one of the two living dwarves is a member of the Brotherhood of the Dragon, and on top of that, had hinted that he knew more than he was telling us and was part of a small group that may or may not include the Pale Tree which knew about Glint's Legacy, the Egg, and (as we learn later) Tarir but wasn't divulging that information just yet:

    Ogden Stonehealer.

    "North" could simply mean an instance in the Durmand Priory to talk to our old stoned friend.

    Presuming it is the Brotherhood of the Dragon we're talking about (I haven't seen the dialogue yet myself, because for some reason Caithe doesn't want to write me a freaking letter. -pouts and stomps angrily-)

    If you havent already, try zoning to jahai and walking up to the refuge. I finally got my mail that way

    I had to go into it to get mine, and it only worked on a character that was completely done with the story.

    Kinda hoping we go to more of the shiverpeaks we cant go to, dwarven ruin exploration please!

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  • Konig Des Todes.2086Konig Des Todes.2086 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 28, 2018

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    If you havent already, try zoning to jahai and walking up to the refuge. I finally got my mail that way

    @Arden.7480 said:
    yeah, go with the character you have A Star to Guide Us done to the Sun's Refuge. She will be there, and the letter should be sent there.

    Naturally I did both of those right off the bat. I managed to get the letter after hours of trying various things (from completing Full House to running around every city, Jahai, and Sun's Refuge on multiple characters) - turns out the bug that prevented email from being sent is that it doesn't happen if you have any story active.

    You need to be on a character who completed the story, have no story active, and go to either LA or Jahai. I was missing the middle bit.

  • Arden.7480Arden.7480 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Oh, maybe we will also meet the Voice from Deepstone Fractal! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Voice (If we go to Deldrimor)

  • Teratus.2859Teratus.2859 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm not so sure this is a teaser but rather a buged or accidental reveal.
    I went to Jahai to check claims made by other players and ended up getting two idental letters from Caithe only after leaving the Suns Refuge, and after speaking to Caithe and leaving she completely disappeared from the Refuge afterwards.

    Considering the Dwarf lore There are only 2 Dwarfs that we know of on Tyria.. the rest are underground in the depths fighting Destroyers.
    After they were turned to stone pretty much all dwarfs united under that common goal even Ogden who remained above ground to aid the Priory and serve as an expert on Elder Dragon Lore.

    To be blunt there are no normal Deldrimor Dwarfs left on Tyria.. the Rite turned all of them into stone eventually even those who resisted like Ogden were eventually turned to stone through force, This would also include the Stone summit and the Brotherhood of the Dragon as well as any other Dwarf on Tyria.
    Once transformed Dwarfs become a sort of hive mind with a singular goal.. Destroy Primordus and the other Dragons.

    As I mentioned earlier there are only 2 Dwarf on the surface of Tyria (Well 1 and a quater technically :P) Ogden and Rhoban and they are both currently interested in Dwarven ruins in Elona.
    Ogden made that interest known in the prologue to PoF and Rhoban's head can be found and spoken to in Fortune's Vale.. the massive Dwarf Ruin in Desert Highlands.
    I believe this is what Caithe was talking about regarding going North of Jahai.. and I would not be surprised is Ogden himself is going to be there in the next episode.
    I'm very much looking forward to that if that's the case since it will be the first time we've seen 2 Dwarf together and I would very much be interested in what they would say to one another as well as their relationship and banter.

    There's a really good chance the new map could be in the Deldrimor front and that I'd be very much excited for but i'm also somewhat curious if it's actually underground in the Depths of Tyria.. and oh boy would that be just freaking amazing!!
    Stone Dwarves, Destroyers.. full underground map.. Hell yes!! to that :D

    I don't think the new map will be way up north in all honesty.. Deldrimor Front is looking like the most logical location but I don't fully want to rule out a fully underground map either.. and before anyone criticizes the idea of a fully underground map just know it wouldn't be the first underground style living world map :P
    Draconis Mons was technically an underground map even though it was techncially above ground.. and that map was awesome ^^

  • Arden.7480Arden.7480 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I doubt it was a bugged off-episode reveal, because it'd make sense that we would get to talk to her
    1) She said: Let people grieve for a while, we'll talk soon enough

    So the time to grieve had passed, so she made a move.

    2) She travels now, so it won't be like: Oh We just went to Caithe, she tells: let's use some weird, no-one-ever-knew-it-existed portal, we will move there with no problems. NO, they finally made it look very realistic, she travels there, she leaves the marks where we should go, and we meet her in the new map.

    Deldrimor is a very nice idea, and I hope it will have some kind of relation with the newest fractal: Deepstone both lore and the look- weird talking spiders, and maybe some dwarves, that hid themselves in order to not to join others that sacrificed themselves in the fight against Primordus and his minion- the traitors- it would also be very interesting.

    So either we will find the real dwarf/ves, or we will simply grab some data that we'll find on the ground, or we'll find a long-forgotten message of the Brotherhood of the Dragon, that will appear to us as a cinematic (something like the cinematic in A Way Forward- PoF).

    I am a fan of making the contact with another dwarves+having another cinematic.

    Very interesting journey it will be, and Braham will probably not be in the episode- Caves=spiders, Rytlock will still be in the Mists searching for the info, and Taimi and Gorrik will be our informators. So this episode will be more focused on the relationship of Caithe and the Commander, something like Braham and the commander in Episode 4- lot of time to talk.

    Because Caithe's plot is a very complex one, so I think she should get a lot of time in this episode, and I think she will.

  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Arden.7480 said:
    I doubt it was a bugged off-episode reveal, because it'd make sense that we would get to talk to her
    1) She said: Let people grieve for a while, we'll talk soon enough

    So the time to grieve had passed, so she made a move.

    2) She travels now, so it won't be like: Oh We just went to Caithe, she tells: let's use some weird, no-one-ever-knew-it-existed portal, we will move there with no problems. NO, they finally made it look very realistic, she travels there, she leaves the marks where we should go, and we meet her in the new map.

    Deldrimor is a very nice idea, and I hope it will have some kind of relation with the newest fractal: Deepstone both lore and the look- weird talking spiders, and maybe some dwarves, that hid themselves in order to not to join others that sacrificed themselves in the fight against Primordus and his minion- the traitors- it would also be very interesting.

    So either we will find the real dwarf/ves, or we will simply grab some data that we'll find on the ground, or we'll find a long-forgotten message of the Brotherhood of the Dragon, that will appear to us as a cinematic (something like the cinematic in A Way Forward- PoF).

    I am a fan of making the contact with another dwarves+having another cinematic.

    Very interesting journey it will be, and Braham will probably not be in the episode- Caves=spiders, Rytlock will still be in the Mists searching for the info, and Taimi and Gorrik will be our informators. So this episode will be more focused on the relationship of Caithe and the Commander, something like Braham and the commander in Episode 4- lot of time to talk.

    Because Caithe's plot is a very complex one, so I think she should get a lot of time in this episode, and I think she will.

    And, of course, we'll be seeing Faren probably since he was in Sun's Refuge and hasn't been given another mission. Well, at least we can hope he's around :D

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  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Fenom.9457 said:

    @Arden.7480 said:
    I doubt it was a bugged off-episode reveal, because it'd make sense that we would get to talk to her
    1) She said: Let people grieve for a while, we'll talk soon enough

    So the time to grieve had passed, so she made a move.

    2) She travels now, so it won't be like: Oh We just went to Caithe, she tells: let's use some weird, no-one-ever-knew-it-existed portal, we will move there with no problems. NO, they finally made it look very realistic, she travels there, she leaves the marks where we should go, and we meet her in the new map.

    Deldrimor is a very nice idea, and I hope it will have some kind of relation with the newest fractal: Deepstone both lore and the look- weird talking spiders, and maybe some dwarves, that hid themselves in order to not to join others that sacrificed themselves in the fight against Primordus and his minion- the traitors- it would also be very interesting.

    So either we will find the real dwarf/ves, or we will simply grab some data that we'll find on the ground, or we'll find a long-forgotten message of the Brotherhood of the Dragon, that will appear to us as a cinematic (something like the cinematic in A Way Forward- PoF).

    I am a fan of making the contact with another dwarves+having another cinematic.

    Very interesting journey it will be, and Braham will probably not be in the episode- Caves=spiders, Rytlock will still be in the Mists searching for the info, and Taimi and Gorrik will be our informators. So this episode will be more focused on the relationship of Caithe and the Commander, something like Braham and the commander in Episode 4- lot of time to talk.

    Because Caithe's plot is a very complex one, so I think she should get a lot of time in this episode, and I think she will.

    And, of course, we'll be seeing Faren probably since he was in Sun's Refuge and hasn't been given another mission. Well, at least we can hope he's around :D

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