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-Serious- Everyones thoughts on Beetle Racing at least 30k+ prize pool in ~1 month?

Nos.9803Nos.9803 Member ✭✭

Recently, as most of the community is aware, the GW2 Marketing team has launched an initiative to promote their newest competitive game mode known as pod racin... I mean Beetle Racing :D. Beetle Racing involves mounting on your beetle and you guessed, racing along a pre set path in numerous zones. Is this money well spent? Would it have been better spent funding a pve or pvp tournament like the ye old days? Personally, I think spending money on a customized car was a bit much.... to say the least.

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  • zoopop.5630zoopop.5630 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The idea is great and it's something different.

    However The Idea of trying to bring back any sort of "price pool" for spvp isn't going to happen especially when anet hasn't given a single reason for teams to even remotely form teams in the first place Unless it's for Monthly and EVEN that has become a joke Unless you are in with team usa and if you aren't then their isn't a single point to make a team.

    However I agree that the money spend is insanely stupid, We could of added a new legendary back piece or trinket by now that's for spvp players, or make better actual 2vs2 maps but we can only be half happy with half the things we get as spvp players, we just been so mislead and lied to for such a long time that it has made almost everyone pretty sour about things lol.

  • I'm perfectly fine with it.

  • Bossun.2046Bossun.2046 Member ✭✭✭

    Same prize could of been thrown in a PvP tournament. I don't agree with it.

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  • Teratus.2859Teratus.2859 Member ✭✭✭

    Makes sense to me.. PvP only appeals to a minotiry of players and has far too many restrictions involved with it.
    Hardware, Internet connection, player skill, real life timeframes.. there are so many factors that restrict that already small minotiry into an even smaller number of players who really have any chance of winning or even competing.

    I'm not against PvP tournaments with cash prizes but if Anet wants to do a huge one like this with a ton of money invested into it then it makes far more sense to base the competition around the PvE game and ensure that as many people as possible have an equal chance to win.. which is exactly what they have done with Beetle racing.
    Yea I'll agree that the prize pool is pretty crazy but I gotta love the enthusiasm around the contest ^^

    PvP tournaments are just too restrictive for this kind of cash investment.. only the top tier PvP players even stand a chance of winning which pretty much ostracizes most of the PvP community right from the start.. not to mention the vast majority of the games install base as well.

  • otto.5684otto.5684 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I could not care less. Honestly, if there was no real money rewards (or in game achievements) attached to them would anyone care? All races are currently abandoned for a reason. They suck. Attaching rewards to kitten does not make it good. It is still kitten, but kitten people are welling. I really wish devs would understand that if something does not work attaching rewards to it would not make it work.

    As for it being money well spent, people who have access to this: GW2 active --> Who have PoF --> Actively playing --> Play LW --> Played last Episode of LW --> Completed the collection --> Care enough about racing. I would go on a hunch and say no, it is not money well spent cuz a seriously small portion of the population would even remotely care about this.

  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Nos.9803 said:
    Recently, as most of the community is aware, the GW2 Marketing team has launched an initiative to promote their newest competitive game mode known as pod racin... I mean Beetle Racing :D. Beetle Racing involves mounting on your beetle and you guessed, racing along a pre set path in numerous zones. Is this money well spent? Would it have been better spent funding a pve or pvp tournament like the ye old days? Personally, I think spending money on a customized car was a bit much.... to say the least.

    I'm actually really enjoying those races lol. But I wish they would have allowed us to bump into people or something and push people off their course, that'd be pretty fun. Kind of like Mario Kart'ish.

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  • shadowpass.4236shadowpass.4236 Member ✭✭✭✭

    There's no competition in PvP atm. It would be an easy $30k for whatever teams win the monthlies.

  • They should first focus on balancing the PvP gameplay.

  • @shadowpass.4236 said:
    There's no competition in PvP atm. It would be an easy $30k for whatever teams win the monthlies.

    I'd like monthlies to have 500$ tied to them, 1k for both servers a'month. This would let them incentivize PvP for more than 4 years to come.

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  • @AngelLovesFredrik.6741 said:

    I'd like monthlies to have 500$ tied to them, 1k for both servers a'month. This would let them incentivize PvP for more than 4 years to come.

    But then only people from a few select countries would be able to compete in monthlies.

    As for op, they tried money tournament to increase revenue through pvp and since they stopped I'd assume it wasn't successful. So them trying again seems unlikely.

  • @Tapps.1479 said:

    @AngelLovesFredrik.6741 said:

    I'd like monthlies to have 500$ tied to them, 1k for both servers a'month. This would let them incentivize PvP for more than 4 years to come.

    But then only people from a few select countries would be able to compete in monthlies.

    As for op, they tried money tournament to increase revenue through pvp and since they stopped I'd assume it wasn't successful. So them trying again seems unlikely.

    1k a month shouldn't be considered as paid events for a company the size of ArenaNet. Also, just use something like PayPal to distribute the money. It's 2018 ..

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  • witcher.3197witcher.3197 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 29, 2018

    I like it. Some of the minigames in GW1 used to be very competitive, but became a casual clownfiesta in GW2 that gradually fell into neglect. Glad to see that they are encouraging people to truly get good at something for once.

    It's not like dumping raw money into PvP worked before, and certainly wouldn't work now anyways.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 30, 2018

    I uninstalled to be honest.

    Sick of the kitten arounds when it comes to PvP, if the same effort was put into alliances and swiss or more frequent ATs then we would have it months ago and pisses me off that the money I put into this game is being handed out like kitten candy rather than actual development or progress towards pvp or wvw.

    So for the first time ever, I uninstalled and will install again once 2 kitten are given to pvp or wvw.

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  • otto.5684otto.5684 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 30, 2018

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    I uninstalled to be honest.

    Sick of the kitten arounds when it comes to PvP, if the same effort was put into alliances and swiss or more frequent ATs then we would have it months ago and pisses me off that the money I put into this game is being handed out like kitten candy rather than actual development or progress towards pvp or wvw.

    So for the first time ever, I uninstalled and will install again once 2 kitten are given to pvp or wvw.

    You probably will never reinstall 🙁

    The game though is kind of in a dry spell though. The new sPvP map is kinda meh. We did not have class balance in over two month and while the last LW map was fun, it’s repliability is non-existent.

  • Ithilwen.1529Ithilwen.1529 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I think Beetle Racing is the best "PvP" idea ANET has had in years. I've been spending most of my time, ( and money,) in other games including GW1. Racing has brought me back.

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  • I will say the car choice seems odd considering Volkswagen executives were just recently found guilty of conspiracy to defraud the U.S. government and violating the Clean Air Act with their emission cheating scandal. Additionally, I don't think VW Beetles have been trendy for quite some time, I can't even remember the last time I actually saw one on the road. Anet could have just as easily done raptor racing with a Ford F-150 Raptor and I think more people would have been interested.

  • @sephiroth.4217 said:
    I uninstalled to be honest.

    Sick of the kitten arounds when it comes to PvP, if the same effort was put into alliances and swiss or more frequent ATs then we would have it months ago and pisses me off that the money I put into this game is being handed out like kitten candy rather than actual development or progress towards pvp or wvw.

    So for the first time ever, I uninstalled and will install again once 2 kitten are given to pvp or wvw.

    Wow that's to bad. I know I'm full of vitriol when it comes to this kitten game mode but you always seemed to be level headed in most things. Enough so that I thought you were a white knight or even Anet employee. You know a company is really kitten when they can't even keep people like you around. I wish you luck.

  • hey if you don't try new things then you don't evolve.

  • phokus.8934phokus.8934 Member ✭✭✭

    @Waffler.1257 said:
    I will say the car choice seems odd considering Volkswagen executives were just recently found guilty of conspiracy to defraud the U.S. government and violating the Clean Air Act with their emission cheating scandal. Additionally, I don't think VW Beetles have been trendy for quite some time, I can't even remember the last time I actually saw one on the road. Anet could have just as easily done raptor racing with a Ford F-150 Raptor and I think more people would have been interested.

    All things considered, the F150 Raptor is $60k, lol.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Shadow Order.7258 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    I uninstalled to be honest.

    Sick of the kitten arounds when it comes to PvP, if the same effort was put into alliances and swiss or more frequent ATs then we would have it months ago and pisses me off that the money I put into this game is being handed out like kitten candy rather than actual development or progress towards pvp or wvw.

    So for the first time ever, I uninstalled and will install again once 2 kitten are given to pvp or wvw.

    Wow that's to bad. I know I'm full of vitriol when it comes to this kitten game mode but you always seemed to be level headed in most things. Enough so that I thought you were a white knight or even Anet employee. You know a company is really kitten when they can't even keep people like you around. I wish you luck.

    Anet is a good company and the game is fantastic but for the last year I havent been able to enjoy the game like I used too when playing with friends at my own discretion was allowed and I waited a very long time for it to become a reality again but its becoming evident that its never going to happen

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  • mortrialus.3062mortrialus.3062 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The beetle races were cool, I spent a lot of time getting gold in all of them, and I hope the giveaway brings a lot of people into the game. Unlike some people understand the need for the game to be multifaceted with broad appeal with a wider variety of content.

  • @mortrialus.3062 said:
    the need for the game to be multifaceted with broad appeal with a wider variety of content.

    The game's about as themepark'y as it can get without collapsing under it's own weight.

    If anything it needs more focused development. Feature creep is real and one of GW2's biggest problems.

  • DanAlcedo.3281DanAlcedo.3281 Member ✭✭✭

    @Bossun.2046 said:
    Same prize could of been thrown in a PvP tournament. I don't agree with it.

    Why stop there and not give it directly to the 5 guys that would win the tournament anyway?

  • Daishi.6027Daishi.6027 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 4, 2018

    No one cares to watch, or likes to watch 5v5 conquest.

    Only NOW does A-net begin to support 2v2 something that is bound to grow in popularity, however it’s still not designed for people to easily queue into those kind of matches except for specific times; giving limited options to even practice. Also balance is still designed around 5v5 and not 2v2 so this evolution will be slow.

    I probably wont participate, however racing is easier to watch, and more compelling to the masses than 5v5 conquest. The current barrier to entry is much lower. You win and lose based on your OWN merits not that of team. Also this is a scene to grow as opposed to our dwindling 5v5 scene. There are also no balance issues to gripe about. I fully support A-net supporting this.

    The money would have been good to support pvp, but it also would have been good if they didn’t go all in on 5v5 design.

  • Milan.9035Milan.9035 Member ✭✭✭

    no way will anet add more to racing. they are done with it. just like all content in game, they make it spend a little effort then forget about it.

    as for me i have no desire to do races. if i want to play racing games i would do that not one in an mmo. so yea dont plan to even try it, not my thing. also doesnt really affect me. if people like it good for them. enjoy.

  • mortrialus.3062mortrialus.3062 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Substance E.4852 said:

    @mortrialus.3062 said:
    the need for the game to be multifaceted with broad appeal with a wider variety of content.

    The game's about as themepark'y as it can get without collapsing under it's own weight.

    If anything it needs more focused development. Feature creep is real and one of GW2's biggest problems.

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  • @Daishi.6027 said:
    No one cares I don't care to watch, or likes to watch 5v5 conquest.

    Fixed it for you. You are welcome.

  • Ilove the race,but hope they let us shoot turtle shell to another racer :p

  • Daishi.6027Daishi.6027 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 5, 2018

    @rank eleven monk.9502 said:

    @Daishi.6027 said:
    (No one cares) I don't care Only a very small relatively insignificant portion of the installed userbase, that hardly brings in new eyes after years (one of the key corner stones of e-sports) cares to watch, or like to watch 5v5 conquest.

    Fixed it for you. You are welcome.

    Thanks, but it needed a little bit more of a touch up.

  • ZhouX.8742ZhouX.8742 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 5, 2018

    @shadowpass.4236 said:
    There's no competition in PvP atm. It would be an easy $30k for whatever teams win the monthlies.

    Exactly why the OP is so mad about it, free money went to something else instead of his stacked team in a dead PvP game.

    $30k prize pool will not rejuvenate this PvP game mode , it's been long dead and will continue to decline.

  • mrauls.6519mrauls.6519 Member ✭✭✭

    Current state of PvP does not deserve a $30k prize pool. If they did invest money into PvP, I'd rather they expand their balancing/development team

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  • I don't PVP, but I see lots of forum complaints about cheating. Do you have any idea how extreme the cheating would get if there were real-world prizes?

  • Lucentfir.7430Lucentfir.7430 Member ✭✭✭

    @Bossun.2046 said:
    Same prize could of been thrown in a PvP tournament. I don't agree with it.

    With everything bad that's happened in competitive SPvP scene and just over the course of all seasons. no I'd rather not see a official Anet real money prize pool for Spvp, it doesn't deserve it. If they did it's free money to the people that already farm tournies unopposed. The money put in for Beetle Racing is fine, it's certainly miles better than any advertisement regarding Gw2 and Taxi cabs -cough-.

  • Azure The Heartless.3261Azure The Heartless.3261 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2018

    I am as impressed with the beetle races as I am disappointed with the state of PVP.

    It's bittersweet, but a good idea is a good idea. If they want to do giveaways I'd rather it be given to some speedy beetle racer than whoever's stacking in pvp at the moment.

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  • Erzian.5218Erzian.5218 Member ✭✭✭

    @rank eleven monk.9502 said:

    @Daishi.6027 said:
    No one cares I don't care to watch, or likes to watch 5v5 conquest.

    Fixed it for you. You are welcome.

    To be fair, compared to the amount of people who play gw2, the amount of people who enjoy watching gw2 pvp is probably negligible.

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