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Old Human Female Idle Animation

Is it ever gonna come back? =/
Bring it back please!

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  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No it was sexist.

  • Fat Disgrace.4275Fat Disgrace.4275 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Can anyone actually dog up the legit reason as to why this was removed?

  • Mea.5491Mea.5491 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I hated them, good riddance. BUT the best thing would be adding more customization options: an optional on/off toggle for idle animations for every race. I don't want idle animations on my female Sylvari because some of them (especially the arm swing) cause clipping issues with weapons and back items. Let us control what animations we want to see on our characters! This would not affect other players. Best way to make everyone happy.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @dusanyu.4057 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    No it was sexist.

    how ?

    Oh you never saw how the females pushed out their round things making the poor teenage boys froth at the mouth? =)
    They basicly stare ... the female toons so it hade to be removed sadly.

  • maddoctor.2738maddoctor.2738 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2, 2018

    Oldest thread on the subject is from September 2014:
    https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Female-human-only-has-1-animation-now/page/1

    Posts from developers:
    https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Female-human-only-has-1-animation-now/page/2#post4392079
    https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Female-human-only-has-1-animation-now/page/5#post4686023

    Apparently this hasn't been on top of their list... it's been almost 3 (December 2015) years since the last developer post and more than 4 years since they removed the animations.

  • Maddoctor, I do remember this, and after a while there was something similar about mini pets but it was something that was considered as "so cute" if I remember right =p
    And then it was said that it is bug and moved to bugs forums ><

    As for Linken, we have Kasmeer kissing Marjory (now some people will do the living story or check Youtube xD) so I would say there is similarity in the situations so it is not really excuse to remove it ><

    Anyway, bring it back please =)

  • maddoctor.2738maddoctor.2738 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2, 2018

    @Heartpains.7312 said:
    Maddoctor, I do remember this, and after a while there was something similar about mini pets but it was something that was considered as "so cute" if I remember right =p
    And then it was said that it is bug and moved to bugs forums ><

    As for Linken, we have Kasmeer kissing Marjory (now some people will do the living story or check Youtube xD) so I would say there is similarity in the situations so it is not really excuse to remove it ><

    Anyway, bring it back please =)

    Yes, this thread is about the mini pets:
    https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/god-dangit-mini-XD/page/1#post4691345
    "Great storytelling"

    As someone put it in the old thread:

    Situation: “Fidget” animations distract someone from the seriousness of a death scene.
    Response: The animations are removed.
    Situation: Goofy mini pets distract someone from the seriousness of a death scene.
    Response: Everyone laughs and has a good time.

    As for being a bug, it has been logged as one since September 2014 (check my first developer post link)

  • kurfu.5623kurfu.5623 Member ✭✭✭

    @Fat Disgrace.4275 said:
    Can anyone actually dog up the legit reason as to why this was removed?

    The female stretching animation was "too sexy" for some people... The devs spin the reason for the removal as being "too distracting" during certain story scenes.

    This is my signature. It is not very exciting.

  • mortrialus.3062mortrialus.3062 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I get people being annoyed by the stretch but after the stretch the pose with the hand on the hip could look very heroic and I miss it.

  • The old female animation was a nightmare of clipping, especially with pauldrons
    It was good to get rid of it.

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dashingsteel.3410 said:
    I don't buy Anet's explanation of the animation being inappropriate or distracting from the seriousness of certain scenes. I think Anet is afraid of the PC mob.

    at the time there was a decently long thread asking if there was a way for them to disable animations in cutscenes and the like due to people finding it not fitting for the scene, so...im mixed.

    Still think it should be added, but its so low on their priorities its not gonna.

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  • MetalGirl.2370MetalGirl.2370 Member ✭✭✭

    Here we go again with this topic .... for 100th time

    and im glad they removed it now that i play norn because norns always had these little animation and humans had that whole thing going on and now it's nice that they're the same.
    if they brought them back they should also make something more special for norns

    Mesmerizing

  • If asuras stretch also I wouldn't mind, those who are glad that they removed it I really don't see any harm for it to be in the game as it was, I wouldn't mind the old Flamekissed light outfit too.

  • Laila Lightness.8742Laila Lightness.8742 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 3, 2018

    No idle animation is best idle animation. Its a unneccesery animation wich only encourages afking. Better remove them and not have to worry about bugs involving them than keep them or make them an option since that takes time that could be used elsewhere. They dont really add to game anyway since you need to be idling (not playing ) to see them wich makes them useless

  • Raknar.4735Raknar.4735 Member ✭✭✭

    I do miss the "sand-kicking" animation.

  • Fantasy.5321Fantasy.5321 Member ✭✭✭

    Make idle animations optional, I want to turn them off on my characters.

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 3, 2018

    @maddoctor.2738 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @dusanyu.4057 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    No it was sexist.

    how ?

    Oh you never saw how the females pushed out their round things making the poor teenage boys froth at the mouth? =)
    They basicly stare ... the female toons so it hade to be removed sadly.

    Some more info on the subject so you know WHY they were removed:

    Soooo sorry! I asked about this and forgot to post!
    Some time ago, it was noticed and reported as a “bug” that during cinematics, the “fidget” animations continued. So you’re seeing this exciting story bit about a dragon attack and, behind the scenes, your character is yawning and toeing the sand. It just didn’t fit.
    So the animations were temporarily removed to be worked on and reincorporated in a way that allowed them to perform normally in the game but to stop (or maybe change) during cinematics. But getting to a place where the animations could be configured on a more fine-grained basis took more time than anticipated.
    From what I understand, the team has the tools to reconfigure and re-enable the animations, but the team lead told me that naturally they’ll need to figure out when someone (or maybe more than one person) can be assigned the task. As it turns out, each animation bit needs to be reconfigured individually.
    TL;dr: This change is coming, as soon as it can be scheduled and prioritized. Naturally, some matters that are higher on the priority list but this project will be scheduled as appropriate.

    It's a post from Gaile but where I found it there is no link from where exactly. Link to the thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Please-Address-the-Female-Human-Animation/page/1#post4966808

    So they weren't removed because they were sexist. They were removed because your character stretching while a friend was dead in front of them and other characters were crying wasn't "appropriate".

    The worst part is all classes/races/genders do this.

    (#MeOneAnimation)

  • +1 Yes please! The lack of idle animations make the game look lifeless to me. It looks like a lot of statues standing around! Elder scrolls online does a much better job on idle and emote animations.

  • Mea.5491Mea.5491 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @NASATT.3678 said:
    Elder scrolls online does a much better job on idle and emote animations.

    I absolutely hate the ugly running/sprinting animations in ESO but I do like that I am not forced to have idle animations. And then there are the people who can equip personalities if the want. Great idea and pleases every kind of player. Optional things are good!

  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Interesting thread, but I have to confess I've never seen any of the idle animations on any of my characters. If I'm actually standing idle for extended periods of time, waiting for a meta to start,etc, I'm usually looking at stuff on the TP or achievement panels. Awesome that ANET makes such things accessible at all times. <3

  • Liewec.2896Liewec.2896 Member ✭✭✭

    @Linken.6345 said:
    No it was sexist.

    you spelt sexy wrong! :smile:

  • Mea.5491Mea.5491 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Liewec.2896 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    No it was sexist.

    you spelt sexy wrong! :smile:

    Those weird stretched textures at the armpits are anything but sexy, lol. It looks like her arms were stuck in "The Rack" death trap from SAW3.

  • It looks pretty nice to me, thought I wouldn't mind if we get them back and have the on/off option for those who doesn't want them =)

  • I don't mind sexy clothes but animations that make women look like brain dead idiots bother me a lot. It was the stupid look on their face while they swung their arms back and forth the drove me nuts. I wouldn't use the human female characters because of it, all my toons were Norn. I was tickled pink when they got rid of it. PLEASE DON'T bring it back, I don't want to have to delete 6 yr old toons!

  • The black lion merchant npc in lily of amoon does a stretch animation. The personalities idea is a good compromise.

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Sneakr.3679 said:
    I don't mind sexy clothes but animations that make women look like brain dead idiots bother me a lot. It was the stupid look on their face while they swung their arms back and forth the drove me nuts. I wouldn't use the human female characters because of it, all my toons were Norn. I was tickled pink when they got rid of it. PLEASE DON'T bring it back, I don't want to have to delete 6 yr old toons!

    So a female's movements are an indication of lack of intelligence?

  • Please no. That animation is weird and awkward.

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @NASATT.3678 said:
    The black lion merchant npc in lily of amoon does a stretch animation. The personalities idea is a good compromise.

    If its the one pictued above imma laugh that the animation is still in game just not allowed to be used!

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  • Anchoku.8142Anchoku.8142 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'd rather have How to Dance vol 2

  • @Dante.1763 said:

    @NASATT.3678 said:
    The black lion merchant npc in lily of amoon does a stretch animation. The personalities idea is a good compromise.

    If its the one pictued above imma laugh that the animation is still in game just not allowed to be used!

    Yes it's the same! I took a few screenshots just in case. The NPC is named Rahma.

  • Cedric Ambidexter.9174Cedric Ambidexter.9174 Member ✭✭
    edited December 4, 2018

    @Heartpains.7312 said:
    Is it ever gonna come back? =/
    Bring it back please!

    I'm sorry but 99% of the character animations in this game are bad. Completely ruined GW1. Dancing is horrible, much more limited action commands and it just isn't fun, just more filler now.

  • Yargesh.4965Yargesh.4965 Member ✭✭✭

    This movement does not exist anywhere in the real world. I have never seen it. I have many sisters, female friends and relatives, daughter, wife and never once have any of them made this motion. Let alone every 5 seconds.

  • Ganathar.4956Ganathar.4956 Member ✭✭✭

    At the very least the kicking the dirt idle with the hands on the hips should return. It does bug me that they removed the idles, but looking at the stretch animation pics again, the armpits do look a bit awkward. The shoulderpad clipping would also be a nightmare.

    Currently the only idle animation is playing with the hair for one second. It's very very boring and it feels as if they butchered the female human idles. Give the kicking the dirt animation back at least, or make new ones. Asuras got new idles about a year ago iirc.

  • @notebene.3190 said:
    I'd like to see a 'novelty' treatment for idle animations.

    1. Wardrobe for animations you learn/know.
    2. Select none to many idle animations to have 'active'.
    3. Frequency of animation slider.
    4. Bonus: Select a 'weighted frequency' for each selected animation to occur.

    Then bring back the old idle animations. People can choose which they like and don't like for themselves to active.

    New: Introduce new idle animations as rewards for things, and yes, the gem store (to help pay for the abol

    Will never happen Anet is way too afraid of parent's opinion same as for skimpy armor.
    Here's 3 thing I've seen disappear since 2005, which is also why this game is becoming more and more a 6 year and up game every year. Prove me wrong.
    Female animations, 2 ) Beautiful character creation, all beautiful faces have been removed from charactrer creation all faces are now fugly, why Anet?
    3) Skimpy armor

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Hybarf Tics.2048 said:

    @notebene.3190 said:
    I'd like to see a 'novelty' treatment for idle animations.

    1. Wardrobe for animations you learn/know.
    2. Select none to many idle animations to have 'active'.
    3. Frequency of animation slider.
    4. Bonus: Select a 'weighted frequency' for each selected animation to occur.

    Then bring back the old idle animations. People can choose which they like and don't like for themselves to active.

    New: Introduce new idle animations as rewards for things, and yes, the gem store (to help pay for the abol

    Will never happen Anet is way too afraid of parent's opinion same as for skimpy armor.
    Here's 3 thing I've seen disappear since 2005, which is also why this game is becoming more and more a 6 year and up game every year. Prove me wrong.
    Female animations, 2 ) Beautiful character creation, all beautiful faces have been removed from charactrer creation all faces are now fugly, why Anet?
    3) Skimpy armor

    When did they remove beautiful faces, i checked the changes to character creation and nothing but additions have been added.

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  • Hybarf Tics.2048Hybarf Tics.2048 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 4, 2018

    ~Dante.1763
    Try to create a beautiful female and tell me that the basic faces are nice and easy to mod or improve?
    I will post 2 pictures for you my first Ele and my last, the first her basic face has been deleted from character creation.
    How do I know this? Because almost no changes had to be made on her, with the new choices I could never go back and re create her for all intent and purposes
    she dead and buried.
    1) https://imgur.com/0e3LmGF
    2) https://imgur.com/Lbe80An
    The chin, mouth and eyes I could never make it as before because that basic face is no longer there.
    You see on the first pic, hands on the hip that was also removed. You remember the old song " too sexy for my body, too sexy for my hat", well Anet went one step further and changed it to " too sexy for Anet what about that?"
    Anything too sexy for Anet has to be removed, now you have to be overdressed to kill for even in the desert and die of heat exposure. :o

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 4, 2018

    @Hybarf Tics.2048 said:
    ~Dante.1763
    Try to create a beautiful female and tell me that the basic faces are nice and easy to mod or improve?
    I will post 2 pictures for you my first Ele and my last, the first her basic face has been deleted from character creation.
    How do I know this? Because almost no changes had to be made on her, with the new choices I could never go back and re create her for all intent and purposes
    she dead and buried.
    1) https://imgur.com/0e3LmGF
    2) https://imgur.com/Lbe80An
    The chin, mouth and eyes I could never make it as before because that basic face is no longer there.

    First off, my idea of beautiful is different than yours, The first one looks like a child to me, and the latter one i find much more beautiful to me. Second, i only play female Charr, and its gotten very easy to make really good looking and or beautiful, well i find them to be. Third, I just created a test charcter to see if that face was gone, it isnt. Its the bottom right face in the first 9 that appear in the basic character creation menu, if i woulda spent more time i could probably have recreated her fully, but im not great with the human sliders, so i stopped and remade the character i deleted to see.

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  • ~Dante.1763
    Thanks Dante i will look it up, maybe I made more changes to the first one than I remember.

  • Loki.4871Loki.4871 Member ✭✭

    I'd like it back though I suspect it won't happen. If it won't be returning than can we at least get a different one instead?

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Hybarf Tics.2048 said:
    ~Dante.1763
    Thanks Dante i will look it up, maybe I made more changes to the first one than I remember.

    Could be, but also alot of the faces got moved around when PoF was added due to them adding a bunch of african looking ones so its position may have been shifted! Hopefully didnt come off as rude, wasnt trying to be :(

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