[suggestion] Remove SOULBOUND completely, ACCOUNT BOUND is enough

Soulbound (of items) is the past, no reason to keep it anymore.

Why our characters cannot share the wealth? We can only use one (character) at a time.From the economy point of view the low quality/cheap gear does not count much. (No reason to keep Masterwork/Rare items soulbound)I think most of the exotics is not high value enough, the expensive ones are just skin/collection unlock, the actual item does not matter too much.The exotic skins are already account bound, why not the actual items?

This (the soulbound status) is mainly an inconvenience, not a real gold sink anymore.The account bound items are already extracted from the game economy so the purpose is reached.

NO MORE REAL NEED FOR SOULBIND, ACCOUNT BOUND IS OK.

Agreed. Especially given the many interesting items like the Orphan's Wintersday trinkets, which are one per account, but are still soulbound.

Talking about Account but Soulbound, is something meant to obtain something with 1 character but not to be forced to use with that one.Btw, i guess that account bound will remain a trait of ascended and legendary items.

Completely agree with OP. Soulbound status is outdated, we should be able to move all gear between characters.

Agreed. At this point exotics are easy enough to get - and in that vein, I'd like to see all exotic quality stats available for trade.

@Shirlias.8104 said:Talking about Account but Soulbound, is something meant to obtain something with 1 character but not to be forced to use with that one.Btw, i guess that account bound will remain a trait of ascended and legendary items.

Yep, funny thing is the best items (ascended and legendary) are already account bound.

Agreed. Account bount covers is all.

I am also in complete agreement that soulbound status on all items should be done away with and all currently soulbound items should instead be made account bound.

Soulbound really only makes sense if the characters are assumed to not be owned by the same person or something. It's not like transferring items to your own characters is somehow cheating or unfair.

Fully agree. Hopefully it would be simple enough to implement that they might actually consider it at some point. Hell, it'd help sell some bank tabs so they'd at least have some incentive to make it happen. I'd certainly be much more hesitant to salvage a gear set if I knew I might end up using it on another toon.

I preferred the GW1 system where your weapon only became bound if you chose to customize it for a damage boost. Even using it, without customizing, didnt prevent you from selling it if you chose.

there are a few things that should remain soul bound, such as the golem banker. As a new one is given to every core deluxe account character.Making it account bound would let people have it to infinity.

@jhnsmth.2641 said:Soulbound (of items) is the past, no reason to keep it anymore.

That's not true. Soulbinding removes wealth from the economy and it's critical that the game maintain such sinks. Additionally, there are lots of heart & quest related items that are soulbound, so that we actually play our toons rather than play a main and transfer items to our alts. And, it is actually incredibly costly to adjust the status of lots of items. (Easy enough to write a script to convert the flag for "soul" to "account", but also easy to screw up the game due to unexpected results — testing such scripts is what's so labor intensive).

I'd be okay with ANet changing things for the future so that

• Gear is always account bound on acquisition & only bound on stat select/equip/reskin; no more exotic weapons etc that are bound to whoever happens to find it first.
• Quest & heart items are always soulbound.
• Everything else is account bound on acquisition by default, unless there's a really good reason.

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@jhnsmth.2641 said:Soulbound (of items) is the past, no reason to keep it anymore.

• Gear is always account bound on acquisition & only bound on stat select/equip/reskin; no more exotic weapons etc that are bound to whoever happens to find it first.
• Quest & heart items are always soulbound.
• Everything else is account bound on acquisition by default, unless there's a really good reason.

If you read it through, it says Account Bound is enough. No one wanted to remove Account Bind.

So what if I can pass a used Exotic to my alt? Do you really think this is a violation of some kind? Money and most of our wealth is already shared.Why we cannot share the gears we get? I mean it is ridiculous that only the ascended and legendary could be shared.

Only items that should be soul-bound should be trophies and story-specific.

I think it would be good if old items remain soulbound, only the new items got the account bound status.Also you may convert soulbound items via an NPC. In this way the process can be kept under control.

i dont see the harm in passing a exotic to a alt once one upgrades to acceded.

@jhnsmth.2641 said:

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@jhnsmth.2641 said:Soulbound (of items) is the past, no reason to keep it anymore.

• Gear is always account bound on acquisition & only bound on stat select/equip/reskin; no more exotic weapons etc that are bound to whoever happens to find it first.
• Quest & heart items are always soulbound.
• Everything else is account bound on acquisition by default, unless there's a really good reason.

Soulbinding removes wealth through the economy precisely because we can't use exotics on are alts. It's not a "violation" of some kind; it's a policy designed to increase demand for mats and prevent an oversupply of coin. That's not "ridiculous," just annoying.

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@jhnsmth.2641 said:

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@jhnsmth.2641 said:Soulbound (of items) is the past, no reason to keep it anymore.

• Gear is always account bound on acquisition & only bound on stat select/equip/reskin; no more exotic weapons etc that are bound to whoever happens to find it first.
• Quest & heart items are always soulbound.
• Everything else is account bound on acquisition by default, unless there's a really good reason.

I think it's well deserving of "ridiculous", at least since the bigger bags in Path of Fire came in.24 slot bags, as well as the 28 slot variant are soulbound, only 32 slot bags turn account bound. You upgrade them in steps, costing you a total of 18 Supreme Runes of Holding each.If you want to use craftsman bags on anything but a tailor, or oiled bags on anything but a leatherworker, you better collect the 18 runes and craft the 32 slot bags in one go, because yeah: Soulbound bags. You can't upgrade them anymore with the crafting professions on your account, if another char uses them.That's not annoying, but ridiculously user unfriendly.

I can understand why some things may need to remain soulbound (such as things pertaining to the story that aren't supposed to be shared, actually can't think of any offhand go figure) but I absolutely agree.This is needed now more than ever imo because as more Elite specs are unlocked with more options for power, condi and support, we need to able to reasonably try out and play with different builds. You won't always have a full set of ascended for classes that are not your main. And if you did go the exotics route the inventory space it takes to carry around multiple sets with you is another downside (and you can't place soulbound items on alts).

Anyway. There's been a trend lately of account-bound exotics: Machined weapons. LS3 achievement armors. Specialization armors. Halloween Lunatic armors. I don't see the harm in expanding it.

@tekfan.3179 said:

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@jhnsmth.2641 said:

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@jhnsmth.2641 said:Soulbound (of items) is the past, no reason to keep it anymore.

• Gear is always account bound on acquisition & only bound on stat select/equip/reskin; no more exotic weapons etc that are bound to whoever happens to find it first.
• Quest & heart items are always soulbound.
• Everything else is account bound on acquisition by default, unless there's a really good reason.

If you read my post, you'd see that I don't agree with soulbinding things like the inventory bags. There's all kinds of things wrong with doing more than account-binding them (and I'm not altogether sure it's wise to bind them at all).

Regardless, my point is that, whether we like it or not, whether it's user-unfriendly or not, there is a purpose to soulbound gear. It increases demand for the mats that we sell after salvage, by artificially removing items from the economy.

@jhnsmth.2641 said:

@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

@jhnsmth.2641 said:Soulbound (of items) is the past, no reason to keep it anymore.

• Gear is always account bound on acquisition & only bound on stat select/equip/reskin; no more exotic weapons etc that are bound to whoever happens to find it first.
• Quest & heart items are always soulbound.
• Everything else is account bound on acquisition by default, unless there's a really good reason.

What he was saying is this would destroy the economy. The economy is currently balanced around the issue that you have to craft multiple sets of exotic gear, or spend a lot of extra to craft a single set of ascended. The gold sink is designed to make you choose which cost is better for you in the long run. If you make all exotic crafted in to account bound, even after equip, you will cause the cost of every material in the trade post to plummet to levels that ANet does not, and should not, want.

I would go one step further: provide something that will allow a player to removes bound status in total.they'd have to pay for it, but if one is looking to sell an item, it's not a big deal.And for the record, there are already items that cannot be sold so my idea wouldn't affect those items.

@Sojourner.4621:@Illconceived Was Na.9781:That economy balance was calculated when the player income was very low. I suppose (then) the exotics were precious items.Nowadays any (non F2P) player can get 2 golds on every day (dailys). This is a bare minimum. So he/she can get 1 or 2 or more exotics on every day.I think exotics are not really hard to get. So the inconvenience factor is much more relevant than the economy balance.I mean inconvenient to pass exotics to an alt. So this is more like an issue of (player) freedom for us. Why are we limited if it is not necessary?I do not think the economy balance (regarding the exotics if they can get account bound status) would hurt at all.