Good job nerfing core guard but buffing Rev

Great job buffing the class that had incredible burst, mobility and sustained dmg while nerfing the class that only had mediocre burst dmg to being with. Really hit the mark with this one Anet!

"Shackling Wave: The casting animation of this skill has been increased from just over 0.5 seconds to a little under 1 second to allow for better counterplay. "

Huge buffs right there but seriously are you talking about the pve only buffs or the buffs to stuff that no one actually uses because those were the only buffs revs got?

"Facet of Nature—Assassin: The power multiplier for this skill has been increased by 100%, and its base multiplier has been increased by 35%."Also, a .3 second increased cast-time before factoring in quickness is laughable at best. Especially when people have issues dodging Mighty Blow.

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:"Facet of Nature—Assassin: The power multiplier for this skill has been increased by 100%, and its base multiplier has been increased by 35%."Also, a .3 second increased cast-time before factoring in quickness is laughable at best. Especially when people have issues dodging Mighty Blow.

Was in the build but no one used it, because -3 upkeep is oppressively expensive for such a weak effect, still probably won't see much use.

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:"Facet of Nature—Assassin: The power multiplier for this skill has been increased by 100%, and its base multiplier has been increased by 35%."Also, a .3 second increased cast-time before factoring in quickness is laughable at best. Especially when people have issues dodging Mighty Blow.

No one used Assassin facets passive before, it was always and likely will still continue to be mostly used for the boonrip.

And sword 4 is a massive nerf in higher level play. Once Steadfast gets emergency nerfed ( Renegade is not allowed to be viable for longer than 48 hours ) the patch will overall be a nerf to Revs.

edit: topkek already emergency nerfed

All the revs were asking for OH sword damage nerfs and buffs to other weps so we could use other OH weapons but anet decided cast times were what needed to be changed. I'm just as frustrated with this as you OP.

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:"Facet of Nature—Assassin: The power multiplier for this skill has been increased by 100%, and its base multiplier has been increased by 35%."Also, a .3 second increased cast-time before factoring in quickness is laughable at best. Especially when people have issues dodging Mighty Blow.

tested this new shiro f2 and I can safely say, imo, it's still not worth using. It's much better to use IO instead and use shiro f2 solely for boon rip. So is it a buff? Yes, it made a somewhat useless passive a little less useless. But does it change the way revs will play? Nah, absolutely not. Also, the increased cast time on s4 is definitely felt and it makes a big difference. Rev got nerfed too, buddy.

Core guard - mediocre burst

*laughs

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:Great job buffing the class that had incredible burst, mobility and sustained dmg while nerfing the class that only had mediocre burst dmg to being with. Really hit the mark with this one Anet!

Core guardian was nerfed?! What was nerfed? The hammer changes can hardly count as a nerf and hammer sucks anyway. If you are not using GS you are doing it wrong, and that did not change at all.

@otto.5684 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:Great job buffing the class that had incredible burst, mobility and sustained dmg while nerfing the class that only had mediocre burst dmg to being with. Really hit the mark with this one Anet!

Hammer was always the stronger option in coordinated setups. It also got a pretty massive nerf too. The fact that you have to hit mighty blow to get value from the trait makes it awful to play. You could previously push that extra damage from range with zealots embrace or even smite condition.

Core guards could be tough nuts to crack at times but I don't really think they needed nerfing, especially before the patch yesterday dropped when Holosmiths were still running around with permanent quickness, crazy sustain and double Elixir S and Boonbeasts. And Boonbeast got buffed yesterday, too.

Core burst was never mediocre, but I wouldn’t mind small sustain buffs for it to compensate since it wasn’t broken.

Also rev isn’t buffed.

Where is the core guard nerf? Is it the hammer cd reduction or the still amazing glacial heart?Guards are similar to thieves, cry when nerfed, cry when buffed.

@"Lincolnbeard.1735" said:Where is the core guard nerf? Is it the hammer cd reduction or the still amazing glacial heart?Guards are similar to thieves, cry when nerfed, cry when buffed.If you have no idea about the class, don't post next time.

It was a straightforward nerf. The old Glacial Heart trait reduced hammer skills recharge by 20%. Now they moved this to hammer skills in general. At the same time, they greatly reduced the effect of Glacial Heart."The base damage of this trait has been reduced by 50%, and it can no longer critically hit." + higher CD

The build got a very slight buff to Glacial Blow (+17%) but that's negligible compared to the old effects.

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@otto.5684 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:Great job buffing the class that had incredible burst, mobility and sustained dmg while nerfing the class that only had mediocre burst dmg to being with. Really hit the mark with this one Anet!

Hammer never is or was better than GS. Over the last few month almost every core guardian switched to GS from hammer for a reason. The only thing that hammer offered over GS was a high burst setup every 36 secs that typically did not work. This role is much better served with rev, Mesmer or thief to begin with. The GS much better compliment guardian dps, as an AOE cleave.

Yes hammer is in a worse position now, but it was not exactly a good weapon before. And yes, Anet hit guardian hard on diversity this patch with hammer and mystic rebuke nerf. That was extremely dumb, but the strongest guardian dps build was not touched, and almost every other class meta build got nerfed.

@otto.5684 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@otto.5684 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:Great job buffing the class that had incredible burst, mobility and sustained dmg while nerfing the class that only had mediocre burst dmg to being with. Really hit the mark with this one Anet!

Hammer is was far superior in every way. 36 seconds for every burst? That's plain wrong. Even with minimal setup you could do massive bursts. I guess you were implying you had to wait with for Judges Intervention but that's pretty pointless.

The oneshot potential was huuuge before the nerf. Not to mention the cc abilities (knockback, immob, and aoe cross denial for rez/stomp)

Actually never seen a GS guard in proper AT games.

@rank eleven monk.9502 said:

@"Lincolnbeard.1735" said:Where is the core guard nerf? Is it the hammer cd reduction or the still amazing glacial heart?Guards are similar to thieves, cry when nerfed, cry when buffed.If you have no idea about the class, don't post next time.

Aww so sweet...Would it be perfect if everyone post only if played the classprofession, including the hate spewing OP against mes and this time against revs?Instead of traiting glacial to reduce hammer, you got that baseline.17% more damage on glacial blow.The 50% reduced damage on trait was for a bunch of professions, not just guard.

@BeLZedaR.4790 said:Core burst was never mediocre, but I wouldn’t mind small sustain buffs for it to compensate since it wasn’t broken.

Also rev isn’t buffed.

How do core guards need more sustain? Every core guard I face has a million blocks and can heal to full hp. I don't think guard needs any more sustain at all