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What is the current meta for Fractals?

Just came back to the game after being away for a few months, and after the recent patch I was wondering what the meta for T4s and CMs is. We used to run Chrono, Druid, 2x Eles and 1 Guardian. At the moment though we have no idea what classes we should use and what gear is required for the support classes. If anyone knows, we would appreciate some pointers. Thank you!

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  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Chrono, Druid, 2x Eles and 1 Guardian still works but you will have to use all cc available in CMs and stack properly. Fights in general don't take that long, as such the lack of permanent quickness on chrono is a minor issue. The stacking is a lot more annoying, especially with Social Awkwardness. In all, the comp will still clear everything.

    Firebrand (built with minimum boon duration of around 70% required to keep up quickness) can take the chronos place for quickness with a heal Renegade for permanent alacrity and 25 stacks of might as healer instead of the druid. This setup played properly will match and even exceed chrono druid currently.

    Strong picks for healer would also be Scourge Heal, which unfortunately lacks good boon support but otherwise has insane sustain output for the group.

    Damage dealers remain as usual: Power Dragonhunter, Power Weaver/Tempest, Power Soulbeast, Power Daredevil/Deadeye, Bannerslave, Power Holo. Just about anything works, even power reaper.

  • Can't say about CMs since I don't really do them, but most of the time in the LFG for T4s, I see "Chrono, Druid, Bannerslave, 2 DPS | pots + food" :D

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Doombringer BG.3740 said:
    Can't say about CMs since I don't really do them, but most of the time in the LFG for T4s, I see "Chrono, Druid, Bannerslave, 2 DPS | pots + food" :D

    That's due to people not wanting to adjust to a new meta.

    Firebrand+Renegade is superior to chrono+druid.

    The only upside to all this is, if this balance iteration remains in place for long enough, more people will switch to Firebrand+Renegade.

  • Laila Lightness.8742Laila Lightness.8742 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018

    @Cyninja.2954 said:

    @Doombringer BG.3740 said:
    Can't say about CMs since I don't really do them, but most of the time in the LFG for T4s, I see "Chrono, Druid, Bannerslave, 2 DPS | pots + food" :D

    That's due to people not wanting to adjust to a new meta.

    Firebrand+Renegade is superior to chrono+druid.

    The only upside to all this is, if this balance iteration remains in place for long enough, more people will switch to Firebrand+Renegade.

    Dont worry those two will be balanced as well since they dont fit the boon share ideal. XD

  • Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

  • @Setz.9675 said:
    Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

    But why have chrono then ren is superior in every way to chrono

  • @Setz.9675 said:

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:
    Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

    But why have chrono then ren is superior in every way to chrono

    for chrono utility like portals, pulls, skipping etc

    But then do you have a problem with the up keep of might ? I mean rev can keep it up I think easier then fb

  • Laila Lightness.8742Laila Lightness.8742 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018

    @Lord of the Fire.6870 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:
    Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

    But why have chrono then ren is superior in every way to chrono

    for chrono utility like portals, pulls, skipping etc

    But then do you have a problem with the up keep of might ? I mean rev can keep it up I think easier then fb

    People cant let chrono die why cant they just accept chrono +druid is over and fb+ren meta is here to stay. Like uttility and portal is not really a reason. Its obvius that anet wanted a meta comp change. Until they balance fb and ren too XD. For honestly if 1 tactic is good anet will nerf it.

  • Lord of the Fire.6870Lord of the Fire.6870 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Lord of the Fire.6870 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:
    Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

    But why have chrono then ren is superior in every way to chrono

    for chrono utility like portals, pulls, skipping etc

    But then do you have a problem with the up keep of might ? I mean rev can keep it up I think easier then fb

    People cant let chrono die why cant they just accept chrono +druid is over and fb+ren meta is here to stay. Like uttility and portal is not really a reason. Its obvius that anet wanted a meta comp change. Until they balance fb and ren too XD

    You can also take with you an DPS chrono for portals and pull so chrono isn't dead completely also its really hard to find someone who can play FB or Rev in fractals and raids and yes it is also super risky to built one now. Not only can they nerf the builds in a not so future patch and at least one of them you will find yourself in a position were you can change all stats again in a month.

    Arena NET's silence here delays changes of the meta even further which increase the frustration getting so many players change their class they play is in itself a feat.
    Usually no MMO that is this old does such a huge change letting 2/5 of the endcontent players change their class is something you don't desire because you have many many people who say bye in the process.

  • @Lord of the Fire.6870 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:
    Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

    But why have chrono then ren is superior in every way to chrono

    for chrono utility like portals, pulls, skipping etc

    But then do you have a problem with the up keep of might ? I mean rev can keep it up I think easier then fb

    Firebrand can maintain 15 ish stacks easily, the other stacks are done by BS with the changed forcefull greatsword + phalanx strength trait and a dumpling food buff over sweet and spicy butternut squash

  • Nephalem.8921Nephalem.8921 Member ✭✭✭

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    Chrono, Druid, 2x Eles and 1 Guardian still works but you will have to use all cc available in CMs and stack properly. Fights in general don't take that long, as such the lack of permanent quickness on chrono is a minor issue. The stacking is a lot more annoying, especially with Social Awkwardness. In all, the comp will still clear everything.

    Firebrand (built with minimum boon duration of around 70% required to keep up quickness) can take the chronos place for quickness with a heal Renegade for permanent alacrity and 25 stacks of might as healer instead of the druid. This setup played properly will match and even exceed chrono druid currently.

    Strong picks for healer would also be Scourge Heal, which unfortunately lacks good boon support but otherwise has insane sustain output for the group.

    Damage dealers remain as usual: Power Dragonhunter, Power Weaver/Tempest, Power Soulbeast, Power Daredevil/Deadeye, Bannerslave, Power Holo. Just about anything works, even power reaper.

    Fights are like 50% of the total time spend. Sometimes less. Chrono is there for double/triple portals + blinks on top of boons for bosses. You will also lack stealth for stuff like TO or underground facility.
    Doing TO without portals is a total pain anyways.

    Meta is something like Chrono, Bs, Slb, dh, Weaver for general purpose if you have a static or good pug. Taking a healer is safer but cm kills need like double the time.
    The slb can also carry a healing set for cancer fractals/instabilities to switch on demand.
    If you don't use portals and use a healer the firebrand + rene comp would be better but as soon as you play fractals with portals in mind you really can't do the strats without a mesmer anymore.
    Fractals are not raids. Going for highest dps is not the fastest way to do them. Utility for skips is quite important and rene or fb have nothing in that area.

  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:
    Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

    But why have chrono then ren is superior in every way to chrono

    In a few months time where there are sufficient amount of practiced and skilled Revs as there are/were of Chronos, sure. But until then I'd rather a Chrono who has practiced their class in T4s and live with less, than dealing with a Rev player trying to find their way in the meta.

    @Setz.9675 said:

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:
    Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

    But why have chrono then ren is superior in every way to chrono

    for chrono utility like portals, pulls, skipping etc

    And there is that. Portals and Focus Pulls are pretty awesome.

    I'm not a stickler for metas. I normally asked for "heals" in LFG rather than Druid, but now I run fractals with the same Druid each night, and we're not struggling anymore than we were a week ago so I see no reason to switch. I

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018

    @Nephalem.8921 said:

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    Chrono, Druid, 2x Eles and 1 Guardian still works but you will have to use all cc available in CMs and stack properly. Fights in general don't take that long, as such the lack of permanent quickness on chrono is a minor issue. The stacking is a lot more annoying, especially with Social Awkwardness. In all, the comp will still clear everything.

    Firebrand (built with minimum boon duration of around 70% required to keep up quickness) can take the chronos place for quickness with a heal Renegade for permanent alacrity and 25 stacks of might as healer instead of the druid. This setup played properly will match and even exceed chrono druid currently.

    Strong picks for healer would also be Scourge Heal, which unfortunately lacks good boon support but otherwise has insane sustain output for the group.

    Damage dealers remain as usual: Power Dragonhunter, Power Weaver/Tempest, Power Soulbeast, Power Daredevil/Deadeye, Bannerslave, Power Holo. Just about anything works, even power reaper.

    Fights are like 50% of the total time spend. Sometimes less. Chrono is there for double/triple portals + blinks on top of boons for bosses. You will also lack stealth for stuff like TO or underground facility.
    Doing TO without portals is a total pain anyways.

    If only there was an item which works similar to portal for an experienced group...

    Oh wait, there is: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/White_Mantle_Portal_Device

  • Vinceman.4572Vinceman.4572 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cyninja.2954 said:

    @Nephalem.8921 said:

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    Chrono, Druid, 2x Eles and 1 Guardian still works but you will have to use all cc available in CMs and stack properly. Fights in general don't take that long, as such the lack of permanent quickness on chrono is a minor issue. The stacking is a lot more annoying, especially with Social Awkwardness. In all, the comp will still clear everything.

    Firebrand (built with minimum boon duration of around 70% required to keep up quickness) can take the chronos place for quickness with a heal Renegade for permanent alacrity and 25 stacks of might as healer instead of the druid. This setup played properly will match and even exceed chrono druid currently.

    Strong picks for healer would also be Scourge Heal, which unfortunately lacks good boon support but otherwise has insane sustain output for the group.

    Damage dealers remain as usual: Power Dragonhunter, Power Weaver/Tempest, Power Soulbeast, Power Daredevil/Deadeye, Bannerslave, Power Holo. Just about anything works, even power reaper.

    Fights are like 50% of the total time spend. Sometimes less. Chrono is there for double/triple portals + blinks on top of boons for bosses. You will also lack stealth for stuff like TO or underground facility.
    Doing TO without portals is a total pain anyways.

    If only there was an item which works similar to portal for an experienced group...

    Oh wait, there is: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/White_Mantle_Portal_Device

    The problem is that you would need to organize the portals due to not getting the full cooldown back. I'm not saying that this is not possible but a thing more that becomes unhandy. (Nothing to whine from my side as I can also live without mass-portaling since even compared to very good groups with all possible skips I haven't lost more than 1-2 minutes per fractal when we haven't used them. Paths in Cliffside, TO, Aether etc. are not that long tbh.)

  • Asum.4960Asum.4960 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lord of the Fire.6870 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:
    Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

    But why have chrono then ren is superior in every way to chrono

    for chrono utility like portals, pulls, skipping etc

    But then do you have a problem with the up keep of might ? I mean rev can keep it up I think easier then fb

    Staff 4 (Empower) and the Quickness Mantra (Mantra of Potence) is usually enough to keep up 25 Stacks, at least when you can prestack, especially with other random Might applications floating around.

    Otherwise, you can swap out Honorable Staff for Empowering Might, but it's generally not needed.

    Especially with Dragonhunters, since they get Might constantly while having Retaliation, and FB providing perma retal, it's no issue at all, even in splits.

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  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vinceman.4572 said:

    @Cyninja.2954 said:

    @Nephalem.8921 said:

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    Chrono, Druid, 2x Eles and 1 Guardian still works but you will have to use all cc available in CMs and stack properly. Fights in general don't take that long, as such the lack of permanent quickness on chrono is a minor issue. The stacking is a lot more annoying, especially with Social Awkwardness. In all, the comp will still clear everything.

    Firebrand (built with minimum boon duration of around 70% required to keep up quickness) can take the chronos place for quickness with a heal Renegade for permanent alacrity and 25 stacks of might as healer instead of the druid. This setup played properly will match and even exceed chrono druid currently.

    Strong picks for healer would also be Scourge Heal, which unfortunately lacks good boon support but otherwise has insane sustain output for the group.

    Damage dealers remain as usual: Power Dragonhunter, Power Weaver/Tempest, Power Soulbeast, Power Daredevil/Deadeye, Bannerslave, Power Holo. Just about anything works, even power reaper.

    Fights are like 50% of the total time spend. Sometimes less. Chrono is there for double/triple portals + blinks on top of boons for bosses. You will also lack stealth for stuff like TO or underground facility.
    Doing TO without portals is a total pain anyways.

    If only there was an item which works similar to portal for an experienced group...

    Oh wait, there is: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/White_Mantle_Portal_Device

    The problem is that you would need to organize the portals due to not getting the full cooldown back. I'm not saying that this is not possible but a thing more that becomes unhandy. (Nothing to whine from my side as I can also live without mass-portaling since even compared to very good groups with all possible skips I haven't lost more than 1-2 minutes per fractal when we haven't used them. Paths in Cliffside, TO, Aether etc. are not that long tbh.)

    Oh I agree, but if we are talking speedrun strats and absolute top of the line skips, people will have the White Mantle Portal device.

  • @Cyninja.2954 said:
    If only there was an item which works similar to portal for an experienced group...

    Oh wait, there is: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/White_Mantle_Portal_Device

    Can you for the love of god stop implying that portal is as good as a double blink portal? THANK YOU.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @rabenpriester.7129 said:

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    If only there was an item which works similar to portal for an experienced group...

    Oh wait, there is: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/White_Mantle_Portal_Device

    Can you for the love of god stop implying that portal is as good as a double blink portal? THANK YOU.

    It is more than enough for a standard run of fractals. Not sure how often you double blink portal through fractals in your static. How many skips are there per day that require double blink portal exactly? That is beyond the first which can be done with the WMPD.

  • rabenpriester.7129rabenpriester.7129 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018

    Blinks + Portal: Aetherblade, cliffside, Chaos, Underground Facility, Deepstone, Molten Furnace, Thaumanova (if you can't solo heat), Twilight Oasis

    Portal: 100cm b1 + skip to b2

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 19, 2018

    @rabenpriester.7129 said:
    Blinks + Portal: Aetherblade, cliffside, Chaos, Underground Facility, Deepstone, Molten Furnace, Thaumanova (if you can't solo heat), Twilight Oasis

    Portal: 100cm b1 + skip to b2

    Aetherblade, Chaos, UF, Deepstone, MF, TO - time saved is minimal. A stronger comp will shave that time off during fights
    Cliffside - yup, portals are useful. Thief can do the final skip to boss, party members can WMPD on last 2 sigils
    Thaumanove - if your group can't solo the heat room, you are not among the top 1%

    I didn't say WMPD is as good as portal. I said it can replace it in a decent group. Sure, if you are down to saving every last second AND perform superb on fights, portal can potentially save you 3-4 minutes (which adds up to a lot when doing fractals daily).

    Any group below the top 1% will benefit a lot more from the solid performance of FB and Renegade and the safety the comp provides versus chrono+druid.

  • Eramonster.2718Eramonster.2718 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Lord of the Fire.6870 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:
    Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

    But why have chrono then ren is superior in every way to chrono

    for chrono utility like portals, pulls, skipping etc

    But then do you have a problem with the up keep of might ? I mean rev can keep it up I think easier then fb

    People cant let chrono die why cant they just accept chrono +druid is over and fb+ren meta is here to stay. Like uttility and portal is not really a reason. Its obvius that anet wanted a meta comp change. Until they balance fb and ren too XD. For honestly if 1 tactic is good anet will nerf it.

    Chrono is still viable in frac. Combat is short and mistlock refreshing SoI etc along the way helps. Rene does lower dmg while supporting compared to chrono. Chrono just have too much tools in their kit (pulls, portal, reliable cc etc) to give up on for Rene. Druid is still a good choice(beginners friendly) if the group have problem sustaining basic boons(might, fury, regen etc) especially when combat stretches too long for boons upkeep.

    More of tuning down chrono which is essential for all meta. A class that requires multiple boon sharing class to replace. Easier to work around it in raids but tricky in fractals due to slots availability.

  • Zhaid Zhem.6508Zhaid Zhem.6508 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2018

    Issue with current meta, particulary in fractals PUG : people copy it but can't play it.
    Mesmer has good utilities, chrono rotation is not that hard; but it's not intuitive. How many times we waited for a chrono, and the guy was just a burden, without prebuff on Mistlock Singularity and one or two wells for 10sec quickness and alacrity at best... And how many chrono players know how to skip ????
    Same with druid : frost spirit, sun or stone spirit, spotter, GoE, mights, healing ? If you can have 3 you can consider your group lucky.

    Chrono is still very effective for the short phased fights, with prebuff and for utility (pull, portals, distor, etc)
    Druid is not mandatory; no constant heals, and the power buffs are not worth losing a DPS role in the group. Chrono harrier or minstrel can take this role of "dedicated" healer.
    FB has easier rotation (because no rotation at all) and better healing; and because Aegis spam is just completly broken. If you can pass out alacrity, it replaces easily chrono+druid (or chrono heal), but it needs the war or others to help maintain the 25 mights.
    Renegade/Herald is not worth in 5 man group, because Quickness > alacrity; or it needs a hybrid FB or a chrono (but in that case druid is a better option)

    I suppose "uber" players will still play chono + war + 3 DPS (weaver, soulbeast, DH, DD... )
    For PUG IMO FB + war + 3 DPS seems a very strong and safe composition. Ren + FB, or FB + chrono, Chrono + druid if people can't give to much confidence in others skillful or alacrity is "mandatory".

  • The FB and Rev is one variant like I said in the other thread they FB and Rev and especially rev are hard to come by in PvE
    Most suggest DPS Chrono + SoI in this meta . Easier variant is the old meta + DPS chrono

    Means you either play :
    Druid, Chrono, Dps Chrono, BS(kinda optional), DPS
    or
    FB, Rev , DPS Chrono , BS (optional), Soulbeast with Spirits(optional)

    With the later is still the question what setup for FB and Rev both are healers with harrier stats. You can run FB as condi dps but then you lose stabi also FB is the better healer I think.

    I did run the old meta + DPS chrono the boons were all up with this its not as good as before the patch but good enough. I think when you combine it with FB and rev you get absolute over duration on you boons when you then also run both Rev and FB as harrier then you also get over heal . This is so crazy

    Its more likely to run with the old meta and simply search and DPS Chrono too.

  • Eramonster.2718Eramonster.2718 Member ✭✭✭✭

    FB - for boons. (SP for aegis :smile: , or DPS) and BS - banners and vulnerability stacks. (static)

    • 2-3 DPS
      Chrono/ Rev for wells/ alacrity. (Chrono > Rev, since I have yet to met a decent Rev in Fracs or having 2 SP (with FB) is a waste.)
      Soulbeast Stance share: Bear, OWP - optional or as alternative for BS (BS is much more reliable for vulnerability.)
  • Jeknar.6184Jeknar.6184 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 1, 2019

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Lord of the Fire.6870 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:

    @Laila Lightness.8742 said:

    @Setz.9675 said:
    Chrono, FB, BS, Guard, ele is pretty kitten smooth tbh.

    But why have chrono then ren is superior in every way to chrono

    for chrono utility like portals, pulls, skipping etc

    But then do you have a problem with the up keep of might ? I mean rev can keep it up I think easier then fb

    People cant let chrono die why cant they just accept chrono +druid is over and fb+ren meta is here to stay. Like uttility and portal is not really a reason. Its obvius that anet wanted a meta comp change. Until they balance fb and ren too XD. For honestly if 1 tactic is good anet will nerf it.

    Chrono+Druid may be over, but when I have a Firebrand instead of a Druid, I can let him handle the Quickness and run Well of Recall with Mimic and SoI to focus on keeping alacrity and helping extend the boons given by the FB. When Diviner stats comes I'll even be much more DPS oriented than I'm currently am since I'm forced to run Commander's if I want a good alacrity output from the Well and Tides of Time.

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  • Klipso.8653Klipso.8653 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Is support FB welcome in high fractals yet? Normally I run chrono, but FB is more fun.

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  • stone cold.8609stone cold.8609 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 1, 2019

    I'm seeing a lot more of them in T4s over the last week or so and also starting to see LFG asking for them as well. They seem to be doing well and are welcome in the runs I've done with them.

  • Jeknar.6184Jeknar.6184 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Klipso.8653 said:
    Is support FB welcome in high fractals yet? Normally I run chrono, but FB is more fun.

    Firebrand is a solid choice if you have someone to give alacrity in the party (Renegade or Chronomancer)

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  • Henry.5713Henry.5713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Been trying different stuff lately and I currently prefer FB/Chrono/2DPS/pWar or even 3DPS.

    Provides all of the boons and healing you'd ever want considering the great synergy between having almost all boons on FB (minus alacrity) and increasing the duration of said all boons by the Chronomancer. Plus the option to have solid Boon Removal (No Pain No Gain) from, again, the Chronomancer which in turn allows your warriors to stay on the Core build for better damage and more stable CC or leaves you free to replace the warrior entirely.
    It is probably the best duo of supports if you wish to cover pretty much everything outside of damage (perma boons, CC, good healing, stability, some damage modifiers with Bane Signet, Boon Removal, portal, and more) while being able to cope with even the most annoying combination of instabilities. Pretty much why I prefer it over all other combinations of supports. There is also the option to gear more heavily into damage without sacraficing too much support and if you intend to push speed further.

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  • Wark.8324Wark.8324 Member ✭✭

    In essence, it really don't matter what team composition you have in tier 4 fractals.
    As long as people are aware of the instability effects and the damage gets done without people going down. Knowing mechanics > builds.
    "Afflicted?" A couple people bring condi removal, all good.
    "Social Awkwardness?" Maybe a scourge to help keep people in the game, since barrier ignores agony's healing reduction. Direct healing will be less effective.

    Things like that.
    Although, I am surprised people don't take Reapers more often.
    A good one with blood magic doesn't go down, gets others up fast, and I like using mine for boon removal on "No Pain, No Gain."

  • @Wark.8324 said:
    In essence, it really don't matter what team composition you have in tier 4 fractals.
    As long as people are aware of the instability effects and the damage gets done without people going down. Knowing mechanics > builds.
    "Afflicted?" A couple people bring condi removal, all good.
    "Social Awkwardness?" Maybe a scourge to help keep people in the game, since barrier ignores agony's healing reduction. Direct healing will be less effective.

    Things like that.
    Although, I am surprised people don't take Reapers more often.
    A good one with blood magic doesn't go down, gets others up fast, and I like using mine for boon removal on "No Pain, No Gain."

    People are aware that they can nearly run every fractal with random classes. The point of a or the meta in pve is time reduction means they are for farming for the most part. Things break a bit down when you encounter a hard enrage timer like in fractal 100 and then really when you are in the cm mode the choices aren't as easy then because time becomes essential.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭

    there are no any stable meta 1:1
    but everyone can choose something from:
    4 scrourge + druid
    4 scrourge + crho or supp
    bs+dudu+crho + 2 pdps
    fb+rene+bs + 2 pdps
    3 dps + boon sup + heal
    4 dps + 1 heal
    chill run (everyone who want)

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