You encounter a 1v1 (enemy vs server mate) anywhere on the map, what do you do? — Guild Wars 2 Forums

You encounter a 1v1 (enemy vs server mate) anywhere on the map, what do you do?

Out of curiosity as it happened to me a few times thatI was fighting an enemy (e.g. on his way to our camp) and then 1-2 Server mates appeared, watching and doing nothing.

You encounter a 1v1 (enemy vs server mate) anywhere on the map, what do you do? 215 votes

I jump in to help my sever mate independently of where the 1v1 is occurring.
20% 43 votes
I jump in to help my server mate but only if it is not on a known duelling spot and several other ppl from different servers are already watching.
36% 78 votes
I won't help my server mate. If he loses the 1v1 it is his own fault for being a bad player. I will let the enemy stomp him if he loses.
2% 6 votes
I won't help my server mate but will try to rezz him if he loses.
25% 54 votes
I will ask my server mate if he needs help (e.g. via wispering) and help him if he wants to.
5% 11 votes
I will ignore the 1v1 and walk away.
10% 23 votes
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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dawdler.8521 said:
    Uuuuuuugh I wont even vote on a private poll on duels anymore, this has been regurgitated over and over and the same arguments - ie literally every argument - will get thrown around again.

    Are you saying this has been done Ad Nauseum? :grin:

    Yeah, gotta agree that no good will come of it.

  • Curunen.8729Curunen.8729 Member ✭✭✭✭

    As has been said it's entirely situational and impossible to make a general statement.

    Personally, if the ally is winning I tend to let them do it, unless a second enemy joins.

    If the ally is losing and it's clearly not a duel, I'll step in - but depends on the enemy behaviour - if they run or behave in a "friendly" manner I'll respond in kind and let them go (ie they won vs the ally) so will just res. If they continue to attack will go for the kill.

    But it depends on so many other factors - ie recognising players, against certain classes (eg won't be lenient on a deadeye as could easily come back), location/objective, third server nearby, etc.

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  • Usually, I just sit and watch. Whether it's an actual dual or fight to the death, my interrupting won't help things especially in the case of the latter. Sure, I could help to kill the enemy but that's not what I mean.

    1v1s are a part of WvW, whether you look for them or not. I figure that the less I get involved, the more my server mate will learn and potentially improve upon for the next time around.

    I don't expect everyone to become top tier roamers but as long as you're in Open World PvP, you're gonna be put in 1v1 situations. So it's better for people to learn how to handle them rather than constantly being helped to success.

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  • Fat Disgrace.4275Fat Disgrace.4275 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2019

    Poorly worded options there.

    Depends. In the open (3k range from any sentry) then it's down to him to win the 1v1, nothing to do with me.

    At a camp, ofc I will jump in and will use any dirty trick I can do (even throw stealth painter)

    At duel spots I will res.

  • Prinzsecond.4863Prinzsecond.4863 Member ✭✭
    edited January 8, 2019

    Cool, ty for your Responses. I am Aware that it was discussed over and over, I am also not interested in arguments, just wanted some statistics as I couldn't find similar polls with searching, but maybe I was too stupid or did not search enough.

    Fat Disgrace, your answer reflects basically #2, with the Addition that if he doesn't come "near you" or any sentry you won't help.

  • Prinzsecond.4863Prinzsecond.4863 Member ✭✭
    edited January 8, 2019

    @Justine.6351 said:
    Where is "jump on a cannon" option?. If you are going to +1 do it right!

    Helping is helping, Independent if from a siege or not i'd say. so Count jump on a Canon as jump in ^^

  • Red is dead, simple

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  • enkidu.5937enkidu.5937 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2019

    Help if he is losing, no help, if he is winning. Except on duelling spots.

    When I have a 1vs1, and another player from my server is approaching, I recklessly go full offense, to make sure, the enemy cannot escape. If I get downed because of that, no prob, but from time to time, i realize, that that guy from my server just refused to jump in, and so, I get killed :#

  • Optimator.3589Optimator.3589 Member ✭✭✭

    1v1? Why is that noob off pin?! :confused:

    REDUCE NA TO 3 TIERS

  • It depends on which server mate it is. I've been on my current server long enough to know the people that are looking for duels, and the ones that are just looking to fight anyone and everyone. That being said, no matter who it is, if my server mate is clearly winning, I won't jump in.

  • Etterwyn.5263Etterwyn.5263 Member ✭✭✭

    I look for some of the obvious tells. If there’s a crowd watching, it’s a duel. If they stop fighting and bow, or jump up and down, it’s a duel, and I keep going. If I can’t conclusively tell it’s a duel, I will +1.

    I still think Anet is missing out on some gem sales by not putting a Duelist Tag in the store.

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  • I have server mates? My server is dead. It's not uncommon for me to steal 6 camps and log out without meeting a soul lol.

  • Hitman.5829Hitman.5829 Member ✭✭✭✭

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  • nativity.3057nativity.3057 Member ✭✭✭

    before i ress i always throw siege (minimum 5) on my servermate.

  • ArchonWing.9480ArchonWing.9480 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Most sensible duelers know where to duel and how to make it obvious they're dueling. If they can't, or duel in stupid places, that's really not anyone's problem.

  • avey.4201avey.4201 Member ✭✭

    If your 1v2 expect I'll drop bombs, but 1v1 I'll let you 2 enjoy your fight, likewise if I see 2 enemies beating up 1 other enemy I'll line up a good strike on the 2 or pull one of them over to me. Take the time to enjoy your 1v1's that's how you learn and get better, most often enemies like to outnumber people, and it isn't fun except rare cases.
    Remember enemies are people too, though some do need a good killing.
    There's nothing wrong with losing, and no one wins them all.
    Respect your enemy if you want them to continue playing with you.

  • whoknocks.4935whoknocks.4935 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Usually I watch out the fight and see how it goes, I don't like to interfere with a 1vs1 happening.
    Even tho WvW it's not a 1vs1 gamemode and it's warzone, people having random 1vs1s around the map will become better at the game and better roamers.
    If you interfere and make it a 2vs1 you will just become a worse player, even a blind monkey can make a 2vs1, and if in future you will find yourself in a 1vs1 you will be at disadvantage because you are used to be a trash outnumbering ganker.

    I interfere only if the fight happens inside a camp, or tower to prevent or capture an objective.
    Or I interfere if the enemy guy I see was toxic in whisper with me.

    In all the other cases, around the map I ignore every single 1vs1 I see and let them have fun and try to ress if my server mate loses.

    There is no good or bad thing to do, it's just about personal preference how you wanna play the game, personally I don't like being a trash ganker who chase 1 guy 10vs1 for minutes around the map just to get the kill, if you play in a group of 2 or more people go kitten get objective and don't be a kitten who gank every single guy alone.

  • I always let a 1v1 take it's course. I don't care if they want help or not because I'm not obligated to do anything. If I'm having a 1v1 or if I'm being ganked, I never expect help and I feel others should think the same. The sooner you know you only have yourself to depend on the harder you'll fight and the better you'll feel if you succeed. Team game or not, the death of one player whether enemy or ally makes very little difference. If people want to outnumber every chance they get, by all means, it's how most people play. If some of us like myself prefer not to, the only thing it risks damaging is an ego.

    Maybe my perspective is a little strange but I don't have any negative intentions when I stand by and watch. I'm not doing it to watch my teammate struggle or something, I just think it's more polite to let them enjoy the intensity of their fight. If my ally hates me for it, so be it. I've found it's better to gain the favor of enemies than it is allies anyway.

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  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 9, 2019

    I never kno these days. Other night saw an ally chasing someone down so I joined him, we fought the opponent but ally was downed after couple seconds and I figured Rezing him would be a mistake so I kept fighting opponent. Just before I downed opponent my ally wrote idiot in chat bubble and respawned himself before I could Rez

  • I will ignore 1 against 1, with one exception - if the opponent of my ally is a thief. I will surely help my ally to kill the thief) I don't like this class)

  • Hevoskuuri.3891Hevoskuuri.3891 Member ✭✭✭

    I'll sit on the side and watch. If my ally is winning, I'll do nothing, but if the enemy is going for a stomp then I interfere. If my ally goes down and the enemy backs off, I'll res my ally and continue watching/challenge the enemy myself.

  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 9, 2019

    There are some factors I consider:

    1.) Is it a spot appropriate to duel
    2.) Are they fighting for or on a node
    3.) Are there people watching

    Sometimes I will watch and see if there is a stomp. If someone initiates one, ill step in full force as you dont stomp in a duel.

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  • EUmad.7645EUmad.7645 Member ✭✭

    If i see a player doing 1vs1 , in a known dueling spot, even with other people waiting, i do nothing . If it is instead in other place i usually help . the place makes the difference. If i know or suspect it is a duel, why should i disturb them playing ?

  • LetoII.3782LetoII.3782 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If I see a 1v1 I'll watch from somewhat close.
    If dude wants help he'll come closer by me, if not I'll watch or continue on my way.
    Or not, mood depending. It's open pvp and the Eula doesn't cover duelling.

    [HUNT] the predatory instinct

  • Henry.5713Henry.5713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    A Red Name is a Dead Name. Do whatever you want. Never get salty if you get jumped by multiple people either. It is up to you to decide whether you abide by these supposed community rules. Rules which people can't even seem to fully agree on, looking at the evidence set by this discussion, are of little consequence in the end.

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  • Hmm, i see, so that's why when i am roaming alone to get my participation up and suddenly encounter an enemy, my server mate only watching because he thought we were dueling while actually i want to avoid any duels

  • Arheundel.6451Arheundel.6451 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I shout : "For the glory of WSR" ..then engage whatever is in front of me

    -A wise man once said- "Fight cheese with cheese or be cheesed in return, mind not those who will accuse you of being a cheese as they like cheese themselves"

  • Very interesting results up to know :) If we summarize it up it is currently 45 votes for helping, 45 votes for not helping and 6 votes for asking first. Didn't think it will be this balanced.

  • steki.1478steki.1478 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'll pop nuhoch tonic and drop siege on whoever goes down first.

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  • EremiteAngel.9765EremiteAngel.9765 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This is such a hard question!

    I was just riding around on my warclaw kitty earlier when I encountered a Condi Mirage (my server) fighting a Power Rev (enemy server) near the ruins.
    It was a 1 vs 1 and likely a random encounter.
    I chose to sit aside and watch them fight because:

    • Roaming 1 vs 1 fights are so rare these days. As an ex-roamer myself, if I had a 1 vs 1 encounter, I wouldn't have wanted anyone to intervene!
    • My server side was a Condi Mirage and they tend to have an advantage against Revs even in this anti-condi meta.

    True enough, my server side Condi Mirage was winning but it was a close margin as the Rev was putting up a strong fight.

    However, towards the end of the fight, 2 enemy roamers on the Rev's side happened to ride by and intervened, killing my server side's Mirage before I could jump in too.

    I feel bad now that I had stood aside to let them 1 vs 1.
    If I had intervened sooner, we could have killed the Rev and took on the other 2 enemy roamers that came by later in a 2 on 2.

    This is so sad!

  • GDchiaScrub.3241GDchiaScrub.3241 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I panic. Duh.

    D:

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  • alain.1659alain.1659 Member ✭✭✭

    Depends on the enemy, ally, place, time and the situation.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I turn into a snowman and slowly creep up on them.

  • Hitman.5829Hitman.5829 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 16, 2019

    Where is the option:

    • I jump in because I despise gankers in WvW and most likely the enemy has ganked me before, So he deserves it.

    I used to have mercy on these 1 vs 1 duels, but not anymore since WvW has turned into a gank fest. I kill everything that moves, including ambient creatures!

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  • ArchonWing.9480ArchonWing.9480 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ni In.6578 said:
    Tag up and bring 20 to the duel.

    Good gvg.

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭

    I would try to kill the enemy player if it seemed favorable. Only logical thing to do in an open world pvp area.

    No longer playing the game due to PvP being abandon.

  • Westenev.5289Westenev.5289 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Even if I see a 1v1, I'll try to make sure my team mate doesn't get stomped at the very least. If the enemy doesn't like that, then it's no longer a 1v1.

  • everyman.4375everyman.4375 Member ✭✭✭

    I just help even if it's on a duelling spot, after that if the guy pm me to say that i ruinned his duel i'll just act like i don't know about the "spots".

  • HazyDaisy.4107HazyDaisy.4107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Sit back, mounted up with a stopwatch and time how long it takes the fight guilds to come along.

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  • Depends on if I know the server mate. If I don't know them, then I assume they are a dueler, in which case, they are not my ally. (Lesson learned.)

  • DanAlcedo.3281DanAlcedo.3281 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 18, 2019

    No answer of the poll is the right one for me.

    If its a 1on1 in a known duel location, i look at both players.
    If one is a allied zergling i help.
    If its a duel between roamer/duelists i let them.

    If it on a random location i always help.

  • Poormany.4507Poormany.4507 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2019

    Grab the nearest cannon or mortar and shell away XD

    If you're gonna duel, pls do it away from SM, forts, or towers in an empty area.

  • Sanity Obscure.6054Sanity Obscure.6054 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 21, 2019

    "stop"

    "Please stop"

    Angry whispers after the other team gets ganked

    O I am laffin

  • whoknocks.4935whoknocks.4935 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The introduction of mounts created so many coward players.
    90% of players just pass through your hitbox and run away because they don't wanna fight.
    As soon they see you are getting attacked, they join back like cowards to secure the kill ganking you in an outnumbered situation.
    Why those coward players can choose to skip a fight and instead I can't force them to have the fight?
    Remove completely the hp from mounts and as soon you get even 1 damage hit, you get dismounted.
    Leave the mount as a travelling utility only.
    Give people more tools to fight and not coward tools to escape fight or encourage trash ganking.
    I always watch 1vs1s and leave them alone and ready to join if a trash ganker comes to outnumber my server mate.

  • L A T I O N.8923L A T I O N.8923 Member ✭✭✭

    @whoknocks.4935 said:
    The introduction of mounts created so many coward players.
    90% of players just pass through your hitbox and run away because they don't wanna fight.
    As soon they see you are getting attacked, they join back like cowards to secure the kill ganking you in an outnumbered situation.
    Why those coward players can choose to skip a fight and instead I can't force them to have the fight?
    Remove completely the hp from mounts and as soon you get even 1 damage hit, you get dismounted.
    Leave the mount as a travelling utility only.
    Give people more tools to fight and not coward tools to escape fight or encourage trash ganking.
    I always watch 1vs1s and leave them alone and ready to join if a trash ganker comes to outnumber my server mate.

    I Imagine the downside for blue on ebg on this

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