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Are Anet using AI ?

Tomo.8324Tomo.8324 Member ✭✭
edited January 10, 2019 in PVP

Are Anet using Ai bots in pvp to keep the illusion of population ?
Asking the players, i don't expect Anet to admit it :-D
I've had a total of 1413 Ranked games this season across 2 accounts, seeing the same bots over n over again
Most teams seem to have 2 or 3 bots in them, or players not knowing they are bots, and backing up the bots in pointless fights
Reports don't seem to work, so logic tells me Anet know of the bots & Maybe even running them ?
I'm sure I'm not on my own noticing the win loss ratios are 50/50 no matter what u do to climb or better your chances
You have an EZ win or a hard fought loss, not many games have any competitive aspect any more.....
Many people put this down to New players chasing rewards in pvp, but surly by the time they have reached the lvl to join ranked matches, they know the basics of pvp
Even though there are no formal objective training in the lobby >.< most pvper know points mean prizes, Not players
but these team mates just seem to want to fight any thing that attacks them, to the point they will chase them around the map all game
I've even had them run straight past me whilst holding points just because i didn't attack them
But i must admit i thought this was just gold farming in ranked problem, in till the season ended and went to unranked and found just the same game play >.<
No matter Who is controlling the bots, the end result is clear to see
NONE competitive matches,
DISCORD in the teams, no matter how much u RAGE @ them :-D THEY don't listen, it just gets u reported >.<
LOWER Population in pvp, more bots per game >.<
Gone are the days when the meta builds or class mattered, its just who can keep the bots busy the longest.....
on the upside no one needs to complain about balance now its null n void :-D
I cant be on my own seeing this stuff, pls tell us u'r experiences
Tomo :-D

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  • phokus.8934phokus.8934 Member ✭✭✭

    @Tomo.8324 said:
    Are Anet using Ai bots in pvp to keep the illusion of population ?
    I've had a total of 14113 Ranked games this season across 2 accounts, seeing the same bots over n over again

    Are you a bot?

  • Alatar.7364Alatar.7364 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tomo.8324 said:
    I've had a total of 14113 Ranked games this season across 2 accounts

    Sorry, all I saw in this post was this

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  • Solori.6025Solori.6025 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Alatar.7364 said:

    @Tomo.8324 said:
    I've had a total of 14113 Ranked games this season across 2 accounts

    Sorry, all I saw in this post was this

    Didn't someone in another post math out that even having 3k games a season would mean they would have to be on near 24/7.

    Tingle my stingleberry

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I find players of the same quality that you’re seeing quite often in PvE. I guess those people must be bots run by Anet too?

  • Tomo.8324Tomo.8324 Member ✭✭

    lol typo BUT is 1413 muich better >.<

  • Tomo.8324Tomo.8324 Member ✭✭

    i find it odd you would defend bots > @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    I find players of the same quality that you’re seeing quite often in PvE. I guess those people must be bots run by Anet too?

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tomo.8324 said:
    i find it odd you would defend bots > @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    I find players of the same quality that you’re seeing quite often in PvE. I guess those people must be bots run by Anet too?

    I’m not.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 11, 2019

    I played a game last night and had 3 players moving in sync and triple capping empty nodes with each other...
    3 of them followed me home so I left while they triple capped it, went far with the other dude then seen the 3 of them fighting a player off point for a good 2 minutes before they lost. they ended up being farmed at spawn and then We got triple capped because me and the other guy couldn't win 2 v 4 on nodes.

    I ended up quitting at that stage, didnt think they would be in an unranked game.

    Could be bots, could be 3 pve players huddling up, who knows.

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    PvP forum members must be making a new football oval judging by the way they move the goalposts of every post.
    Please allow team queue with rewards again at our own discretion

  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Luna.6203 said:
    Pvp window next season:

    lolololol

    On a serious note though, whoever is running these bots, we should thank them. Right now those bots are allowing lower tiered players to have something to play against that they can win against. If these bots were not present, no new players would stay in the game mode after entering their first ranked match and getting mulched by some plat + player on the opposing team over and over and over. At least the bots introduce some level of learning ground for new players, keep them interested, and pretty much tie up the lower division rankings. At least this way, we have population for the algorithm to function on some bare minimal level.

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  • Delweyn.1309Delweyn.1309 Member ✭✭✭

    We> @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @Luna.6203 said:
    Pvp window next season:

    lolololol

    On a serious note though, whoever is running these bots, we should thank them. Right now those bots are allowing lower tiered players to have something to play against that they can win against. If these bots were not present, no new players would stay in the game mode after entering their first ranked match and getting mulched by some plat + player on the opposing team over and over and over. At least the bots introduce some level of learning ground for new players, keep them interested, and pretty much tie up the lower division rankings. At least this way, we have population for the algorithm to function on some bare minimal level.

    We don't know if Anet are running those bots. It's just a theory I suggested because of the "beneficial" impact it can have.

    But I'm sure that there is some human accounts that use bots too. I can see them doing fractals and story and one has more than 34k AP.

  • I think I've entered the twilight zone.

    Is you ai bot?

  • jakt.9381jakt.9381 Member ✭✭

    This is purely anecdotal but one thing I have noticed is the difference between how good players in sPvP and WvW are. In sPvP, most players are a joke and I can kill most of them with ease just by doing simple rotations. I go into WvW and I find the skill level to be MUCH different. Roamers there are much more difficult to fight, do advanced combos, reset fights, kite, etc. I always found this very strange because sPvP is by far more competitive than WvW and most WvW players are just zerg zombies.

  • @jakt.9381 said:
    This is purely anecdotal but one thing I have noticed is the difference between how good players in sPvP and WvW are. In sPvP, most players are a joke and I can kill most of them with ease just by doing simple rotations. I go into WvW and I find the skill level to be MUCH different.

    There's some attempt at matchmaking in both ranked and unranked, while there's no such attempt in wvw. I feel like the outcome you describe (most wvw players seeming like zerg zombies but the few roamers being well above your ability) is exactly what would happen without matchmaking.

  • otto.5684otto.5684 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Luna.6203 said:
    Pvp window next season:

    Select all pictures of a bus!

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @otto.5684 said:

    @Luna.6203 said:
    Pvp window next season:

    Select all pictures of a bus!

    Those are always broken for me...

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    PvP forum members must be making a new football oval judging by the way they move the goalposts of every post.
    Please allow team queue with rewards again at our own discretion

  • @voltaicbore.8012 said:

    @jakt.9381 said:
    This is purely anecdotal but one thing I have noticed is the difference between how good players in sPvP and WvW are. In sPvP, most players are a joke and I can kill most of them with ease just by doing simple rotations. I go into WvW and I find the skill level to be MUCH different.

    There's some attempt at matchmaking in both ranked and unranked, while there's no such attempt in wvw. I feel like the outcome you describe (most wvw players seeming like zerg zombies but the few roamers being well above your ability) is exactly what would happen without matchmaking.

    no mm and the fact that all stats, all runes and sigil +food and utilities allow more broken one shoot builds with no counterplay or a try of it by players that arent at least better than they

  • Tomo.8324Tomo.8324 Member ✭✭

    @jakt.9381 said:
    This is purely anecdotal but one thing I have noticed is the difference between how good players in sPvP and WvW are. In sPvP, most players are a joke and I can kill most of them with ease just by doing simple rotations. I go into WvW and I find the skill level to be MUCH different. Roamers there are much more difficult to fight, do advanced combos, reset fights, kite, etc. I always found this very strange because sPvP is by far more competitive than WvW and most WvW players are just zerg zombies.

    i think u missed the concept of pvp, players only score 5 points n u can spend minutes chasing them, u might as well hold a point for the same amount of time n score much more...
    Points mean prizes NOT players
    Point control is the main aim in pvp not player killing
    BASICS

  • Jeknar.6184Jeknar.6184 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tomo.8324 said:

    @jakt.9381 said:
    This is purely anecdotal but one thing I have noticed is the difference between how good players in sPvP and WvW are. In sPvP, most players are a joke and I can kill most of them with ease just by doing simple rotations. I go into WvW and I find the skill level to be MUCH different. Roamers there are much more difficult to fight, do advanced combos, reset fights, kite, etc. I always found this very strange because sPvP is by far more competitive than WvW and most WvW players are just zerg zombies.

    i think u missed the concept of pvp, players only score 5 points n u can spend minutes chasing them, u might as well hold a point for the same amount of time n score much more...
    Points mean prizes NOT players
    Point control is the main aim in pvp not player killing
    BASICS

    I always said that I find dumb how Stalling and Decapping worth more than actually killing people in a PvP mode...

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  • Delweyn.1309Delweyn.1309 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2019

    @Delweyn.1309 said:
    We> @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @Luna.6203 said:
    Pvp window next season:

    lolololol

    On a serious note though, whoever is running these bots, we should thank them. Right now those bots are allowing lower tiered players to have something to play against that they can win against. If these bots were not present, no new players would stay in the game mode after entering their first ranked match and getting mulched by some plat + player on the opposing team over and over and over. At least the bots introduce some level of learning ground for new players, keep them interested, and pretty much tie up the lower division rankings. At least this way, we have population for the algorithm to function on some bare minimal level.

    We don't know if Anet are running those bots. It's just a theory I suggested because of the "beneficial" impact it can have.

    But I'm sure that there is some human accounts that use bots too. I can see them doing fractals and story and one has more than 34k AP.

    And this bot user should have seen this forum because he now cames to invisible mode, but I still see him often in spvp.

    I wonder if he is a big money whale. It would explain why he is still in the game even using a bot for farming pvp all day.

  • Dahkeus.8243Dahkeus.8243 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2019

    There's some serious tinfoil hat logic going on here...
    https://imgur.com/OhsuKIE

  • I wouldn't doubt it. It keeps the content alive and keeps queue times not too long. Also allows people to indefinitely work towards the rewards without it ever being "too dead."

  • Tomo.8324Tomo.8324 Member ✭✭

    OK start of Season 15..
    Who wants to go deep down this rabbit hole :-D
    What if Anet not only control the AI, but use them as a social experiment ?
    can u imagine the Data that could be collected and sold ?
    Physiologist dream ?
    I'm not paranoid i just pay attention :-D
    SEE how this world works yet
    GL HF meet u soon :-D

  • Glider.5792Glider.5792 Member ✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @otto.5684 said:

    @Luna.6203 said:
    Pvp window next season:

    Select all pictures of a bus!

    Those are always broken for me...

    You just gave it away that you're a Robot!

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFWMeskOJhk8N-SvOFCJXA
    Fractal speed kills, raids, Black Lion Chest Openings, random.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited 9:12AM

    @Glider.5792 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @otto.5684 said:

    @Luna.6203 said:
    Pvp window next season:

    Select all pictures of a bus!

    Those are always broken for me...

    You just gave it away that you're a Robot!

    Ive been called worse lol

    But seriously, says to click on all pictures that include a bike and says its wrong when you pick the boxes with the bike wheels.

    Not to brag, but I put together a puzzle in 4 days and the box said 2-4 years.
    PvP forum members must be making a new football oval judging by the way they move the goalposts of every post.
    Please allow team queue with rewards again at our own discretion

  • derd.6413derd.6413 Member ✭✭✭✭

    this thread went from silly theories to tin foil hat conspiracies

    I Have No friends, so I Must pug

  • Fearless.3569Fearless.3569 Member ✭✭

    Bots with Weak AIs in this day and age. Are a million times better than humans at video games. Even in the eSports scene. We will start to witness a paradigm change very soon.

  • Delweyn.1309Delweyn.1309 Member ✭✭✭
    edited 10:08AM

    I will upload a video of the bot that I reported many times before. This is not an AI from Anet because it has 34923 achiev. points ATM.

    Nothing change from this point of view. Even if this player had only a bit more than 1000 matches done last season. Still here and still using it's bot with total impunity.

    For me the problem is not that bots have weak or strong Ai. The problem is that they are easily spotted and reported, and ANet are doing NOTHING about them.

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