Mentalist.1623 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Enough is enough ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy.8291 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 ABSOLUTELY agree....... Did you see my post "More Condi in WvW. Please take the poll. Nerf that garbage and fight with power and skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Alim.4176 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Or yall can just join your Condi Overlords. "If you can't beat em, join em!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jana.6831 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 @"Reaper Alim.4176" said:Or yall can just join your Condi Overlords. "If you can't beat em, join em!"Nice idea in theory, in reality is: Sleeping on your keyboard.But: Even if condi was nerfed there's a whole lot of other issues with this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trajan.4953 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The Condi kick Anet is on is pretty dull IMHO. Visceral gameplay from actual engagements is something they seem to be timid about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalist.1623 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 It's time to put an end to this high reward/low risk nobrainer playstyle. I'm tired of cleansing 10 different condies per second .I can't even use utilities for stab and stun breaks anymore because i have to be a cleanse bot to actually do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blodeuyn.2751 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 @Trajan.4953 said:The Condi kick Anet is on is pretty dull IMHO. Visceral gameplay from actual engagements is something they seem to be timid about.Dull is a good way to put it. Same stuff each encounter - I feel like I'm fighting npc. I actually had more fun hanging a new shower curtain than playing reset. It makes me really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snh.7091 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 @"Reaper Alim.4176" said:Or yall can just join your Condi Overlords. "If you can't beat em, join em!"That reminded me of Microsoft strategy - buying everything they get their hands on. It's also a way of never improving.btw OP is forgetting how this game is built - to give everyone (especially low to no skill players) an equal chance to win :D otherwise specs like a Dragonhunter would never be born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuzt.7894 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 It's more about lack of fun, the new stuff wouldn't have been so bad if there was a bit more thought put into it. They could start by doing a review on cleanses, they need to have smaller CD's and cleanse more then 1 Condi on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 MOAR! We want MOAR! CONDIS!/unleashes Joker laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongku.5326 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 HehI LOVE all the new stuff. Finally so many ways for group of 20 to blow up 50 which has been long, long overdue. And not just blow them up, do so in a matter of few seconds at that. Of course majority of you will be on the receiving end no matter how much you tell yourselves you're good and its the game (in this case condi) thus posts like these. Personally I wouldn't care if the applied damage is power or condi, as long as this functionality is preserved. It will be funny to see all the flipped nerf posts again.O and just a tip, its not the cleanses, stab etc etc or the lack of it that kills you. Its your personal, your groups and your commanders general lack of awareness and bad positioning. Plenty of streams on twitch, feel free to look them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Which particular Condi? I suggest nerf Immobilize. What's wrong with it? It has a 'z' where an 's' should be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 @Tongku.5326 said:HehI LOVE all the new stuff. Finally so many ways for group of 20 to blow up 50 which has been long, long overdue. And not just blow them up, do so in a matter of few seconds at that. Of course majority of you will be on the receiving end no matter how much you tell yourselves you're good and its the game (in this case condi) thus posts like these. Personally I wouldn't care if the applied damage is power or condi, as long as this functionality is preserved. It will be funny to see all the flipped nerf posts again.O and just a tip, its not the cleanses, stab etc etc or the lack of it that kills you. Its your personal, your groups and your commanders general lack of awareness and bad positioning. Plenty of streams on twitch, feel free to look them up.That's kind of a long winded way to say y'all suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 They added in some nice clear effects but due to boon strips rev has become comply a non use for its boons. Condis are not the main problem now its the counter to the counter of condis that is the problem also know as boon strip or boon conruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUFF.5692 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Three things need to happen to balance condi and allow counter play in WvW. Weakness applied to your enemy should allow 50% reduction in their condition damage just like it does for power damage. This allows you to tactically counter conditions with good counter play. Armor should reduce condition damage the same way it does power damage. Base condition damage values should be adjusted accordingly(most likely increased). Condition Duration/expertise stat should be removed. In return....Conditions should be able to crit. This forces condi builds to stack precision, condition damage and ferocity instead of just condition damage, condition duration and then having one free slot for toughness/healing power/vitality which gives them a distinct advantage in gearing/survive-ability for wvw. . The three changes above will bring parity to the power vs condition damage play styles in wvw. Condition damage builds will no longer have a huge advantage over power builds in terms of gearing and counter play opportunities will be restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallBarr.2184 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Looged into wvw first time since expansion and its such snorefest, to many condis and not enough cleansing, i specced fully condi cleanse but i cant keep up with the constast application of every condi in the game, i thought hot made wvw worse but hot is nothing compared to pof, ruined gamemode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Alim.4176 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 @TallBarr.2184 said:Looged into wvw first time since expansion and its such snorefest, to many condis and not enough cleansing, i specced fully condi cleanse but i cant keep up with the constast application of every condi in the game, i thought hot made wvw worse but hot is nothing compared to pof, ruined gamemode.PoF seems to have reverse the roles of Power and Condi builds.Power builds are just builds for support. While now condi builds are the burst in your face killers. Only difference is, that there is way way more and easily accessible power hate then condi hate. Thus welcome to the NEW AGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaab.4257 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Oh Well.. WvW is just not really fun for me anymore since PoF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saerni.2584 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Lol, it's always "condi is op" and never "this build is op."That is about as sensical as getting with a power damage bomb and saying "nerf power."I've said it before and I'll say it again.The only thing unfair about condition damage is having to listen to people who don't understand how conditions are balanced complain about them constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blodeuyn.2751 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 @saerni.2584 said:Lol, it's always "condi is op" and never "this build is op."That is about as sensical as getting with a power damage bomb and saying "nerf power."I've said it before and I'll say it again.The only thing unfair about condition damage is having to listen to people who don't understand how conditions are balanced complain about them constantly.Please do lay out for us in detail how conditions are balanced. Also, you don't have to read the forum posts regarding condi if you don't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy.8291 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 NERF CONDI.. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jana.6831 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 @saerni.2584 said:Lol, it's always "condi is op" and never "this build is op."People have actually explained quite a lot why it is "condi" and not "this build". Dire, Runes, in all cases too easy to apply, in a lot of cases too little condi removal accessible, no cap on condi stacks and most, not all, condis do too much damage. I don't think any of the condi builds that are being used in WvW is not OP (reasons listed in the sentence before). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith.7301 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 You can nerf condi when they nerf Spellbreakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Buff light fields please and thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackFish.1402 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Its to lure new players into WvW so they can be a God easier and think hey I can just spam condis and kill ppl..i like this wvw im going to stay...Those who cant fight use condis its that simple.. but for god sake fix the lag in EBG when its heavy populated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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