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We will miss you Fractal Ben.

Ill really miss your posts about fractal bugs and how you guys went about solving them.

If you read this, the content u've put out in the game is some of the content i enjoyed the most.

Gl on future endeavors.

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  • Illconceived Was Na.9781Illconceived Was Na.9781 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2019

    Ditto.

     #best-anet-ben, @Benjamin Arnold.3457

    Hype is the path to the dark side. Hype leads to unfulfilled expectations. Disappointment leads to anger. Anger leads to disgust. Disgust leads to "oh, new shinies! I'm back!"

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Sadface. We will miss you Ben!

    I rather choose death.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Yes, good luck and the best of Luck to you Ben.

  • Tyson.5160Tyson.5160 Member ✭✭✭✭

    A dark day indeed.🙁

  • @TexZero.7910 said:
    Can we have him back ?

    He volunteered to leave (according to his twitter).

    Hype is the path to the dark side. Hype leads to unfulfilled expectations. Disappointment leads to anger. Anger leads to disgust. Disgust leads to "oh, new shinies! I'm back!"

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2019

    So far I heared of 2 people from the already tiny raid/fractal team being laid off. And we only know like 20% of the 100 people who got laid off so far. Seems like fractals/raids will never happen again (at least not for a long time)

    EDIT: now I heared of a 3rd leaving

  • Lottie.5370Lottie.5370 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2019

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    This is from some news article, it seems like a lot of the staff were not actively working on GW/GW2 but their "other projects", so there is the possibility that there will still be the same amount of people working on GW2 as before. The truth is, we don't really know what is going to happen without giving it some time. Let's just send some love out to those going through a hard time at the moment and try and make it as easy for them as we can.

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2019

    @Lottie.5370 said:
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    This is from some news article, it seems like a lot of the staff were not actively working on GW/GW2 but their "other projects", so there is the possibility that there will still be the same amount of people working on GW2 as before.

    That was before we knew some of the names. No, it wasn't just "other projects" and non-dev office staff. Some core devs were laid off/quit on their own as well. Ben for example was from raid/fractals team, not some side projects.

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • TexZero.7910TexZero.7910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @TexZero.7910 said:
    Can we have him back ?

    He volunteered to leave (according to his twitter).

    Fine 3 Gem Store Artist. It's a fair bargain.

  • Tyson.5160Tyson.5160 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This doesn’t make me feel all that great for the future of raids. 🙁

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I guess W7 (if it is even close enough to release) is the last thing we will ever see about instanced group content in this game.

  • Kam.4092Kam.4092 Member ✭✭✭

    I hope he gets an equal replacement.

  • Henry.5713Henry.5713 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2019

    As most of us have heard by now, those who got layed off were supposedly working on a big side project. Which makes you wonder whether that side project wasn't the actual reason why content schedules have been rather slow all of last year and even before that. We might even get more people working on instant PvE content as they are bound to refocus their efforts after such a blow.
    Those voluntary leavers from outside of said project are going to be an issue but an issue proper management will be able to fix. Don't see a reason to panic.

    Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something. ~ Robert Heinlein

  • phs.6089phs.6089 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for all you done for us, Ben. We will really miss you. :s
    Good luck out there!

    "There is always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city."

  • Eramonster.2718Eramonster.2718 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Will be missed by many for sure :smile:.

  • Talindra.4958Talindra.4958 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2019

    Salute to you and good luck to your future endeavor Ben. My husband and I have enjoyed your raid and fractal contents :) wasn't a fan of the fractal mistlocks but many liked it so well-done and good job on trying very hard to make things happen for the players.
    regards from downunder

    another notable person is Josh Foreman. He is going to be a big lost to all of us.

    Death is Energy [DIE] in EU
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  • Incognito.3529Incognito.3529 Member ✭✭
    edited February 27, 2019

    We love you guys! Not only Ben, all people who made demanding content.

    PS And thanks for ice mechanics. :D

  • Hex.2579Hex.2579 Member ✭✭✭

    i miss Ben more especially now. feel like they gonna delete things they can't find ways to fix, while the imbalance and tons of problems are still there.

  • Thanks for the love everyone! Fractals and raids are still in good hands.

  • @Benjamin Arnold.3457 said:
    Thanks for the love everyone! Fractals and raids are still in good hands.

    Good hands? Maybe (ok, probably,... ok, sure we trust your word ... so yes, good hands, definitely).
    The problem for us is: fractals aren't still in your hands!

    (Everybody sing with me... "he's got the whole of Fractals, in his hands; he's got the whole ...")


    More seriously: it's bittersweet to see your name without the red background. Thanks for logging in to say "wassup."
    I hope you're having fun on a vacation or coding furiously for some top-secret project you can't even hint about.

    Hype is the path to the dark side. Hype leads to unfulfilled expectations. Disappointment leads to anger. Anger leads to disgust. Disgust leads to "oh, new shinies! I'm back!"

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Benjamin Arnold.3457 said:
    Thanks for the love everyone! Fractals and raids are still in good hands.

    Good hands? Maybe (ok, probably,... ok, sure we trust your word ... so yes, good hands, definitely).
    The problem for us is: fractals aren't still in your hands!

    (Everybody sing with me... "he's got the whole of Fractals, in his hands; he's got the whole ...")


    More seriously: it's bittersweet to see your name without the red background. Thanks for logging in to say "wassup."
    I hope you're having fun on a vacation or coding furiously for some top-secret project you can't even hint about.

    Iirc he has a contract with the minecraft guys.

  • Wade.2597Wade.2597 Member ✭✭

    @TexZero.7910 said:
    Can we have him back ?

    I'll glady give any one of the "Gem Store" artist for him.

    I will give any 3 "Gem Store" artists to get him back.

  • Zenith.7301Zenith.7301 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Wade.2597 said:

    @TexZero.7910 said:
    Can we have him back ?

    I'll glady give any one of the "Gem Store" artist for him.

    I will give any 3 "Gem Store" artists to get him back.

    Don't be a jerk to game artists, please. Artists in any industry already have rough job prospects and remuneration despite how much effort goes into their work.

    This is not a zero sum issue, don't treat it like one.

    My mount skins, my exalted gloves/backpack, some gorgeous outfits like Lyssa's or Braham's set or my crystalline dragon wings are as much part of my entertainment in this game as are my participation in raids and fractals.

  • CETheLucid.3964CETheLucid.3964 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zenith.7301 said:

    @Wade.2597 said:

    @TexZero.7910 said:
    Can we have him back ?

    I'll glady give any one of the "Gem Store" artist for him.

    I will give any 3 "Gem Store" artists to get him back.

    Don't be a jerk to game artists, please. Artists in any industry already have rough job prospects and remuneration despite how much effort goes into their work.

    This is not a zero sum issue, don't treat it like one.

    My mount skins, my exalted gloves/backpack, some gorgeous outfits like Lyssa's or Braham's set or my crystalline dragon wings are as much part of my entertainment in this game as are my participation in raids and fractals.

    Well said. Ben will be dearly missed, but you don't tear other people down to build someone else up.

  • sigur.9453sigur.9453 Member ✭✭✭

    @CETheLucid.3964 said:

    @Zenith.7301 said:

    @Wade.2597 said:

    @TexZero.7910 said:
    Can we have him back ?

    I'll glady give any one of the "Gem Store" artist for him.

    I will give any 3 "Gem Store" artists to get him back.

    Don't be a jerk to game artists, please. Artists in any industry already have rough job prospects and remuneration despite how much effort goes into their work.

    This is not a zero sum issue, don't treat it like one.

    My mount skins, my exalted gloves/backpack, some gorgeous outfits like Lyssa's or Braham's set or my crystalline dragon wings are as much part of my entertainment in this game as are my participation in raids and fractals.

    Well said. Ben will be dearly missed, but you don't tear other people down to build someone else up.

    i think s/he is not literally running around with some "gem store" artist on chains available for a trade. Sometimes you treat a joke (no matter if its a good one or a bad on) as it is...a joke.

  • CETheLucid.3964CETheLucid.3964 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sigur.9453 said:

    @CETheLucid.3964 said:

    @Zenith.7301 said:

    @Wade.2597 said:

    @TexZero.7910 said:
    Can we have him back ?

    I'll glady give any one of the "Gem Store" artist for him.

    I will give any 3 "Gem Store" artists to get him back.

    Don't be a jerk to game artists, please. Artists in any industry already have rough job prospects and remuneration despite how much effort goes into their work.

    This is not a zero sum issue, don't treat it like one.

    My mount skins, my exalted gloves/backpack, some gorgeous outfits like Lyssa's or Braham's set or my crystalline dragon wings are as much part of my entertainment in this game as are my participation in raids and fractals.

    Well said. Ben will be dearly missed, but you don't tear other people down to build someone else up.

    i think s/he is not literally running around with some "gem store" artist on chains available for a trade. Sometimes you treat a joke (no matter if its a good one or a bad on) as it is...a joke.

  • Zenith.7301Zenith.7301 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sigur.9453 said:

    @CETheLucid.3964 said:

    @Zenith.7301 said:

    @Wade.2597 said:

    @TexZero.7910 said:
    Can we have him back ?

    I'll glady give any one of the "Gem Store" artist for him.

    I will give any 3 "Gem Store" artists to get him back.

    Don't be a jerk to game artists, please. Artists in any industry already have rough job prospects and remuneration despite how much effort goes into their work.

    This is not a zero sum issue, don't treat it like one.

    My mount skins, my exalted gloves/backpack, some gorgeous outfits like Lyssa's or Braham's set or my crystalline dragon wings are as much part of my entertainment in this game as are my participation in raids and fractals.

    Well said. Ben will be dearly missed, but you don't tear other people down to build someone else up.

    i think s/he is not literally running around with some "gem store" artist on chains available for a trade. Sometimes you treat a joke (no matter if its a good one or a bad on) as it is...a joke.

    But the implication behind said joke is that you trade something unimportant for Ben who's actually immensely more valuable (enough to warrant replacing 3 people as the joke).

    The point I made is that gem skin artists are not as trivial as the joke implies.

  • thrag.9740thrag.9740 Member ✭✭✭

    @Zenith.7301 said:

    But the implication behind said joke is that you trade something unimportant for Ben who's actually immensely more valuable (enough to warrant replacing 3 people as the joke).

    The point I made is that gem skin artists are not as trivial as the joke implies.

    I disagree, to me the joke reads that gem store content is worthless, not the artists. No one is talking about the artists who make skins for new living story episodes. Even the artists who made legendary armor, which has well known and documented problems that affect the people specifically in this forum, are left out of the conversation. The gem store descriptor is added specifically to emphasize this joke is about Anet's prioritization of gemstore content over the alleged 6 raids per year.

  • Zenith.7301Zenith.7301 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @thrag.9740 said:

    @Zenith.7301 said:

    But the implication behind said joke is that you trade something unimportant for Ben who's actually immensely more valuable (enough to warrant replacing 3 people as the joke).

    The point I made is that gem skin artists are not as trivial as the joke implies.

    I disagree, to me the joke reads that gem store content is worthless, not the artists. No one is talking about the artists who make skins for new living story episodes. Even the artists who made legendary armor, which has well known and documented problems that affect the people specifically in this forum, are left out of the conversation. The gem store descriptor is added specifically to emphasize this joke is about Anet's prioritization of gemstore content over the alleged 6 raids per year.

    With obvious reasons, given that raids don't offer a steady stream of income to the developer despite taking massively more resources and the coordination of teams to put out.

    But since people are so pigheaded about not paying $15/month as if it were some terrible debt despite the fact they happily pay the same for Netflix or HBO and spend just that on a single use movie ticket or restaurant plate they kitten out in a few hours later, this is the content delivery prioritization model you get from a game with no subscription.

    There is not a single F2P/B2P that will have the content cadence and in-game reward provision relative to sub games, it's that simple.

    Perhaps if GW2 did something ala GW1 where they would sell the raid/living story expansions for x amount of gems and then all cosmetics would be included with that product instead of separate, you might have much better product cadence.

  • Zaraki.5784Zaraki.5784 Member ✭✭✭✭

    But we won't miss Birds and Slippery Slope.

    "Sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never be able to injure you!"
    The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy

  • thrag.9740thrag.9740 Member ✭✭✭

    @Zenith.7301 said:

    @thrag.9740 said:

    @Zenith.7301 said:

    But the implication behind said joke is that you trade something unimportant for Ben who's actually immensely more valuable (enough to warrant replacing 3 people as the joke).

    The point I made is that gem skin artists are not as trivial as the joke implies.

    I disagree, to me the joke reads that gem store content is worthless, not the artists. No one is talking about the artists who make skins for new living story episodes. Even the artists who made legendary armor, which has well known and documented problems that affect the people specifically in this forum, are left out of the conversation. The gem store descriptor is added specifically to emphasize this joke is about Anet's prioritization of gemstore content over the alleged 6 raids per year.

    With obvious reasons, given that raids don't offer a steady stream of income to the developer despite taking massively more resources and the coordination of teams to put out.

    But since people are so pigheaded about not paying $15/month as if it were some terrible debt despite the fact they happily pay the same for Netflix or HBO and spend just that on a single use movie ticket or restaurant plate they kitten out in a few hours later, this is the content delivery prioritization model you get from a game with no subscription.

    There is not a single F2P/B2P that will have the content cadence and in-game reward provision relative to sub games, it's that simple.

    Perhaps if GW2 did something ala GW1 where they would sell the raid/living story expansions for x amount of gems and then all cosmetics would be included with that product instead of separate, you might have much better product cadence.

    Sure but none of that changes the fact that the joke wasn't really targeted at the artists, but rather the system they are forced to operate within. Your just changing the topic to avoid addressing that issue.

  • TexZero.7910TexZero.7910 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2019

    @thrag.9740 said:
    Sure but none of that changes the fact that the joke wasn't really targeted at the artists, but rather the system they are forced to operate within. Your just changing the topic to avoid addressing that issue.

    As the person responsible for this i feel it's important to clarify that yes the joke was based on prioritization of the game and not the job being done.
    Both jobs are equally important.

    It's also to point out how invaluable Ben was as a dev during his run. He communicated in a fashion that was almost unparalled which is why him stepping aside was a souring experience.