flyingplanet.6912 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 So I have seen many negative comments about one shot thief builds (backstab or death judgement)Now what would you say? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosmaster.8263 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 That's an awful lot for an Axe, lol. Were you wearing Zerker gear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warkind.6745 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I've seen a few soulbeasts run this; it's a completely gimmick build. Interrupting Whirling Defenses with sleight of hand is usually enough to send them leaping away withtheir signet of stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katastroff.1045 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 you roam naked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zionophir.6845 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 must be a third party plugin like arcdpsin wikiWinter's biteThrow an axe to chill your foe. Your pet's next attack inflicts weakness.Damage.png Damage: 550Whirling DefenseDamage.png Damage (12x): 2,904 (7.92)?242 each.Say twice the Whirling Def damage + the rest = ~10kyou got 1 shotted at 19kas long as the multipliers are right (his boons might ferocity), it can be. otherwise, some bork bork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingplanet.6912 Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 @"Loosmaster.8263" said:That's an awful lot for an Axe, lol. Were you wearing Zerker gear?Zerker gear with rune of earth.The below is the screenshot of the ranger a few moments later, but I am not entirely sure about the build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexZero.7910 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 @zionophir.6845 said:must be a third party plugin like arcdpsLet me just stop you right there.It ain't a 3rd party problem it's a l2p issue as the OP is running pure glass against pure glass. His house got shattered and so he took the only route he can, come complain on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zionophir.6845 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 @TexZero.7910 said:@zionophir.6845 said:must be a third party plugin like arcdpsLet me just stop you right there.It ain't a 3rd party problem it's a l2p issue as the OP is running pure glass against pure glass. His house got shattered and so he took the only route he can, come complain on the forums.yeah. 10k vs 19k? did that 9k appear out of thin air?i can even tell you that i hit a medium armor glass engi with protection for 600 dmg. and im on full zerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephire.8049 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 @flyingplanet.6912 said:@"Loosmaster.8263" said:That's an awful lot for an Axe, lol. Were you wearing Zerker gear?Zerker gear with rune of earth.The below is the screenshot of the ranger a few moments later, but I am not entirely sure about the build.Don't know what their exact build is but among their buffs they have:Opening Strike: You and your pet inflict vulnerability with your first strike when entering combat.Signet of the Wild: +180 FerocityStrength of the Pack: Rampage with your pet, gaining stability, fury, and swiftness. You and your pet also grant might to each other when you attack. AKA more might and ferocity, plus stability.Twice as Vicious: Disabling a foe increases your damage and condition damage for a short duration. (+5% damage)Ferocious Archetype: +200 power; +100 Ferocity.Their stacked weapon buff is probably might, ferocity, or precision. Their food and utility would be offensive. They also have the keep buff which could be another 100 power and precision.As other said, you fought a glass build with your own glass build and lost. Though know that soulbeasts tend to put all their eggs in one basket—after they blow skills like Strength of the Pack, their burst is reduced. They still hurt but not nearly as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katastroff.1045 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 @zionophir.6845 said:@TexZero.7910 said:@zionophir.6845 said:must be a third party plugin like arcdpsLet me just stop you right there.It ain't a 3rd party problem it's a l2p issue as the OP is running pure glass against pure glass. His house got shattered and so he took the only route he can, come complain on the forums.yeah. 10k vs 19k? did that 9k appear out of thin air?i can even tell you that i hit a medium armor glass engi with protection for 600 dmg. and im on full zerk.Looks more like the OP didnt see the ranger coming. I run a similar build, full viper axe/axe and axe/torch, its and old raid build ment to do a lot of dmg, but with very little defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexZero.7910 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 @zionophir.6845 said:@TexZero.7910 said:@zionophir.6845 said:must be a third party plugin like arcdpsLet me just stop you right there.It ain't a 3rd party problem it's a l2p issue as the OP is running pure glass against pure glass. His house got shattered and so he took the only route he can, come complain on the forums.yeah. 10k vs 19k? did that 9k appear out of thin air?i can even tell you that i hit a medium armor glass engi with protection for 600 dmg. and im on full zerk.No. But you'd know that if you weren't just blindly being biased and throwing around the exploiter tag.It came from gear difference, WvW specific infusions, food, utility, bloodlust stacks as shown in the image, and other WvW buffs.But sure everyone who kills you is clearly a dirty cheater. Even if there's reason to believe otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zionophir.6845 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 @TexZero.7910 said:@zionophir.6845 said:@TexZero.7910 said:@zionophir.6845 said:must be a third party plugin like arcdpsLet me just stop you right there.It ain't a 3rd party problem it's a l2p issue as the OP is running pure glass against pure glass. His house got shattered and so he took the only route he can, come complain on the forums.yeah. 10k vs 19k? did that 9k appear out of thin air?i can even tell you that i hit a medium armor glass engi with protection for 600 dmg. and im on full zerk.No. But you'd know that if you weren't just blindly being biased and throwing around the exploiter tag.It came from gear difference, WvW specific infusions, food, utility, bloodlust stacks as shown in the image, and other WvW buffs.But sure everyone who kills you is clearly a dirty cheater. Even if there's reason to believe otherwise.if he kills me fairly, then congrats to him. but 1 skill doing bork bork damage and kills me? well the one who killed me is still bork bork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I would say ... stop running PVE DPS builds in WvW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I basically run a PVE build in WvW myself. There's a lot more WvW builds, and I don't want to spend a lot of money buying multiple full ascended gearsets for all of my toons for a game mode that I play relatively rarely. So, I just replace my berserker jewelry with marauder ones, and then change my traits around. It's a pretty simple philosophy: gear for damage, trait/utilities for defense, and you'll end up with a well balanced toon.There's a caveat, though: you have to be on your toes. Even though I can drop most players in 2 or 3 skills, the flip side is I myself am also that fragile all the time. Be aware of your positioning, and look behind you regularly to see if anyone is stalking you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltekka.2375 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 This is common with soulbeasts in wvw. Their multiple damage modifiers that stack make em do insane bursts. Nothing new, I have been hit on multiple occasions with this dmg while on tank gear. I remember some longbow auto attacks that hit for 10k and rapid fire hitting for 3.5k each hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 @Zephire.8049 said:@flyingplanet.6912 said:@"Loosmaster.8263" said:That's an awful lot for an Axe, lol. Were you wearing Zerker gear?Zerker gear with rune of earth.The below is the screenshot of the ranger a few moments later, but I am not entirely sure about the build.Don't know what their exact build is but among their buffs they have:Opening Strike: You and your pet inflict vulnerability with your first strike when entering combat.Signet of the Wild: +180 FerocityStrength of the Pack: Rampage with your pet, gaining stability, fury, and swiftness. You and your pet also grant might to each other when you attack. AKA more might and ferocity, plus stability.Twice as Vicious: Disabling a foe increases your damage and condition damage for a short duration. (+5% damage)Ferocious Archetype: +200 power; +100 Ferocity.Their stacked weapon buff is probably might, ferocity, or precision. Their food and utility would be offensive. They also have the keep buff which could be another 100 power and precision.As other said, you fought a glass build with your own glass build and lost. Though know that soulbeasts tend to put all their eggs in one basket—after they blow skills like Strength of the Pack, their burst is reduced. They still hurt but not nearly as much.He also probably had Sic'em for 40% more damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish.2769 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Honestly, just look on Youtube for a WvW GW2 Ranger build, there's about 3 videos from a guy that plays a 1-shot Ranger build. Glass or not isn't the issue, "l2p" isn't the issue either. Soulbeast can hit stupidly hard due to some imbalances like Sic 'Em affecting the Ranger while melded with their pet which gives the Ranger an extra 40% damage buff, he most likely had the extra damage buff from using 'Maul' before-hand too which gives bonus damage to the Ranger's next attack. (I forget how much it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caedmon.6798 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 @TexZero.7910 said:@"zionophir.6845" said:must be a third party plugin like arcdpsLet me just stop you right there.It ain't a 3rd party problem it's a l2p issue as the OP is running pure glass against pure glass. His house got shattered and so he took the only route he can, come complain on the forums.Youre clueless.This oneshot build has been around for Months. Totally a l2p issue,lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 You can even instagib from 1500 range with lb auto as you can see on one of the videos from the same dude Caedmon linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 @Caedmon.6798 said:@TexZero.7910 said:@"zionophir.6845" said:must be a third party plugin like arcdpsLet me just stop you right there.It ain't a 3rd party problem it's a l2p issue as the OP is running pure glass against pure glass. His house got shattered and so he took the only route he can, come complain on the forums.Youre clueless.This oneshot build has been around for Months. Totally a l2p issue,lmao.that looks balanced... if players can get carried... its balanced for gw2 standards.Working as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexZero.7910 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 @Caedmon.6798 said:@TexZero.7910 said:@"zionophir.6845" said:must be a third party plugin like arcdpsLet me just stop you right there.It ain't a 3rd party problem it's a l2p issue as the OP is running pure glass against pure glass. His house got shattered and so he took the only route he can, come complain on the forums.Youre clueless.This oneshot build has been around for Months. Totally a l2p issue,lmao.Dear lord, atleast follow the chain there. I never said 1 shot build didn't exist.I said they're not exploiters just because you died to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovu.7560 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I mean all of the above are cherry picked fights, those gimmick/one-trick-pony builds are fun when they work but easily blown up. Boonbeast is more potent overall, even if the individual numbers are smaller because they can often tank for quite a long time in a 1v1 scenario.That said, one-shotting the odd opponent with winter's bite on full power is both fun and satisfying.~ Lpvi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovu.7560 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Apparently I can't edit "Lpvi" from my phone. I am Lpvi today.Its also worth noting rangers I talk to tend to get more about OH axe than mainhand axe these days. I haven't tried it myself yet, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSeed.3528 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 @"Kovu.7560" said:Apparently I can't edit "Lpvi" from my phone. I am Lpvi today.Its also worth noting rangers I talk to tend to get more about OH axe than mainhand axe these days. I haven't tried it myself yet, though.When I can't get much off with my mh axe I just bait them in for my oh axe. I can actually just camp in axe and use pet for movement until it gets really ugly but you can get some pretty nice dmg once you bait them into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaijinGuy.8476 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 One shot builds exist and like others have said they usually are very very squishy. If you can avoid their first burst you can probably get them easy. I have been hit by a few mirage and deadeye one shot builds because I wasn't paying attention. The second time I encountered them though it was a different story :)Don't let your guard down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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