BadMed.3846 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Way too much Condi application and low cooldownExcellent ability to disengage with stealthPlease do a proper nerf this time. Still very broken spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megametzler.5729 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Get rid of those cover condis. Two damaging condis, two more for cover. Same goes for scourge.At the same time don't let clears work on 5+ condis... tune them all down accordingly.I expect them to randomly hand out more cover condis to other classes though lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicTurtle.8571 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 A stunning and original post once again, perfect 5/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 @"BadMed.3846" said:Way too much Condi application and low cooldownExcellent ability to disengage with stealthPlease do a proper nerf this time. Still very broken spec.+1You've defined Bad Designtake a lookby GazzydoesGW2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Tempest.7584 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Round and round we go, where we stop nobody knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 @Twilight Tempest.7584 said:Round and round we go, where we stop nobody knows.'Unlearned lessons are bound to be repeated' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 @Megametzler.5729 said:Get rid of those cover condis. Two damaging condis, two more for cover. Same goes for scourge.At the same time don't let clears work on 5+ condis... tune them all down accordingly.I expect them to randomly hand out more cover condis to other classes though lol.From which skills/traits specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megametzler.5729 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 @Quadox.7834 said:@"Megametzler.5729" said:Get rid of those cover condis. Two damaging condis, two more for cover. Same goes for scourge.At the same time don't let clears work on 5+ condis... tune them all down accordingly.I expect them to randomly hand out more cover condis to other classes though lol.From which skills/traits specifically?Just some examples:https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Fire - used to clear 3 but got powercrept.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Smite_Condition - used to clear 1 but got powercrept.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Wave - used to clear 1 but... well.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Purge_Gyro - okay, cleansing is getting ridic-...https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Anticorrosion_Plating + https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hard_Light_Arena - ...please stahp...https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Woven_Stride + https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Water - ???A lot of powercreep not only happened to (some) condi classes, but also to cleanses. This is ridiculous and pushed many off-meta condi builds completely out of any even remote viability. Condi mirage and scourge are the main offenders on the applicator's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 @Megametzler.5729 said:@Quadox.7834 said:@Megametzler.5729 said:Get rid of those cover condis. Two damaging condis, two more for cover. Same goes for scourge.At the same time don't let clears work on 5+ condis... tune them all down accordingly.I expect them to randomly hand out more cover condis to other classes though lol.From which skills/traits specifically?Just some examples:https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Fire - used to clear 3 but got powercrept.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Smite_Condition - used to clear 1 but got powercrept.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Wave - used to clear 1 but... well.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Purge_Gyro - okay, cleansing is getting ridic-...https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Anticorrosion_Plating + https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hard_Light_Arena - ...please stahp...https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Woven_Stride + https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Water - ???A lot of powercreep not only happened to (some) condi classes, but also to cleanses. This is ridiculous and pushed many off-meta condi builds completely out of any even remote viability. Condi mirage and scourge are the main offenders on the applicator's side.Ah sorry I meant which skills that you would remove cover condis from on mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megametzler.5729 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 @Quadox.7834 said:@Megametzler.5729 said:@Quadox.7834 said:@Megametzler.5729 said:Get rid of those cover condis. Two damaging condis, two more for cover. Same goes for scourge.At the same time don't let clears work on 5+ condis... tune them all down accordingly.I expect them to randomly hand out more cover condis to other classes though lol.From which skills/traits specifically?Just some examples:https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Fire - used to clear 3 but got powercrept.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Smite_Condition - used to clear 1 but got powercrept.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Wave - used to clear 1 but... well.https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Purge_Gyro - okay, cleansing is getting ridic-...https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Anticorrosion_Plating + https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hard_Light_Arena - ...please stahp...https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Woven_Stride + https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Water - ???A lot of powercreep not only happened to (some) condi classes, but also to cleanses. This is ridiculous and pushed many off-meta condi builds completely out of any even remote viability. Condi mirage and scourge are the main offenders on the applicator's side.Ah sorry I meant which skills that you would remove cover condis from on mesmer.Ah, okay.^^Also just an example: Take axe. Axe alone can apply 4 different conditions - bleeding, confusion, tormend and cripple. Torment on mesmer creates an extremely powerful advantage due to confusion and bleeding being available from core skills/traits. Cripple is fine as a skill with a specific intention. I would probably delete torment and replace it with more bleeding or confusion. (Sidenote: This might need a change to Maim the Disillusioned too... would bleeding instead of torment work there?)Same goes (a little less) with torch. I would like to see more burning stacks, making that the condition of torch, and get rid of confusion. Not sure about the daze and ineptitude, that would again be 3 conditions by just 1 skill... but that might be a potential second step.I am very open for more in-depth suggestions of course. I would just like to bring the condi number down to ele levels - which has bleeding and burning and some cover through vulnerability, cripple, chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curennos.9307 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Undo some nerfs.Prevent them from using their dodge while CC'ed or immobed. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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