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Acronyms used related to fractals

Anatolian Turk.4057Anatolian Turk.4057 Member ✭✭

I have recently reached t4 of fractals and everytime i look at lfg room it says "chrono, dps, bs, 150k healer"....what does that mean?

Edit: i was abused and asked to leave for asking someone for what bs stands for....im so sad :(

Edit 2:Thank you guys! Also, im a fb and have minstrel stats. Are those stats good for fractals t4 and cms.?

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  • steki.1478steki.1478 Member ✭✭✭✭

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Abbreviations

    What do those have to do with someone being mean?

  • phs.6089phs.6089 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019

    What is mean about that? People looking for certain classes, probably the can do it better with that seup, most of the time it means they struggle with no boons and overheals or they juts copy-past what they saw.
    Dahell is 150K healer I dn't know. Maybe 150AR?

    Crono is -Cronomaster
    DPS-Damage per Second, abbriviation used to describe Damage Dealers
    BS-Banner Slave, build of warrior

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  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019

    @Anatolian Turk.4057 said:
    I have recently reached t4 of fractals and everytime i look at lfg room it says "chrono, dps, bs, 150k healer"....what does that mean?

    I dont see anything particularly mean about that.

    It states which comp of classes/builds the party is looking for.

    Chronomance (mesmer's elite spec which buffs the group)
    Dps (some dps)
    Bs (a warrior build that also buffs the party and brings banners)
    Druid (another buffer/healer)

    150k (i assume this was 150kp? If so it refer to kill proof that one of the two fractal cms drop, a method to check ppl if they know the fractal if you will)

    https://discretize.eu This page has prob all the builds and tactics that ppl use in fractals (unless outdated).

    Ppl cant really identify if someone isnt familiar with the content so they might end up being mean or ask you to leave, sorry if someone was toxic towards you, not everyone is like that.

  • kasoki.5180kasoki.5180 Member ✭✭✭

    People were mean because he asked what is BS, not because they had requirements for group composition. Saying that there is nothing mean about asking for group composition literally has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

    @Anatolian Turk.4057 said:
    I have recently reached t4 of fractals and everytime i look at lfg room it says "chrono, dps, bs, 150k healer"....what does that mean?

    Edit: i was abused and asked to leave for asking someone for what bs stands for....im so sad :(

    If someone was abusive to you, right click their name and report them.

  • Haleydawn.3764Haleydawn.3764 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019

    Kinda got a point.
    If you don't understand what an LFG means, or is looking for, it's on you if you join it, and you'll be called out for it, and possibly kicked for your mistake on joining something you have no idea what you joined to.
    It's like asking in an LFG looking for Charr Mesmers with white fur, dressed in pink.

    But a Dark Green Sylvari joins instead.

    But you really want to be a part of the party of big, hulking furry Charr, wearing pink dresses, casting butterflies and glamours, in their full glam makeup, pink armor, and white speckled fur, but you have this, dark green salad, running around after you, wondering what's going on.
    It's not fun for the 4 Pink clad Charr Mesmers, chained to this, dark green salad, that doesn't know right from wrong. Day from night. Up from down. He just wants to have fun, to kill enemies and bask in glory of finishing a Tier 4 fractal without any hiccoughs, but doesn't know how, or when or why.
    Don't be that salad.
    This all boils down to:

    Always read your LFGs, and always know what is requested before joining. If you don't understand an LFG, don't join it.

    The above was written as part of an attempt to waste time.

  • fill.3106fill.3106 Member ✭✭

    @Haleydawn.3764 said:

    Kinda got a point.
    If you don't understand what an LFG means, or is looking for, it's on you if you join it, and you'll be called out for it, and possibly kicked for your mistake on joining something you have no idea what you joined to.
    It's like asking in an LFG looking for Charr Mesmers with white fur, dressed in pink.

    But a Dark Green Sylvari joins instead.

    But you really want to be a part of the party of big, hulking furry Charr, wearing pink dresses, casting butterflies and glamours, in their full glam makeup, pink armor, and white speckled fur, but you have this, dark green salad, running around after you, wondering what's going on.
    It's not fun for the 4 Pink clad Charr Mesmers, chained to this, dark green salad, that doesn't know right from wrong. Day from night. Up from down. He just wants to have fun, to kill enemies and bask in glory of finishing a Tier 4 fractal without any hiccoughs, but doesn't know how, or when or why.
    Don't be that salad.
    Always read your LFGs, and always know what is requested before joining.

    I'm trying to figure out why spike is being hostile to the OP, i could care less about why the OP got kicked from a lfg group. Did i miss something?

  • fill.3106fill.3106 Member ✭✭

    @Haleydawn.3764 said:

    @fill.3106 said:

    @Haleydawn.3764 said:

    Kinda got a point.
    If you don't understand what an LFG means, or is looking for, it's on you if you join it, and you'll be called out for it, and possibly kicked for your mistake on joining something you have no idea what you joined to.
    It's like asking in an LFG looking for Charr Mesmers with white fur, dressed in pink.

    But a Dark Green Sylvari joins instead.

    But you really want to be a part of the party of big, hulking furry Charr, wearing pink dresses, casting butterflies and glamours, in their full glam makeup, pink armor, and white speckled fur, but you have this, dark green salad, running around after you, wondering what's going on.
    It's not fun for the 4 Pink clad Charr Mesmers, chained to this, dark green salad, that doesn't know right from wrong. Day from night. Up from down. He just wants to have fun, to kill enemies and bask in glory of finishing a Tier 4 fractal without any hiccoughs, but doesn't know how, or when or why.
    Don't be that salad.
    Always read your LFGs, and always know what is requested before joining.

    I'm trying to figure out why spike is being hostile to the OP, i could care less about why the OP got kicked from a lfg group. Did i miss something?

    Because it's a non-post really. Many people can google 'bs guild wars 2' and find themselves at the gw2 wiki as this is the top result;

    There's no genuine help needed beyond Google here.

    There are tons of topics here that are "non issues" but its a forum, where people talk about ideas, opinions and rants. My deal is with spike being hostile to the OP with colorful language. And if you don't see that, you're just defending him then.

  • People act mean because they can get away with it without any real consequences.

  • fill.3106fill.3106 Member ✭✭

    Well I'm done with this discussion since i was waiting on a response from Spike but........yeah. Good luck using the LFG in the future OP. Take the advice from IllConceived, also.

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 19, 2019

    People who are experienced in a game or game mode tend to use acronyms that outsiders will not understand. Luckily there are resources available for those wishing to join in. If you wish to participate in a community that has its own language it is a good idea to do some homework.

    Still not an excuse for said community to be offensive or abusive toward newcomers (if that is what happened).

  • I'm moving this discussion to the Fractals, Dungeons, and Raids subforum since the topic is related to one of the game modes. Note that the title was changed so please stop commenting off-topic or we'll be moderating those comments. Thanks!


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  • kasoki.5180kasoki.5180 Member ✭✭✭

    @MoriMoriMori.5349 said:

    @kasoki.5180 said:
    People were mean because he asked what is BS, not because they had requirements for group composition. Saying that there is nothing mean about asking for group composition literally has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

    @Anatolian Turk.4057 said:
    I have recently reached t4 of fractals and everytime i look at lfg room it says "chrono, dps, bs, 150k healer"....what does that mean?

    Edit: i was abused and asked to leave for asking someone for what bs stands for....im so sad :(

    If someone was abusive to you, right click their name and report them.

    With all due respect, all we know is OP claimed (implicitly) they were asked to leave for nothing. It's just their words / perspective on the situation. For example, somebody saying "dude, if you don't even know what is bs, we can't take you into our group, you just aren't experienced enough, sorry, please leave now, and google all this stuff yourself" is completely justified behavior, even if OP didn't like it. Some people can be really entitled these days, so I wouldn't just blindly trust any such complaint, and OP hasn't backed up their words with anything, so far.

    With all due respect this is one of more toxic comments i have seen on these forums. I suggested to report verbal abuse and your comment is basically: "maybe they are just entitled". Like kitten??

    Maybe they are, maybe they arent. Thats on Anet to decide once the person submits a report. Its definitely not on you to diminish on forums.

    Im not saying that OP is in the right here but this jump to assumptions how anyone with problems is automatically an entitled brat is next level bs

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭

    I try kick asap people from my cms party if if that join whit wrong class and not spam-link kp .. Don't see any toxic in that.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭

    @Anatolian Turk.4057 said:
    Edit 2:Thank you guys! Also, im a fb and have minstrel stats. Are those stats good for fractals t4 and cms.?

    it is ok. Exp party othen do cms6t4 wihtout any heal. So in that party we will wait that fb will have deviner set.

  • Asum.4960Asum.4960 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2019

    @kasoki.5180 said:
    Im not saying that OP is in the right here but this jump to assumptions how anyone with problems is automatically an entitled brat is next level bs

    And when you read that as "Next level Banner Slave", is when you know you have written way to many LFG's.

    But yea, I recommend looking up on what things like KP and profession acronyms stand for before blindly joining groups (Cyninja essentially gave you all the basics you need to know right here).
    I don't appreciate when people just kick beginners without explanation, but on the other hand, it's also rude to just join into a group looking for something specific without knowing what it means, and you can't always expect them to be happy about explaining things that are rather easily looked up, while they actually want to set up LFG again, look for what they need and go to start the content.

    If they were really toxic about your lack of knowledge, sure, just forget about them and move on. Don't let that sour the content for you.
    On the other hand, keep in mind you could have been the 3rd or so person having no clue joining them that day, leading to them getting frustrated due to wasting time.

    In short:
    People put things in the LFG for a reason, and it's reasonable for them to expect that whoever joins adheres to those requirements.
    If someone new and clueless joins your group, don't be a kitten about it. New people joining the gamemode you enjoy playing is vital in the long term for the health of that gamemode. Worst case, you scare them away with your toxicity and lost a potential qualified player in the future and sit in LFG all day.

    "As you know, those who you once called friends have become enemies." ~Glint

  • Critical Lag.9075Critical Lag.9075 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 20, 2019

    @Anatolian Turk.4057 said:
    Edit 2:Thank you guys! Also, im a fb and have minstrel stats. Are those stats good for fractals t4 and cms.?

    Don't join CMs in LFG if you just reached T4. It will be incredibly miserable experience. If you want to try those now, go with friends or guild who will be more patient than random people who just want to get their daily done.

    Check out this site https://discretize.eu/ It has many guides, builds, tricks&tips for every class/fractal.

  • Yasi.9065Yasi.9065 Member ✭✭✭

    @Anatolian Turk.4057 said:
    I have recently reached t4 of fractals and everytime i look at lfg room it says "chrono, dps, bs, 150k healer"....what does that mean?

    Edit: i was abused and asked to leave for asking someone for what bs stands for....im so sad :(

    Edit 2:Thank you guys! Also, im a fb and have minstrel stats. Are those stats good for fractals t4 and cms.?

    Emotions run high in some fractal groups, dont let it bother you :) If its too abusive, report them so they get a timeout and reality check. Anet has been really cracking down on that, which is good.

    Cyn already told you the abbreviations necessary, and yes minstrel firebrand is okay. Harrier would be better, but the difference is rather marginal.

    More important than harrier or minstrel is:
    a) when you join a lfg just looking for "fb", then ask immediately after joining if heal-fb is okay, some want a power fb and are then disappointed.
    b) you should bring GS and Axe for trashmob pulls. GS5 and axe3 are your mainpulls then, F1 tome skill3 is a smaller backup pull.
    c) use your tomes, so important. Take the time, maybe even make a sticky note with which skill gives what boons in your tomes. Your tome skills are the best skills you have, and I always cry when I see firebrands not using them - at all.
    d) usually either you or a weaver/tempest are initializing the "prestack" shenanigans at the mistlock singularity. Whenever possible, use all your boonbuffing skills (including tomes) at the mistlock singularity to stack up boons, and then reset cooldowns by interacting with the singularity. Some firebrands even buff twice, though imo thats nonesense, you want your tome cooldowns reset for the support they can offer. However, if your team does enough dmg it might be better to buff up twice and focus on doing dmg/healing in the first minute.

    I swore to myself I wouldnt do this anymore, but since Ive been doing some pug raids/fractals over the last few days again I noticed theres a ton of healfirebrands that dont know where their healing comes from. So, maybe, Ill write another guide on firebrand heals in this forum. Or is there already one on SC or dt websites?

  • amnessa.6154amnessa.6154 Member
    edited April 20, 2019

    lmao I asked for chrono , alaren or healing fb and ended up having healing scourge. T4 pugs are real fun in the game xD 4.th mistlock but nobody tells you xD
    edit: ofc we didnt kick since T4s are piece of cake

  • @MoriMoriMori.5349 said:

    @kasoki.5180 said:
    People were mean because he asked what is BS, not because they had requirements for group composition. Saying that there is nothing mean about asking for group composition literally has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

    @Anatolian Turk.4057 said:
    I have recently reached t4 of fractals and everytime i look at lfg room it says "chrono, dps, bs, 150k healer"....what does that mean?

    Edit: i was abused and asked to leave for asking someone for what bs stands for....im so sad :(

    If someone was abusive to you, right click their name and report them.

    With all due respect, all we know is OP claimed (implicitly) they were asked to leave for nothing. It's just their words / perspective on the situation. For example, somebody saying "dude, if you don't even know what is bs, we can't take you into our group, you just aren't experienced enough, sorry, please leave now, and google all this stuff yourself" is completely justified behavior, even if OP didn't like it. Some people can be really entitled these days, so I wouldn't just blindly trust any such complaint, and OP hasn't backed up their words with anything, so far.

    Because naming and shaming is against the rules, maybe? Actually reading the initial post indicates that they have at least some experience with fractals, if they're running T4. Either that, or there's a whole lot of BS on these forums about how much skill is needed to run fractals, else they wouldn't be running T4, right? Also, they weren't asked to leave "for nothing", they were asked to leave because they asked what bs means.

  • Yasi.9065Yasi.9065 Member ✭✭✭

    You can get to t4 fractals with ascended gear from pvp, wvw, crafted, achievements in less than a day. Thats in no way enough time to gather enough experience for exp'ed daily clears with cm. Hence why this thread even exists.
    Getting to t4, and being ready for fluedly clearing the dailies on t4 is two different kinds of things. Getting to t4 doesnt automatically equip you with an efficiently optimized build for your desired role, it doesnt teach you how to play said build in fractals.

    Sure, you can clear normal t4 dailies without doing that. Quite honestly, the minimum standard for normal t4 fractals is quite low. But there IS a minimum standard and the game doesnt teach anything about that. And even what the game offers as teaching is often so obscured it gets overlooked a lot - for example, how many of you did know that breaking cc bar increases dmg for duration of the purple debuff? And that you can look for that effect by mouse-hovering over the red shield at the front of the cc bar?

    So, no... just because someone reached t4 fractals doesnt automatically mean even the most basic understanding of how instanced group content works is there. To get that experience, you have to endure either quite some more rather unpleasant t4 fractal runs with people willing to teach you - or go on the internet and read up on builds, how to play them, as well as specific fractal guides telling you what to focus on.

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