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Quit right before Heart of Thorns since back then the warrior+GS had been nerfed to the ground, complained about it on the forums and nothing ever happened.

Tbh if greatsword or rifle are any good now i'd consider coming back, but ill be damned if im gona use a torch or a horn ever again.

Any A or even B tier rifle builds going around atm or is it still just a novelty weapon after 3 years.

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GS is ok right now. The Berserker GS Burst just got reworked.

Rifle in PvE is in a sad position.You could play a gimmick Berserker Rifle build ......

Longbow is even on Powerbuilds better for range dmg.

Also the Rifle Trait [Crack Shot] cant compete with Warrior Sprint because of the Dmg Multiplier.

Crack Shot should increase Dmg by 10% if you are 600+ range away.

Also all rifle skills need a dmg buff in pve.

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For WvW...Gear: Full Zerk/Scholar runes... GS - Bloodlust/Energy, Rifle - Force/Air (Night at night time)Traits: Arms 221, Discipline 223, Zerker 111...Skills: Blood Reckoning, Signet of Might, Signet of Fury, Berserker's Stance (or SiO/outrage for stun break) and Signet of Rage

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I main a Rifle Warrior. As all the people above me have stated, PvE Rifle Warrior, where the Rifle is the main weapon at least, is not meta, due to unimpressive damage. Regardless, I continue to play Rifle + Sword/Shield Warrior because I have made a build that is fun and works for me, and seems to have quite good synergy. While I can't take on the highest difficulty enemies I can make it through most content in GW2 with some effort.

All my traits are based around increasing the DPS of the rifle and burst skill, and reintroducing bleeding back onto the rifle. As far as runes and sigils go, my armour (Berserker's stats) has Superior Runes of The Eagle, and my weapons (also Berserker's stats) have Sigils of Earth and Agony. I'm essentially a glass cannon (obviously not very meta), but I use Rifle skill 4, Shield 5, extra endurance regen traits, and Charr cultural skill "hidden pistol", to evade as often as possible.

I jokingly call it "Reverse Nike Warrior", or "CoD Warrior". Since you have to run-evade-and-gun in order to survive.

IMO it's a good build to try if you find yourself complaining that GW2 is too easy.

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@Invoker.5462 said:Quit right before Heart of Thorns since back then the warrior+GS had been nerfed to the ground, complained about it on the forums and nothing ever happened.

You missed out on the ridiculousness of Gunflame (Rifle's Primal Burst usable after you go into Ragemode). That was the most effective and cheesiest Rifle build you would ever encounter in GW2...literally 2-shotting groups of 5 people lol

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@Leo G.4501 said:

@Invoker.5462 said:Quit right before Heart of Thorns since back then the warrior+GS had been nerfed to the ground, complained about it on the forums and nothing ever happened.

You missed out on the ridiculousness of Gunflame (Rifle's Primal Burst usable after you go into Ragemode). That was the most effective and cheesiest Rifle build you would ever encounter in GW2...literally 2-shotting groups of 5 people lol

Do you remember when Anet showcased Berserker on Twitch and they shot one Gunflame into the Group of Golems(PvP Area) and literally all of them died?

Good times.

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When choosing riffle you are making a trade offs.I would not consider playing riffle on a core or spellbreaker warrior, because core warrior burst is just pretty garbage. With berserker on the other hand, weapon shows off some fang, and damage of flaming gun primal burst is still pretty good and funny, especially on the wvw, but also in open world this weapon is useful since its your only valid option for dealing damage in range to be honest if you play power build.Riffle power berserker may not be the strongest build in the world, but it is still useful if you choose riffle just to give yourself some range. In pvp if people run away from my Giant sword berseker i just swap to the rifle and burst them down, its funny to see someone getting 1 shoot for over 10k. I may remind you, power berk with rifle will never be a deadeye or something else, its own mediocore thing for a warrior, not something that break worlds in half.On my power berserker i run thishttp://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJARkCldAnIWICs3i7yN6e8AyABNjAQEYAA-jxBBQBA4JAoPdB1Y/BNq87kKBVo6PV4SAEA4A48zz8zDs+6rv+6r31nv+6nv+6nf+5nXKgRlaB-eSimply because i dont bother getting seperate eq for pve and WvW. I got 75% crit chance, so i wont overlap it when getting fury buff, and that 5% gap is for flag of your own or someone else boons.

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If you want to play rifle warrior for WvW or PvP, you should do it only if you have mastered the warrior.If you want to play rifle warrior for PvE content then you can choose any build you want, the NPCs are dumb.

However, for competitive modes where human players are involved, choosing rifle can be a double edge sword because you can kill noobs easily, but against good players, rifle warrior has limited survival and output damage. You will not be able to beat good players because apart from warrior, everyone else has gotten a lot of survival skills on their regular skills, also new runes were introduced and barrier was introduce.

Warrior on the other hand did not benefit from barrier or defensive runes. On the contrary, warrior received a huge damage nerfed.

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Rifle and Warrior together in the same sentence?Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.P.S. Unless you mean Open World PvE, it that case, every build is viable even R-Ri-Rifle Warrior (it's even hard to write such an abominion).

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As everyone pretty much has stated, Rifle is more of a secondary weapon to use when you need to range something on a power build. Gunflame on a Berserker + Volley will kill players in WvW and PvP if you set it up right, but rifle needs a serious overhaul before it is anything other than a secondary weapon. Longbow autos do as much damage as rifle autos. Heck even on my power build I run longbow sometimes as my range option, because even though people use sword and longbow as condi weapons they are hybrid weapons with strong power skills on their bars. Pin Down is better than Brutal Shot when setting up a burst, and Arcing Arrow will hit hard on a power build, the condi is some added pressure before swapping back to your main weapon.

If you want to play a dps rifle build then roll up a Deadeye. However, if you really like warriors and rifles then roll up a Berserker and Gunflame everything to death. Go Arms, Strength, Berserker for full dps, or swap either Arms or Strength for Defense if you are not confident in your ability to proactively avoid damage.

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@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:As everyone pretty much has stated, Rifle is more of a secondary weapon to use when you need to range something on a power build. Gunflame on a Berserker + Volley will kill players in WvW and PvP if you set it up right, but rifle needs a serious overhaul before it is anything other than a secondary weapon. Longbow autos do as much damage as rifle autos. Heck even on my power build I run longbow sometimes as my range option, because even though people use sword and longbow as condi weapons they are hybrid weapons with strong power skills on their bars. Pin Down is better than Brutal Shot when setting up a burst, and Arcing Arrow will hit hard on a power build, the condi is some added pressure before swapping back to your main weapon.

If you want to play a dps rifle build then roll up a Deadeye. However, if you really like warriors and rifles then roll up a Berserker and Gunflame everything to death. Go Arms, Strength, Berserker for full dps, or swap either Arms or Strength for Defense if you are not confident in your ability to proactively avoid damage.

If we compare the dmg output,Longbow Auto does 5-6k on Meta Event bosses and i often get 1k Burn ticks on full zerker gear.

Arcing Shot is like 11-12k dmg.Add the longlasting Burst Field Power dmg.....

How can rifle compete?

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It's a decent weapon, I like it much better than Longbow on a power build. I run it as part of my main weapon set in WvW, along with dual Axe. A mixed melee\ranged weapon set is not the strongest, but it does offer a bit more flexibility at times. It absolutely destroys necros, which can be problematic in a dual melee setup.

The weapon offers reasonable pierce on rifle 3 and the F1, a strong knockback on rifle 5, and a evade\immobilize with rifle 4. If you are using these skills effectively rifle can be a good weapon. Rifle 5 alone has won me numerous small scale battles where I was able to knock an enemy off a downed ally at a clutch moment to deny an important stomp or vice versa, an important rez. I was able to win two 2v3's in a row recently simply by landing clutch rifle 5's.

A lot of Warriors miss their rifle 5's, never bother with effective pierce attacks, and don't concentrate on landing good Rifle4/F1 combo's. These are all key to good Rifle play.

The only thing bad thing is the self-root on the core F1, remove that and it would be much more effective to play.

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@sneakytails.5629 said:It's a decent weapon, I like it much better than Longbow on a power build. I run it as part of my main weapon set in WvW, along with dual Axe. A mixed melee\ranged weapon set is not the strongest, but it does offer a bit more flexibility at times. It absolutely destroys necros, which can be problematic in a dual melee setup.

The weapon offers reasonable pierce on rifle 3 and the F1, a strong knockback on rifle 5, and a evade\immobilize with rifle 4. If you are using these skills effectively rifle can be a good weapon. Rifle 5 alone has won me numerous small scale battles where I was able to knock an enemy off a downed ally at a clutch moment to deny an important stomp or vice versa, an important rez. I was able to win two 2v3's in a row recently simply by landing clutch rifle 5's.

A lot of Warriors miss their rifle 5's, never bother with effective pierce attacks, and don't concentrate on landing good Rifle4/F1 combo's. These are all key to good Rifle play.

The only thing bad thing is the self-root on the core F1, remove that and it would be much more effective to play.

That self root... smh. But this is how to play rifle. You need to mind your positioning and time Brutal Shot right. I've found Pin Down to be just as effect as Brutal Shot, but Sneaky here is right that I miss Rifle5 when I run longbow instead.

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@Susy.7529 said:Rifle and Warrior together in the same sentence?Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.P.S. Unless you mean Open World PvE, it that case, every build is viable even R-Ri-Rifle Warrior (it's even hard to write such an abominion).

Yeah its so terrible doing double 12 - 15k gunflames with blood reckoning on people from 1500 range,what an aweful weapon !

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@Caedmon.6798 said:

@"Susy.7529" said:Rifle and Warrior together in the same sentence?Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.P.S. Unless you mean Open World PvE, it that case, every build is viable even R-Ri-Rifle Warrior (it's even hard to write such an abominion).

Yeah its so terrible doing double 12 - 15k gunflames with blood reckoning on people from 1500 range,what an aweful weapon !

People probably expect double endure pain defense warrior one-shotting everything with rifle. Rifle is pretty good, it is just about surprising enemies/baiting dodges or else it won't work. Rifle builds are not sustain builds. Some things could be improved though, like autoattack damage, Killshot cast time depending on adrenaline level, etc.

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This is my WvW build. Glass cannon with some serious bursts.Even though there are 3 signets, I prefer Strength traitline. The goal of this build is to gain high might spike during burst. Strength gives a lot of additional power compared to Arms. Rune of Brawler gives 10 might with Restorative Strength trait, SoR another 5 might and Signet of Might another 10 might. That's easy 20-25 might for opening Berserk bursts. Sigil of Agility gives swiftness which is very useful when SoR is on CD, it triggers Warrior's Sprint damage modifier. Sigil of Air can be swapped to Bloodlust for significant damage increase, but I personally don't like stacking sigils.Yes, it is kinda one trick pony high risk build, but if played right (surprising enemies), it is very rewarding. Situation awareness is essential and tunnel vision kills you.

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Rifle + GS Arms Disc Berserker probably

Bait dodge/cd with Volley and/or Gunflame > finish with Arc Divider. It's pretty hard if you get chain CC'd tho, you can only really fit balanced stance like this.

Need Disc for the adrenaline on weapon switch and burst refund + 7% more F1 damage.

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Rifle +GS Arms Strength Berserker.

Arms will give you fury+ adrenaline on immobilize, full Vulnerability stacks, 100% crit on bursts. Strength for Peak Performance and Berserker's power, which ends up being more damage than with Burst Mastery. Volley and WWA will kit or +20k if you miss with Gunflame or Arc Divider.

I don't run Opportunist myself and don't have problems with adrenaline. I bait them in, do some damage, then Headbutt -> Berserk Mode. Savage Instinct breaks the stun from Headbutt for me.

See BlackTruth, its more than F1 Spam :tongue:

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Core rifle is problematic. The burst is just a terrible skill, probably not worth using in any game mode except for amusement. The talent, crack shot, is in the trait line that rewards switching weapons.

They should move the talent to a different trait line, and change the burst skill to something like "full auto", a conic aoe. Then it would have real use.

-Jeff

P.S. I too have a build for rifle warrior, but it's just for the imagery. My engineer and deadeye can use a rifle much better.

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@"jaif.3518" said:Core rifle is problematic. The burst is just a terrible skill, probably not worth using in any game mode except for amusement. The talent, crack shot, is in the trait line that rewards switching weapons.

They should move the talent to a different trait line, and change the burst skill to something like "full auto", a conic aoe. Then it would have real use.

-Jeff

P.S. I too have a build for rifle warrior, but it's just for the imagery. My engineer and deadeye can use a rifle much better.

I dont see a problem with crackshit bwing in discipline, tbh rifle is a weapon you rly need the low weapon swap cd. When playing rifle/gs you rly need to switch between those 2 constantly, to deal with projectile hate and kiting with your gs, while getting some hits oit with it.

It feels horrible to be stuck on rifle when you need to swap to gs

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Yeah, I remember when they took the bleeding off of it and compensated for a smidgen higher coefficient. Never did as much total damage after that. They made rifle the ranged power weapon by default, but the AA and Crackshot do not reflect that. AA needs to at least do 30% more damage and Crackshot itself needs to offer more than reduce recharge and more adrenaline gain.

Here is a proposal:Crackshot: Rifle and Harpoon gun attacks pierce. Rifle and Harpoon gun skills gain a 20% reduction in recharge. You deal 10% more damage versus crippled foes.

That last part is something that I've felt Warriors have been missing. We have a Cripple on almost every weapon set but Leg Specialist is the only trait we have that works with cripple. This would give a reason to run something other than Warrior's Sprint. Before cries of power creep pop up Warrior's Sprint also offers a damage boost while you have sprint albeit a damage boost that is laughably small, which I think should also be higher.

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@"Lan Deathrider.5910" said:Yeah, I remember when they took the bleeding off of it and compensated for a smidgen higher coefficient. Never did as much total damage after that. They made rifle the ranged power weapon by default, but the AA and Crackshot do not reflect that. AA needs to at least do 30% more damage and Crackshot itself needs to offer more than reduce recharge and more adrenaline gain.

Here is a proposal:Crackshot: Rifle and Harpoon gun attacks pierce. Rifle and Harpoon gun skills gain a 20% reduction in recharge. You deal 10% more damage versus crippled foes.

That last part is something that I've felt Warriors have been missing. We have a Cripple on almost every weapon set but Leg Specialist is the only trait we have that works with cripple. This would give a reason to run something other than Warrior's Sprint. Before cries of power creep pop up Warrior's Sprint also offers a damage boost while you have sprint albeit a damage boost that is laughably small, which I think should also be higher.

Would prefer if auto attack was a 3 round burst, and rifle 2 was an aoe attack.

Rifle's issue isn't necessarily the damaage but the overabundance of skills that "feel the same" (1, 2, 4). and it suffers from poor adrenaline gain as nothing cleaves.

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