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EOTM needs love

I recently came back to the game after a long absence. Tonight every WvW map had a queue of ~20 so I decided to check out EOTM.
And it was dead. I mean totally, completely, not a single active friendly player on the map dead.
What is the purpose of having EOTM available if it never gets used, even during peak times when there is a 30 minute queue for the other WvW maps?
Devs should improve EOTM rewards so that it's active again like it used to be.

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  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 11, 2019

    Eotm's purpose was to have a temporary area to play it if all 4 maps were already full, which happened a lot back in the day when Eotm was first introduced. Unfortunately the population has gone down over the years and the only time you may even need eotm is on reset night, usually queues last maybe 2 hours and then it dies off for the week, but even then people would rather just sit semi afk waiting on their queue.

    Also, thought this was kinda funny, at reset, in tier 1.

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  • steki.1478steki.1478 Member ✭✭✭✭

    It's because of wvw reset. It's pretty much the only day when 4 map queues are a thing.

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  • Gop.8713Gop.8713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Given anet's desire to use existing content for their 'bonus event' initiative I think eotm actually is ripe for an event one of these weeks. But they already did no downstate for wvw so idk how long it would be before they returned to wvw for another weekly event . . .

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 11, 2019

    Getting EOTM removed from game and salavage the map for something else would be an improvement....

    EOTM can have some interesting mechanics but the way Anet dev's achieved those mechanics feel cheap coded, like the scorpion transmogs....

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    rewards would be a simple way to get ppl interested, especially players that don't usually wvw. I think a good improvement would be to have uncontestable waypoints in all keeps and towers. I don't like how long it takes to find fights, especially when the other zerg is trying to avoid you, which is easy in this map. scoring doesn't matter here, the only reason for it to exist is for fights, so anything that promotes that should at least get a tryout. maybe instead of waypoints, jump pads that shoot you really far could get a test. idk something.

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Offair.2563 said:
    No people stopped playing there as exp gain got stopped there, aswell no pip gain there so no rewards> no players.

    Heh I know that, I was pointing out what eotm's actual purpose was, not what everyone used it for.

    And no it's shouldn't be made into a reward merry go round again.
    You want wvw rewards, earn it in actual wvw maps.

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  • Either it's just a bug, or they sneaked some updates in we don't know about, but you gain Pips in EOTM.
    Last week i was bored and decided to take a break from being blobbed 24/7 so i went a bit roaming there and noticed:
    1. you gain pips
    2. if you flip a Flag your Participation increases.
    3. you can gain Outnumbered Pips.

  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Pics or it didn't happen.

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

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  • Malavian.4695Malavian.4695 Member ✭✭

    If they take the new mount, the Wyvern and make it usable in EotM it might bring some life back to it....

  • phreeak.1023phreeak.1023 Member ✭✭
    edited May 12, 2019

    how to revive EOTM? make it the 4th WvW map. Like EBG .... problem solved. saidly Anet wont do nothing about EoTM

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 13, 2019

    If EotM was revised do only give out rewards if played like the other WvW maps, how many of the EotM supporters would be behind that? If so, why not just play on the other WvW maps? If not, then essentially you want a PvE map to earn WvW rewards.

  • Nvidius.3512Nvidius.3512 Member
    edited May 24, 2019

    @phreeak.1023 said:
    how to revive EOTM? make it the 4th WvW map. Like EBG .... problem solved. saidly Anet wont do nothing about EoTM

    I agree. Perhaps replacing one of the alpine borderlands with EOTM would make things interesting.

  • Glider.5792Glider.5792 Member ✭✭✭

    @Nvidius.3512 said:

    @phreeak.1023 said:
    how to revive EOTM? make it the 4th WvW map. Like EBG .... problem solved. saidly Anet wont do nothing about EoTM

    I agree. Perhaps replacing one of the alpine borderlands with EOTM would make things interesting.

    Map would need alot of balance changes before that could happen. Currently some sides are extremly more powerful the the others.

    • Red has scorps, wurm tunnels/portals and turrets (OP side)
    • Green has cannon(kind of useless), some detection turrets (useful) and... invul sparks ??
    • Blue has damage reduction buff, slower enemies in keep and.... more guards ??.

    All of these must first be removed, so all sides are the same. Guards should all be turned to just default ones, no grawl/kodan/ogres.

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  • Kraljevo.2801Kraljevo.2801 Member ✭✭✭

    They should recycle it somehow. It served its purpose back in the day and now it's just empty all the time. Perhaps they don't mind that the map is in the state it is? Only ANet knows.

    This forum is boring as kitten

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭

    this is nice that we have chill map for chill pve like players to get some www track for gift-legendary wep.

  • TinkTinkPOOF.9201TinkTinkPOOF.9201 Member ✭✭✭

    Remove mounts from WvW, add mounts etc to EoTM, put rewards back as they were before nerfs, done.

    "When you power creep the game and make it so that spam gameplay is nearly as effective as deep knowledge and nuance, the quality of players will decrease." -Exedore

  • A solution could be to make a map currency unique to EotM similar to living world currencies that get rewarded in an EotM only reward track and enable full pips. This map currency can then be used to purchase skins and items specific to EotM from a special vendor from EotM. This will encourage players to play in EotM but not take away from wvw.

  • To clarify this means EotM will have only its own reward track and none of the wvw ones so it will not take away people who want wvw track rewards from wvw.

  • RedShark.9548RedShark.9548 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    To clarify this means EotM will have only its own reward track and none of the wvw ones so it will not take away people who want wvw track rewards from wvw.

    It takes away wvw player that play wvw, but dont need those rewards anymore

  • DeathPanel.8362DeathPanel.8362 Member ✭✭
    edited June 7, 2019

    @RedShark.9548 said:
    It takes away wvw player that play wvw, but dont need those rewards anymore

    That logic doesn't follow. If a wvw player don't need the rewards anymore and plays only for the sake of playing wvw then they would have no reason to play EOTM because EOTM is very different from wvw. And if that player plays EOTM for the new rewards then it stands to reason the same player would play any other new content that comes out for the new rewards and be away from wvw because of it. Either way my idea wouldn't change the way this player in your example behaves.

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 7, 2019

    Delete eotm from game seams a decent work arround.

    Useless and abandoned map.

  • RedShark.9548RedShark.9548 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    @RedShark.9548 said:
    It takes away wvw player that play wvw, but dont need those rewards anymore

    That logic doesn't follow. If a wvw player don't need the rewards anymore and plays only for the sake of playing wvw then they would have no reason to play EOTM because EOTM is very different from wvw. And if that player plays EOTM for the new rewards then it stands to reason the same player would play any other new content that comes out for the new rewards and be away from wvw because of it. Either way my idea wouldn't change the way this player in your example behaves.

    Honestly, its not THAT different if you dont follow everybody elses karmatrain, or just look for fights etc. There are enough similarities to draw wvw player to that for the rewards.

  • @RedShark.9548 said:
    Honestly, its not THAT different if you dont follow everybody elses karmatrain, or just look for fights etc. There are enough similarities to draw wvw player to that for the rewards.

    Your logic still doesn't follow. The player in your example plays wvw despite not needing any more rewards. This means that person is playing wvw specifically for the sake of wvw. But at the same time you are saying this person would be drawn to EOTM for the rewards when the premise is that this person isn't playing for rewards in the first place. So your logic contradicts itself.

  • What's more likely is that the changes to EOTM I talk about would attract PVE players the same way a new LW map attracts them. A new map currency, armor set, and skins similar to the Jahai and Dragonfall maps. Arenanet can easily make that EOTM map change as the next LW season.

  • RedShark.9548RedShark.9548 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    @RedShark.9548 said:
    Honestly, its not THAT different if you dont follow everybody elses karmatrain, or just look for fights etc. There are enough similarities to draw wvw player to that for the rewards.

    Your logic still doesn't follow. The player in your example plays wvw despite not needing any more rewards. This means that person is playing wvw specifically for the sake of wvw. But at the same time you are saying this person would be drawn to EOTM for the rewards when the premise is that this person isn't playing for rewards in the first place. So your logic contradicts itself.

    Yes, because wvw and eotm are simialiar enough to be played by the same type of person. But if given more rewards (because they have all Normal Wvw rewards) they will play eotm.

    Whats so hard to understand about that?

  • DeathPanel.8362DeathPanel.8362 Member ✭✭
    edited June 8, 2019

    >

    Yes, because wvw and eotm are simialiar enough to be played by the same type of person. But if given more rewards (because they have all Normal Wvw rewards) they will play eotm.

    Whats so hard to understand about that?

    Apparently you’re the one that don’t understand. They’re not played by the same type of person. People used EotM mainly to level alts and karma train. It was a glorified pve farm zone. It wasn’t at all similar to how people play Wvw. It was mostly pve farmers that played it. They just went to the Silverwastes when EotM was nerfed.

  • DeathPanel.8362DeathPanel.8362 Member ✭✭
    edited June 8, 2019

    @RedShark.9548 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    To clarify this means EotM will have only its own reward track and none of the wvw ones so it will not take away people who want wvw track rewards from wvw.

    It takes away wvw player that play wvw, but dont need those rewards anymore

    I need to point out that your original point is flawed. In order to not need the rewards anyone one would need to be either bored badly by wvw in which case they’d stop playing or have gotten everything already which means they’d have to be at minimal rank 2000(req for legendary wvw armor) with thousands of hours in wvw. Even if you’re right the number lost through this would be inconsequential because that’s 0.1% of the population. If we’re being generous.

  • LetoII.3782LetoII.3782 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Stick green with it, weaken the strongest server in the match.

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  • Zavijah.2695Zavijah.2695 Member ✭✭

    I remember levelling multiple characters back in the day on EOTM and I was sad to see that all change, as it was a good fun way to level so I could then focus on hearing and going out in to the world with a completed character to experience all the content as story only.

    I hope they repurpose this map for some other reason in the future as it was well designed and I liked it.

  • This... ppl left wvw for the easy farm and wvw suffered because of it. That cant be allowed to happen again.

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    Apparently you’re the one that don’t understand. They’re not played by the same type of person. People used EotM mainly to level alts and karma train. It was a glorified pve farm zone. It wasn’t at all similar to how people play Wvw. It was mostly pve farmers that played it. They just went to the Silverwastes when EotM was nerfed.

    I like the map, its a fun map, just dont like what people used to do on it. Would be good if they made it a regular wvw map and rotated it weekly with Desert BL.

  • Zuldari.3940Zuldari.3940 Member ✭✭✭

    @Aeolus.3615 said:
    Getting EOTM removed from game and salavage the map for something else would be an improvement....

    EOTM can have some interesting mechanics but the way Anet dev's achieved those mechanics feel cheap coded, like the scorpion transmogs....

    Make it a smaller map and only allow 2 teams of no more than 10 or 20 like capture the flag. I would love a smaller game that you can queue with a smaller group, really not a fan of the zergs.

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  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    @RedShark.9548 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    To clarify this means EotM will have only its own reward track and none of the wvw ones so it will not take away people who want wvw track rewards from wvw.

    It takes away wvw player that play wvw, but dont need those rewards anymore

    I need to point out that your original point is flawed. In order to not need the rewards anyone one would need to be either bored badly by wvw in which case they’d stop playing or have gotten everything already which means they’d have to be at minimal rank 2000(req for legendary wvw armor) with thousands of hours in wvw. Even if you’re right the number lost through this would be inconsequential because that’s 0.1% of the population. If we’re being generous.

    You dont need 2000 rank for legendary wvw armor.

  • @Voltekka.2375 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    @RedShark.9548 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    To clarify this means EotM will have only its own reward track and none of the wvw ones so it will not take away people who want wvw track rewards from wvw.

    It takes away wvw player that play wvw, but dont need those rewards anymore

    I need to point out that your original point is flawed. In order to not need the rewards anyone one would need to be either bored badly by wvw in which case they’d stop playing or have gotten everything already which means they’d have to be at minimal rank 2000(req for legendary wvw armor) with thousands of hours in wvw. Even if you’re right the number lost through this would be inconsequential because that’s 0.1% of the population. If we’re being generous.

    You dont need 2000 rank for legendary wvw armor.

    Yes you do. If you want the mistforged legendary.

  • DeathPanel.8362DeathPanel.8362 Member ✭✭
    edited June 8, 2019

    @Lady Sapphirah.6234 said:
    This... ppl left wvw for the easy farm and wvw suffered because of it. That cant be allowed to happen again.

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    Apparently you’re the one that don’t understand. They’re not played by the same type of person. People used EotM mainly to level alts and karma train. It was a glorified pve farm zone. It wasn’t at all similar to how people play Wvw. It was mostly pve farmers that played it. They just went to the Silverwastes when EotM was nerfed.

    You’re not understanding. People mostly used EotM as Pve karma train. They didn’t leave wvw. Wvw was simply getting stale because it didn’t have reward tracks back then. The people that used to do EotM are mostly doing Silverwastes trains now, not wvw.

  • DeathPanel.8362DeathPanel.8362 Member ✭✭
    edited June 8, 2019

    The biggest misconception people have is that somehow EotM and wvw shared the same player base. They don’t. One set is a mostly pve group after karma train. The other set is after wvw Zerg/roaming pvp. Nerfing EotM didn’t make the farmers join wvw. It just made them move on to a pve farm zone. Ie Silverwastes. Improving EotM in the way I talked about isn’t going to detract from wvw. It would just encourage part of the pve population to go there the same way a new LS zone attracts them.

  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    @Voltekka.2375 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    @RedShark.9548 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    To clarify this means EotM will have only its own reward track and none of the wvw ones so it will not take away people who want wvw track rewards from wvw.

    It takes away wvw player that play wvw, but dont need those rewards anymore

    I need to point out that your original point is flawed. In order to not need the rewards anyone one would need to be either bored badly by wvw in which case they’d stop playing or have gotten everything already which means they’d have to be at minimal rank 2000(req for legendary wvw armor) with thousands of hours in wvw. Even if you’re right the number lost through this would be inconsequential because that’s 0.1% of the population. If we’re being generous.

    You dont need 2000 rank for legendary wvw armor.

    Yes you do. If you want the mistforged legendary.

    You can craft T2 legendary, which has no rank requirements.

  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    The biggest misconception people have is that somehow EotM and wvw shared the same player base. They don’t. One set is a mostly pve group after karma train. The other set is after wvw Zerg/roaming pvp. Nerfing EotM didn’t make the farmers join wvw. It just made them move on to a pve farm zone. Ie Silverwastes. Improving EotM in the way I talked about isn’t going to detract from wvw. It would just encourage part of the pve population to go there the same way a new LS zone attracts them.

    Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more. This topic like many others before it offers nothing new. I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps, new content instead of this.

  • RedShark.9548RedShark.9548 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2019

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    >

    Yes, because wvw and eotm are simialiar enough to be played by the same type of person. But if given more rewards (because they have all Normal Wvw rewards) they will play eotm.

    Whats so hard to understand about that?

    Apparently you’re the one that don’t understand. They’re not played by the same type of person. People used EotM mainly to level alts and karma train. It was a glorified pve farm zone. It wasn’t at all similar to how people play Wvw. It was mostly pve farmers that played it. They just went to the Silverwastes when EotM was nerfed.

    Dude, im almost rank 4k aswell, ive leveled many character there, ive also played wirh my guild there and also sometimes one of our servers public commanders jumped into wvw, because we had no one to fight in our normal borders.

    Like i said, eotm is what you make it. Ofc many played it just training in a circle, but ive seen MANY times zergs that just ran around and busted the karmatrains. If wvw veterans are drawn to it, what would stop them from playing the mode how they want?

    There are many ppl over 2k rank, after almost 7 years.
    How could you ever say that it has no similiarities at all, geez.

  • TinkTinkPOOF.9201TinkTinkPOOF.9201 Member ✭✭✭

    @Aeolus.3615 said:
    Delete eotm from game seams a decent work arround.

    Useless and abandoned map.

    If you delete it from the game, then I wont have it to point to when I show people how clueless anet is about the WvW population and the fact it was only ever a ktrain PvE map.

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  • @Voltekka.2375 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    The biggest misconception people have is that somehow EotM and wvw shared the same player base. They don’t. One set is a mostly pve group after karma train. The other set is after wvw Zerg/roaming pvp. Nerfing EotM didn’t make the farmers join wvw. It just made them move on to a pve farm zone. Ie Silverwastes. Improving EotM in the way I talked about isn’t going to detract from wvw. It would just encourage part of the pve population to go there the same way a new LS zone attracts them.

    Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more. This topic like many others before it offers nothing new. I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps, new content instead of this.

    You: Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more.
    You in the same paragraph: I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps.

  • DeathPanel.8362DeathPanel.8362 Member ✭✭
    edited June 8, 2019

    @RedShark.9548 said:
    Like i said, eotm is what you make it. Ofc many played it just training in a circle, but ive seen MANY times zergs that just ran around and busted the karmatrains. If wvw veterans are drawn to it, what would stop them from playing the mode how they want?

    There are many ppl over 2k rank, after almost 7 years.
    How could you ever say that it has no similiarities at all, geez.

    I never same there were NO similarities. Just that they weren't similar in more ways than similar. There's a difference there. By some standards even Conquest is similar to WvW since they both have the same professions and mechanics.
    Most people don't play WvW full time. Most people haven't played since release day. Vast majority of people don't have over 2k rank. Your point once again is flawed.

  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    @Voltekka.2375 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    The biggest misconception people have is that somehow EotM and wvw shared the same player base. They don’t. One set is a mostly pve group after karma train. The other set is after wvw Zerg/roaming pvp. Nerfing EotM didn’t make the farmers join wvw. It just made them move on to a pve farm zone. Ie Silverwastes. Improving EotM in the way I talked about isn’t going to detract from wvw. It would just encourage part of the pve population to go there the same way a new LS zone attracts them.

    Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more. This topic like many others before it offers nothing new. I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps, new content instead of this.

    You: Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more.
    You in the same paragraph: I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps.

    You DO understand that eotm and new ls maps are quite different things, I hope? Eotm is silverwastes, no fights, karma train. It should be easy to get. Hopefully.

  • Balthazzarr.1349Balthazzarr.1349 Member ✭✭✭

    eotm needs deleting.

    Just another WvW lifer who'll never say die... while dying again and again!

  • @Voltekka.2375 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    @Voltekka.2375 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    The biggest misconception people have is that somehow EotM and wvw shared the same player base. They don’t. One set is a mostly pve group after karma train. The other set is after wvw Zerg/roaming pvp. Nerfing EotM didn’t make the farmers join wvw. It just made them move on to a pve farm zone. Ie Silverwastes. Improving EotM in the way I talked about isn’t going to detract from wvw. It would just encourage part of the pve population to go there the same way a new LS zone attracts them.

    Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more. This topic like many others before it offers nothing new. I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps, new content instead of this.

    You: Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more.
    You in the same paragraph: I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps.

    You DO understand that eotm and new ls maps are quite different things, I hope? Eotm is silverwastes, no fights, karma train. It should be easy to get. Hopefully.

    You: Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more.
    Also You in the same post: I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps.
    You directly contradicted yourself. New LS Maps are by definition PVE maps. You both said there's no need for more and said you wanted more in the same paragraph.
    You either misspoke or have cognitive dissonance.

  • Voltekka.2375Voltekka.2375 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    @Voltekka.2375 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:

    @Voltekka.2375 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    The biggest misconception people have is that somehow EotM and wvw shared the same player base. They don’t. One set is a mostly pve group after karma train. The other set is after wvw Zerg/roaming pvp. Nerfing EotM didn’t make the farmers join wvw. It just made them move on to a pve farm zone. Ie Silverwastes. Improving EotM in the way I talked about isn’t going to detract from wvw. It would just encourage part of the pve population to go there the same way a new LS zone attracts them.

    Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more. This topic like many others before it offers nothing new. I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps, new content instead of this.

    You: Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more.
    You in the same paragraph: I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps.

    You DO understand that eotm and new ls maps are quite different things, I hope? Eotm is silverwastes, no fights, karma train. It should be easy to get. Hopefully.

    You: Plenty of pve maps to farm, no need for more.
    Also You in the same post: I would rather Anet spend resources on the Alliance system, new ls maps.
    You directly contradicted yourself. New LS Maps are by definition PVE maps. You both said there's no need for more and said you wanted more in the same paragraph.
    You either misspoke or have cognitive dissonance.

    I am sorry, you wrote on a previous post/comment that you want eotm to become a pve map, and it to have reward tracks. Since my cognitive dissonance is apparent, pray tell me which PVE map has reward tracks as a feature. If you want eotm to remain a wvw map, and for it to have a reward track, you should really make better arguments to the devs mainly WHY they should spend their time to change eotm rewards. Ad hominems hardly make your case stronger.
    I am a patient man, I will wait for your apology

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2019

    @TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:

    @Aeolus.3615 said:
    Delete eotm from game seams a decent work arround.

    Useless and abandoned map.

    If you delete it from the game, then I wont have it to point to when I show people how clueless anet is about the WvW population and the fact it was only ever a ktrain PvE map.

    if Anet makes eotn a pve map in pve similar to dry top, I think I’m quoting the right map, correct if wrong, eotm gets “fixed”.

    But theres 2 serious issues here, players that want wvw rewards by leeching and ktrains that can avoid fights and the second issue is that the map at the moment is.l a death weight in the game, even the mechanics of the map like the scorpion transmigriffers are bad and that’s just a start from what’s wrong in that map....
    As a siege gamemode players whatever they built should need supply at least, there should be no transmigriffers either cause that’s a slacker solution from devolopers team.
    Scorpions or anything mobile like the charr Car should be builded as golems are and count as mobile siege.

    Maybe Anet could design eotm to be the Mists factory grounds where guilds and alliances that own those eotm keeps would have access to a tech tree they could choose from and unlock special siege, as a developer and with a siege game design mindset, this is what my mind thinks Anet should up their game, mechanics and sense of allience evolution and different strategies rather we all end in aoe spam more than target gameplay.

    ATM the best to due would be Anet remove until game has better mechanics and they can find something logical with that map.

  • Kaiser.9873Kaiser.9873 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2019

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    The biggest misconception people have is that somehow EotM and wvw shared the same player base. They don’t. One set is a mostly pve group after karma train. The other set is after wvw Zerg/roaming pvp. Nerfing EotM didn’t make the farmers join wvw. It just made them move on to a pve farm zone. Ie Silverwastes. Improving EotM in the way I talked about isn’t going to detract from wvw. It would just encourage part of the pve population to go there the same way a new LS zone attracts them.

    Then go talk about this on the PvE forums. You're on the WvW forums, because indeed it was WvW players that played EotM.

    PvE players have their farm zones. No need for EotM to become another for the massive numbers of PvE players that want to EotM.

    Now, if ANet would alternate EotM map with EBG map I could perhaps get behind that.

  • @Kaiser.9873 said:

    @DeathPanel.8362 said:
    The biggest misconception people have is that somehow EotM and wvw shared the same player base. They don’t. One set is a mostly pve group after karma train. The other set is after wvw Zerg/roaming pvp. Nerfing EotM didn’t make the farmers join wvw. It just made them move on to a pve farm zone. Ie Silverwastes. Improving EotM in the way I talked about isn’t going to detract from wvw. It would just encourage part of the pve population to go there the same way a new LS zone attracts them.

    Then go talk about this on the PvE forums. You're on the WvW forums, because indeed it was WvW players that played EotM.

    PvE players have their farm zones. No need for EotM to become another for the massive numbers of PvE players that want to EotM.

    Now, if ANet would alternate EotM map with EBG map I could perhaps get behind that.

    I'm not the one that started the topic in this forum. You should take it up with the OP if you don't think it should be in WvW. I just responded with my feedback on what can be done to encourage EOTM and not impact WvW. Your idea would directly impact WvW because it would literally replace EBG on alternates. That's a idea that many people wouldn't like.

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