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  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 3, 2019

    Eu aswell should be online in about and hour working graveyard shift.
    Havent done it yet myself and might aswell get it over with.

  • hugo.4705hugo.4705 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @hugo.4705 said:
    I've tried it for the eleventh time. Still not able to do it. Even with a player boosting me. I'm not a reptile. And the fact that each wound isn't breaking after 3 shots is annoying, I don't have thunderbolts reflexes and I struggle with targeting. Even targeted skills. Have to click then reclick where I want to shoot even when it's set on automatic in my case, now imagine a very fast flight near a dragon where I need to reclick in every beige target to turn them red before clicking skill 1 to shoot. I miss half of targets. What is the most annoying is that for dragonfall mastery, that is the only achievements left.

    go in with a full group?

    Good suggestion. Through everytime I ask in LA for help in map chat or put myself on lfg, nobody came/answered. It's okay, surely they are enjoying the new content.

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  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @hugo.4705 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @hugo.4705 said:
    I've tried it for the eleventh time. Still not able to do it. Even with a player boosting me. I'm not a reptile. And the fact that each wound isn't breaking after 3 shots is annoying, I don't have thunderbolts reflexes and I struggle with targeting. Even targeted skills. Have to click then reclick where I want to shoot even when it's set on automatic in my case, now imagine a very fast flight near a dragon where I need to reclick in every beige target to turn them red before clicking skill 1 to shoot. I miss half of targets. What is the most annoying is that for dragonfall mastery, that is the only achievements left.

    go in with a full group?

    Good suggestion. Through everytime I ask in LA for help in map chat or put myself on lfg, nobody came/answered. It's okay, surely they are enjoying the new content.

    How about 1 of the 5 guilds you should/can be in?

  • @Zoe.8310 said:
    I didn't say it was impossible, I said it's a bloody nightmare

    There are a number of achievements/HP/collections/etc in the game that are very much in the territory of, "I have more fun hunting smokescales on a core thief."

    The Commander will end you.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 4, 2019

    @Zoe.8310 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Zoe.8310 said:
    This achievement is a NIGHTMARE solo....

    They really should make required achievements soloable :-\

    And targeting the weakpoints is horrible. None of the targeting hotkeys work on him, and trying to manually click within that tiny window of time is just ridiculous

    It is soloable.

    Thanks for the curt reply... I didn't say it was impossible, I said it's a bloody nightmare

    It was a response to the very next line of your post where you said they should really make required achievements soloable. That statement is implying that it's not.

    @Zoe.8310 said:
    This achievement is a NIGHTMARE solo....

    They really should make required achievements soloable :-\

    And targeting the weakpoints is horrible. None of the targeting hotkeys work on him, and trying to manually click within that tiny window of time is just ridiculous

  • I had the same problem before and was reading and checking some video. I got my achievement solo after 2 run.
    I found out that you need to spam immediately before the phase to attack his weak points started, Aurene will begin to speak so you know the phase is starting.
    If you are in europe zone, can help you at 5 PM UTC time, just mail me.

  • Zaxares.5419Zaxares.5419 Member ✭✭✭

    It is possible to get this achieve solo, but it is much easier with a friend or two. The main advantage of being in a party is that they have a special buff they can apply to you that increases your damage by 50%, allowing you to destroy weak spots in just 2 shots rather than 3. The buff only lasts for about 20 or so seconds, so if you want it constantly on you, you'll need to get your friends to stagger their skill use on you.

    Secondly, don't try to aim for the closest weak spot to you; it's a trap. (This is especially the case in the 2nd phase.) You won't be able to destroy the weak spot closest to you in time before it moves out of range and becomes untargetable. Instead, aim for a weak spot 1 or 2 spots ahead, and click to select a new target as soon as your 2nd (or 3rd, depending on whether you're solo or with a group) shot is released.

  • Giotto.2607Giotto.2607 Member ✭✭

    I cant get get this achievement after 8 tries. Gave up and playing wvw for the corsair boot. A lot easier!

  • Farson.5730Farson.5730 Member
    edited July 16, 2020

    Finally got around to going after this achievement. Not a slam dunk to solo but I managed to get it after about a dozen tries and using the pointers provided above (thanks!). I think I was too panicked the first six times through so I kept moving to the next target too early. Slowing down the targeting and mashing the 1 button helps. Also seems to be required to get at least 3 or probably 4 of them destroyed in the first phase. I got better at the early targets which seemed to push me to the 10 total. Agree with all those who commented on the counter. Would have been nice to include a count so you could track what was working vs. not working as far as targeting.

    Good luck to all! It is possible to solo!

  • Orminis.6983Orminis.6983 Member
    edited July 30, 2020

    I just constantly have miss miss miss miss miss miss .... on 2nd phase after passing the backbones I can not target or shoot anymore weak points. I have no idea what the hell is going on but this is total s h i t .

  • Critical Lag.9075Critical Lag.9075 Member ✭✭✭

    @Orminis.6983 said:
    I just constantly have miss miss miss miss miss miss .... on 2nd phase after passing the backbones I can not target or shoot anymore weak points. I have no idea what the hell is going on but this is total s h i t .

    I've been doing some achies now and I have same problem. After passing his left wing I get "no line of sight" with every single point on the right wing.

  • hugo.4705hugo.4705 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2020

    After all the passed time, still not have that achiev and the episode mastery. It's either it's obstructed, it has been hit 2 times and require 3-4 or as said above no line of sight... there are players preferring to do story alone, and it's a very big backstab from you anet to the playerbase.

    You upgraded skyscale collection by making it friendly to players with motor issues. Can't you do the same about that achiev? I don't have buzz lightyear reflexes.

    I did try to do it with others over time, but even by boosting me, I'm too slow..... make the others dhooting orbs too or make it scales based on number of players, should require only 3 hit per wound if alone.

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  • Some time ago I complained about some Achievements that are hidden behind some group event. If the event has good rewards, you can find many groups even 1 year after the release. However, there are many ones that give no rewards at all, and if you don´t complete it in the first 2 weeks, good luck in finding someone to help.
    The achievement cited in this post is one good example. Try lfg and you are very lucky if someone joins you in 2h.

  • Algreg.3629Algreg.3629 Member ✭✭✭

    prolly some luck involved, but did it in 3rd try. and was actually quite intimated by all the complaints I read while I took a break when the episode was released. Just like in the case of Eater of Souls, most difficulty complaints are grossly exaggerated around here.

  • Critical Lag.9075Critical Lag.9075 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2020

    I've finished achievment today. I made LFG and gathered 3 other people.

    I have no idea how it worked because the damage to Kralk seemed similiar to when I was doing it solo, we couldn't target and destroy anything on right wing either but we still got achievment in the end.

    My tip for anyone else who is struggling with it, just get some other people to help. It's far better that doing this solo. Post LFG in Dragonfall category and someone will join sooner or later.

    Overall it's awful achievment, even more so for being mandatory for dragonfall META Achiev. I rate it -1000/10

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Coelho Nat.4697 said:
    Some time ago I complained about some Achievements that are hidden behind some group event. If the event has good rewards, you can find many groups even 1 year after the release. However, there are many ones that give no rewards at all, and if you don´t complete it in the first 2 weeks, good luck in finding someone to help.
    The achievement cited in this post is one good example. Try lfg and you are very lucky if someone joins you in 2h.

    The achievement can be done solo so not really a good example.

  • @Critical Lag.9075 said:

    @Orminis.6983 said:
    I just constantly have miss miss miss miss miss miss .... on 2nd phase after passing the backbones I can not target or shoot anymore weak points. I have no idea what the hell is going on but this is total s h i t .

    I've been doing some achies now and I have same problem. After passing his left wing I get "no line of sight" with every single point on the right wing.

    I have same problem as missing and no line of sight.

  • I've tried this achievement about 20 times now. The issue is that his weak spots seem to go out of LOS, or my shots miss, much more often than videos on YouTube would suggest. For example, during the second phase, the weak spots on his right wing go out of LOS almost immediately after Aurene flies past his spine. Another example is the weak spots at the end of his tail during the first phase; I cannot hit those until I am super far away.

    I've also had multiple instances where my shots will destroy weak points that I didn't target, almost as if the shots are freely aimed rather than homing/targeted.

    Has anyone else experienced this?

  • I recorded a video demonstrating the bugginess of this: (apologies for the mouse/keyboard sounds) - I target a weak spot in front of me, making sure it's not the first one as suggested by some, and it doesn't get damaged until about halfway through (I keep the combat log open to see when exactly I deal damage). The first few shots pretty much go right through him and have no effect.

    The problem is that this happens for every weak point I try; none of them can be hit until I'm about halfway through the first phase. That means that I basically don't have enough of a window to destroy enough of them.

  • Critical Lag.9075Critical Lag.9075 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 3, 2020

    Doing this in party seems to be the only way right now. I had similiar experience like you. Got 3 other people to do this achievment and we got it first try. Even when similiar issues happened in party (no LoS, misses), the damage was much higher and splash damage got more points than in solo.

  • @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Coelho Nat.4697 said:
    Some time ago I complained about some Achievements that are hidden behind some group event. If the event has good rewards, you can find many groups even 1 year after the release. However, there are many ones that give no rewards at all, and if you don´t complete it in the first 2 weeks, good luck in finding someone to help.
    The achievement cited in this post is one good example. Try lfg and you are very lucky if someone joins you in 2h.

    The achievement can be done solo so not really a good example.

    You've been repeating this statement a lot, could you provide us with a clip of you soloing this achievement? I'm interested in seeing how you fare considering its bugged beyond belief and the most recent people to have completed it have all said they needed to get a group going

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Killerbot.8645 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Coelho Nat.4697 said:
    Some time ago I complained about some Achievements that are hidden behind some group event. If the event has good rewards, you can find many groups even 1 year after the release. However, there are many ones that give no rewards at all, and if you don´t complete it in the first 2 weeks, good luck in finding someone to help.
    The achievement cited in this post is one good example. Try lfg and you are very lucky if someone joins you in 2h.

    The achievement can be done solo so not really a good example.

    You've been repeating this statement a lot, could you provide us with a clip of you soloing this achievement? I'm interested in seeing how you fare considering its bugged beyond belief and the most recent people to have completed it have all said they needed to get a group going

    There are clips of it being soloed. Just an FYI that this thread is over a year old and you just quoted a post of mine that was two months old.

  • Killerbot.8645Killerbot.8645 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2020

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Killerbot.8645 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Coelho Nat.4697 said:
    Some time ago I complained about some Achievements that are hidden behind some group event. If the event has good rewards, you can find many groups even 1 year after the release. However, there are many ones that give no rewards at all, and if you don´t complete it in the first 2 weeks, good luck in finding someone to help.
    The achievement cited in this post is one good example. Try lfg and you are very lucky if someone joins you in 2h.

    The achievement can be done solo so not really a good example.

    You've been repeating this statement a lot, could you provide us with a clip of you soloing this achievement? I'm interested in seeing how you fare considering its bugged beyond belief and the most recent people to have completed it have all said they needed to get a group going

    There are clips of it being soloed. Just an FYI that this thread is over a year old and you just quoted a post of mine that was two months old.

    Thread was still active a month ago and is one of the few results for GW2 Salt on the Wound so ''over a year old'' is irrelevant, please link me a recent clip of you or someone else soloing this, otherwise I'm going to have to assume it can't be solo'd and that your claims are wrong

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Killerbot.8645 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Killerbot.8645 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Coelho Nat.4697 said:
    Some time ago I complained about some Achievements that are hidden behind some group event. If the event has good rewards, you can find many groups even 1 year after the release. However, there are many ones that give no rewards at all, and if you don´t complete it in the first 2 weeks, good luck in finding someone to help.
    The achievement cited in this post is one good example. Try lfg and you are very lucky if someone joins you in 2h.

    The achievement can be done solo so not really a good example.

    You've been repeating this statement a lot, could you provide us with a clip of you soloing this achievement? I'm interested in seeing how you fare considering its bugged beyond belief and the most recent people to have completed it have all said they needed to get a group going

    There are clips of it being soloed. Just an FYI that this thread is over a year old and you just quoted a post of mine that was two months old.

    Thread was still active a month ago and is one of the few results for GW2 Salt on the Wound so ''over a year old'' is irrelevant, please link me a recent clip of you or someone else soloing this, otherwise I'm going to have to assume it can't be solo'd and that your claims are wrong

    The encounter hasn’t changed so find any on YouTube. The age of the thread, including when I posted, is relevant to the part where you said I keep repeating the statement. I said it three times over the course of a year and half...

  • Maky Avari.3214Maky Avari.3214 Member
    edited September 5, 2020

    @lostinthought.7540 said:
    I've tried this achievement about 20 times now. The issue is that his weak spots seem to go out of LOS, or my shots miss, much more often than videos on YouTube would suggest. For example, during the second phase, the weak spots on his right wing go out of LOS almost immediately after Aurene flies past his spine. Another example is the weak spots at the end of his tail during the first phase; I cannot hit those until I am super far away.

    I've also had multiple instances where my shots will destroy weak points that I didn't target, almost as if the shots are freely aimed rather than homing/targeted.

    Has anyone else experienced this?

    I'm experiencing the exact same issue. I think this actually is bugged. Everytime I fly past the spine on the second attacking phase I can't target any of the weakpoints. They are all "Out of Line Of Site", even though they are right there in front of me. Would love a fix to this.

    EDIT: In the meantime, anyone having trouble with this can add me as a friend and we can try doing it together. Maybe that will work?

  • Tyncale.1629Tyncale.1629 Member ✭✭✭

    I will add my post to this thread, I have tried it 6 times with a group and failed and then we called it a day. I do hope Anet makes this achievement easier.

  • I have the same issue as you are all having. I even submitted a bug report on it.

  • @Voss.9372 said:
    I have the same issue as you are all having. I even submitted a bug report on it.

    Just to update anyone curious, I was able to get the achievement with 1 other person in my party. I still firmly believe it is bugged. Not being able to hit 90% of the weak points is just wrong.

  • eldran.8134eldran.8134 Member
    edited October 12, 2020

    Anyone interested by doing it ? still need this last one and not the patience to try it again solo -_-. I'm in the EU, no luck so far with LFG.

    ps : did it with two other players, succeed first time !

  • Hello,

    I'm also trying to do it, but it seems there's too much issues... Can't make it work alone!

    If you are on EU, add me and we'll try as a group!

  • LuRkEr.9462LuRkEr.9462 Member ✭✭
    edited November 11, 2020

    Its not impossible but took me around ~10 tries. I recommend watching a video on it being done and mimic their strat. Switch targets quickly.
    They say doing in a group makes it easier, I did it solo though.

  • Well, if you can direct me to a video, that would be really appreciated. I tried to find one but did not succeed. It seems like there is no video of that achievement :O

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Evandar.3678 said:
    Well, if you can direct me to a video, that would be really appreciated. I tried to find one but did not succeed. It seems like there is no video of that achievement :O

    https://www.google.com/search?q=gw2+salt+on+wound+achievement

    Go to the video tab and pick one. Ayin Maiden's guides are usually a great option. You can also go to YouTube and do a search as I'm sure there are several videos of people doing it.

  • @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Evandar.3678 said:
    Well, if you can direct me to a video, that would be really appreciated. I tried to find one but did not succeed. It seems like there is no video of that achievement :O

    https://www.google.com/search?q=gw2+salt+on+wound+achievement

    Go to the video tab and pick one. Ayin Maiden's guides are usually a great option. You can also go to YouTube and do a search as I'm sure there are several videos of people doing it.

    I don't want to sound rude, but did you check before sending this?

    What I see are 10 videos, only 4 are about the correct instance, and all of those are the full instance, without achievement.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2020

    @Evandar.3678 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Evandar.3678 said:
    Well, if you can direct me to a video, that would be really appreciated. I tried to find one but did not succeed. It seems like there is no video of that achievement :O

    https://www.google.com/search?q=gw2+salt+on+wound+achievement

    Go to the video tab and pick one. Ayin Maiden's guides are usually a great option. You can also go to YouTube and do a search as I'm sure there are several videos of people doing it.

    I don't want to sound rude, but did you check before sending this?

    What I see are 10 videos, only 4 are about the correct instance, and all of those are the full instance, without achievement.

    Ayin Maiden got the achievement in her video. Hers is probably the first video listed.

  • Are you sure of that?

    I checked the video, and even if the "eligibility" stays here after the portal, we don't see the achievement pop up, and visually it really doesn't seems like she destroyed ten.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Evandar.3678 said:
    Are you sure of that?

    I checked the video, and even if the "eligibility" stays here after the portal, we don't see the achievement pop up, and visually it really doesn't seems like she destroyed ten.

    I looked at the achievement "buff" and it's supposed to give credit when entering Fissure of Woe. You're right that it doesn't show the achievement as I thought it was briefly shown after the cutscene of Kralk falling.

  • I know a lot of people ask without searching before, but I did my research before.

    If I had found a video of the achievement being done, I would be studying it by now, not despairly trying to found the solution on this forum.

    A lot of people said "it is doable alone" but what they said doesn't works for me (lot of "missed" and "out of sight").

    And I did not found a video showing the successful achievement.

    So I guess there's only one solution left, find 4 other people willing to lose their time for that.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The thing is that I tried that mission again the the hit boxes felt different from when the episode was first released. It was entirely possible to solo it and having a group would let you get the achievement with ease back then. Anet may have broken something which isn't surprising. What also wouldn't be surprising is if this never got fixed.

  • I recently completed this achievement and was frustrated by the bugs (miss, out of sight, hitting other targets). The trick I found was to choose a target each attack phase and fire continuously; do NOT change target unless your target gets destroyed. All of the videos are outdated, change targets, and never miss.

    The first phase I targeted the center of the back, the second phase I targeted the nearest point on the left wing. All shots on the first half of each attack phase will miss, just keep firing.

  • Hesione.9412Hesione.9412 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I managed to solo mine on the third try. I read a person's post, somewhere, that mentioned only shoot ahead of yourself. I've helped another person with this achievement, and I got a "buff the damage done" action on my action bar. Apparently that helps enormously.

    The person I helped asked in LA chat so it may be worthwhile asking there for assistance. People already in DF are likely to be key farming/working towards the meta, and may be less inclined to help, for those reasons. The story is instanced, so they may not end up back on the map IP they left.

  • I managed to did it with another person.

    Alone it was (nearly ?) impossible, at least for me, but with another person it only took us 2 tries - and the first was just for explaining the mechanics.

    I think now it's quite bugged and required a lot of luck to do it alone.

  • As of today it is impossible to do alone and I have attempted with another person which also did not work. As the user above, I have researched this problem extensively and have read all of the Wiki suggestions. I have also not found a video with the achievement shown after this problem has become so unsolvable. This is preventing me from obtaining the Legendary Vision so its quite annoying that it has not been fixed. Especially since the problem has been ongoing for so many months. I have just submitted a request but am not sure how that will help me. It does not seem reasonable to put the users through all of these researching issues and running this achievement with numerous of my characters all because of a well-known issue.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Peaka.2965 said:
    As of today it is impossible to do alone and I have attempted with another person which also did not work. As the user above, I have researched this problem extensively and have read all of the Wiki suggestions. I have also not found a video with the achievement shown after this problem has become so unsolvable. This is preventing me from obtaining the Legendary Vision so its quite annoying that it has not been fixed. Especially since the problem has been ongoing for so many months. I have just submitted a request but am not sure how that will help me. It does not seem reasonable to put the users through all of these researching issues and running this achievement with numerous of my characters all because of a well-known issue.

    Do it with full team.
    When going from left to right over his body always aim 1 aurene to the right of yourself.

  • Peaka.2965Peaka.2965 Member
    edited January 26, 2021

    I was able to obtain a full team to attempt completion of the Salt in the Wound event. Thank you very much Linken.6345. Even though I did not hit anywhere near the required 10 wounds as directed, I did receive the achievement. I want to mention that the rest of the team was all in the same predicament and to their delight, they ALL received the achievement as well. This was also achieved on the first attempt as a full party. Granted this was a positive outcome; however, the weeks of attempting solo and with a lower number of party members is simply unacceptable for an over a year-long known bug. There should be some direction on the wiki page that explains how the entire achievement is irreversibly bugged and the only method of collection is for a full party. So I want to again thank Linken and Anet for this forum.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Glad you got it mate, had trouble doing it myself awhile helping some guildies.

  • @maddoctor.2738 said:
    A pointer about this achievement: it's probably bugged because you do NOT have to destroy 10 weak spots. You can do the achievement solo just fine, you don't need a team. While under Kralk find a weak spot and spam attack on it, do NOT try to hit another weak spot. Once you go to the left wing aim at the purple "horn" like thingy (there is a weak spot there) and spam attack, once Aurene moves to the right wing, find the similar purple horn and spam attack on it. You will get the achievement that way.

    I just tried this and it worked for me. Thanks for the help!

  • @Peaka.2965 said:
    As of today it is impossible to do alone and I have attempted with another person which also did not work. As the user above, I have researched this problem extensively and have read all of the Wiki suggestions. I have also not found a video with the achievement shown after this problem has become so unsolvable. This is preventing me from obtaining the Legendary Vision so its quite annoying that it has not been fixed. Especially since the problem has been ongoing for so many months. I have just submitted a request but am not sure how that will help me. It does not seem reasonable to put the users through all of these researching issues and running this achievement with numerous of my characters all because of a well-known issue.

    I'm also struggling with it, but i think it can be overriden, by the fact that you need the boots, not the achiev. Try getting them in WvW track.