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[spoiler] Why is the commander not dead?

MidnightX.6294MidnightX.6294 Member ✭✭✭

In War Eternal - the Final Cutscene, aurene and the commander are together, then aurene evolves and flys into the sky with mach 3 speed. after the flight to the stars she flys close the the group to drop the commander and is gone. WHY is the commander not dead after this flight???

Nothing to see here - move along.

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  • adormtil.1605adormtil.1605 Member ✭✭

    Do you think the commander is humans I mean earth human? Besides the fact that some of the races are well superhuman in terms of strength and resistance. One of the them are plant dragon minions that function on magic another one is small so small and its known that being small increase the chance of surviving an fall. But of course the commander can use magic no matter the profession and I am pretty sure each one can enhance the body. Also gliding and all that.

  • MidnightX.6294MidnightX.6294 Member ✭✭✭

    gliding is not traveling to the stars and back within 3 sec.

    Nothing to see here - move along.

  • DanAlcedo.3281DanAlcedo.3281 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Being the champion of an super charged elder dragon has its benefits.

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:
    Being the champion of an super charged elder dragon has its benefits.

    We're going to eat Aurene next episode and dealing with the indigestion will be season 5. Mark my words.

    Very passive aggressively chuckling, because I'm totally not mad on the Internet.

  • DanAlcedo.3281DanAlcedo.3281 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:
    Being the champion of an super charged elder dragon has its benefits.

    We're going to eat Aurene next episode and dealing with the indigestion will be season 5. Mark my words.

    I am getting /Tyriagonewild vibes here.

  • The Greyhawk.9107The Greyhawk.9107 Member ✭✭✭

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:
    Being the champion of an super charged elder dragon has its benefits.

    We're going to eat Aurene next episode and dealing with the indigestion will be season 5. Mark my words.

    I am getting /Tyriagonewild vibes here.

    I'm getting a "homeless Floridians high on bath salts and hungry for some face-meat" vibe.

    Hate Is Fuel.

  • The Commander it already dead, he was killed Balthazar . So we are technically awakened .

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If we could click on ourselves we'd see the purple and spiky border around our character portrait. We are a Legendary Creature and thus cannot be killed by mere physics.

    Very passive aggressively chuckling, because I'm totally not mad on the Internet.

  • Ultramex.1506Ultramex.1506 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vlad Filen.8049 said:
    The Commander it already dead, he was killed Balthazar . So we are technically awakened .

    but less smelly and normal skin color

  • crepuscular.9047crepuscular.9047 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 28, 2019

    @Vlad Filen.8049 said:
    The Commander it already dead, he was killed Balthazar . So we are technically awakened .

    nah, the commander is probably a demi-god now after claiming Eater of Souls' power while in Underworld, a creature not even The Judge is capable of defeat

    as The Judge's role was to direct the spirits, it could be The Judge injected his magic into the commander to allow him/her to be able to wander back to Tyria, which possibly he had stepped beyond the boundary of what Grenth had permitted him to do with his power.
    For all we know The Judge is likely not exist in UW base on Desmina's dialogues at the end of HoC

    demi-god + Sohothin = puddle of Balthazaar jelly

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  • Trise.2865Trise.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2019

    Two words: "cinematic time". It looked that way because that way looks cool. Whether it actually happened that way is another story entirely.

    If we want ANet to step up their game, then we must step up ours.

  • Patty.3268Patty.3268 Member ✭✭

    If you look closely, you can see the PC already standing in front of the group before Aurene starts her flight, right after her transformation. Probably some sort of teleportation.

  • Konig Des Todes.2086Konig Des Todes.2086 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @crepuscular.9047 said:

    @Vlad Filen.8049 said:
    The Commander it already dead, he was killed Balthazar . So we are technically awakened .

    nah, the commander is probably a demi-god now after claiming Eater of Souls' power while in Underworld, a creature not even The Judge is capable of defeat

    as The Judge's role was to direct the spirits, it could be The Judge injected his magic into the commander to allow him/her to be able to wander back to Tyria, which possibly he had stepped beyond the boundary of what Grenth had permitted him to do with his power.
    For all we know The Judge is likely not exist in UW base on Desmina's dialogues at the end of HoC

    demi-god + Sohothin = puddle of Balthazaar jelly

    The Judge never said he could not defeat the Eater of Souls. All he says is this:

    The Judge: When Balthazar left, a fearsome beast, the Eater of Souls, rose to prey on the waning life energy of the spirits here.
    Nenah: That's got to be the screams I've heard in the distance.
    The Judge: If you were to defeat the beast and claim its power, that life energy might be strong enough to reanimate your body.
    The Judge: Allowing you to go back.
    The Judge: But if you were to fail, the beast would consume your entirety.
    The Judge: I could grant you no final reward or punishment. Your spirit would simply cease to be.

    The Judge mentions nothing about his power in relation to the Eater of Souls, doesn't even mention whether or not he cares about its existence or it feasting on souls. Just that it's there, it arrived after Balthazar left, and that any soul it consumes cannot be judged.

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    All these squares make a circle.

  • ChronoPinoyX.7923ChronoPinoyX.7923 Member ✭✭✭

    @crepuscular.9047 said:

    @Vlad Filen.8049 said:
    The Commander it already dead, he was killed Balthazar . So we are technically awakened .

    nah, the commander is probably a demi-god now after claiming Eater of Souls' power while in Underworld, a creature not even The Judge is capable of defeat

    as The Judge's role was to direct the spirits, it could be The Judge injected his magic into the commander to allow him/her to be able to wander back to Tyria, which possibly he had stepped beyond the boundary of what Grenth had permitted him to do with his power.
    For all we know The Judge is likely not exist in UW base on Desmina's dialogues at the end of HoC

    demi-god + Sohothin = puddle of Balthazaar jelly

    Nah.

    The Eater of Souls was just your bog standard parasite monster. The Judge itself could probably handle the Eater of Soul but The Judge simply acts on the task given to it which is judging souls and nothing else. All the Eater of Monster was was a jump starter to get the Commander's body functioning again. If the Commander dies again, that's it, they're dead for good unless there's another deus ex jump starter at the time of death.

  • adormtil.1605adormtil.1605 Member ✭✭

    What happens if you kill the judge?

  • Zenix.6198Zenix.6198 Member ✭✭✭

    Magic (I guess) ?! Aint gotta explain kitten.

  • Konig Des Todes.2086Konig Des Todes.2086 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @adormtil.1605 said:
    What happens if you kill the judge?

    Same thing that happens when you kill any other avatar.

    Nothing.

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    All these squares make a circle.
    All these squares make a circle.

  • Yannir.4132Yannir.4132 Member ✭✭✭✭

    There was no sonic boom so she didn't even break the sound barrier. So no Mach 3 either.

  • Sir Vincent III.1286Sir Vincent III.1286 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @MidnightX.6294 said:
    WHY is the commander not dead after this flight???

    If the commander survived the flight while chasing Kral (and getting hit by big boulders numerous times), the flyby is nothing compare to that.

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  • Kalavier.1097Kalavier.1097 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vlad Filen.8049 said:
    The Commander it already dead, he was killed Balthazar . So we are technically awakened .

    No, because being Awakened is a specific type of undeath related to Joko's power, or the power he grants some of his highest ranking servants.

    @crepuscular.9047 said:

    @Vlad Filen.8049 said:
    The Commander it already dead, he was killed Balthazar . So we are technically awakened .

    nah, the commander is probably a demi-god now after claiming Eater of Souls' power while in Underworld, a creature not even The Judge is capable of defeat

    as The Judge's role was to direct the spirits, it could be The Judge injected his magic into the commander to allow him/her to be able to wander back to Tyria, which possibly he had stepped beyond the boundary of what Grenth had permitted him to do with his power.
    For all we know The Judge is likely not exist in UW base on Desmina's dialogues at the end of HoC

    demi-god + Sohothin = puddle of Balthazaar jelly

    The commander is not a demi-god at all. The eater of Soul's power did nothing more then allow the commander to actually resurrect, as those spells/rituals/power had faded/disappeared. It was a huge risk that meant the commander could've been erased if they failed.

    The judge did absolutely nothing to influence the fight or anything to actually help us beyond going "Welp you could get back.. but it'd require killing this horrible beast."

  • The commander never got to ride Aurene when she took that flight, simple as that

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @hlaraujo.3210 said:
    The commander never got to ride Aurene when she took that flight, simple as that

    this. the com was standing with the team.

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  • Hesacon.8735Hesacon.8735 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vlad Filen.8049 said:
    The Commander it already dead, he was killed Balthazar . So we are technically awakened .

    Risen.

  • Kulvar.1239Kulvar.1239 Member ✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:
    Being the champion of an super charged elder dragon has its benefits.

    We're going to eat Aurene next episode and dealing with the indigestion will be season 5. Mark my words.

    If eating a toxin-cured hog is worth 10 points and a puke, eating Aurene must be worth a million points.
    Also, hard to chew crystal.

  • MithranArkanere.8957MithranArkanere.8957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @hlaraujo.3210 said:
    The commander never got to ride Aurene when she took that flight, simple as that

    Exactly.

    She didn't drop the commander after flying. She teleported the commander outside kralkatorrik's inner space which was now hers after taking over kralkatorrik's core.
    We can see the change in the space from purple branded crystals to gentle iridescent crystals and golden structures, likely from Aurene's memories.
    You can see the transition and all in the cinematic.

    Aurene takes the core, bright light, the inner space changes, Aurene Ascends, teleports the commander outside along the others, and then she takes off.

    And the commander didn't take a single step during the whole thing.

  • Telwyn.1630Telwyn.1630 Member ✭✭

    Because my male human fighter Tarwin ascalonain character is both determine to see the world is saved right to the end, and his spirit is unbreakable no matter how hard an anyone tries they can never kill Tarwin the hero of Ascalon.

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