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  • yann.1946yann.1946 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:
    Of course that majority of the people will defend Anet no matter what.
    You people should be outraged at the fact that Anet has no care for your lives and the fact that they expect you to do only GW2 in all your free time.
    Say bye to your hundreds or thousands of games on Steam if you have only 2h after your work cuz you're bound to GW2.
    They don't care that you'd like to play GW2 AND other games.

    Let's say you got kids and only 2h after work. You'd have 0 time for GW2...or maybe you'd choose it over your kids... idk. But Anet certainly forces you to choose.

    I see the exact opposite, their are lots of ways to progress to vision in a really short amount of time. So even if you have almost no time to progress you still can.

  • Goettel.4389Goettel.4389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Boogiepop Void.6473 said:
    Items with nearly identical value

    How do you define the value of vanity items? If the look is worth it to you, go for it. If not, don't.

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2019

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:
    Of course that majority of the people will defend Anet no matter what.

    It's not the majority. For the most part it's the same few people that defended sigil of nullification debacle and all othr similar cases in the past. And at least some of them i could name, if Anet went and did make adjustments, would immediately change their tune and start defending that change and explaining why what Anet did was necessary (like it has happened a few times in the past).
    Basically, status quo is sacred and the best thing possible. Until it changes, in which case the new status quo is the best thing possible.

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • Faaris.8013Faaris.8013 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Krizek.5672 said:
    As you can see I do. We are talking about optional things. If you do them, you should accept terms. If you dont like it (too much grind in your opinion), still an option. Problem in general is, that you want it ASAP. One week or two weeks to complete those 6 weapons isnt too much time, considering that we will wait a long time until new content.

    And I definitely dont tell you how to play the game since we are talking about optional things. I still stand up that, if you put your energy into complaining about bugs rather than things that are already set and where isnt any problem.

    Perhaps you are still confusing me with the OP? I don't have the opinion that it's too much grind, and I never complained, I only confirmed the OP's impression that there is a huge difference between the collection part of Thunderhead Peaks and the one for Istan. If you run the numbers, you have to agree that there is a difference in time consumption and effort. I even stated in my post that there is no reason to believe Anet wanted to make the effort and time required for the different maps equal. It's still a fact, no matter if you like it or not or if it's optional or not.

    I appears you have problems to distinguish between statements about differences of quests/collections and emotional connections to these statements. I can discover that X takes more effort and time than Y without being bothered by it or complain.

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    @Faaris.8013 said:
    So how does it come I'm already done with the 6 Dragonsblood weapons but don't even have the recipes to craft Astral weapons?

    You must've gotten extremely lucky with serpentite jewel drops if you've managed to craft 6 of those weapons in less than 5 days. That is, unless you circumvented the timegate on the dragonsblood weapons by collecting the daily resources beforehand.

    Maybe I was lucky, I even deleted some of those gem stones 2 weeks earlier to make room in my bank. I checked what they are for, decided I don't want any of these weapons and deleted them. Why doesn't a crafting mat go into the mat storage anyway. So I started with zero, did the metas onlyy once for thhe dungeon key, bought the rest from the TP. I got exactly 18 gems after 4 days, must have been from the hidden chests in the chambers.

    Also, I got lucky with the Astral weapons quest. Just when I was at day 5, they fixed the mirror event and I was able to proceed :)

  • MetalGirl.2370MetalGirl.2370 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2019

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    I don't see any reason to be outraged for ANet to put out more content than I have time to consume. On the contrary, I love that they do this because the way they do it I do get to choose the best out of a large selection of stuff to do.

    They didn't put in any content with the Vision. Making a collection that makes you repeat hearts over and over again is not content. Adding content means something new ... those hearts are added 3 weeks to 1 year ago. Trinket is not a content, content is new things to do...
    How in the world is something that's added 1 year ago, that I had to already repeat back then, a NEW content.
    You gotta interact with Masteries for collection II ... how is that NEW content ? I already picked up those masteries ... long long long time ago.
    You gotta do metas for 5 maps, well I already did those metas million times before ... how is that new ?

    STOP TELLING ME I'M NOT FORCED TO DO SOMETHING - I AM AN AP HUNTER SO YES, I HAVE TO DO IT
    ....AND GIVE HAIRSTYLES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Katastroff.1045Katastroff.1045 Member ✭✭✭

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    I don't see any reason to be outraged for ANet to put out more content than I have time to consume. On the contrary, I love that they do this because the way they do it I do get to choose the best out of a large selection of stuff to do.

    They didn't put in any content with the Vision. Making a collection that makes you repeat hearts over and over again is not content. Adding content means something new ... those hearts are added 3 weeks to 1 year ago. Trinket is not a content, content is new things to do...
    How in the world is something that's added 1 year ago, that I had to already repeat back then, a NEW content.

    If you dont want the trinket, just dont do the collection.

    Problem solved.

  • MetalGirl.2370MetalGirl.2370 Member ✭✭✭

    @Katastroff.1045 said:

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    I don't see any reason to be outraged for ANet to put out more content than I have time to consume. On the contrary, I love that they do this because the way they do it I do get to choose the best out of a large selection of stuff to do.

    They didn't put in any content with the Vision. Making a collection that makes you repeat hearts over and over again is not content. Adding content means something new ... those hearts are added 3 weeks to 1 year ago. Trinket is not a content, content is new things to do...
    How in the world is something that's added 1 year ago, that I had to already repeat back then, a NEW content.

    If you dont want the trinket, just dont do the collection.

    Problem solved.

    Ofc I want it, and unfortunately for me, I'm sacrificing last 2 brain cells I have. After that I'll book an appointment for therapy and start taking anti-depressants.
    And as AP hunter, I don't care for the item as much as I care for the points.

    STOP TELLING ME I'M NOT FORCED TO DO SOMETHING - I AM AN AP HUNTER SO YES, I HAVE TO DO IT
    ....AND GIVE HAIRSTYLES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Katastroff.1045Katastroff.1045 Member ✭✭✭

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:

    @Katastroff.1045 said:

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    I don't see any reason to be outraged for ANet to put out more content than I have time to consume. On the contrary, I love that they do this because the way they do it I do get to choose the best out of a large selection of stuff to do.

    They didn't put in any content with the Vision. Making a collection that makes you repeat hearts over and over again is not content. Adding content means something new ... those hearts are added 3 weeks to 1 year ago. Trinket is not a content, content is new things to do...
    How in the world is something that's added 1 year ago, that I had to already repeat back then, a NEW content.

    If you dont want the trinket, just dont do the collection.

    Problem solved.

    Ofc I want it, and unfortunately for me, I'm sacrificing last 2 brain cells I have. After that I'll book an appointment for therapy and start taking anti-depressants.
    And as AP hunter, I don't care for the item as much as I care for the points.

    Pretty advisable.

  • phs.6089phs.6089 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Well, I went to Istan today. No one does metas, people hang around on maps, waiting for brandstorm, then change the map. I don't blame them, meta takes time and efforts and give 20 kralks, hearts (on alts) and Impact sites are braindead and give more /per time. Quality gameplay of a Point and Click genre.

    "There is always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city."

  • Katastroff.1045Katastroff.1045 Member ✭✭✭

    @phs.6089 said:
    Well, I went to Istan today. No one does metas, people hang around on maps, waiting for brandstorm, then change the map. I don't blame them, meta takes time and efforts and give 20 kralks, hearts (on alts) and Impact sites are braindead and give more /per time. Quality gameplay of a Point and Click genre.

    I was there this morning and did GH and Palalawadan mostly with the Meteor farmer's club of Istan

  • Chay.7852Chay.7852 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2019

    Just one question about the astral weapons.. i have crafted 5, since i crafted one long ago (the staff - don't have it anymore though, I've salvaged it back then) to be able to craft the ascended one (Stellar). Now that one seems not to count toward the collection even though i have 6 astral weapons in my wardrobe.
    Bug or working-as-intended ?

    And to stay on topic, yeah,..the are out of cost balance and now, since i'm (almost) done ill probably stay away from Istan for a while.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Chay.7852 said:
    Just one question about the astral weapons.. i have crafted 5, since i crafted one long ago (the staff - don't have it anymore though, I've salvaged it back then) to be able to craft the ascended one (Stellar). Now that one seems not to count toward the collection even though i have 6 astral weapons in my wardrobe.
    Bug or working-as-intended ?

    And to stay on topic, yeah,..the are out of cost balance and now, since i'm (almost) done ill probably stay away from Istan for a while.

    Talk to the NPC?

  • Chay.7852Chay.7852 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Chay.7852 said:
    Just one question about the astral weapons.. i have crafted 5, since i crafted one long ago (the staff - don't have it anymore though, I've salvaged it back then) to be able to craft the ascended one (Stellar). Now that one seems not to count toward the collection even though i have 6 astral weapons in my wardrobe.
    Bug or working-as-intended ?

    And to stay on topic, yeah,..the are out of cost balance and now, since i'm (almost) done ill probably stay away from Istan for a while.

    Talk to the NPC?

    Yay! Got it now... Thank you. :)

  • phs.6089phs.6089 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Katastroff.1045 said:

    @phs.6089 said:
    Well, I went to Istan today. No one does metas, people hang around on maps, waiting for brandstorm, then change the map. I don't blame them, meta takes time and efforts and give 20 kralks, hearts (on alts) and Impact sites are braindead and give more /per time. Quality gameplay of a Point and Click genre.

    I was there this morning and did GH and Palalawadan mostly with the Meteor farmer's club of Istan

    Lucky you, tho wait, still 2 metas 50 kralk, rest you gonna need to heart and impact side. Literally spending 2-4 hours ( that is how most can afford to play) on the single map to get enough mats to craft a single weapon. Just like I said, text book example of quality gameplay...

    "There is always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city."

  • Katastroff.1045Katastroff.1045 Member ✭✭✭

    @phs.6089 said:

    @Katastroff.1045 said:

    @phs.6089 said:
    Well, I went to Istan today. No one does metas, people hang around on maps, waiting for brandstorm, then change the map. I don't blame them, meta takes time and efforts and give 20 kralks, hearts (on alts) and Impact sites are braindead and give more /per time. Quality gameplay of a Point and Click genre.

    I was there this morning and did GH and Palalawadan mostly with the Meteor farmer's club of Istan

    Lucky you, tho wait, still 2 metas 50 kralk, rest you gonna need to heart and impact side. Literally spending 2-4 hours ( that is how most can afford to play) on the single map to get enough mats to craft a single weapon. Just like I said, text book example of quality gameplay...

    I'm already done with that part of the collection, beside from being a bit short on gold, im almost done. :)

  • phs.6089phs.6089 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Katastroff.1045 said:

    @phs.6089 said:

    @Katastroff.1045 said:

    @phs.6089 said:
    Well, I went to Istan today. No one does metas, people hang around on maps, waiting for brandstorm, then change the map. I don't blame them, meta takes time and efforts and give 20 kralks, hearts (on alts) and Impact sites are braindead and give more /per time. Quality gameplay of a Point and Click genre.

    I was there this morning and did GH and Palalawadan mostly with the Meteor farmer's club of Istan

    Lucky you, tho wait, still 2 metas 50 kralk, rest you gonna need to heart and impact side. Literally spending 2-4 hours ( that is how most can afford to play) on the single map to get enough mats to craft a single weapon. Just like I said, text book example of quality gameplay...

    I'm already done with that part of the collection, beside from being a bit short on gold, im almost done. :)

    I didn't. I was hoping for something big and nice questing as I enjoyed Aurora collections. This is not Aurora ;c

    "There is always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city."

  • Katastroff.1045Katastroff.1045 Member ✭✭✭

    @phs.6089 said:

    @Katastroff.1045 said:

    @phs.6089 said:

    @Katastroff.1045 said:

    @phs.6089 said:
    Well, I went to Istan today. No one does metas, people hang around on maps, waiting for brandstorm, then change the map. I don't blame them, meta takes time and efforts and give 20 kralks, hearts (on alts) and Impact sites are braindead and give more /per time. Quality gameplay of a Point and Click genre.

    I was there this morning and did GH and Palalawadan mostly with the Meteor farmer's club of Istan

    Lucky you, tho wait, still 2 metas 50 kralk, rest you gonna need to heart and impact side. Literally spending 2-4 hours ( that is how most can afford to play) on the single map to get enough mats to craft a single weapon. Just like I said, text book example of quality gameplay...

    I'm already done with that part of the collection, beside from being a bit short on gold, im almost done. :)

    I didn't. I was hoping for something big and nice questing as I enjoyed Aurora collections. This is not Aurora ;c

    Totally with you on this, Aurora took me way more time, it also had more of that quest feeling to it. The gen 1 legendary are way more fun to craft and quest.

  • HtFde.3856HtFde.3856 Member ✭✭

    @Dami.5046 said:
    I actually need to farm some powered rose. around 1k of it. THE HORROR. I need to farm something. Quick better say i'm quitting/not logging in/ going to write 10 threads on the subject so it gets nerfed.
    Seriously what games have you lot been playing? Most I have played are leveling, farming to make gear/weapons and farming more to make my character even better.
    In aion I worked out with the time gates there in the arena, it would take me 100 days to get a weapon. 100 days!
    Imagine that in this game.
    A few daily time gates and everyone goes mad. A bit of farming and everyone goes mad.

    Problem is: You don't farm, you wait. If you don't, you'll miss the meteors. And now, a few months later, there ARE no multimap metor farming groups anymore. So you're down to 30 - 50 quartz per meteor. 3 Meteors an hour. So you need like 20 hours to get the quart. 20 hours in which you will play 3 minutes while you wait 17. And you call that a good design?

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    I actually need to farm some powered rose. around 1k of it. THE HORROR. I need to farm something. Quick better say i'm quitting/not logging in/ going to write 10 threads on the subject so it gets nerfed.
    Seriously what games have you lot been playing? Most I have played are leveling, farming to make gear/weapons and farming more to make my character even better.
    In aion I worked out with the time gates there in the arena, it would take me 100 days to get a weapon. 100 days!
    Imagine that in this game.
    A few daily time gates and everyone goes mad. A bit of farming and everyone goes mad.

    Problem is: You don't farm, you wait. If you don't, you'll miss the meteors. And now, a few months later, there ARE no multimap metor farming groups anymore. So you're down to 30 - 50 quartz per meteor. 3 Meteors an hour. So you need like 20 hours to get the quart. 20 hours in which you will play 3 minutes while you wait 17. And you call that a good design?

    There’s the TP. It’s always been quicker to farm gold in this game and then use it to buy what you want. Obtaining astral weapons doesn’t lock you out of any content and is completely optional. It’s no different than any other optional rewards as well.

  • Zuldari.3940Zuldari.3940 Member ✭✭✭

    @PervMonk.4891 said:
    god ppl will complain and whine about everything, i had 0 ore and Powdered quartz
    farmed all 4k powder and 3k ore in like 3 days.
    do you just want everything thrown at you for no effort?
    and your math is wrong you do get more powder than ores from meteors

    SMH

    Coo! Quaggan Love's You! ♥♥♥

  • HtFde.3856HtFde.3856 Member ✭✭

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    I actually need to farm some powered rose. around 1k of it. THE HORROR. I need to farm something. Quick better say i'm quitting/not logging in/ going to write 10 threads on the subject so it gets nerfed.
    Seriously what games have you lot been playing? Most I have played are leveling, farming to make gear/weapons and farming more to make my character even better.
    In aion I worked out with the time gates there in the arena, it would take me 100 days to get a weapon. 100 days!
    Imagine that in this game.
    A few daily time gates and everyone goes mad. A bit of farming and everyone goes mad.

    Problem is: You don't farm, you wait. If you don't, you'll miss the meteors. And now, a few months later, there ARE no multimap metor farming groups anymore. So you're down to 30 - 50 quartz per meteor. 3 Meteors an hour. So you need like 20 hours to get the quart. 20 hours in which you will play 3 minutes while you wait 17. And you call that a good design?

    There’s the TP. It’s always been quicker to farm gold in this game and then use it to buy what you want. Obtaining astral weapons doesn’t lock you out of any content and is completely optional. It’s no different than any other optional rewards as well.

    You're answering questions that were never asked.

    The issue I, and others, have is the disproportionate amount of time. Like you can do the Thunderhead Peak equivalent in 6 days with about a time investment of 10 minutes per day. So all in all you end up with about an hour to a maximum of two hours if you REALLY do the metas from the start. If you don't want to bother with those, you can pay 0.66 gold and get your plate and do the "puzzle" in about 3 - 5 minutes. One weapon done.

    Now, 500 powdered rose quarz come in at 12 gold per weapon. So we have 0.66 gold vs. 12 gold.

    So money wise one achievement costs 18x that of a similar one. And you can now feature in time to gather the quartz and kralk ore vs. getting the 3 pearls and enough masses to do the other. Dispoportionate.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    I actually need to farm some powered rose. around 1k of it. THE HORROR. I need to farm something. Quick better say i'm quitting/not logging in/ going to write 10 threads on the subject so it gets nerfed.
    Seriously what games have you lot been playing? Most I have played are leveling, farming to make gear/weapons and farming more to make my character even better.
    In aion I worked out with the time gates there in the arena, it would take me 100 days to get a weapon. 100 days!
    Imagine that in this game.
    A few daily time gates and everyone goes mad. A bit of farming and everyone goes mad.

    Problem is: You don't farm, you wait. If you don't, you'll miss the meteors. And now, a few months later, there ARE no multimap metor farming groups anymore. So you're down to 30 - 50 quartz per meteor. 3 Meteors an hour. So you need like 20 hours to get the quart. 20 hours in which you will play 3 minutes while you wait 17. And you call that a good design?

    There’s the TP. It’s always been quicker to farm gold in this game and then use it to buy what you want. Obtaining astral weapons doesn’t lock you out of any content and is completely optional. It’s no different than any other optional rewards as well.

    You're answering questions that were never asked.

    The issue I, and others, have is the disproportionate amount of time. Like you can do the Thunderhead Peak equivalent in 6 days with about a time investment of 10 minutes per day. So all in all you end up with about an hour to a maximum of two hours if you REALLY do the metas from the start. If you don't want to bother with those, you can pay 0.66 gold and get your plate and do the "puzzle" in about 3 - 5 minutes. One weapon done.

    Now, 500 powdered rose quarz come in at 12 gold per weapon. So we have 0.66 gold vs. 12 gold.

    So money wise one achievement costs 18x that of a similar one. And you can now feature in time to gather the quartz and kralk ore vs. getting the 3 pearls and enough masses to do the other. Dispoportionate.

    Why do they have to be proportionate each other?

  • HtFde.3856HtFde.3856 Member ✭✭

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    I actually need to farm some powered rose. around 1k of it. THE HORROR. I need to farm something. Quick better say i'm quitting/not logging in/ going to write 10 threads on the subject so it gets nerfed.
    Seriously what games have you lot been playing? Most I have played are leveling, farming to make gear/weapons and farming more to make my character even better.
    In aion I worked out with the time gates there in the arena, it would take me 100 days to get a weapon. 100 days!
    Imagine that in this game.
    A few daily time gates and everyone goes mad. A bit of farming and everyone goes mad.

    Problem is: You don't farm, you wait. If you don't, you'll miss the meteors. And now, a few months later, there ARE no multimap metor farming groups anymore. So you're down to 30 - 50 quartz per meteor. 3 Meteors an hour. So you need like 20 hours to get the quart. 20 hours in which you will play 3 minutes while you wait 17. And you call that a good design?

    There’s the TP. It’s always been quicker to farm gold in this game and then use it to buy what you want. Obtaining astral weapons doesn’t lock you out of any content and is completely optional. It’s no different than any other optional rewards as well.

    You're answering questions that were never asked.

    The issue I, and others, have is the disproportionate amount of time. Like you can do the Thunderhead Peak equivalent in 6 days with about a time investment of 10 minutes per day. So all in all you end up with about an hour to a maximum of two hours if you REALLY do the metas from the start. If you don't want to bother with those, you can pay 0.66 gold and get your plate and do the "puzzle" in about 3 - 5 minutes. One weapon done.

    Now, 500 powdered rose quarz come in at 12 gold per weapon. So we have 0.66 gold vs. 12 gold.

    So money wise one achievement costs 18x that of a similar one. And you can now feature in time to gather the quartz and kralk ore vs. getting the 3 pearls and enough masses to do the other. Dispoportionate.

    Why do they have to be proportionate each other?

    Why is it so hard for some people to admit that ANet once again messed up? But I see, when you go to chippy and they sell fish and fries for 3 pound and fish and country potatoes for 120 pound you don't even raise an eyebrow because, hey, why should they be proportionate, eh?

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    I actually need to farm some powered rose. around 1k of it. THE HORROR. I need to farm something. Quick better say i'm quitting/not logging in/ going to write 10 threads on the subject so it gets nerfed.
    Seriously what games have you lot been playing? Most I have played are leveling, farming to make gear/weapons and farming more to make my character even better.
    In aion I worked out with the time gates there in the arena, it would take me 100 days to get a weapon. 100 days!
    Imagine that in this game.
    A few daily time gates and everyone goes mad. A bit of farming and everyone goes mad.

    Problem is: You don't farm, you wait. If you don't, you'll miss the meteors. And now, a few months later, there ARE no multimap metor farming groups anymore. So you're down to 30 - 50 quartz per meteor. 3 Meteors an hour. So you need like 20 hours to get the quart. 20 hours in which you will play 3 minutes while you wait 17. And you call that a good design?

    There’s the TP. It’s always been quicker to farm gold in this game and then use it to buy what you want. Obtaining astral weapons doesn’t lock you out of any content and is completely optional. It’s no different than any other optional rewards as well.

    You're answering questions that were never asked.

    The issue I, and others, have is the disproportionate amount of time. Like you can do the Thunderhead Peak equivalent in 6 days with about a time investment of 10 minutes per day. So all in all you end up with about an hour to a maximum of two hours if you REALLY do the metas from the start. If you don't want to bother with those, you can pay 0.66 gold and get your plate and do the "puzzle" in about 3 - 5 minutes. One weapon done.

    Now, 500 powdered rose quarz come in at 12 gold per weapon. So we have 0.66 gold vs. 12 gold.

    So money wise one achievement costs 18x that of a similar one. And you can now feature in time to gather the quartz and kralk ore vs. getting the 3 pearls and enough masses to do the other. Dispoportionate.

    Why do they have to be proportionate each other?

    Why is it so hard for some people to admit that ANet once again messed up? But I see, when you go to chippy and they sell fish and fries for 3 pound and fish and country potatoes for 120 pound you don't even raise an eyebrow because, hey, why should they be proportionate, eh?

    Why is it so hard for some people to admit that not everything needs to be proportionate to everything else?

  • Goettel.4389Goettel.4389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Maybe they are. But they're just skins, no like, no grind.

  • Seera.5916Seera.5916 Member ✭✭✭

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Dami.5046 said:
    I actually need to farm some powered rose. around 1k of it. THE HORROR. I need to farm something. Quick better say i'm quitting/not logging in/ going to write 10 threads on the subject so it gets nerfed.
    Seriously what games have you lot been playing? Most I have played are leveling, farming to make gear/weapons and farming more to make my character even better.
    In aion I worked out with the time gates there in the arena, it would take me 100 days to get a weapon. 100 days!
    Imagine that in this game.
    A few daily time gates and everyone goes mad. A bit of farming and everyone goes mad.

    Problem is: You don't farm, you wait. If you don't, you'll miss the meteors. And now, a few months later, there ARE no multimap metor farming groups anymore. So you're down to 30 - 50 quartz per meteor. 3 Meteors an hour. So you need like 20 hours to get the quart. 20 hours in which you will play 3 minutes while you wait 17. And you call that a good design?

    There’s the TP. It’s always been quicker to farm gold in this game and then use it to buy what you want. Obtaining astral weapons doesn’t lock you out of any content and is completely optional. It’s no different than any other optional rewards as well.

    You're answering questions that were never asked.

    The issue I, and others, have is the disproportionate amount of time. Like you can do the Thunderhead Peak equivalent in 6 days with about a time investment of 10 minutes per day. So all in all you end up with about an hour to a maximum of two hours if you REALLY do the metas from the start. If you don't want to bother with those, you can pay 0.66 gold and get your plate and do the "puzzle" in about 3 - 5 minutes. One weapon done.

    Now, 500 powdered rose quarz come in at 12 gold per weapon. So we have 0.66 gold vs. 12 gold.

    So money wise one achievement costs 18x that of a similar one. And you can now feature in time to gather the quartz and kralk ore vs. getting the 3 pearls and enough masses to do the other. Dispoportionate.

    Why do they have to be proportionate each other?

    Why is it so hard for some people to admit that ANet once again messed up? But I see, when you go to chippy and they sell fish and fries for 3 pound and fish and country potatoes for 120 pound you don't even raise an eyebrow because, hey, why should they be proportionate, eh?

    Why is two completely different items being priced differently a mistake?

    Now if Aurora item 1-5 cost X but Aurora item 6 cost 5X and the Aurora items were the same category, then you would be onto something.

    But these are two different sets of weapons.

    As for fish & chips vs fish & country potatoes, assuming same fish, I'd be like I wonder just how good those country potatoes are (aka high demand) or what they use that is so rare (low supply). Or if it was a typo. And then order fish & chips. Not complain to the restaurant about it beyond asking if it was a typo or asking why (just so I know). Businesses don't have that kind of price discrepancy for no reason.

  • HtFde.3856HtFde.3856 Member ✭✭

    @Seera.5916 said:
    As for fish & chips vs fish & country potatoes, assuming same fish, I'd be like I wonder just how good those country potatoes are (aka high demand) or what they use that is so rare (low supply). Or if it was a typo. And then order fish & chips. Not complain to the restaurant about it beyond asking if it was a typo or asking why (just so I know). Businesses don't have that kind of price discrepancy for no reason.

    I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation what the special properties of the Astral Weapons is that sets them apart from the Dragonblood ones, so that the much, much higher price is justified. As you say - there should be a reason ... I can't find it. Help me, please. :)

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Seera.5916 said:
    As for fish & chips vs fish & country potatoes, assuming same fish, I'd be like I wonder just how good those country potatoes are (aka high demand) or what they use that is so rare (low supply). Or if it was a typo. And then order fish & chips. Not complain to the restaurant about it beyond asking if it was a typo or asking why (just so I know). Businesses don't have that kind of price discrepancy for no reason.

    I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation what the special properties of the Astral Weapons is that sets them apart from the Dragonblood ones, so that the much, much higher price is justified. As you say - there should be a reason ... I can't find it. Help me, please. :)

    Should be pretty easy. It is a cosmetic option. The higher price is because it is a different cosmetic option.

  • HtFde.3856HtFde.3856 Member ✭✭

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Seera.5916 said:
    As for fish & chips vs fish & country potatoes, assuming same fish, I'd be like I wonder just how good those country potatoes are (aka high demand) or what they use that is so rare (low supply). Or if it was a typo. And then order fish & chips. Not complain to the restaurant about it beyond asking if it was a typo or asking why (just so I know). Businesses don't have that kind of price discrepancy for no reason.

    I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation what the special properties of the Astral Weapons is that sets them apart from the Dragonblood ones, so that the much, much higher price is justified. As you say - there should be a reason ... I can't find it. Help me, please. :)

    Should be pretty easy. It is a cosmetic option. The higher price is because it is a different cosmetic option.

    Well, Sir - you see, them French Fries, they're narrow and oblong, that's why they're 2,50 per serving. The country wedges, though, see how lush they look, eh? That shape, and the peel is still on! I'm sure you can see why they're not sold below 100 ... Sir ... Sir ... where are you going?

  • Seera.5916Seera.5916 Member ✭✭✭

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Seera.5916 said:
    As for fish & chips vs fish & country potatoes, assuming same fish, I'd be like I wonder just how good those country potatoes are (aka high demand) or what they use that is so rare (low supply). Or if it was a typo. And then order fish & chips. Not complain to the restaurant about it beyond asking if it was a typo or asking why (just so I know). Businesses don't have that kind of price discrepancy for no reason.

    I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation what the special properties of the Astral Weapons is that sets them apart from the Dragonblood ones, so that the much, much higher price is justified. As you say - there should be a reason ... I can't find it. Help me, please. :)

    Could be any number of reasons they set things the way they are. I don't know which one it is because I'm not the one who set them but a couple of possible ones:

    1. To control time it takes for players to get the final product. Maybe Dragonblood was meant for short term and Astral was meant for a medium term.
    2. Some component part of that item is cheaper than ANet wants and ANet needs a sink - AKA something is at vendor price on the TP and there's a lot of it.
  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Seera.5916 said:
    As for fish & chips vs fish & country potatoes, assuming same fish, I'd be like I wonder just how good those country potatoes are (aka high demand) or what they use that is so rare (low supply). Or if it was a typo. And then order fish & chips. Not complain to the restaurant about it beyond asking if it was a typo or asking why (just so I know). Businesses don't have that kind of price discrepancy for no reason.

    I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation what the special properties of the Astral Weapons is that sets them apart from the Dragonblood ones, so that the much, much higher price is justified. As you say - there should be a reason ... I can't find it. Help me, please. :)

    Should be pretty easy. It is a cosmetic option. The higher price is because it is a different cosmetic option.

    Well, Sir - you see, them French Fries, they're narrow and oblong, that's why they're 2,50 per serving. The country wedges, though, see how lush they look, eh? That shape, and the peel is still on! I'm sure you can see why they're not sold below 100 ... Sir ... Sir ... where are you going?

    Country potatoes are pretty awesome. Sell really well at the restaurants around here. Usually more expensive than fries too. Then again they are not a cosmetic variant of fries. They cook differently.

    When pricing different cosmetic luxury items pricing is based on what the seller thinks the prospective buyer will pay. This is pre-economics 101. Like gradeschool stuff really. Apparently ANet thinks that one option is more desirable than the other here.

  • HtFde.3856HtFde.3856 Member ✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Seera.5916 said:
    As for fish & chips vs fish & country potatoes, assuming same fish, I'd be like I wonder just how good those country potatoes are (aka high demand) or what they use that is so rare (low supply). Or if it was a typo. And then order fish & chips. Not complain to the restaurant about it beyond asking if it was a typo or asking why (just so I know). Businesses don't have that kind of price discrepancy for no reason.

    I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation what the special properties of the Astral Weapons is that sets them apart from the Dragonblood ones, so that the much, much higher price is justified. As you say - there should be a reason ... I can't find it. Help me, please. :)

    Should be pretty easy. It is a cosmetic option. The higher price is because it is a different cosmetic option.

    Well, Sir - you see, them French Fries, they're narrow and oblong, that's why they're 2,50 per serving. The country wedges, though, see how lush they look, eh? That shape, and the peel is still on! I'm sure you can see why they're not sold below 100 ... Sir ... Sir ... where are you going?

    Country potatoes are pretty awesome. Sell really well at the restaurants around here. Usually more expensive than fries too. Then again they are not a cosmetic variant of fries. They cook differently.

    When pricing different cosmetic luxury items pricing is based on what the seller thinks the prospective buyer will pay. This is pre-economics 101. Like gradeschool stuff really. Apparently ANet thinks that one option is more desirable than the other here.

    Final comment from me: I do not think that ANet "thought" anything here but had another meltdown they were too lazy to fix. Like the debacle with the Sigil of Nullification and the whole cloth supply situation through the first 2+ years where people had to mystic forge karma bought armor to get a salvageable item because the game just did not supply the amount of lower tier needed for ascended armor and the karma armor was not directly salvageable. Poor design, lousy fixing times. No other "reason" but something they messed up. They do great stuff - but often they make something broken and take their sweet time to fix it, if they fix it at all. And in this occasion I am sure they had a different drop quota back then, adjusted that when they started to nerf Istan but never came around to adjusting the requirement for the Astral weapons. I recall swimming in quartz AND Kralk when Istan was fresh.

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2019

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Seera.5916 said:
    As for fish & chips vs fish & country potatoes, assuming same fish, I'd be like I wonder just how good those country potatoes are (aka high demand) or what they use that is so rare (low supply). Or if it was a typo. And then order fish & chips. Not complain to the restaurant about it beyond asking if it was a typo or asking why (just so I know). Businesses don't have that kind of price discrepancy for no reason.

    I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation what the special properties of the Astral Weapons is that sets them apart from the Dragonblood ones, so that the much, much higher price is justified. As you say - there should be a reason ... I can't find it. Help me, please. :)

    Should be pretty easy. It is a cosmetic option. The higher price is because it is a different cosmetic option.

    Well, Sir - you see, them French Fries, they're narrow and oblong, that's why they're 2,50 per serving. The country wedges, though, see how lush they look, eh? That shape, and the peel is still on! I'm sure you can see why they're not sold below 100 ... Sir ... Sir ... where are you going?

    Country potatoes are pretty awesome. Sell really well at the restaurants around here. Usually more expensive than fries too. Then again they are not a cosmetic variant of fries. They cook differently.

    When pricing different cosmetic luxury items pricing is based on what the seller thinks the prospective buyer will pay. This is pre-economics 101. Like gradeschool stuff really. Apparently ANet thinks that one option is more desirable than the other here.

    Final comment from me: I do not think that ANet "thought" anything here but had another meltdown they were too lazy to fix. Like the debacle with the Sigil of Nullification and the whole cloth supply situation through the first 2+ years where people had to mystic forge karma bought armor to get a salvageable item because the game just did not supply the amount of lower tier needed for ascended armor and the karma armor was not directly salvageable. Poor design, lousy fixing times. No other "reason" but something they messed up. They do great stuff - but often they make something broken and take their sweet time to fix it, if they fix it at all. And in this occasion I am sure they had a different drop quota back then, adjusted that when they started to nerf Istan but never came around to adjusting the requirement for the Astral weapons. I recall swimming in quartz AND Kralk when Istan was fresh.

    I am sure that you are right. They are just lazy. They sit around avoiding work all day while drinking soy milk lattes and eating country potatoes. Luckily the software gnomes come in every night to do all of the work.

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Seera.5916 said:
    As for fish & chips vs fish & country potatoes, assuming same fish, I'd be like I wonder just how good those country potatoes are (aka high demand) or what they use that is so rare (low supply). Or if it was a typo. And then order fish & chips. Not complain to the restaurant about it beyond asking if it was a typo or asking why (just so I know). Businesses don't have that kind of price discrepancy for no reason.

    I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation what the special properties of the Astral Weapons is that sets them apart from the Dragonblood ones, so that the much, much higher price is justified. As you say - there should be a reason ... I can't find it. Help me, please. :)

    Should be pretty easy. It is a cosmetic option. The higher price is because it is a different cosmetic option.

    Well, Sir - you see, them French Fries, they're narrow and oblong, that's why they're 2,50 per serving. The country wedges, though, see how lush they look, eh? That shape, and the peel is still on! I'm sure you can see why they're not sold below 100 ... Sir ... Sir ... where are you going?

    Country potatoes are pretty awesome. Sell really well at the restaurants around here. Usually more expensive than fries too. Then again they are not a cosmetic variant of fries. They cook differently.

    When pricing different cosmetic luxury items pricing is based on what the seller thinks the prospective buyer will pay. This is pre-economics 101. Like gradeschool stuff really. Apparently ANet thinks that one option is more desirable than the other here.

    Final comment from me: I do not think that ANet "thought" anything here but had another meltdown they were too lazy to fix. Like the debacle with the Sigil of Nullification and the whole cloth supply situation through the first 2+ years where people had to mystic forge karma bought armor to get a salvageable item because the game just did not supply the amount of lower tier needed for ascended armor and the karma armor was not directly salvageable. Poor design, lousy fixing times. No other "reason" but something they messed up. They do great stuff - but often they make something broken and take their sweet time to fix it, if they fix it at all. And in this occasion I am sure they had a different drop quota back then, adjusted that when they started to nerf Istan but never came around to adjusting the requirement for the Astral weapons. I recall swimming in quartz AND Kralk when Istan was fresh.

    I am sure that you are right. They are just lazy. They sit around avoiding work all day while drinking soy milk lattes and eating country potatoes. Luckily the software gnomes come in every night to do all of the work.

    to be honest, despite the snark alot of you in the thread gave the OP, i do agree with him at least in part(his wording -is- awful here). They did nerf the drop rate of the mats, and didnt change anything at all in regards to how much they need. This isnt the first time theyve made a mistake or forgotten about elements in their own game. With season 5 starting soon i feel these zones are going to be even emptier than they already are, and istan at least when im able to play is a barren wasteland.

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  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dante.1763 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @HtFde.3856 said:

    @Seera.5916 said:
    As for fish & chips vs fish & country potatoes, assuming same fish, I'd be like I wonder just how good those country potatoes are (aka high demand) or what they use that is so rare (low supply). Or if it was a typo. And then order fish & chips. Not complain to the restaurant about it beyond asking if it was a typo or asking why (just so I know). Businesses don't have that kind of price discrepancy for no reason.

    I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation what the special properties of the Astral Weapons is that sets them apart from the Dragonblood ones, so that the much, much higher price is justified. As you say - there should be a reason ... I can't find it. Help me, please. :)

    Should be pretty easy. It is a cosmetic option. The higher price is because it is a different cosmetic option.

    Well, Sir - you see, them French Fries, they're narrow and oblong, that's why they're 2,50 per serving. The country wedges, though, see how lush they look, eh? That shape, and the peel is still on! I'm sure you can see why they're not sold below 100 ... Sir ... Sir ... where are you going?

    Country potatoes are pretty awesome. Sell really well at the restaurants around here. Usually more expensive than fries too. Then again they are not a cosmetic variant of fries. They cook differently.

    When pricing different cosmetic luxury items pricing is based on what the seller thinks the prospective buyer will pay. This is pre-economics 101. Like gradeschool stuff really. Apparently ANet thinks that one option is more desirable than the other here.

    Final comment from me: I do not think that ANet "thought" anything here but had another meltdown they were too lazy to fix. Like the debacle with the Sigil of Nullification and the whole cloth supply situation through the first 2+ years where people had to mystic forge karma bought armor to get a salvageable item because the game just did not supply the amount of lower tier needed for ascended armor and the karma armor was not directly salvageable. Poor design, lousy fixing times. No other "reason" but something they messed up. They do great stuff - but often they make something broken and take their sweet time to fix it, if they fix it at all. And in this occasion I am sure they had a different drop quota back then, adjusted that when they started to nerf Istan but never came around to adjusting the requirement for the Astral weapons. I recall swimming in quartz AND Kralk when Istan was fresh.

    I am sure that you are right. They are just lazy. They sit around avoiding work all day while drinking soy milk lattes and eating country potatoes. Luckily the software gnomes come in every night to do all of the work.

    to be honest, despite the snark alot of you in the thread gave the OP, i do agree with him at least in part(his wording -is- awful here). They did nerf the drop rate of the mats, and didnt change anything at all in regards to how much they need. This isnt the first time theyve made a mistake or forgotten about elements in their own game. With season 5 starting soon i feel these zones are going to be even emptier than they already are, and istan at least when im able to play is a barren wasteland.

    Any time a merchant sets pricing based on perceived desirability there is a very good chance that errors will be made. Pricing in situations such as this is as much an art as a science. If the number of people pursuing the items does not meet company expectations, I hope ANet is willing to admit their error and make corrections.

  • Brother.1504Brother.1504 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2019

    Some collections you can’t think about in a logical way. If you want the end shiny thing then just do it. Love it, hate it, but do it.

  • if some1 can't afford to play 2 hrs a day then why bother playing at all

    great point
    as someone who can only get 1-2 hours a day at most, trying to get the cool stuff in this game has become basically a chore
    I should just give up the game all together. Who's with me?

    let's be honest here, there's clearly a retention problem in this game. Setting the barriers up too high means a lot of people are just going to hard pass on the content
    So in the end you're making content just for the people who do have 3-4 hours to play every day. At this point you're basically excluding everyone else

    people with less time will go for story content because it's the only thing that will keep them invested and that they can do and people who play more will clear all the content and move on anyways...

    seriously, this game makes it so frustrating to keep playing it

  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭

    im near 2k Kralk Ore via Pvp rewards. plus: u get lots of gold on season. i started the season with 2 gold, im near 150 now.

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  • its even more annoying when you've collected most of the stellar (ascended) weapons, which don't count, so you've gotta farm the same 'content' again...

  • Acheron.4731Acheron.4731 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 9, 2019

    dont torture yourself for pixels. Will you really care in a few years?

    Dilly Dilly

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ShadowHand.7063 said:

    if some1 can't afford to play 2 hrs a day then why bother playing at all

    great point
    as someone who can only get 1-2 hours a day at most, trying to get the cool stuff in this game has become basically a chore
    I should just give up the game all together. Who's with me?

    let's be honest here, there's clearly a retention problem in this game. Setting the barriers up too high means a lot of people are just going to hard pass on the content
    So in the end you're making content just for the people who do have 3-4 hours to play every day. At this point you're basically excluding everyone else

    people with less time will go for story content because it's the only thing that will keep them invested and that they can do and people who play more will clear all the content and move on anyways...

    seriously, this game makes it so frustrating to keep playing it

    And if the rewards were made to be easily obtainable by those with 1-2 hours a day then everyone else would quickly have nothing else to strive for. Fortunately there are existing rewards for those players.

  • Looks like the currency creep is real.. and are these just skins? Crazy...

  • ProtoGunner.4953ProtoGunner.4953 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Why do you need them anyway? They look kitten and aren't even ascended.

  • Rasimir.6239Rasimir.6239 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ProtoGunner.4953 said:
    Why do you need them anyway? They look kitten and aren't even ascended.

    Unlocking (any) six of the astral skins is part of the precursor collection for the legendary trinket Vision.

  • ProtoGunner.4953ProtoGunner.4953 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    @ProtoGunner.4953 said:
    Why do you need them anyway? They look kitten and aren't even ascended.

    Unlocking (any) six of the astral skins is part of the precursor collection for the legendary trinket Vision.

    Ah kitten, that's what a friend meant in-game... I have to do that as well. Yeah it sucks then.

  • LucianDK.8615LucianDK.8615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 9, 2019

    @ProtoGunner.4953 said:

    @Rasimir.6239 said:

    @ProtoGunner.4953 said:
    Why do you need them anyway? They look kitten and aren't even ascended.

    Unlocking (any) six of the astral skins is part of the precursor collection for the legendary trinket Vision.

    Ah kitten, that's what a friend meant in-game... I have to do that as well. Yeah it sucks then.

    Well its just being consistent with the other crafting tasks for Vision, needing tier1, such as the dragonsblood weapons or the elegy armor and i think that mist shard armor from dragonfall as well.

  • crepuscular.9047crepuscular.9047 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2019

    As someone who just finished crafting both Astral and Stellar without TP the weekend before last week, it does take some effort, more than the entire Dragonblood set, I would say only slightly more, especially now, not as bad a before since the rose quartz drop increase



    here were some questions a guy asked me last weekend when I was back at Istan replenishing my material storage with kralk ore and powders


    Q. How long did it took?

    A. A bit over a month to gather all the materials.


    Q. How much materials do you gather a day?

    A. Depends whether it's a weekday or weekend, but I just do it with a single character.

    • On weekdays, I just collect all 35 Sunspear Caches and 3 hearts, and gather around 4-5 meteorites.

    • On weekends I would gather meteorites until hitting the daily cap (because there are more met mining players around, so more potential for all mets to be fully marked), which is around 30 meteorites (per account), around 8 hours in total; If every meteorite site is fully marked, and the big surface meteorites are done properly, I can craft enough kralk ingot to make 5-7 weapons over the weekend; 1200-1600 kralk ore and rose Quartz powder per day (grinded up everything).


    Q. How did you manage to gather so much?

    A. Make sure you purchase Skill 3 Extraction Beam, and Skill 5 Impact Site Marker from Scholar Fatima; you can ignore Skill 4, it's useless.

    • Skill 3 will passively reduces your chance to get dragonite ores, and its active use is on the big surface meteorites, the longer players spams Skill 3 on it before it gets destroyed, the better the rewards you get; common strategy is keep spamming 3 until there is 30 seconds left, then destroyed the meteorite. (there will be trolls who would run in and destroy it immediately, had them added to my blacklist)

    • Skill 5 is the most critical one, for 1 it will display location of the impact site on mini map to other players, and 2, it decreases the chance to get dragonite ore and it increases the chance to get Rose Quartz and Powder
      a Fully marked impact site is pretty much 100% you will not get any dragonite ore; because big surface meteorite reward works differently so you will still get dragonite ores from it.

    • The only exception when you would start mining without a fully marked site
      Is when there is less than 1min 30sec left, 5min countdown from the time when Scholar Fatima announces it
      If you try to wait it out, you may not have time to gather all the brandstones from the meteorite.


    Q. Can this process be done faster?

    A. Yes, if you park multiple toons across the sites.
    But do be wary, each site only lasts 5min, and you want to start mining after the site is fully marked to yield maximum rewards.
    If it took a long time for the site to be fully marked, or your load time is just slow, then you may not have enough time to switch toon to full mine a second time.


    Q. This entire process sounds boring
    A. Yeah... it is... but because there is a minimum 15 minutes between each meteorite (count from the time when Scholar Fatima announces it), you have around 10min down time after you have finished mining a site, during this time I would go open up the Sunspear Caches, do hearts, dailies, or switch to another toon to do other stuffs.


    Hope this helps for others out there also aiming for getting Astral and Stellar sets done

    End note: I had updated the wiki page with some additional details.
    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Brandstone_Multitool

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  • @Ayrilana.1396 said:
    And if the rewards were made to be easily obtainable by those with 1-2 hours a day then everyone else would quickly have nothing else to strive for. Fortunately there are existing rewards for those players.

    woosh?
    also, not all rewards. I'm not going to be finishing all the astral, stellar and dragonblood weapons, 100% sure.
    But maybe vision ought to be a little more accessible, don't you think? it's not like making the legi is cheap

    the kralk ore doesnt even bother me that much, although I think needing to do 2 rewards tracks per weapon is a bit much, just in terms of kralketite. But the rose quartz is going to be a nightmare...
    you need 500/weapon and at current price that's almost 20g per weapon...
    which at 6 weapons is about twice as much gold as I have right now...

    plus just spent around 1.5h in istan... managed to farm 1 meteor and only because I waited it out in the astralarium.
    managed to get there too late for a couple more. Not fun

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