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Do you think we will get new elite specializations in Living World Season 5?

So far, we know next to nothing about Season 5. There were vague plans before the layoffs to have "expansion-like" content on the living world, but we have no idea if that will remain, or if the Season 5 will follow the idea of not adding a new map per release, or anything else really.

One kind of popular content that could be classified as "expansion-like" would be new specializatons. I have seen a few people wondering if the recent changes to skill types would be a sign of ArenaNet playing with ideas for new specializations (like the command skills for rangers and the preparation skills for thieves).

Do you think we will get new elite specializations in the next season of the Living World?

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Do you think we will get new elite specializations in Living World Season 5? 113 votes

Yes
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No
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  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    No way. Especs are the main selling points of expacs..

  • Healix.5819Healix.5819 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If there's going to be one, it'll be obvious in the first episode, since it will need to have hero challenges. The elite itself however wouldn't be available until halfway through the season, to give everyone enough points. Expect it to be an underwater one however.

  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    I doubt they would want to with the balance mess they have at this moment. I doubt they have any even conceptually worth noting either...

  • Nemo.8759Nemo.8759 Member ✭✭
    No

    "expansion-like" content = chief 500

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2019
    No

    Kind of black white poll, but i think we won't until they advertise yes.
    I think, given some bigger content patches in s4, i believe we'll get some nice masteries or abilities, but don't expect too much

    I would rather like big maps with more extensive meta-events.
    Like, 1 hour map-meta event, 2 hours local events (short meta's).
    That way you have 7 cycles (24/3) with 2 hours of events that local pugs can clear, followed by a big meta event that requires map wide organisation

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  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2019

    It's not out of question, but I find it highly unlikely for now.

    Issue is they have to be rolled out in batches through several releases, which would leave people mad for having to wait long & setting some weird expectations.

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  • DonArkanio.6419DonArkanio.6419 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    I think ANet might be up to something new. E-Spec system causes a lot of problems and it's very visible since the introduction of PoFs second set E-Specs. It is a great concept and I really like exploring new specializations but I think their overall design doesn't help balancing the game.

    We might see something completely different.

    All we can hope for is that we can get something! And I'm optimistic about it. We see ANet experimenting with Core Swap, maybe in the near future we will get another event that uses class mechanics. I feel like they're testing the ground and that is great.

  • derd.6413derd.6413 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No

    the main issue i see with the idea is that releasing 9 especs at once is probably too much for a regular update and releasing them one at a time will cause too much lash back from everybody who didn't get their espec

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  • Raknar.4735Raknar.4735 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    I would like to get them during season 5, but I doubt it will happen.

  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No

    I would hope not. Really hope we get no more period. They can't balance what we have now.

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

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  • Adrianna.3092Adrianna.3092 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2019
    No

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:
    I would hope not. Really hope we get no more period. They can't balance what we have now.

    there will probably be at least 1 more set of elite specs for the canthan expansion (and we know its going to happen eventually as we do eventually have to go to cantha to confront the deep sea elder dragon) i imagine that will then be the final E-spec of all the classes.

    I just want an elite spec for mesmer that actually changes shatters into something else... i love mesmer but i despise shatters and we still haven't gotten an elite spec that changes our class mechanic.

  • bluberblasen.9684bluberblasen.9684 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    i hope not.
    i wish we can remove the elite spec and go back to the balance from march 2013 :)
    ah and remove rev too - he is garbage for pvp / wvw.
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  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No

    @Adrianna.3092 said:

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:
    I would hope not. Really hope we get no more period. They can't balance what we have now.

    there will probably be at least 1 more set of elite specs for the canthan expansion (and we know its going to happen eventually as we do eventually have to go to cantha to confront the deep sea elder dragon) i imagine that will then be the final E-spec of all the classes.

    I just want an elite spec for mesmer that actually changes shatters into something else... i love mesmer but i despise shatters and we still haven't gotten an elite spec that changes our class mechanic.

    If they do Cantha I (and quite a few guildmates) are done. Kitten sick of retreading the same kitten ground.

    Give us NEW areas. There is some 80% of the planet never even seen before.

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

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  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Healix.5819 said:
    If there's going to be one, it'll be obvious in the first episode, since it will need to have hero challenges. The elite itself however wouldn't be available until halfway through the season, to give everyone enough points. Expect it to be an underwater one however.

    We wouldnt need any hero challenges, as things are rn there are enough hero cjalle ges in the game for at least one more spec.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 13, 2019

    I cant see them doing elite specs unless they drop them all in one episode, it will suck majorly if you ave to w8 multiple episodes to get a spec for your class.

  • Aaralyna.3104Aaralyna.3104 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    We will not see new e-specs. They already don't know what their current classes are supposed to be and balancing everything without ruining fundamental core builds and playstyles seems to be beyond their league as well. As for the "expansion like features". They did this already in living world season 4 where they continued adding 2 mounts, craftable gear sets via big collections and such. The only difference with an expansion is that you get content (maps/achievements/story) worth for about a month of play if you rush in an expansion vs 1 week of play on a new living world map. I am not even sure they would add new especs if they decide to make a new expansion (if they do). Legendary weapons also were expansion content but they already said they finished with those if not mistaking. As for the Cantha comment I saw earlier. I have not played gw1 but given Cantha is an Asian styled place I would love to see it in gw2 (I simply like Asian influences and gears like kimono's and the likes).

  • JTGuevara.9018JTGuevara.9018 Member ✭✭✭

    I certainly hope not. Elite specs have RUINED pvp. They can't even balance jack with these overpowered spam-heavy specs.

  • Healix.5819Healix.5819 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zealex.9410 said:
    We wouldnt need any hero challenges, as things are rn there are enough hero cjalle ges in the game for at least one more spec.

    They wouldn't do that. They would want there to be enough points within the season itself to allow everyone to obtain it by the time it was released, otherwise you run into the problem of the majority, which doesn't have 100% completion, either being forced into it, or required to wait out the remaining episodes for enough points. Remember, HoT already made that mistake, which was originally going to be even worse by additionally requiring 40% of core.

    If they were actually going to do an underwater elite, it would probably be half the cost and introduced in the 2nd or 3rd episode, at which point the story would go underwater.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Healix.5819 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:
    We wouldnt need any hero challenges, as things are rn there are enough hero cjalle ges in the game for at least one more spec.

    They wouldn't do that. They would want there to be enough points within the season itself to allow everyone to obtain it by the time it was released, otherwise you run into the problem of the majority, which doesn't have 100% completion, either being forced into it, or required to wait out the remaining episodes for enough points. Remember, HoT already made that mistake, which was originally going to be even worse by additionally requiring 40% of core.

    Why? They clearly were fine with ppl not obtaining stuff on release when it comes to the skyscale or the leggie trinkets, so why would it suddenly be an issue if you had to get the rest of the available hps to unlock a spec?

    If they were actually going to do an underwater elite, it would probably be half the cost and introduced in the 2nd or 3rd episode, at which point the story would go underwater.

    Underwater specs would be a waste at this point since underwater is only a very small part of the playable game with its own rules which ppl dont really prefer over land specs.

  • Game of Bones.8975Game of Bones.8975 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes

    Sorry, didn't read the question fully.

    Expansions have been where we pick up new elite professions.

    We may see a new mount, though.

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  • Konig Des Todes.2086Konig Des Todes.2086 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No

    I'm very doubtful they will.

    If they do, I hope it's a "core elite specialization" though, rather than a second "PoF elite specialization".

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  • ScyeRynn.4218ScyeRynn.4218 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    Nope. Just the same, rushed, hollow content we usually get for LW episodes that are meant to space out time between the real content of expansions. Unfortunately, we have at least another year or more before the 3rd expansion. Assuming Anet doesn't have yet another internal issue that threatens to get the entire game and series shut down.

  • No

    I hope not, spec changes and rebalancing drives me nuts. I do not enjoy having to go through all 10 characters and re-figure out a new build for them every time. And I am thoroughly sick of the PvE nerfs Necros and Eles keep getting. Leave PvE balance alone, they don't have to be balanced. PvE should be fun.

  • Asum.4960Asum.4960 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    I'm fairly certain at this point that with "expansion like content" they meant the production value and scope of the story points, as well as mount additions like the Beetle and Skyscale.

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  • Wolfey.3407Wolfey.3407 Member ✭✭
    No

    Sadly no,
    It's one of only maybe two things that motivate people to buy an expansion so far...

    I would love for them to do so and make us all look like fools, but ... there's no money in it for them so i don't seem them doing it.

  • AlexxxDelta.1806AlexxxDelta.1806 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    If they did that, it would be a big step towards convincing people that you can have expansion-like Living Story.

    Sadly I don't see it happening. Elite specs need a lot of work to create and maintain/balance, and the only reason they bothered with all that, is using the powercreep as an expansion selling point.

  • Lonami.2987Lonami.2987 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    @Erasculio.2914 said:
    So far, we know next to nothing about Season 5. There were vague plans before the layoffs to have "expansion-like" content on the living world, but we have no idea if that will remain, or if the Season 5 will follow the idea of not adding a new map per release, or anything else really.

    One kind of popular content that could be classified as "expansion-like" would be new specializatons. I have seen a few people wondering if the recent changes to skill types would be a sign of ArenaNet playing with ideas for new specializations (like the command skills for rangers and the preparation skills for thieves).

    Do you think we will get new elite specializations in the next season of the Living World?

    New elite specializations? No.

    But I hope we get other means of profession progression. New weapons, for example, would be considered "expansion content", but they would work pretty well if they were released during a Living World season.

    Core professions need some love, and this would be a great opportunity for that. We can implement new weapon types, plus enable some classic weapons for professions who can't use them yet. Elite specializations shouldn't be the only updates we get, core deserves some attention too. There are many classic weapons which would feel terrible if added through elite specializations, like thief off-hand sword, mesmer main-hand pistol, ranger off-hand sword, etc. They should be added through updates to core elite specs instead.

    Then of course, new weapon types would be awesome. Let some professions use them, and save some for elite specs too. Here are some ideas for new weapon types.

  • Arrow.9031Arrow.9031 Member ✭✭
    No

    While i would like to see a new elite specialization set, i think season 5 will likely just be another standard set of story releases. Hopefully that will then build up to another large expansion but for now i wouldn't expect anything out of the ordinary.

  • Edelweiss.4261Edelweiss.4261 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    We should, but we won't. =(

  • No

    I hope not, they cant even properly balance the current ones, it's going to be an even bigger mess if they add more, first we have to go through the powercreep bs again because that's gw2 marketing for ya, then we get the complaints about how unfair a class is and how another class always gets the short end... Just no, find another way to diversify classes. Or just leave it and focus on more content.

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No

    Absolutely not. Anet want money so they will use this as sale for an expansion.

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No

    @Lonami.2987 said:

    @Erasculio.2914 said:
    So far, we know next to nothing about Season 5. There were vague plans before the layoffs to have "expansion-like" content on the living world, but we have no idea if that will remain, or if the Season 5 will follow the idea of not adding a new map per release, or anything else really.

    One kind of popular content that could be classified as "expansion-like" would be new specializatons. I have seen a few people wondering if the recent changes to skill types would be a sign of ArenaNet playing with ideas for new specializations (like the command skills for rangers and the preparation skills for thieves).

    Do you think we will get new elite specializations in the next season of the Living World?

    New elite specializations? No.

    But I hope we get other means of profession progression. New weapons, for example, would be considered "expansion content", but they would work pretty well if they were released during a Living World season.

    Core professions need some love, and this would be a great opportunity for that. We can implement new weapon types, plus enable some classic weapons for professions who can't use them yet. Elite specializations shouldn't be the only updates we get, core deserves some attention too. There are many classic weapons which would feel terrible if added through elite specializations, like thief off-hand sword, mesmer main-hand pistol, ranger off-hand sword, etc. They should be added through updates to core elite specs instead.

    Then of course, new weapon types would be awesome. Let some professions use them, and save some for elite specs too. Here are some ideas for new weapon types.

    I honestly wouldn't mind 1 or 2 new skills for each class. They did that a long time ago before HoT. I can rock with that. Not sure how that would work for Revenant though....

  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No

    Would be awesome but no. Not until expansion 3. Maybe if we’re lucky we’ll get 2 for waiting so long, or 2 weapons at least

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  • Naxos.2503Naxos.2503 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    I wish, but I honestly doubt it. At best we may get weapons availability per classes, but I dont expect them to develop full traitline and utility skills as well as profession mechanics for Living World. Too much work, not enough time and as mentionned before, Elite specs are Expac's things. Which is why I wish they'd tell us if one is in the work at all, even if it's not at all progressed far. It's the silence about it that's killing me.

  • Ultramex.1506Ultramex.1506 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    E-spec need to be expansion only cause it need a lot of contents to draw people in.

  • ZeftheWicked.3076ZeftheWicked.3076 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes

    Living Story season is 2 years, roughly. If they do that without any new impactful content (read: elite specs or something of equal value), they'll be walking on very thin ice..

  • Ygdrasill.9135Ygdrasill.9135 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    I doubt it. They are still working to balance what they already have. They've also only done them for full expansions and I'm not expecting another of those anytime soon.

  • Westenev.5289Westenev.5289 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2019
    Yes

    I do believe Anet did say they were working on "expansion-like content" for s5. That being said, we do seem to be getting a lot of reworks and new skills in accordance to some sort of master plan, so maybe we won't get a conventional elite spec but rather class revamps?

  • Dami.5046Dami.5046 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No

    Nope. Things have happened since them saying that season 5 will have xpac like content. I like to think they have more up their sleeve to drive the game forward other than chairs, gathering tools and gliders.

  • Adamixos.6785Adamixos.6785 Member ✭✭
    edited July 15, 2019

    It doesn't matter whether I think they will release new E-specs or not. With a gazillion glaring issues in the hot mess that is the current balance, I pray to every benevolent god ever worshipped that they won't release new ones for the foreseeable future. And I am an atheist.

  • Mikali.9651Mikali.9651 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    No, no more new e-specs, balance is terribly complicated to do well in this game.
    New weapons? yes, weapons themselves do not seem like a problem, we rarely get a weapon balance, it is more about traits.

    I would rather if they focus on fixing broken traits, continue with their current balance philosophy, but doing much better work with it - if needed, further redesign traits and skills if they just can't be balanced well.

    Would be cool if they could do something with the core swap feature they tried and were testing in WvW. It does complicate balance, but if done well, could be very interesting. But it needs a serious and professional approach.

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No

    No. If they were planning for another set of elite specs, they wouldn't be trying to make core specs stand on equal ground with especs (or at least claiming the try to do that). If they were planning of truly giving us an expac worth of features and content, they would have given us an expac.
    People read too much in their announcement that they will be able to deliver more stuff with LS, and tend not to notice, that at the same time Anet opened for themselves a possibility of giving less.

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  • FrizzFreston.5290FrizzFreston.5290 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes

    One can be hopeful, definitely would like to see some more. Not holding my breath though.

  • maddoctor.2738maddoctor.2738 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If they indeed plan on giving us "expansion-like" features through the living world then elite specs should be on the list.
    Now if it was just PR talk then we won't. As simple as that.

  • neoteo.3975neoteo.3975 Member ✭✭
    Yes

    Sure, why not.

  • Klypto.1703Klypto.1703 Member ✭✭✭
    No

    Being that business model they have established since the release of HoT and then Pof the answer would be no. Especially since the announcements of such a release of an expansion come out a year or close to a year before they even release it they would have done it a long time ago. The pacing is about once every four or so months so that would mean they would be coming out with a expansion announcement and releasing it during the early fall which is totally out of their normal cadence. Plus along with the current balance issues we won't see anymore elite specs for a long long time.

    Although there are some counter points to what I have mentioned too even if you take in consideration the pacing you can also say after HoT the access to season 3 maps was tied into that expansion as well as PoF and season four. Plus the fact that legendary weapons they both for the most part in generation two started and ended during those. So will there be a generation three and if so what expansion would it fall under? As well if there is there is no expansion this would be the first living story season to come and go under the same expansion including more than one season.

    So with player in game issues in the mix of this turning point as well as it being one for the story too I've noticed there are players like myself that want to see cantha especially being that the backstory of that region gives the impression of a dramatic turn of events in the last 250 years there. Some are not fans of the original game and that is their choice but you also have to admit without the first game this game would not be as popular as it stands right now without it. So most likely if it were me planning it I would try to keep those players who want something new and not something re-visited which most any player would be like okay that is cool. So I get the picture in the last episode that this was the last active threat regarding dragons. Not going to spoil anything for those who have not done this but the elements that have come together for the dragons have created and left things the way you have seen them different groups have forged bonds if you will where these said people will probably begin season five under the aspect of being with these said people under a backstory that will be the curtain for them forever or at least a long while. Then you have specific ones that to me seem like they are the bread crumbs to the continuation of the story. So a place we have not been that follows some pretty obvious bread crumbs would lead me to believe that we have some people who have been brought together with some vaguely related issues. Such as in the ending of season two we had that start of the end of the ascalonian ghosts that never panned out because of the more serious problems. With this rip in this new area it could have some effect that we do not understand yet or realize the potential for and maybe in relation to that problem since gwen and her story lead not so much to all charr but the blood legion who enslaved them at that point in time and you have her descendant Logan and Rytlok that are the closest story we have seen with the history of the two races and being how close they are they won't let history stand in the way of their progress. So people want to go where we have never been before they may get it if something per say where Gwen were to be able to travel outside of that area and come up with a way to lead the ascalonian ghost army to their true actual enemy which also still is a threat today to the other three legions to put the flame legion down for good. Also opens up the door for the Olmakhan to help the legions move toward a new direction under the teachings of Omla where it goes from a tribe to possibly a spiritual legion something the charr have never had. Which also makes me believe that its how ritualist will eventually be brought back if it ever does in the form of an elite spec. As I would put together that being the rangers in the game never have really had a place in large groups of players like wvw for instance and most specs that you play it like a ranger are often the most underused specs for example dragonhunter and renegade both having elements of rangers and elements of their own that never really are used because they do not fit the profile. So along with all of that plus rox being a ranger and among them now it seems to fit. So in the end I will laugh really hard if this is exactly what happens in season five and then an expansion or what not after its over leading us to cantha. You have to admit though that this angle would pretty much leave every story completed and brought to a close for new stories with the exception of the centaur and humans.

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