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  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭

    @XenoSpyro.1780 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:
    Don't buy amd.

    This is your brain on 2011. Don't do drugs, cubs.

    You're always gonna have issues with AMD with how low their market share is. Buying AMD CPU's/GPUs is a mistake if you're a gamer.

  • Lucentfir.7430Lucentfir.7430 Member ✭✭✭

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @XenoSpyro.1780 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:
    Don't buy amd.

    This is your brain on 2011. Don't do drugs, cubs.

    You're always gonna have issues with AMD with how low their market share is. Buying AMD CPU's/GPUs is a mistake if you're a gamer.

    With comments like this you can really tell how good Intel was at brainwashing people for their products. I have a all AMD system right now and i'm not having any issues at all in performance.

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 4, 2019

    @Lucentfir.7430 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @XenoSpyro.1780 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:
    Don't buy amd.

    This is your brain on 2011. Don't do drugs, cubs.

    You're always gonna have issues with AMD with how low their market share is. Buying AMD CPU's/GPUs is a mistake if you're a gamer.

    With comments like this you can really tell how good Intel was at brainwashing people for their products. I have a all AMD system right now and i'm not having any issues at all in performance.

    It's not about intel doing anything. It's threads like this one and talk about other gamers that can't play their favourite game because they bought AMD to save a few pennies. It's awesome that AMD exists because it keeps the greedy lazy bastards at intel honest but as things currently stand they aren't worth it for gamers since so many games just don't work well with AMD. That's without even mentioning their garbage GPUs.

  • Lucentfir.7430Lucentfir.7430 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 4, 2019

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Lucentfir.7430 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @XenoSpyro.1780 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:
    Don't buy amd.

    This is your brain on 2011. Don't do drugs, cubs.

    You're always gonna have issues with AMD with how low their market share is. Buying AMD CPU's/GPUs is a mistake if you're a gamer.

    With comments like this you can really tell how good Intel was at brainwashing people for their products. I have a all AMD system right now and i'm not having any issues at all in performance.

    It's not about intel doing anything. It's threads like this one and talk about other gamers that can't play their favourite game because they bought AMD to save a few pennies. It's awesome that AMD exists because it keeps the greedy lazy bastards at intel honest but as things currently stand they aren't worth it for gamers since so many games just don't work well with AMD. That's without even mentioning their garbage GPUs.

    With a response such as "Don't buy AMD." just feels like you're just repeating the same information that's stuck for the past 7 years, because even if AMD(current) is on par or the better modern choice these days, All that ever comes up in regards on the GW2 side is old regurgitated information. "Oh Gw2 is bad on AMD, intel is the best for Gw2." "You have low FPS because you're on AMD." "This game is single core focus so Intel is the better choice." it's funny to assume it isn't worth it for gamers (most gamers play more than one game) despite AMD's products being up on the top seller list. Outside the Gw2 pocket your post reeks of brand bias, or maybe you haven't been keeping up with the times?

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 4, 2019

    @Lucentfir.7430 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Lucentfir.7430 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @XenoSpyro.1780 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:
    Don't buy amd.

    This is your brain on 2011. Don't do drugs, cubs.

    You're always gonna have issues with AMD with how low their market share is. Buying AMD CPU's/GPUs is a mistake if you're a gamer.

    With comments like this you can really tell how good Intel was at brainwashing people for their products. I have a all AMD system right now and i'm not having any issues at all in performance.

    It's not about intel doing anything. It's threads like this one and talk about other gamers that can't play their favourite game because they bought AMD to save a few pennies. It's awesome that AMD exists because it keeps the greedy lazy bastards at intel honest but as things currently stand they aren't worth it for gamers since so many games just don't work well with AMD. That's without even mentioning their garbage GPUs.

    With a response such as "Don't buy AMD." just feels like you're just repeating the same information that's stuck for the past 7 years, because even if AMD(current) is on par or the better modern choice these days, All that ever comes up in regards on the GW2 side is old regurgitated information. "Oh Gw2 is bad on AMD, intel is the best for Gw2." "You have low FPS because you're on AMD." "This game is single core focus so Intel is the better choice." it's funny to assume it isn't worth it for gamers (most gamers play more than one game) despite AMD's products being up on the top seller list. Outside the Gw2 pocket your post reeks of brand bias, or maybe you haven't been keeping up with the times?

    Heres why AMD is useless for gamers:
    The vast majority of games use up to 4 cores max. For a workstation AMD eats Intel for breakfast but the large number of weaker threads in AMD products just doesn't help when your games use only 4 cores. Since single core performance on Intel beats AMD and since both of them have more than 4 cores intel is better for gamers. Since AMD has a much smaller market share most games tend to be optimised better for intel.
    On the GPU front nvidia is just c0ckslapping them since forever with superior hardware that doesnt heat loke a volcano and consume power at normal levels. Since AMD is an ant compared to nvidia most games are optimised better for better nvidia gpus.
    I understand it feels bad for you but thats just the reality of things.

  • Lucentfir.7430Lucentfir.7430 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 4, 2019

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Lucentfir.7430 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Lucentfir.7430 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @XenoSpyro.1780 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:
    Don't buy amd.

    This is your brain on 2011. Don't do drugs, cubs.

    You're always gonna have issues with AMD with how low their market share is. Buying AMD CPU's/GPUs is a mistake if you're a gamer.

    With comments like this you can really tell how good Intel was at brainwashing people for their products. I have a all AMD system right now and i'm not having any issues at all in performance.

    It's not about intel doing anything. It's threads like this one and talk about other gamers that can't play their favourite game because they bought AMD to save a few pennies. It's awesome that AMD exists because it keeps the greedy lazy bastards at intel honest but as things currently stand they aren't worth it for gamers since so many games just don't work well with AMD. That's without even mentioning their garbage GPUs.

    With a response such as "Don't buy AMD." just feels like you're just repeating the same information that's stuck for the past 7 years, because even if AMD(current) is on par or the better modern choice these days, All that ever comes up in regards on the GW2 side is old regurgitated information. "Oh Gw2 is bad on AMD, intel is the best for Gw2." "You have low FPS because you're on AMD." "This game is single core focus so Intel is the better choice." it's funny to assume it isn't worth it for gamers (most gamers play more than one game) despite AMD's products being up on the top seller list. Outside the Gw2 pocket your post reeks of brand bias, or maybe you haven't been keeping up with the times?

    Heres why AMD is useless for gamers:
    The vast majority of games use up to 4 cores max. For a workstation AMD eats Intel for breakfast but the large number of weaker threads in AMD products just doesn't help when your games use only 4 cores. Since single core performance on Intel beats AMD and since both of them have more than 4 cores intel is better for gamers. Since AMD has a much smaller market share most games tend to be optimised better for intel.
    On the GPU front nvidia is just c0ckslapping them since forever with superior hardware that doesnt heat loke a volcano and consume power at normal levels. Since AMD is an ant compared to nvidia most games are optimised better for better nvidia gpus.
    I understand it feels bad for you but thats just the reality of things.

    Your explanation isn't very convincing, looks like you're deep seeded with that mind set that intel is the only gamer option, taking away from your other statement "You're always going to have problems with AMD with how low their market share is" Don't know why you're bothering bringing up market share, You do know most of Intel's market share doesn't come from the desktop side, but rather the server and mobile market right? Lets not forget how most of intel's processors got downgraded by the vulnerability fix of zombie load. The only way i can see myself agreeing with your statement is if we're talking old FX series AMD. That processor series was a disaster, and yeah intel was 100% the better buy.

    GPU front Nvidia has the mindshare, regardless if AMD can release the better GPU and people will say Nvidia is still better. The only thing AMD has failed to compete with in the GPU space is the RTX 2080 ti. So unless you're only talking about the really high end in the domain of the RTX 2080 ti aka 1200 dollar range, yeah Nvidia owns that market. Heat and voltage, for people really concerned about that they tend to take the route to configure/undervolt their cards, from what i've seen, Mind showing me a source to back up your claim or where you got that idea where most games are optimized for NVidia GPUs? Considering AMD and Nvidia are the ones that release optimizations with their driver updates for games which are normally listed in the patch notes for those drivers?

    Funny thing is it doesn't feel bad, I've had a really great experience with a all AMD system when it comes to games. Your post comes off as regurgitated information to misguide from what might be the actual issues someone is having. Like reasons why people are having X issue is because of hardware brand and some off topic garbage like marketshare.

  • AMD has really come a long way since the FX series and now against the ryzen 3xxx series, intel is only better by a few fps, the gap is smaller than ever and the cpus trade blows.

    In 2017 I went from an i5 to a Ryzen 1700X and I couldn't be happier with the gains. The 4 cores on the i5 were great for gaming but not much else.

    Performance in GW2 didn't improve much but I'm able to multitask without affecting game performance.

    @Amaranthe.3578 Care to give some details what are these problems are? Can only speak for myself here and I haven't had any with any game.

  • Calistin.6210Calistin.6210 Member ✭✭
    edited August 5, 2019

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Lucentfir.7430 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @XenoSpyro.1780 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:
    Don't buy amd.

    This is your brain on 2011. Don't do drugs, cubs.

    You're always gonna have issues with AMD with how low their market share is. Buying AMD CPU's/GPUs is a mistake if you're a gamer.

    With comments like this you can really tell how good Intel was at brainwashing people for their products. I have a all AMD system right now and i'm not having any issues at all in performance.

    It's not about intel doing anything. It's threads like this one and talk about other gamers that can't play their favourite game because they bought AMD to save a few pennies. It's awesome that AMD exists because it keeps the greedy lazy bastards at intel honest but as things currently stand they aren't worth it for gamers since so many games just don't work well with AMD. That's without even mentioning their garbage GPUs.

    Sorry but this here is just too funny. AMD is not any worse at gaming than intel if you buy an equivalent product. In fact right now at mid or low tier AMD is way way better than intel.

    I am sorry to burst your bubble here but 4 cores "just for gaming" isn't going to cut it much longer..6 cores will fast replace the 4 cores even just for gaming especially if games start using 4 cores efficiently. The 2 extra cores will allow you to run all the other stuff that gamers usually have running along with the game clients etc etc be it streaming, recording gamepley, companion apps etc etc.

    It's a little asinine to say, "gamers that can't play their favourite game because they bought AMD" when they are running a 3600, 3700x or 3800x as these cpu's are really fine for gaming unless you're playing some backwards game like gw2 and even then I am sure a 3600 will play it just as well as the [email protected] that I am using right now to play gw2....

    I build my PC's and for any build that is 1500$ or less you would be pretty silly to go intel cpu to then have to skimp on the gpu....lolz

    I mean sure if you need more gaming performance than what a 3700x/3800x can give you then sure splurge out on that 9900k but if you get the 9900k you better be getting a rtx2080ti/super as well.

  • @Braile.3894 said:
    Hello, I switched today from my 3 year old intel core I7 6700k to a brand new AMD Ryzen 9 3900x.
    My problem is, performance dropped a lot.
    In other applications i got performance gains or atleast the performance wasn’t noticeable worse.

    Is there any workaround or is there a optimization patch planned?
    I tried to assign the cores separately to gw2 but that didn’t help.

    Is it a fresh installation of Windows? Check your power settings to make sure it is on 'balanced' and not 'power saving' mode. Choose slider to 'best performance'.

  • Braile.3894Braile.3894 Member ✭✭

    @The Quad.8625 said:

    @Braile.3894 said:
    Hello, I switched today from my 3 year old intel core I7 6700k to a brand new AMD Ryzen 9 3900x.
    My problem is, performance dropped a lot.
    In other applications i got performance gains or atleast the performance wasn’t noticeable worse.

    Is there any workaround or is there a optimization patch planned?
    I tried to assign the cores separately to gw2 but that didn’t help.

    Is it a fresh installation of Windows? Check your power settings to make sure it is on 'balanced' and not 'power saving' mode. Choose slider to 'best performance'.

    Yes ofc, as I stated every other game got performance gains.
    Iam using the dx12 patch atm and the game runs like a modern game now 🙃

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