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What are the new busted builds?

Sampson.2403Sampson.2403 Member ✭✭✭
edited July 18, 2019 in PVP

I like to play the OP busted stuff. Played condi / one shot mirage when they were OP. Was playing Rev these last couple of seasons but this recent patch screwed that up.

So, tell me, what is the new cancer? I hope its not the CI mirage build because I've never liked the tankier, node camping stuff. I like being a predator, preferably with ports.

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  • play Trap DH its pretty bursty and people dont see it enough to learn how deal with it hahaha, check out some of my vids you'll see what i mean, Tryfox95 is my youtube channel.

  • Zephoid.4263Zephoid.4263 Member ✭✭✭

    I had a FA weaver yesterday doing 20k bursts in <1s on my 1300T firebrand. (lightning strike, plasma beam, arcane blast). Of course, its FA weaver and has almost no sustain, but the new buffs seem to have been rather significant.

    Rampage is still silly and magebane tether didn't get touched.

    DD is quite a pain with the new traps. Seal Area+ Vault is rather annoying.

  • @sinsrock.1702 said:
    play Trap DH its pretty bursty and people dont see it enough to learn how deal with it hahaha, check out some of my vids you'll see what i mean, Tryfox95 is my youtube channel.

    It's a nice little bit of nostalgia to see DH trappers back in PvP. It's still quite a lazy build and a piece of cake to take them apart if you know what to look for, but it's a fine way to drop people that aren't paying attention.

  • @Aaron Forestman.4758 said:

    @sinsrock.1702 said:
    play Trap DH its pretty bursty and people dont see it enough to learn how deal with it hahaha, check out some of my vids you'll see what i mean, Tryfox95 is my youtube channel.

    It's a nice little bit of nostalgia to see DH trappers back in PvP. It's still quite a lazy build and a piece of cake to take them apart if you know what to look for, but it's a fine way to drop people that aren't paying attention.

    Yea good thing there arent really any great players outside of plat 2-p3 and legy ranking right xD it was easier to climb with trap DH then it was Rev last season honestly, i run Trap runes to make the TS hit Hard af and completely unpredictable haha easily one of my fav classes EVEN if i want to play dead eye with the new tele preparation that allows you to even tele back onto things that are a no tele zone lol

  • Sounds like you like bursty rotating classes.

    Fresh Air Sceptre Weaver is most likely your best bet

  • otto.5684otto.5684 Member ✭✭✭✭

    As far as I have seen, Weaver is slightly better and scrapper is worse. Everything else is the same.

    Trap DH? You do know there were not changes to traps damage or application, right? And please do not tell me you have issues with DH running zeal and/or radiance. These can be killed by anything looking in their general direction.

  • Ryan.9387Ryan.9387 Member ✭✭✭

    Give it a week or two to settle down.

    Best guess though:
    Mirage
    Holo
    Deadeye
    Weaver

    Other specs will still be useful but these will stand out I think.

  • witcher.3197witcher.3197 Member ✭✭✭✭

    New builds? In GW2? LUL

  • F/A Weaver's always been a bit broken given the right hands but it's even more broken if you go water/air/weaver.

  • Falan.1839Falan.1839 Member ✭✭✭

    Same ones like before, just without Soulbeast and Rev a bit normalised. Mirage, Spellbreaker, Holo, FB/Scourge are all still good.

    Falásya / Caissech

    "When you say it's gonna happen "now"
    When exactly do you mean?
    See I've already waited too long
    And all my hope is gone"
    The Smiths about Balance and PvP changes

  • Vieux P.1238Vieux P.1238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ryan.9387 said:
    Give it a week or two to settle down.

    Best guess though:
    Mirage
    Holo
    Deadeye
    Weaver

    Other specs will still be useful but these will stand out I think.

    why is mesmer on top of your list? ah yeah..Bias...

    Winter Nerf is coming!

  • Ryan.9387Ryan.9387 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vieux P.1238 said:

    @Ryan.9387 said:
    Give it a week or two to settle down.

    Best guess though:
    Mirage
    Holo
    Deadeye
    Weaver

    Other specs will still be useful but these will stand out I think.

    why is mesmer on top of your list? ah yeah..Bias...

    ???

    The list is in no particular order...

    I multiclass and have no main. I have nothing to lose if a spec gets nerfed because I'll bandwagon onto whatever is strongest.

    This season on various alts:
    Mirage - p3 na
    Holo - p3 na | p3 eu
    Weaver - p2 na (few games though, super boring spec to play)
    Deadeye - haven't played yet, but intend to

    I honestly believe all of these builds are busted, and I will abuse them in ranked until they're nerfed. Also common to all is that they remained untouched despite being top tier pre patch.

  • Exedore.6320Exedore.6320 Member ✭✭✭

    I ran into a thief build which one-shot me. 18k backstab and change. If it doesn't get the kill, it's pretty squishy.

  • Sampson.2403Sampson.2403 Member ✭✭✭

    Can someone post or link the dps FA weaver build? Is the one on metabattle accurate?

  • bbop.9706bbop.9706 Member ✭✭✭

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    Can someone post or link the dps FA weaver build? Is the one on metabattle accurate?

    Arcane 321 Water 231 Weaver 332
    Divinity or Leadership Rune - Mender Amulet
    Sigil of Energy + Courage

    You are welcome =)

  • ZeroTheCat.2684ZeroTheCat.2684 Member ✭✭✭

    @bbop.9706 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    Can someone post or link the dps FA weaver build? Is the one on metabattle accurate?

    Arcane 321 Water 231 Weaver 332
    Divinity or Leadership Rune - Mender Amulet
    Sigil of Energy + Courage

    You are welcome =)

    This bs needs to be toned down

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    What's this? Oh no.... ele poses a threat now? Erase...... ERASE lol

  • Traveller.7496Traveller.7496 Member ✭✭✭

    @sinsrock.1702 said:
    play Trap DH its pretty bursty and people dont see it enough to learn how deal with it hahaha, check out some of my vids you'll see what i mean, Tryfox95 is my youtube channel.

    What kind of build you use for trap DH? I used to ran that ages ago in WvW, but the lack of mobility always killed it for me. Would probably work better for PvP.

  • @Traveller.7496 said:

    @sinsrock.1702 said:
    play Trap DH its pretty bursty and people dont see it enough to learn how deal with it hahaha, check out some of my vids you'll see what i mean, Tryfox95 is my youtube channel.

    What kind of build you use for trap DH? I used to ran that ages ago in WvW, but the lack of mobility always killed it for me. Would probably work better for PvP.

    im currently running valk amulet and Trapper runes, before you sneeze at trapper runes understand my reasoning, it enables you to re position very easily which is something DH lacks as a class as well as set up perpetration when using trueshot or spear of justice

    as far as traits im using
    Radiance - 3,3,3
    Virtues - 1,2,3
    DH -112

    someone in the above comments did mention that DH is not the greatest and people that know how to counter it is very true but i will say ive beaten even some of the best players i know in duels etc because they really arnt expecting trapper runes, for my skills i use
    Longbow
    S/Sh
    Purification , Test of faith , Fragments of Faith , "Save yourself" and last renewed focus,

    i played a game last night where i took every medal you can get in ranked even healing, so the build CAN do work if the person knows how to engage, disengage and rotate correctly, you WILL not win every fight so just know when to use a trap and stealth off :) super useful for disengage :) hope this helps >

    @otto.5684 said:

    As far as I have seen, Weaver is slightly better and scrapper is worse. Everything else is the same.

    Trap DH? You do know there were not changes to traps damage or application, right? And please do not tell me you have issues with DH running zeal and/or radiance. These can be killed by anything looking in their general direction.

    Yes im aware the traps had no changes but the buff to longbow is what i was referring to :) i am not running zeal i considered it but yea your right WAY to squishy haha but trap runes offset that a little because stealth is easily one of the best defenses in game

    Hope this helps some people if they want to give it a try also feel free to add me in game id love to help more out i think DH can get kinda slept on sometimes and its more of a traditional hunter in my eyes ! :)

  • Sampson.2403Sampson.2403 Member ✭✭✭

    @bbop.9706 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    Can someone post or link the dps FA weaver build? Is the one on metabattle accurate?

    Arcane 321 Water 231 Weaver 332
    Divinity or Leadership Rune - Mender Amulet
    Sigil of Energy + Courage

    You are welcome =)

    Thanks, i will try this out.

    Which utilities to use?

    Mind explaining the dps rotations? Or can i just read the general approach off of a metabattle build?

  • @Sampson.2403 said:

    @bbop.9706 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    Can someone post or link the dps FA weaver build? Is the one on metabattle accurate?

    Arcane 321 Water 231 Weaver 332
    Divinity or Leadership Rune - Mender Amulet
    Sigil of Energy + Courage

    You are welcome =)

    Thanks, i will try this out.

    Which utilities to use?

    Mind explaining the dps rotations? Or can i just read the general approach off of a metabattle build?

    This isnt a FA build. FA is in the air traitline

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    condi chrono
    burn fb with zeal and spirit sword can maintain 19 stacks of burn on golem, no idea how this would play out in a real world scenario
    condi weaver seems strong when stance stab gets fixed but its kinda slow
    scrapper with demo or mara is busted in team fights but cant really hold a node 1v1
    seen some condi teefs stacking some insane poisons but idk much about teef
    mirage got buffed lol, a lot better now vs condis

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • otto.5684otto.5684 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    condi chrono
    burn fb with zeal and spirit sword can maintain 19 stacks of burn on golem, no idea how this would play out in a real world scenario
    condi weaver seems strong when stance stab gets fixed but its kinda slow
    scrapper with demo or mara is busted in team fights but cant really hold a node 1v1
    seen some condi teefs stacking some insane poisons but idk much about teef
    mirage got buffed lol, a lot better now vs condis

    FB dps PvE meta build shifted from using virtues to zeal, and gained like 2-4K damage. PvP wise, contrary to the believe, changes to zeal are a bit negative. Higher damage potential, but loss in consistency and loss in sustain. Biggest guardian PvP build winner this patch is surely DH. The change to LB 3 is much bigger benefit that I though it would be. It still does not make DH competitive, but I think in the right hands it could be taken to P3.

    Scrapper vanished from sPvP. I have only seen 1 in almost 10 games since the patch. I used to see 1 at least every 2 games.

    I have only seen 1 condi chrono, played by a mesmer player that I recognize (someone skilled with the class). Did not do well.

    I have seen some really weird thief stuff this patch. None of it works. It is just weird. I keep hearing about condi thief builds dishing some insane damage. They do not seem any different than before. It is more of some condi DD thief going to side node and trolling a clueless player or two.

    Guardian is still the class I see the most in sPvP. Though, very rarely I see anyone play it well.

  • bbop.9706bbop.9706 Member ✭✭✭

    @Sampson.2403 said:

    @bbop.9706 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    Can someone post or link the dps FA weaver build? Is the one on metabattle accurate?

    Arcane 321 Water 231 Weaver 332
    Divinity or Leadership Rune - Mender Amulet
    Sigil of Energy + Courage

    You are welcome =)

    Thanks, i will try this out.

    Which utilities to use?

    Mind explaining the dps rotations? Or can i just read the general approach off of a metabattle build?

    Cello can demonstrate better than i ever could :+1:

  • @bbop.9706 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:

    @bbop.9706 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    Can someone post or link the dps FA weaver build? Is the one on metabattle accurate?

    Arcane 321 Water 231 Weaver 332
    Divinity or Leadership Rune - Mender Amulet
    Sigil of Energy + Courage

    You are welcome =)

    Thanks, i will try this out.

    Which utilities to use?

    Mind explaining the dps rotations? Or can i just read the general approach off of a metabattle build?

    Cello can demonstrate better than i ever could :+1:

    Bewarned Bolstered Elementals is bugged. Stances will not give you stab for 70s if you drop below 50% health and you have 2 stun breaks on a 50s/100s cooldown.

    Its an older build that has been good for a while but outclassed by other specs. The metabattle wiki has good information on how to play it. I don't think it will fit your play style because you stated the following in your OP.

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    because I've never liked the tankier, node camping stuff.

  • @Aaron Forestman.4758 said:

    @sinsrock.1702 said:
    play Trap DH its pretty bursty and people dont see it enough to learn how deal with it hahaha, check out some of my vids you'll see what i mean, Tryfox95 is my youtube channel.

    It's a nice little bit of nostalgia to see DH trappers back in PvP. It's still quite a lazy build and a piece of cake to take them apart if you know what to look for, but it's a fine way to drop people that aren't paying attention.

    Even without the traps, DH's always been a "noob stomper" specialization (kinda like Deadeye was/is). Even the non-trap centered builds. DH itself is a very skill-scaling class, which I immensely enjoy myself. It's good to see them somewhat viable again.

  • Dirame.8521Dirame.8521 Member ✭✭
    edited July 19, 2019

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    I like to play the OP busted stuff. Played condi / one shot mirage when they were OP. Was playing Rev these last couple of seasons but this recent patch screwed that up.

    So, tell me, what is the new cancer? I hope its not the CI mirage build because I've never liked the tankier, node camping stuff. I like being a predator, preferably with ports.

    Psst!!! Step into this dark alley..... I've got just what you need....

  • bbop.9706bbop.9706 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dirame.8521 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    I like to play the OP busted stuff. Played condi / one shot mirage when they were OP. Was playing Rev these last couple of seasons but this recent patch screwed that up.

    So, tell me, what is the new cancer? I hope its not the CI mirage build because I've never liked the tankier, node camping stuff. I like being a predator, preferably with ports.

    Psst!!! Step into this dark alley..... I've got just what you need....

    🤣👍 It's a troll build tho, but it works... Also the guys had help in that clip... the burst was not entirely his own so a bit misleading.

  • Vague Memory.2817Vague Memory.2817 Member ✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    condi chrono
    burn fb with zeal and spirit sword can maintain 19 stacks of burn on golem, no idea how this would play out in a real world scenario
    condi weaver seems strong when stance stab gets fixed but its kinda slow
    scrapper with demo or mara is busted in team fights but cant really hold a node 1v1
    seen some condi teefs stacking some insane poisons but idk much about teef
    mirage got buffed lol, a lot better now vs condis

    Lol, condi Chrono, what are you smoking? Chrono is dead in sPVP dude.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 20, 2019

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • Vague Memory.2817Vague Memory.2817 Member ✭✭✭

    I'd rather just go on facts. Very very few Chrono in sPvP before the patch and I've only seen two after it, and they both got destroyed. I doubt a one trick pony build is going to change that, and if it did, expect it to get nerfed since they really don't like Chrono for some reason.

  • Dirame.8521Dirame.8521 Member ✭✭
    edited July 20, 2019

    @bbop.9706 said:

    @Dirame.8521 said:

    @Sampson.2403 said:
    I like to play the OP busted stuff. Played condi / one shot mirage when they were OP. Was playing Rev these last couple of seasons but this recent patch screwed that up.

    So, tell me, what is the new cancer? I hope its not the CI mirage build because I've never liked the tankier, node camping stuff. I like being a predator, preferably with ports.

    Psst!!! Step into this dark alley..... I've got just what you need....

    🤣👍 It's a troll build tho, but it works... Also the guys had help in that clip... the burst was not entirely his own so a bit misleading.

    Funny enough, I didn't notice that until I watched it again after I posted it, but the build can do that same thing on its own. I'll show a different one (or 3) where it was just me.

  • Dirame.8521Dirame.8521 Member ✭✭

    @bbop.9706
    here you go

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