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Kittymarks Returns (...again)

LadyKitty.6120LadyKitty.6120 Member ✭✭✭
edited September 6, 2019 in Fractals, Dungeons, and Raids

If you're interested in optimal META rotations and numbers, go to Snowcrows.com or https://lucky-noobs.com/dps-tabelle/ .

Since the balance patch cadence has become longer again, Kitty finally has time to do some dps testing (though like everyone knows, she's not exactly a top-tier dps as she's actually a support main). Though Kitty has improved quite a bit and she's now using a gaming mouse instead of oldschool skill clicking.
Since doing it in a website form is pricy and slow, Kitty's this time using a google docs spreadsheet ('cause excels are nice) as it'll also allow doing some Top-listing and stuff (once Kitty figures how to fetch some cells). And the spreadsheet ofc includes link to each test's video and Kitty's included the traits, skills and gears at the end of each video.
Kitty will fill it as she gets the testing done and at the time of posting this original post, there's 62 builds tested this far.

Long url to spreadsheet (gotta copy-pasta to address bar since forums are broken atm): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZTdQqAYMN_IBnEwuYgQlHnNTxvLLlhzCMhNUOqiQra0/
Short url to spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/Kittymarks
Builds tested this far: 364 (updated 6th September)

Like usual, Kitty's testing pretty much all weapons and popular runes and spec/trait variations as well as some tank variations, boonbot variations and stuff (and most of all, MEMES).

And since there's lots of people who don't approve of what Kitty's doing...
Disclaimer: Kitty's not a top-tier DPSer and thus her test results don't represent what kind of dps top-tier dpsers should be doing, just what some decent dpser does. If you can outperform Kitty, you're better than her at the build, yush. These test results are just intended to give some clue about what various variables(weapons, traits, runes) to the builds do to dps and to help people estimate what their preferred weapons might do dps-wise in case someone doesn't find the metabuilds best suited for their playstyle (or just don't have the optimal weapons yet). And obviously lower number means you need to play it better relatively to reach the same dps and builds with lower numbers shouldn't be used for speedrunning or with very skilled squads as they likely won't like them.

It's Kitty. The young lady who streams and records videos playing various (non-)metabuilds. Raid/fractal videos at youtube.com/LadyKitty, Kittymarks test results at youtube.com/Kittymarks and tinyurl.com/Kittymarks and streams at twitch.tv/ladykittygw2 .

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  • Illconceived Was Na.9781Illconceived Was Na.9781 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 23, 2019

    she's now using a gaming mouse instead of oldschool skill clicking

    Finally :)

    How do you like it?

    PS always interesting to see what folks come up with for "good|great" builds that are fine for non-speedclearing groups. Thanks for posting.

    PPS if you put an accent grave around text (keyboard shortcut: ctrl-o), the links are easier to copy (because you can double-click them to select)
    e.g.
    https://tinyurl.com/Kittymarks
    vs
    https://tinyurl.com/Kittymarks

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  • she's now using a gaming mouse instead of oldschool skill clicking.

    One of the best things someone can do. I bought a gaming mouse some years back and having buttons on that to use rather than doing a pretzel with my fingers or clicking makes a big difference.

    62 builds tested this far.

    Thanks for taking to time to get information like this for others like me to use.

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  • zombyturtle.5980zombyturtle.5980 Member ✭✭✭

    Look, Ill always appreciate people trying to help newer players and trying simple-to-play off meta builds. However if you want to make build guides, PLEASE stop talking in the 3rd person. Guides should be clear and easy to read and the way you speak is just not appropriate for teaching people. It can be confusing in large posts and to me and some others is just unpleasant to read in smaller ones. The word 'yush' too...

    I do think there is some value in testing these builds, even if most are unsuable, you might find a few that are ok but if you insist on this 3rd person stuff, keep it out of guides.

  • Henry.5713Henry.5713 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2019

    Personally, I'd be more interested in the output of META-builds when played by players of various skill levels vs. them playing various non-META builds to see which might be most optimal depending on the person in question. Testing such a thing would be a pain and probably require multiple players to get involved in the process.
    Running some of these builds at your already own decent level where you might be better off going with something more optimal seems to be nothing more than "doing something noone else does so you can be special" to me. But then that is just my personal opinion. You are free to do whatever you like.

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  • phokus.8934phokus.8934 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The annoying third person talking aside, this is pretty useless.

    Stick with meta builds; they’re meta for a reason.

  • Digit.1823Digit.1823 Member ✭✭✭

    This topic will basically go the same way as the thread we had last time, this is the thread she posted a while ago:

    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/11645/kittymarks-the-kitten-girls-comprehensive-benchmark/

    TL;DR Summary: She posted a ton of really bad builds with blatantly wrong rotations, people talked about it. White knights defended, sane people pointed at flaws and tried to discuss, Kitty basically only ever responded with "But if i don't test this, then who will?!" and in the end the thread faded into obscurity. As it should have, and as this one will also do. Everything you ever need to know how this will end up can be found in the old thread.

    But that's just my opinion.

  • Since most of the people that read these posts in Gw2's forum won't ever post here in their entire lives... I'm pretty sure it will be usefull for at least some players passing by.
    You guys are caring too much about who this person is, and why this person is talking that way, have you ever seen players taking roleplaying TOO, seriously ? I've seen far, far worse, it's even a joke compared to some crazy roleplayers we got back in the days in Divinity Reach...

    Don't fall for the hate & salt game, this person isn't insulting or harming anyone, it's surprising how bad one can be triggered by the 3rd person thingie, in the worst case it makes me laugh, that's all...
    We can try to act as a community sometimes, won't hurt anyone, I don't see anything wrong behaviour wise in Op's post, yet.

  • phokus.8934phokus.8934 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Only Even.6193 said:
    Since most of the people that read these posts in Gw2's forum won't ever post here in their entire lives... I'm pretty sure it will be usefull for at least some players passing by.
    You guys are caring too much about who this person is, and why this person is talking that way, have you ever seen players taking roleplaying TOO, seriously ? I've seen far, far worse, it's even a joke compared to some crazy roleplayers we got back in the days in Divinity Reach...

    Don't fall for the hate & salt game, this person isn't insulting or harming anyone, it's surprising how bad one can be triggered by the 3rd person thingie, in the worst case it makes me laugh, that's all...
    We can try to act as a community sometimes, won't hurt anyone, I don't see anything wrong behaviour wise in Op's post, yet.

    See below

    @Digit.1823 said:
    This topic will basically go the same way as the thread we had last time, this is the thread she posted a while ago:

    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/11645/kittymarks-the-kitten-girls-comprehensive-benchmark/

    TL;DR Summary: She posted a ton of really bad builds with blatantly wrong rotations, people talked about it. White knights defended, sane people pointed at flaws and tried to discuss, Kitty basically only ever responded with "But if i don't test this, then who will?!" and in the end the thread faded into obscurity. As it should have, and as this one will also do. Everything you ever need to know how this will end up can be found in the old thread.

    But that's just my opinion.

  • thrag.9740thrag.9740 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 26, 2019

    You put so much work into this game kitty. Hopefully your disclaimer about meta builds being available at sc will cut out some of the hate you receive. It makes me sad to see the negative responses you get. I understand the builds you post aren't meta and hence constructive criticism is to be expected, but your also one of the few people who post on these forums with created content. I just wish some people were nicer to you. I hope your having fun.

    Anyways, your comment about the lingering light trait on druid in the boon thief thread was legitimately helpful, I had honestly forgotten that trait existed, and it helped make my static's run this week a little smoother.

  • Phew. Kitty's soon done with her first round of testing. The results this far have been quite interesting. Apparently even condi weeber builds without conjures do a good amount of dps and many builds have alternative weapon options within 1-2k from best. And ofc Kitty's ofc discovered some powerful memes like condi Pistol+Empty deadeye and power lb/axe+axe soulbeast (which somehow is Kitty's best power soulbeast build atm). 2nd round will be more about supports and renegade-rune versions of condi builds and maybe some grieving stuff!
    And at least Kitty now has some time to test. Stay tuned!

    It's Kitty. The young lady who streams and records videos playing various (non-)metabuilds. Raid/fractal videos at youtube.com/LadyKitty, Kittymarks test results at youtube.com/Kittymarks and tinyurl.com/Kittymarks and streams at twitch.tv/ladykittygw2 .

  • Very interesting stuff here. I love that you test off-meta builds.

    I'll second someone else's comment above and say that if you focused purely on finding the "easiest" builds possible, that would have even more value than what you're already doing. Maybe you can make a "best of the easiest" list/ranking within your guide? (I'm thinking builds without weapon swapping, with a lot of insta-casts or signets so you don't have to worry about interrupting autoattacks).

    Anyway, just my thoughts. Thanks for doing this!

  • I cant even take your posts seriously due to the constant talking in third person. it's probably the most cringeworthy thing.

  • I for one like the personality in all your posts, keep it up Kitty!

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2019

    If people want to extend their RP onto the forums too when they post then they’re free to do so. If their posts bother you that much then just skip over them when you see their name.

  • Engal.6359Engal.6359 Member ✭✭✭

    @phokus.8934 said:
    The annoying third person talking aside, this is pretty useless.

    Stick with meta builds; they’re meta for a reason.

    Lol not everyone plays tryhard builds all the time. Some people care more about having fun than getting the best dps. As long as you still do fine who cares if you play core ele or some other meme build? It's more interesting than playing the exactly optimal meta for months/years with almost no changes.

    Third person thing is kinda weird, but who really cares that much?

  • Talindra.4958Talindra.4958 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 6, 2019

    The tittle.. roll drums.. deng deng deng....i like kitty's positive energy.. keep up the good work..
    😁 🐈🐈🐱🐅🐅

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